E Boy Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Using HDT SMP, everytime a sexlab animation plays NPC's boobs start getting piched up by nipple while spasming: Spoiler   The effect only gets worse with time and doesn't stop until I disable SMP on the character and re-enable it If it helps, here's the load order: Spoiler # Automatically generated by Vortex Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Campfire.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm CreatureFramework.esm FISS.esp FlowerGirls SE.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heels Sound.esm RaceCompatibility.esm SGEyebrows.esp SAS.esl ZaZAnimationPack.esm SGHairPackBase.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SkyUI_SE.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Immersive Wenches.esp 3BBB.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp MilkModNEW.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancy.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp ZIA_Complete Pack.esp HF_Lakeview_PHB_EX.esp mihailcoralatronach.esp RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp MagnoCumGaudio.esp mihaillegion.esp J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp Dianqing Outfit.esp [Zynx][Melodic] Novarien Outfit.esp NIOPA-Objects.esp NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp SexlabLightMeUp.esp SOS - Animal Addon.esp Animal_SOS.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp KSWigsSMP.esp Gatti12Jewelry.esp RM_AnimatedOverlays.esp Extended Encounters.esp TERAArmorsSSE.esp MiniBikini.esp playerequipmentmanager.esp FEMALE.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp ZAPFurniturePlacer.esp SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAdventures.esp CommunityOverlays3.esp SexLab Extra Voices.esp icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp BFCB_Beauti-Full_Clothing_Bodypaints.esp BikiniAscendVolume1.esp CitrusHead - Standalone.esp CBBE.esp CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp Customizable Camera.esp Dalish_Vallaslin.esp Eyes of Aber.esp FNIS.esp Facelight.esp FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp Rikushai_Flamebringer_Tattoo.esp FreckleMania2.esp GPPoses.esp Holiday Gift Hairdos.esp HavoksLipPatterns.esp Ho1DrgPose.esp Brows.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp InstantMining.esp KJ Tattoos 2K.esp KS Hairdo's.esp LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Medium.esp Lost Eyes.esp Maevan2EyeBrows.esp MfgFix.esp MilkModNEW CF.esp MiniBikiniExtra.esp MonsterEyes.esp NusbieVoices.esp Nuska Warpaint.esp Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp Phenderix Magic Sounds Improved.esp Poser Hotkeys.esp RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp RaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp Senua's Warpaints.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp AIO SE TATTOOS.esp SL Peeping Tom.esp KomAnimObjects.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp Animal_SOS_Original_Mesh.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SeranaDialogAddon.esp SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SexLabRandomSex.esp SexLabDefeat.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Start As Nord Female.esp SubsurfaceScatteringShader.esp SummerCustomeEyes.esp Sunstarved_Tanlines.esp BA_SOS_Overrides_esl.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp titkit.esp UltimateCombat.esp UltimateCombatSekiro.esp WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp WeightLessLegacyAll.esp wgwarpaint2p0.esp WickedBlade.esp mihaildwarvendriller.esp mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimSE.esp opmfgconsole.esp saLa_Hairs.esp vwr IdleMarkers.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp Poser Merged Module.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp TeraArmorsSSE Leveled Lists Rare.esp TeraArmorsSSE RARE USSEP Patch.esp FluffArgonians.esp Fluffjiits.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp Book of UUNP - Textures.esp mihailspectres.esp mihailogres.esp ASOS Race Patch.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp mihailimps.esp mihailcorprusvictims.esp mihaildaedroth.esp Bijin AIO.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp mihailoctopuses.esp mihailesobonecolossus.esp mihailseal.esp mihailsiltstriders.esp mihaillurcher.esp HF_Windstad_PHB_EX.esp HG_Lilitha.esp Rayne_follower.esp Ruti_Follower.esp AFT - Dragonborn Patch.esp AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp DragonAgeWeapons.esp mihailrockgolem.esp mihailhousedrescamp.esp mihaillanddreugh.esp HF_Heljarchen_PHBXB1_EX.esp mihailwatcher.esp mihailwraiths.esp mihaildementors.esp mihailwillothewisp.esp EpicArmorBoss.esp CS_TagNTrackSE.esp mihailsnowray.esp mihailfogling.esp mihailicegolem.esp mihailseacow.esp mihailfleshgolem.esp FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp mihailhym.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp mihailleshen.esp mihailrottenmaidens.esp mihailczart.esp RoadInspections.esp mihailwerebat.esp The Manipulator.esp mihailmimic.esp mihailvampirelords.esp TAWOBA LL No Chance Topless.esp Bikini Ascend LL No Chance Topless.esp LADX_SSE.esp mihailxivilai.esp mihailogrim.esp Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp HentaiCreatures.esp mihailmmasithis.esp AFT - USSEP Patch.esp mihailstormgolem.esp Undaunted.esp mihaillich.esp mihaildwarvenmagetta.esp mihailsamaria.esp mihailverminousfabricant.esp mihailironatronach.esp mihailnordicsentinel.esp mihailnecrophages.esp mihailgorons.esp TropicalIsland.esp mihailgiantyoungling.esp Natureborn Body Paints.esp mihailoldgod.esp mihailogroid.esp mihailpyramidhead.esp mihailcyclop.esp mihailnemesis.esp Miri_Follower.esp PAN_FollowerPack1.esp Review Studio.esp Bikini Armors.esp _GSPoses.esp StormLord.esp Buster - Johnskyrim.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp Evil MasterMind Armor.esp TheHermit.esp BloodWitchArmor.esp Celes Rogue Armor CBBE.esp Celes Rogue Armor UNP.esp DragonLordSwords.esp Fluff's Hybrid Argonian RDO Patch.esp Fluff's Hybrid Khajiit RDO Patch.esp mihailgrahl.esp mihailicecarvedsteed.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Jormundandr Dragon.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp LazyTools.esp Zee_Follower.esp Loha_Follower.esp MagnoCumGaudio AFT Patch.esp MagnoCumGaudio RaceCompatability Patch.esp MagnoCumGaudio USSEP Patch.esp RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp BodySearch.esp BodySearchND.esp Sexlab Anim Objects.esp mihailairatronach.esp mihailashgolem.esp mihailcrystalgolem.esp mihailesocenturion.esp mihailelementaltriad.esp mihailrockatronachs.esp mihailtreeofsouls.esp mihailvampirebeasts.esp Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp ValkyrieSwordShield.esp Contractor Armor.esp RDO - USSEP Patch.esp DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp TAWOB_SOS_Overrides_esl.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp Toccata as Elisif.esp adonnays elven warblade.esp CROSS_Crucible.esp corvussword.esp DaedricUltraGreatsword.esp DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp Nightingale Prime remaster.esp Mavari Armor.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp MithrodinSword.esp Sulfuras The Reclaimed Hand SE - Johnskyrim.esp AncientTonguesSwords.esp Unique Uniques.esp ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp Vicious Heart.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp WetFunction.esp Judgment Wenches.esp Forgotten Wenches.esp Hateful Wenches.esp Deadly Wenches.esp YurianaWench.esp Hateful Wenches -Dread Knight Weapon Set-.esp ZaZSandboxPatch.esp Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.esp Immersive Wenches -SG hairs- Patch.esp Deadly Wenches -Tera Armors Random-.esp Dawnguard Map Markers.esp JHBeautifulFemalesMerge.esp Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp The Ordinary Women.esp All_Housecarls.esp Bijin_AIO 2018.esp Bijin NPCs.esp PAN_NPCs.esp PAN_NPCs_DG.esp Serana.esp BW Ria.esp MBWSFollowersReplacer.esp Valerica.esp DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp Fresh Women.esp KaliliesNPCs.esp PAN_Initiates.esp PAN_NPCs_DB.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp PAN_Frida.esp PAN_LethalLadies.esp PAN_BlackBriar.esp PAN_WarriorWomen.esp PAN_VampireLeaders.esp PAN_Aumriel.esp Atlas Legendary.esp  I accept any kind of insight.
anjenthedog Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 SMP appears to be an open loop control algorithm (to me, as a programmer and former process control engineer). That is, it's inherently unstable. So you will find that you periodically need to reset SMP. For SMP items (wigs/clothing/armor), that means if they get "wonky", remove them then re-equip. For body SMP reset, it means using the CBBB-3BBB or BHUNP (depending on which you're using) hotkeys for switching to CBPC mode and back again (or just leaving it set to CBPC until you need the SMP response.
E Boy Posted July 6, 2020 Author Posted July 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, anjenthedog said: SMP appears to be an open loop control algorithm (to me, as a programmer and former process control engineer). That is, it's inherently unstable. So you will find that you periodically need to reset SMP. For SMP items (wigs/clothing/armor), that means if they get "wonky", remove them then re-equip. For body SMP reset, it means using the CBBB-3BBB or BHUNP (depending on which you're using) hotkeys for switching to CBPC mode and back again (or just leaving it set to CBPC until you need the SMP response. I know it's unstable, the thing is it wasn't like this before. It would still jitter sometimes and glitch out, but now it's just almost everytime some animation between two female actors happens that has contact with the boobs. Sometimes, it just bugs randomly. Started happening after upgrading my game and mods to the newest SKSE.  I could try setting hotkeys for the SMP body activation, but it would be pretty annoying to have to unglitch them every now and then.
Dorabella Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Such a problem was caused by KSHairdo's HDT and / or SGHairdo's. Â Now, I don't know if KSHairdo's SMP could create the same noise, but you could simply experience a change of hairstyle using one that is free of HDT and / or SMP. If the problem goes away, you know where it comes from
E Boy Posted July 6, 2020 Author Posted July 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said: Such a problem was caused by KSHairdo's HDT and / or SGHairdo's.  Now, I don't know if KSHairdo's SMP could create the same noise, but you could simply experience a change of hairstyle using one that is free of HDT and / or SMP. If the problem goes away, you know where it comes from I do have KSHairdos SMP installed, but I never use it at all  And all NPCs are affected by this glitch besides the ones that use the femalebody inside the character assets folder, apparently. (they all have the same mesh, just different place)
NuclearSatan Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Hi, I had the same problem. For me it helped to disable any kind of scaling in sexlab.
E Boy Posted July 6, 2020 Author Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, NuclearSatan said: Hi, I had the same problem. For me it helped to disable any kind of scaling in sexlab. Waaaait... that could make sense! It kinda started happening after I enabled scaling so actors would have same size
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