CTD at main menu

[Eyra_Yukina]

So the game worked fine yesturday and everything was great, without any changes it suddenly CTD on startup every time and I cant figure it out.

 

heres my mods in loading priority, not sure whats causing the CTD on startup but it worked like this yesturday but not today.

 

Spoiler

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name
"0000","+","DLC: HearthFires"
"0001","+","DLC: Dragonborn"
"0002","+","DLC: Dawnguard"
"0003","+","Achievements Mods Enabler"
"0004","+","ApachiiSkyHair SSE"
"0005","+","Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE"
"0006","+","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch"
"0007","+","Schlongs of Skyrim SE"
"0008","+","Wet and Cold SE"
"0009","+","UNP Female Body Renewal"
"0010","+","Baka Haeun UNP"
"0011","+","Leyenda Skin"
"0012","+","Unleveled Items"
"0013","+","The Ordinary Women SSE"
"0014","+","SkyUI"
"0015","+","Simple Female Running Animation SE"
"0016","+","RS Children Overhaul"
"0017","+","Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO SE"
"0018","+","RaceMenu"
"0019","+","Jarls Re-Imagined SE"
"0020","+","Improved Eyes Skyrim"
"0021","+","Immersive Patrols SE"
"0022","+","Immersive HUD - iHUD Special Edition"
"0023","+","Illuminated Atronachs -- Atronachs lumineux"
"0024","+","HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)"
"0025","+","Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice"
"0026","+","Forever Corpse"
"0027","+","FNIS PCEA2 - Player Exclusive Animations (dynamic) SE"
"0028","+","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE"
"0029","+","Flower Girls SE and VR"
"0030","+","FleshFX"
"0031","+","DX Druid Armor - UNP"
"0032","+","DX Druid Armor SSE BHUNP Bodyslide"
"0033","+","Climates Of Tamriel-SE"
"0034","+","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions"
"0035","+","BodySlide and Outfit Studio"
"0036","+","High Poly Vanilla Armor and Clothes for Bathsheba Body"
"0037","+","TMB Vanilla Armors and Clothes SSE"
"0038","+","UNP Vanilla Outfits SE"
"0039","+","MiniDresses Collection for BHUNP Bodyslide Vanilla Outfit Replacer"
"0040","+","Topless Forsworn No Pantsu CBPUNP"
"0041","+","Better MessageBox Controls"
"0042","+","Better Khajiit female body Texture for UNP and CBBE body"
"0043","+","Better Khajiit male Texture for SOS body"
"0044","+","Better Female Khajiit Pain Sounds"
"0045","+","Better Dialogue Controls"
"0046","+","BeeingFemale SE"
"0048","+","A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget"
"0049","+","MagickaPlus"
"0050","+","Casting Regeneration"
"0051","+","No Cost For Utility Spells"
"0052","+","Necromancy Spell Changes"
"0054","+","USSEP Necromage fix"
"0055","+","Mfg Fix"
"0056","+","Display Enemy Level"
"0057","+","Individual Shout Cooldown Remake"
"0058","+","Flying Mod Beta by porroone and Flying Mod Overhaul by Indefiance (Converted for SSE)"
"0059","+","Animated Wings Ultimate"
"0060","+","Campfire 1.12.1SEVR"
"0061","+","Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival"
"0062","+","Campfire and Frostfall - Unofficial SSE Update"
"0063","+","Campfire Backpack HD"
"0064","+","powerofthree's Papyrus Extender for SSE"
"0065","+","Fresh Women"
"0066","+","Flower Girls NPC Overhaul (with optional Hair Physics)"
"0067","+","SSE Wolves Replacer"
"0068","+","The Revamped Quiver"
"0069","+","Deadly Spell Impacts"
"0070","+","Arctic - Frost Effects Redux"
"0071","+","Barbarian Bodypaints - Racemenu Body and Head Overlays for UUNP CBBE and Males"
"0072","+","Fluffy Snow"
"0073","+","Footprints"
"0074","+","Enhanced Blood Textures"
"0075","+","Yyvengar Bodypaint - Designs of the Lupine - RaceMenu Overlays"
"0076","+","ZMDs Feet and Nail Overlays Lite for RaceMenu UNP SE"
"0077","+","Meridia's Luxon Beacon Replacer"
"0078","+","UNP Minidresses Collection"
"0079","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended"
"0080","+","JContainers64"
"0081","+","SexLabFrameworkSE_v163_BETA8"
"0082","+","Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2A-SE"
"0083","+","PapyrusUtil SE 3.9"
"0084","+","SexLabArousedSSELoose"
"0085","+","FurnitureMarkerSex"
"0086","+","SLAL_SE"
"0087","+","MoreNastyCritters_v12_06A"
"0088","+","HornyCreaturesofSkyrim_V1_14"
"0089","+","HentaiCreatures_MNCv12SE2"
"0090","+","SexLab More Creatures SE v1.02 - Non-Essential Respawning"
"0091","+","iLuvLoading SSE"
"0092","+","Sexlab LightMeUp"
"0093","+","SLAL"
"0094","+","SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6"
"0095","+","SLAL NibblesAnims"
"0096","+","SL Defeat SSE"
"0097","+","Billyy's SLAL Animations 2.9"
"0098","+","Konosuba Main Menu Replacer"
"0099","+","More Nasty Critters Always Erect"
"0100","+","SexLab Aroused Creatures SE v04.01"
"0101","+","BetterCaninePenis"
"0102","+","Arousal Based MatchMaker"
"0103","+","Wilding"
"0104","+","PSQ_SSE_1"
"0105","+","SexLabs Beastess"
"0106","+","Bodyslide"
"0107","+","FNIS Behavior"
"0108","+","SKSE Stuff"
 

 

Any advice would be appreciated, tried asking on nexus and they ignored me completely x.x

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, yuuks said:

So the game worked fine yesturday and everything was great, without any changes it suddenly CTD on startup every time and I cant figure it out.

 

heres my mods in loading priority, not sure whats causing the CTD on startup but it worked like this yesturday but not today.

 

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#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name
"0000","+","DLC: HearthFires"
"0001","+","DLC: Dragonborn"
"0002","+","DLC: Dawnguard"
"0003","+","Achievements Mods Enabler"
"0004","+","ApachiiSkyHair SSE"
"0005","+","Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE"
"0006","+","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch"
"0007","+","Schlongs of Skyrim SE"
"0008","+","Wet and Cold SE"
"0009","+","UNP Female Body Renewal"
"0010","+","Baka Haeun UNP"
"0011","+","Leyenda Skin"
"0012","+","Unleveled Items"
"0013","+","The Ordinary Women SSE"
"0014","+","SkyUI"
"0015","+","Simple Female Running Animation SE"
"0016","+","RS Children Overhaul"
"0017","+","Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO SE"
"0018","+","RaceMenu"
"0019","+","Jarls Re-Imagined SE"
"0020","+","Improved Eyes Skyrim"
"0021","+","Immersive Patrols SE"
"0022","+","Immersive HUD - iHUD Special Edition"
"0023","+","Illuminated Atronachs -- Atronachs lumineux"
"0024","+","HDT-SMP (Skinned Mesh Physics)"
"0025","+","Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice"
"0026","+","Forever Corpse"
"0027","+","FNIS PCEA2 - Player Exclusive Animations (dynamic) SE"
"0028","+","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE"
"0029","+","Flower Girls SE and VR"
"0030","+","FleshFX"
"0031","+","DX Druid Armor - UNP"
"0032","+","DX Druid Armor SSE BHUNP Bodyslide"
"0033","+","Climates Of Tamriel-SE"
"0034","+","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions"
"0035","+","BodySlide and Outfit Studio"
"0036","+","High Poly Vanilla Armor and Clothes for Bathsheba Body"
"0037","+","TMB Vanilla Armors and Clothes SSE"
"0038","+","UNP Vanilla Outfits SE"
"0039","+","MiniDresses Collection for BHUNP Bodyslide Vanilla Outfit Replacer"
"0040","+","Topless Forsworn No Pantsu CBPUNP"
"0041","+","Better MessageBox Controls"
"0042","+","Better Khajiit female body Texture for UNP and CBBE body"
"0043","+","Better Khajiit male Texture for SOS body"
"0044","+","Better Female Khajiit Pain Sounds"
"0045","+","Better Dialogue Controls"
"0046","+","BeeingFemale SE"
"0048","+","A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget"
"0049","+","MagickaPlus"
"0050","+","Casting Regeneration"
"0051","+","No Cost For Utility Spells"
"0052","+","Necromancy Spell Changes"
"0054","+","USSEP Necromage fix"
"0055","+","Mfg Fix"
"0056","+","Display Enemy Level"
"0057","+","Individual Shout Cooldown Remake"
"0058","+","Flying Mod Beta by porroone and Flying Mod Overhaul by Indefiance (Converted for SSE)"
"0059","+","Animated Wings Ultimate"
"0060","+","Campfire 1.12.1SEVR"
"0061","+","Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival"
"0062","+","Campfire and Frostfall - Unofficial SSE Update"
"0063","+","Campfire Backpack HD"
"0064","+","powerofthree's Papyrus Extender for SSE"
"0065","+","Fresh Women"
"0066","+","Flower Girls NPC Overhaul (with optional Hair Physics)"
"0067","+","SSE Wolves Replacer"
"0068","+","The Revamped Quiver"
"0069","+","Deadly Spell Impacts"
"0070","+","Arctic - Frost Effects Redux"
"0071","+","Barbarian Bodypaints - Racemenu Body and Head Overlays for UUNP CBBE and Males"
"0072","+","Fluffy Snow"
"0073","+","Footprints"
"0074","+","Enhanced Blood Textures"
"0075","+","Yyvengar Bodypaint - Designs of the Lupine - RaceMenu Overlays"
"0076","+","ZMDs Feet and Nail Overlays Lite for RaceMenu UNP SE"
"0077","+","Meridia's Luxon Beacon Replacer"
"0078","+","UNP Minidresses Collection"
"0079","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended"
"0080","+","JContainers64"
"0081","+","SexLabFrameworkSE_v163_BETA8"
"0082","+","Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2A-SE"
"0083","+","PapyrusUtil SE 3.9"
"0084","+","SexLabArousedSSELoose"
"0085","+","FurnitureMarkerSex"
"0086","+","SLAL_SE"
"0087","+","MoreNastyCritters_v12_06A"
"0088","+","HornyCreaturesofSkyrim_V1_14"
"0089","+","HentaiCreatures_MNCv12SE2"
"0090","+","SexLab More Creatures SE v1.02 - Non-Essential Respawning"
"0091","+","iLuvLoading SSE"
"0092","+","Sexlab LightMeUp"
"0093","+","SLAL"
"0094","+","SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6"
"0095","+","SLAL NibblesAnims"
"0096","+","SL Defeat SSE"
"0097","+","Billyy's SLAL Animations 2.9"
"0098","+","Konosuba Main Menu Replacer"
"0099","+","More Nasty Critters Always Erect"
"0100","+","SexLab Aroused Creatures SE v04.01"
"0101","+","BetterCaninePenis"
"0102","+","Arousal Based MatchMaker"
"0103","+","Wilding"
"0104","+","PSQ_SSE_1"
"0105","+","SexLabs Beastess"
"0106","+","Bodyslide"
"0107","+","FNIS Behavior"
"0108","+","SKSE Stuff"
 

 

Any advice would be appreciated, tried asking on nexus and they ignored me completely x.x

im by no means an expert, im normally asking the questions not answering them. But anytime i attempt to activate Beeing Female i get a CTD on startup. Maybe try disabling that and see if it works.

[Eyra_Yukina]

In the post on the forums here there was a fix that got it working, i can attempt it to see if that was the issue, though the last thing that happened when I was playing was a CTD when propositioning a guard to let me off from being arrested outside of whiterun, it froze on a black screen, might be a part of flowergirls or one of its addons that gave that option, all i know is thats when I decided to call it a night. tried to get back on to play it today and its CTD at the main menu.

 

~~Just tested, disabling Beeing Female didnt change anything, going to try disabling Flowergirls and all its addons to see if that helps any

~~No changes, still wont start, maybe after this steam update it 'might' work? god im getting aggervated by this =.=

 

~~Potentially found my issue, the SKSE launcher from MO2 crashes but it works fine with the standard, I might need to reinstall SKSE or find a fix for it

[anjenthedog]

Or you might have installed something that's taking SKSE64 down, like an LE mod. If you launch without SKSE, it will ignore (doesn't load) the SKSE dependent mods, 

 

[jaeos]

CTD at menu is usually a missing master. Check every mod and make sure no esp accidentally got turned off. I didn't see an issue with animations (looks like you might only have 8-9k)

And if 107 mods (in reality 104+3dlc) is all you have you should be pretty stable (not running out of RAM or Vram). I am also unsure what organizer you are using, be it vortex or MO2. If you are using Vortex, I'm sorry i can't narrow it down further than this. You can also take a look at the pinned post for modding for beginners by aylis and compare that mod list (about 400 mods) and possibly rearrange your mod list and find your missing master/CTD issue.

to test if it is the actual skse or a mod that needs skse you need to disable all the mods and start skse alone. no ctd then the skse install is fine. And Honestly with only 100 mods it shouldn't take you long to find it if you disable 10 at a time and go up(or down) until you no longer get a ctd. Then you know it is one of 10. turn half of those 10 back on no CTD then you know it's one of the last 5,, if it does then it's one of the first 5. then it's turn one on and check. rinse and repeat until you have the ctd. thats your broken mod.

[Eyra_Yukina]

11 minutes ago, jaeos said:

CTD at menu is usually a missing master. Check every mod and make sure no esp accidentally got turned off. I didn't see an issue with animations (looks like you might only have 8-9k)

And if 107 mods (in reality 104+3dlc) is all you have you should be pretty stable (not running out of RAM or Vram). I am also unsure what organizer you are using, be it vortex or MO2. If you are using Vortex, I'm sorry i can't narrow it down further than this. You can also take a look at the pinned post for modding for beginners by aylis and compare that mod list (about 400 mods) and possibly rearrange your mod list and find your missing master/CTD issue.

to test if it is the actual skse or a mod that needs skse you need to disable all the mods and start skse alone. no ctd then the skse install is fine. And Honestly with only 100 mods it shouldn't take you long to find it if you disable 10 at a time and go up(or down) until you no longer get a ctd. Then you know it is one of 10. turn half of those 10 back on no CTD then you know it's one of the last 5,, if it does then it's one of the first 5. then it's turn one on and check. rinse and repeat until you have the ctd. thats your broken mod.

So i tested it and even reinstalled SE as well as SKSE, I use MO2 and nothing worked, even removing all mods, it still CTD when I ran it with nothing installed using the SKSE launch. I just said fck it and im in the process of reinstalling thru vortex till i can get a grasp on why MO2 stopped working for me after only a day.

[jaeos]

9 minutes ago, yuuks said:

So i tested it and even reinstalled SE as well as SKSE, I use MO2 and nothing worked, even removing all mods, it still CTD when I ran it with nothing installed using the SKSE launch. I just said fck it and im in the process of reinstalling thru vortex till i can get a grasp on why MO2 stopped working for me after only a day.

go into the data folder for your skyrim. find the skse.exe and double click it. That launches the skse the same as MO2 would but without the virtual file system. if you still have a ctd your install of skse went bad. If it loads fine though then the skse link that is in MO2 went bad. 

Wait.. did you run skyrim from both it's launcher and the MO2 launcher without any mods before hand?

[Eyra_Yukina]

10 minutes ago, jaeos said:

go into the data folder for your skyrim. find the skse.exe and double click it. That launches the skse the same as MO2 would but without the virtual file system. if you still have a ctd your install of skse went bad. If it loads fine though then the skse link that is in MO2 went bad. 

Wait.. did you run skyrim from both it's launcher and the MO2 launcher without any mods before hand?

SKSE in the folder itself worked perfectly but the MO2 link wouldnt run at all. I ran it before doing anything then ran it with the SKSE before installing any mods with MO2. I think my MO2 broke when the game crashed and had to be force closed due to infinite loading screen while trying to activate a scene from flowergirls. I figured out that the issue was MO2's launching was the broken factor, will see if it was more than that shortly since im almost done installing and setting up the mods with vortex. also removed beeing female as it was a previous issue so switched to fertility mode. Once I make sure everythings working again, I'll redownload SE after wiping the files and redownloading MO2 in hopes that it was a fluke issue and not something I'll have to go thru every time I wanna play using it

[jaeos]

5 minutes ago, yuuks said:

SKSE in the folder itself worked perfectly but the MO2 link wouldnt run at all. I ran it before doing anything then ran it with the SKSE before installing any mods with MO2. I think my MO2 broke when the game crashed and had to be force closed due to infinite loading screen while trying to activate a scene from flowergirls. I figured out that the issue was MO2's launching was the broken factor, will see if it was more than that shortly since im almost done installing and setting up the mods with vortex. also removed beeing female as it was a previous issue so switched to fertility mode. Once I make sure everythings working again, I'll redownload SE after wiping the files and redownloading MO2 in hopes that it was a fluke issue and not something I'll have to go thru every time I wanna play using it

If mine hangs up during a sex scene (don't use flowergirls) i restart my computer. but up top check the blue and green gears and the shortcut to skse points to where skse actually is and not off on some other drive or old install.. You shouldn't need to reinstall MO2 You might only need to redo the shortcut links and profiles

[Eyra_Yukina]

8 minutes ago, jaeos said:

If mine hangs up during a sex scene (don't use flowergirls) i restart my computer. but up top check the blue and green gears and the shortcut to skse points to where skse actually is and not off on some other drive or old install.. You shouldn't need to reinstall MO2 You might only need to redo the shortcut links and profiles

I did try that as well as rebooted my pc, I think i will end up removing flowergirls since SL is alot better with more options. I'm sure theres alot more mods out there that would do the same and better. But yeah, I reset the location and folder for my SKSE link and it will start the game but the moment the main menu appears, before the sound can start it closes out of the game with no error messages of any sort. Vortex however works fine so far, have roughly 40ish mods to download and install still, all the LL mods that I lost track of as well as a few new ones that I forgot I wanted to add, they should work and if it works with vortex then kewl, if not than I dunno. To be honest as much as most dont like vortex (myself included) I dont like something that only works once before dying alot less.

[jaeos]

9 hours ago, yuuks said:

I did try that as well as rebooted my pc, I think i will end up removing flowergirls since SL is alot better with more options. I'm sure theres alot more mods out there that would do the same and better. But yeah, I reset the location and folder for my SKSE link and it will start the game but the moment the main menu appears, before the sound can start it closes out of the game with no error messages of any sort. Vortex however works fine so far, have roughly 40ish mods to download and install still, all the LL mods that I lost track of as well as a few new ones that I forgot I wanted to add, they should work and if it works with vortex then kewl, if not than I dunno. To be honest as much as most dont like vortex (myself included) I dont like something that only works once before dying alot less.

Don't forget about the conversion thread that lists 98-99% of the mods that have been converted. It may be an issue with a new version of MO2 as well. I'm using 2.2.2.1 version. Just to double check.. you are using MO2 and not MO?

[Vyxenne]

On 7/9/2020 at 6:42 PM, yuuks said:

To be honest as much as most dont like vortex (myself included)

Please provide a link to the survey on which you are basing the statement that most [Vortex-supported game players or even just SSE players] "don't like Vortex."

 

It's cool that you don't like Vortex (odd, of course, since it apparently solved your problem for you) but I don't believe you can possibly speak for most players of modded SSE + Oldrim + Morrowind + Oblivion + Fallouts 3, NV and 4 + Cyberpunk 2077 + GTA-V, etc. etc. + all the dozens (hundreds?) of other games Vortex supports...

[Grey Cloud]

On 5/6/2021 at 1:42 AM, Vyxenne said:

It's cool that you don't like Vortex

True enough but over on Nexus if one has the temerity to criticise an aspect of Vortex the thread gets locked.

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/9806973-vortex-mistakes-skyrim-mods-for-oblivion/

 

I'm 'Beechams'.

[Vyxenne]

On 5/7/2021 at 5:39 AM, Grey Cloud said:

True enough but over on Nexus if one has the temerity to criticise an aspect of Vortex the thread gets locked.

https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/9806973-vortex-mistakes-skyrim-mods-for-oblivion/

 

I'm 'Beechams'.

I would disagree- I have been vehement - strident and deliberately annoying, even - about the inability of Vortex to generate a printable-format Mods list (not a plugins list but an actual Mods list text file) and two other recurring issues whose nature escapes me now- because they have been fixed. I have also submitted two semi-snarky bug reports in the last 30 days, critical of not only Vortex but the inane "examples" in their bug-report format.

• Describe the problem in Detail. (I compose, and edit until it's perfect, a detailed, sequentially-organized narrative description of the problem, along the lines of "when I do THIS, I expect THAT but get THIS OTHER THING instead.)
• What is the situation when the bug occurs? What are you doing/trying to do? (I redundantly Copy-Paste half of the above narrative)
• What do you activate/launch in Vortex? Which buttons are you clicking? (I redundantly Copy-Paste half of the above narrative)
• What is the expected result? What do you want Vortex to do? (I redundantly Copy-Paste half of the above narrative)
• What is the actual result? What does Vortex actually do? (I redundantly Copy-Paste half of the above narrative)
• What have you done to mitigate this issue? How are you working around it? (I redundantly Copy-Paste half of the above narrative)
• Etc. etc. ad nauseam with the result that it takes 2 hours to file a 5-minute bug report. My responses to every section other than the first is "I'm running out of new ways to re-state what I already put in the Title and described in detail in the first section."

No threadlocks.

 

So far (excluding the 2 new ones I just recently submitted) they have (eventually) been fixed, or correctly dismissed (by pointing out my misconceptions), all of the issues I raised. Not one of my posts or bug discussions has ever been threadlocked. My point is, yes, some unknown "Staff" person locked your thread, but I don't believe that is a typical Vortex Team response to any criticism of Vortex as you allege. Are they defensive? You bet- as you and I would be when the barrage of nasty, demanding posts about our baby just keeps on a-comin' with no end in sight.

 

Is Vortex perfect? Of course not. I'm a fangirl anyway. Does Vortex do some things better than MO2? Yep. And vice-versa. They are similar in concept, yet different in their approaches. Vortex seeks to be more accessible than MO2 while providing most of its functionality plus user-friendly stuff that MO2 doesn't do, like auto-installing SKSE64.

 

Also, who TF is that guy who locked the thread? His tag says "Staff" but I've never heard of him- obviously I'm familiar with Dark, Picky and Tannin, but not that guy...

 

TL; DR: Yes, someone who is (apparently) not on the Vortex Team locked that thread after weeks of redundant, repetitive arguing. No, that's not their typical response to "any criticism of Vortex." Maybe it's your breath.

[Grey Cloud]

12 hours ago, Vyxenne said:

No, that's not their typical response to "any criticism of Vortex.

Mayhap just their response to criticism of things they have no answer to.

Have you ever heard of SMIM's bsa causing CTDs? Or anyone having problems due to a bsa being from Oblivion?

 

In the email notification I got there was a link to a Nexus wiki page.

"Even among the variations of the same file type, they can cause unwanted side effects such as preventing the game from starting up."

https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Bethesda_mod_archives

 

If I weren't so lazy I'd go back to NMM tomorrow and bollocks to Nanny Tanin and Vortex.

[Vyxenne]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

Mayhap just their response to criticism of things they have no answer to.

You may have a point there. Not much need to threadlock criticism that says "Vortex sucks because it needs absolute mod installation date/times, and all I'm getting are relative times like "a week ago" and "last year" when they can answer "Open the Settings tab and untick the Show relative times box, fool." (Don't ask me how I came up with that particular example.)

 

 

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

If I weren't so lazy I'd go back to NMM tomorrow and bollocks to Nanny Tanin and Vortex.

 

Well, but then you would lose the per-file conflict resolution and virtual installs that let you switch gears at a whim, then revert at will (poor Will, everybody is always reverting at him...)

 

BTW, does "bollocks to Nanny Tannin and Vortex" automatically presume one bollock each, or do they have to do rock-paper-scissors for them? Asking for a friend.

 

I have no personal bollocks to speak of, so I need a man.

 

Oh, um, to keep me a breast.

 

Crap. Of the current distribution etiquette for bollocks. I have to go touch myself now

[Grey Cloud]

3 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

the per-file conflict resolution

That is the only plus for me.

 

4 minutes ago, Vyxenne said:

virtual installs that let you switch gears at a whim

Not sure what you mean here. The reasoning for the staged/deployed thing is a complete mystery to me as I cannot see any benefit for it. Maybe it is just the way I 'play' Skyrim - I'm forever editing esps and chopping and changing mods and whatnot so I am forever having to manually 'deploy'. This is a royal pain in the proverbial.