byby001 Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 Hi guys! I hope you're doing fine. Can you help me with this one? I searched the internet for two days straight and I found nothing on this issue. Please forget any mistakes in English, it's not my native language. I'm modding Skyrim LE for screenshots and video purposes. I have a fairly heavy mod load and I'm still searching for the sweet spot between beauty and the game not crashing too often. I got all sorts of issues until then and I always managed to find a solution. This though... I'm at a loss. The player character (male or female) has red texture skin on the body, feet and hands (not the head nor the schlong) but the normals are here. Thing is, it is relative to water and my camera...? here with SAM light body, Crude vitruvia retexture for SAM light, Wet function, realistic water 2 and Rudy ENB same but with wet function uninstalled. No overlays of body hair or warpaints or scars or anything on PC. Sometimes the skin texture would reappear at the edge of my screen if I put the PC there with tfc. I didn't manage to get it everytime though. I started having this issue after: installing water function -> it not working properly (had to force the texture and specular) -> seeing the issue with the overlays (wet function, scars and body hair) dissapearing related to water and camera -> then disabling wet and cold because I was having too much CTD and wanted a less heavy mod load. I talk about overlays because before all of this, I was trying to resolve this issue: body hair + scars overlays dissapear relative to water and camera. Same with a female PC. I undressed NPCs and they are fine. I thought about skin texture, body morph, hdt, ENB, racemenu, wet function, wet and cold, water mods, everything to do with SAM, SOS, CBBE (what I was using for the bodies until then). I uninstalled all of those + their plugins/fixes and nothing changed. If I uninstall all of the mods changing the PC's appearance, well... the head become red too!? Then I uninstalled 3/4 of my mods and the problem is still there. If I disable the ENB the issue is still here. I'm using a clean save, right after Helgen. I looked at my papyrus log and at this point, if there is something to understand from it, I'm just not good enough to understand it. Here it is: Papyrus.0.log Here is my load order as of today, with the issue still occuring (I'm using Vortex and LOOT): Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm 8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm 9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 10 a Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 11 b Overwrite.esm 12 c ApachiiHair.esm 13 d OverwriteRNAM.esm 14 e HighResTexturePack01.esp 15 f HighResTexturePack02.esp 16 10 HighResTexturePack03.esp 17 11 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 18 12 WetandCold.esp 19 13 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 20 14 Shadows - Skyrim.esp 21 15 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 22 16 EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp 23 17 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 24 18 SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp 25 19 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 26 1a DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp 27 1b NPC_Overhaul_V_3_.esp 28 1c Blowing in the Wind.esp 29 1d Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp 30 1e CastleGrey.esp 31 1f Immersive Interiors.esp 32 20 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp 33 21 SoS - The Wilds.esp 34 22 SoS - Civilization.esp 35 23 Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp 36 24 Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp 37 25 ELFX - Weathers.esp 38 26 JKs LITE - Cities.esp 39 27 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp 40 28 AzuraHouse.esp 41 29 DSIII - Base Set.esp 42 2a RaceMenu.esp 43 2b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 44 2c Immersive Sounds - Weaponry.esp 45 2d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 46 2e dD-Short Script Range.esp 47 2f ContinueGameNoCrash.esp 48 30 FNIS.esp 49 31 StandaloneFollower.esp 50 32 WondersofWeather.esp 51 33 More Horses - Giddy Up.esp 52 34 Poser Hotkeys.esp 53 35 Poser Merged Module.esp 54 36 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 55 37 SC_hairs.esp 56 38 Rudy_ENB_RW2_COT.esp 57 39 Puddel Enhancer RV 2.esp 58 3a SMIM-Merged-All.esp 59 3b RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 60 3c DIS_Authentic_Legion.esp 61 3d Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp 62 3e mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimLE.esp 63 3f Shadows - Dawnguard.esp 64 40 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp 65 41 More Horses.esp 66 42 Atlas Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 67 43 Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp 68 44 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp 69 45 Unique Grasses_clippingfixer.esp 70 46 KS Hairdo's.esp 71 47 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esp 72 48 SkyUI.esp 73 49 Customizable Camera.esp 74 4a SGEyebrows.esp 75 4b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 76 4c DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp 77 4d LeftHandRings.esp 78 4e ClearWater_for_ENB_RWT.esp Embers HD Snow BDS Patch.esp 79 4f Unique Grasses.esp 80 50 iHUD.esp 81 51 SkyrimIsWindy.esp 82 52 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 83 53 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 84 54 Orc Unuglyfication Female only (standalone.esp 85 55 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 86 56 RavenCastle.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 87 57 Morning Fogs.esp 88 58 LostLongSwords.esp 89 59 LegendaryRings_Eng.esp 90 5a LegendaryRings_Rus.esp 91 5b EmbersHD.esp 92 5c CoveredBridgesofSkyrim.esp 93 5d Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 94 5e Orc Unuglyfication (standalone).esp 95 5f LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp 96 60 Orc Unuglyfication.esp 97 61 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 98 62 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 99 63 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 100 64 Shadows - Weather Tweaks.esp 101 65 TrueStorms.esp 102 66 DIS_RealisticArmor.esp 103 67 DIS_Armor_Fractions.esp 104 68 ISWeaponry Enhanced Blood Patch.esp 105 69 UIExtensions.esp 106 6a AddItemMenuLE.esp 107 6b StormcloakWarrior-Replacer.esp 108 6c Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp 109 6d Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp 110 6e More Horses - Normalized Specials.esp 111 6f Overwrite.esp 112 70 OverwriteRNAM.esp 113 71 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 114 72 Gri_Scarf_and_Gugel.esp 115 73 Real Roads.esp 116 74 MajesticMountains.esp 117 75 FNISspells.esp 118 76 Nisepose Module.esp 119 77 NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp NB-Scars.esp 120 78 Vivid Snow.esp Mind you it is not the same load as the one I had when the issue occured. I didn't made a LOOT copy at this point - a mistake - but there were the sexlab framework, 2 animation packs, sexlab aroused, sexlab tools, sexlab fadeblack, SOS grower, Floppy SOS and everything to do with hdt for the bodies (and working perfectly). Just before this issue occured, I was testing "follow me for sex" and it just crashed my game. I read on the forum that it is not unheard of, so I just uninstalled it. I also installed SOS light a few days back, thinking that I needed it for SAM light to have a funtionning schlong, then uninstalled it when I realized it wasn't. But could it be related to the issue? I read that SOS can be difficult to uninstall? But then why my female PC would be affected...? I don't see how... and the issue is still there without them anyway. IDK... I'm just theorizing. I enable/disable/uninstall everything via Vortex. I didn't install anything manually except the ENB. I've been modding skyrim for years - although it is my first time using any sex related mods - and I admit, that's a new one. I don't really understand how to tackle this problem. Thanks in advance for taking the time to help me, it is really appreciated!
Grey Cloud Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 My money is on an overlay for the red one. Are you starting a new game after you remove mods? Using a save is no good as stuff gets baked into the save and stays after you have uninstalled the mod. All those weather and water mods aren't doing you any favours either. 1 hour ago, byby001 said: started having this issue after: installing water function What is 'water function'? What are these? 11 b Overwrite.esm 13 d OverwriteRNAM.esm 111 6f Overwrite.esp 112 70 OverwriteRNAM.esp
Guest Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 The specific issue with water, is generally seen on meshes with transparency enabled, which will disappear under specific shaders, including the refraction used by water. I'm guessing transparent overlays will cause similar problems. Both Racemenu and SlaveTats should list Nioverride overlays, but if neither show up, check the regular textures. That being the regular diffuse, (fe)malebody_1.dds, the specular, (fe)malebody_1_s.dds and the subsurface scattering map, (fe)malebody_1_sk.dds The diffuse map should look like the normal skin color, the specular should be largely black and the subsurface scattering one should look like the diffuse one, but slightly redder with veins etc highlighted.
byby001 Posted June 20, 2020 Author Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: Are you starting a new game after you remove mods? Using a save is no good as stuff gets baked into the save and stays after you have uninstalled the mod. Yup. Clean save, right after Helgen, no mods. I do this every time since it's a build for screenshots and videos, I don't actually play the game, I just reload the same save. 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: All those weather and water mods aren't doing you any favours either. Yeah but the thing is, everything was fine with them until recently. And if so, why is it affecting only the player character and not the NPCs? I've been modding Skyrim for a month now, testing here and there. I wonder if I didn't build something up in the game files, if vortex is even capable of doing that without me noticing...? 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: What is 'water function'? This mod, to have dynamic sweat and droplet effects on the skin. I read it is quite taxing so I wouldn't be surprised if it affected my game. 1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said: What are these? 11 b Overwrite.esm 13 d OverwriteRNAM.esm 111 6f Overwrite.esp 112 70 OverwriteRNAM.esp Those are from DynDOLOD. I don't understand what they are doing exactly. 1 hour ago, Targultoon said: The diffuse map should look like the normal skin color, the specular should be largely black and the subsurface scattering one should look like the diffuse one, but slightly redder with veins etc highlighted. The thing is when I open my data folder to check the textures, I see this : No textures to check... but they show up on the NPCs anyway. I checked the speculars from wet function (just the folder on my deskop) and they look normal to me. I can open them in photoshop and they look fine. Thank you for your explanation about water shader, I will try to search in that direction. My first though was an issue with overlays but since I still get this issue while I have no overlays, no racemenu and nothing but the vanilla skin, I really don't understand. I disabled all my mods relative to water a few minutes ago and the issue is still here.
Guest Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, byby001 said: Thank you for your explanation about water shader, I will try to search in that direction. My first though was an issue with overlays but since I still get this issue while I have no overlays, no racemenu and nothing but the vanilla skin, I really don't understand. I disabled all my mods relative to water a few minutes ago and the issue is still here. The issue of the skin being red isn't actually caused by water, it's just that overlays disappear in water. You say the red skin disappears for the face with some appearance mods? Could you find out what specific mod does it?
blank_v Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Quote 42 2a RaceMenu.esp Do u use any Body paints?... Its Your preset or u downloaded it from internet?... Some mods may apply Body paints on Slots u can't even see... 1) Go to: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins 2) Find file: nioverride.ini 3) Fin line: [Overlays/Body] 4) Change amount from *Probably* 6 to for example 20 iNumOverlays=6 -> iNumOverlays=20 And check Your body paints in Game 1) Start new game ( just coc riverwood in Main Menu ) 2) open console "~" key by default 3) type: showracemenu 4) check body paints If some mods are trying to apply Body Paints You don't even have, whole body will be painted with color used for paint... ... Btw... if u want to make Mod Setup for Making shots... srsl?... Quote I'm modding Skyrim LE for screenshots and video purposes Quote I'm still searching for the sweet spot between beauty and the game not crashing too often OSA / OSex and Poser mods are perfect... idk how hard u have to try to Crash Your game with them... + ENB and ENB Tools ( like for example rotate and change FOV with mouse wheel ) are also perfect... u can't crash Your game with that... If You want to rotate Your Camera in game with ENB: http://enbseries.enbdev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=75209 FreeFlyCamSKSE_v11.zip Example: Spoiler You rotate Your Camera with Q and E, zoom ( change FOV ) with Mouse Wheel Rotation speed is limited to Your Camera speed ( TFC ) If You want to make Shots / Videos in Trashrim You should also download Better Free Camera... Im talking about this because i dont see BTC in Your Load Order He he: Spoiler Here You can find BTC: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78389 There is a lot more mods u should use if u want to make good Videos and Shots... but im lazy and its a lot of writing / searching in google xD //Edit: or maybe something is wrong with Your body... Can u upload Your body texture file?... i'm not talking about MOD u use im talking about ACTUAL FILE u have in Your Data Folder You can find Your texture here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Textures\actors\character\female and probably for males its ...\character\male ... but i don't have any male textures xDDD i'm asking for all 4 Textures - femalebody_1.dds - femalebody_1_msn.dds - femalebody_1_s.dds - femalebody_1_sk.dds + if You can upload Your Body meshes C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\skyrim\Data\Meshes\actors\character\character assets - femalebody_0.nif - femalebody_1.nif ** All meshes can emite colors, maybe something is wrong with mesh **
Grey Cloud Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 9 hours ago, byby001 said: Those are from DynDOLOD. I don't understand what they are doing exactly. I don't think they are.
Tlam99 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 for me it looks like a alpha channel problem of a tattoo mod or skin. load order might help
blank_v Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 @T-lam Quote for me it looks like a alpha channel problem of a tattoo mod or skin. load order might help How about next time u read whole post? not only half... here is his Load Order: Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 7 7 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm 8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm 9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 10 a Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 11 b Overwrite.esm 12 c ApachiiHair.esm 13 d OverwriteRNAM.esm 14 e HighResTexturePack01.esp 15 f HighResTexturePack02.esp 16 10 HighResTexturePack03.esp 17 11 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 18 12 WetandCold.esp 19 13 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 20 14 Shadows - Skyrim.esp 21 15 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 22 16 EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp 23 17 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 24 18 SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp 25 19 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 26 1a DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp 27 1b NPC_Overhaul_V_3_.esp 28 1c Blowing in the Wind.esp 29 1d Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch.esp 30 1e CastleGrey.esp 31 1f Immersive Interiors.esp 32 20 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp 33 21 SoS - The Wilds.esp 34 22 SoS - Civilization.esp 35 23 Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp 36 24 Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp 37 25 ELFX - Weathers.esp 38 26 JKs LITE - Cities.esp 39 27 Guards_Armor_Replacer.esp 40 28 AzuraHouse.esp 41 29 DSIII - Base Set.esp 42 2a RaceMenu.esp 43 2b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 44 2c Immersive Sounds - Weaponry.esp 45 2d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 46 2e dD-Short Script Range.esp 47 2f ContinueGameNoCrash.esp 48 30 FNIS.esp 49 31 StandaloneFollower.esp 50 32 WondersofWeather.esp 51 33 More Horses - Giddy Up.esp 52 34 Poser Hotkeys.esp 53 35 Poser Merged Module.esp 54 36 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp 55 37 SC_hairs.esp 56 38 Rudy_ENB_RW2_COT.esp 57 39 Puddel Enhancer RV 2.esp 58 3a SMIM-Merged-All.esp 59 3b RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 60 3c DIS_Authentic_Legion.esp 61 3d Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp 62 3e mcgFemaleWalk for SkyrimLE.esp 63 3f Shadows - Dawnguard.esp 64 40 MajesticMountains_Moss.esp 65 41 More Horses.esp 66 42 Atlas Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 67 43 Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp 68 44 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp 69 45 Unique Grasses_clippingfixer.esp 70 46 KS Hairdo's.esp 71 47 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esp 72 48 SkyUI.esp 73 49 Customizable Camera.esp 74 4a SGEyebrows.esp 75 4b ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 76 4c DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp 77 4d LeftHandRings.esp 78 4e ClearWater_for_ENB_RWT.esp Embers HD Snow BDS Patch.esp 79 4f Unique Grasses.esp 80 50 iHUD.esp 81 51 SkyrimIsWindy.esp 82 52 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 83 53 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 84 54 Orc Unuglyfication Female only (standalone.esp 85 55 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 86 56 RavenCastle.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 87 57 Morning Fogs.esp 88 58 LostLongSwords.esp 89 59 LegendaryRings_Eng.esp 90 5a LegendaryRings_Rus.esp 91 5b EmbersHD.esp 92 5c CoveredBridgesofSkyrim.esp 93 5d Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 94 5e Orc Unuglyfication (standalone).esp 95 5f LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp 96 60 Orc Unuglyfication.esp 97 61 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 98 62 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 99 63 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp100 64 Shadows - Weather Tweaks.esp101 65 TrueStorms.esp102 66 DIS_RealisticArmor.esp103 67 DIS_Armor_Fractions.esp104 68 ISWeaponry Enhanced Blood Patch.esp105 69 UIExtensions.esp106 6a AddItemMenuLE.esp107 6b StormcloakWarrior-Replacer.esp108 6c Immersive Sounds - Footsteps.esp109 6d Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp110 6e More Horses - Normalized Specials.esp111 6f Overwrite.esp112 70 OverwriteRNAM.esp113 71 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp114 72 Gri_Scarf_and_Gugel.esp115 73 Real Roads.esp116 74 MajesticMountains.esp117 75 FNISspells.esp118 76 Nisepose Module.esp119 77 NiOverridePoseAdjustments.esp NB-Scars.esp120 78 Vivid Snow.esp
Tlam99 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 sorry, tried to help. I took a look on the image only. This remembered me that I had a similar issue with poor made slavetats. Here was the alpha channel of the tat the problem. It only appeared on certain light. Best is, forget my post and forgive me.
blank_v Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 @T-lam its ok ^_^ its also @byby001 bad because he write his post very chaotic xD He use Spoilers for LO but no for Images ? lol xDD Spoiler If u hide Image under spoiler, text is easier to read btw. i had same idea probably one Tatto mod is problem... or maybe Meshes / Textures are problem... well... Hands / Feets and Body Texture is in same file... :x... if something is wrong with Texture file it may not load file properly T_T... but it looks like Author abandon this Topic anywaa xD
Tlam99 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, TobiaszPL said: @T-lam its ok ^_^ its also @byby001 bad because he write his post very chaotic xD He use Spoilers for LO but no for Images ? lol xDD Reveal hidden contents If u hide Image under spoiler, text is easier to read btw. i had same idea probably one Tatto mod is problem... or maybe Meshes / Textures are problem... well... Hands / Feets and Body Texture is in same file... :x... if something is wrong with Texture file it may not load file properly T_T... but it looks like Author abandon this Topic anywaa xD Thank you yeah, but hands feet body is different mesh, they might fit and the body not. and light under water is different , map of water over the body. this might enhance the mismatch.
Tlam99 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 ups, on air all except genitals and head red ... this come from another directory. so mesh is very possible
byby001 Posted June 21, 2020 Author Posted June 21, 2020 Thank you everyone for your anwsers! I hope you had a nice week end. On 6/20/2020 at 2:13 AM, Targultoon said: You say the red skin disappears for the face with some appearance mods? Could you find out what specific mod does it? I checked one by one and I cannot reproduce the effect... Maybe I said rubbish ans it was no fault of a new mesh? Answering @TobiaszPL's questions and comments (don't know if I should quote everything but I figured it would make the post even longer than it already is): My characters are my presets made in racemenu. I edited nioverride.ini (iNumOverlays=6 -> iNumOverlays=20) right when I started modding my game. I used OSA a while ago, to look through the poses quickly. I enjoyed it and had no issues whatsoever with it; but I uninstalled it so I could manually edit the poses with NiOverridePoseAdjustments, which frameworks (like sexlab and OSA/OSEX) tend to override, or so I've heard - and experienced. My characters have pretty big height differences and odd proportions; few unedited poses look good with them. I know I can't do anything about that for the animations inside sexlab but at least I can have good looking poses. I actually use better free camera, it was disabled (still is) when the issue occured. The reason was, I wanted to try screenshot assist instead, seemed like the perfect mod... but tfc with screenshot assist hotkey wouldn't work properly (there were no hotkey conflict with another mod and I know tfc can cause problems at the end of an animation, it couldn't explain it). Also, my game looses its mind if I use the tm command (via mod or in console) I don't know why but the issue was there as soon as I started modding my game. I don't mind though, immersive iHUD does the job - and better free camera. I did not know about FreeFlyCam, thanks for sharing, I will try it right away. I am having this issue when my ENB preset is being overwritten by something else (?) and I cannot edit it via the Ingame ENB menu (for exemple I want to enable/disable ambiant occlusion and when I apply or save changes, it goes back to the original preset - that I did not choose). I wonder if I will have the same issue with FreeFlyCam also... Beautiful pic btw, love it! I knew meshes could emite colors so I though changing the meshes will solve it but now that I think about it the issue must be somewhere else, since the issue remains after changing meshes. Do you know if the emiting factor is in the mesh file or is given by something else? Here is the textures for male an female as they are currently in my data folder. I disabled everything so this should be vanilla: Spoiler Btw the overlays I useed were from Empyrean Warpaints, SkFO's skin feature overlays and mbhrop's hair bodypaint (because I couldn't find the body hair I wanted to go with SAM ). 3 of them each to be precise, totaling to 9 overlays per PC. Regarding meshes, I use SAM HDT BBB (+floppy). I use CBBE curvy HDT (+COS) for women; I chosse those because I don't need to edit them much for my purpose except for height scale. I use a different mesh for both gender's faces, "high poly head". Since my characters's faces are heavily edited, I use all the polygons I can. If I disable the high poly head mesh, the issue remains. Same if I use SAM and CBBE without HDT. Same if I use vanilla meshes. 20 hours ago, TobiaszPL said: its also @byby001 bad because he write his post very chaotic xD He use Spoilers for LO but no for Images ? lol xDD [...] but it looks like Author abandon this Topic anywaa xD I am pretty new to LoversLab and I am sorry if I missed/forgot a hard rule for posting. I saw this format on other posts on loverlab, didn't know it was considered chaotic unless it's a whole gallery of pics. If it is my writing that is the issue, I can only hope people understand that, as I said in my first message, I'm not that good at English. And I'm a woman, as stated in my bio. As of the time I'm writing this message, 40 hours have passed since I created this topic. I didn't realize it was long enough to be considered abandonement and I must say that other real life activites took precedent during this week end. I kindly ask that the moderators don't archive this topic yet. I am actually doing this (creating characters, setting up skyrim to make scenes) for friends from a roleplay discord server I'm part of. I will not let this go until I found a solution. On 6/20/2020 at 11:30 AM, Grey Cloud said: I don't think they are. That's what Vortex tells me. Spoiler Could it be an overlays problem if overlays are uninstalled? Or just not present on PC? The first pic I posted is the dude generated before you got to personalize PC at Helgen (although had SAM enabled); has no overlays. I uninstalled racemenu and all mods that edited the characters's appearances. That's what I don't understand. Even when PC has vanilla mesh and vanilla texture they are is still red but the normals are showing. If it was just an overlay problem, I will just do my own textures, bake those babies in and be done with it, problem solved. But how can it be when overlays are not enabled in the game? At this point I don't mind reinstalling the game entirely if it comes to that but I am afraid the same problem will occur. I had the occasional black screen or black textures in the past with certain mods... could it be an issue computer wise? I reinstalled direct X and updated my nvidia driver, clean boot of Windows... I have 16go of RAM and Skyrim is using 3go of it, graphics card GTX 1050 Ti... but my processor is old and it shows.
Grey Cloud Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, byby001 said: That's what Vortex tells me. Have a look in the DynDOLOD archive and see if you can see any of those esps and esms. RNAM is Race Name so why DynDOLOD would be editing those I don't know. I had a look at the archive on Nexus and couldn't see them. I've looked at countless load orders in the tech support section over the last few years and cannot remember seeing them before I could be wrong.
byby001 Posted June 21, 2020 Author Posted June 21, 2020 Ho my God, I found something! I re-checked the overlay folder in Data>Textures and saw one single .dss file. I thought nothing of it for a long time, thought it was so the overlays are visible and not totally transparent?... but then it hit me: it's red. I thought "nothing to lose" and made it black. Spoiler And would you look at thaaaaaat: Spoiler Why the face is black too? I still don't understand. I changed it to cyan blue and: Spoiler (enabled SAM too) The face has no problem this time? Where does this file comes from?? it stays when I uninstall all of my mods, even though it is a folder managed by Vortex. Kinda thought it would have deleted it when I uninstalled overlays. I checked the files from my overlays mods (Empyrean Warpaints, SkFO's skin feature overlays and mbhrop's hair bodypaint) and I don't see this file. Is it automatically generated? I don't know. I don't remember if there is an overlay folder in vanilla Skyrim LE. So I think it's safe to say that I found the problem. But... I don't know where this file is coming from... can I delete it manually? Fuck it, I did it. Now I can see the skin texture and overlays again. Back to square one because the overlays (bodypaints) are still invisible under water... but not the warpaints on the face. Spoiler I go in Racemenu and this happens (not the first time): Spoiler Why not the face nor the penis's foreskin though? The skin texture comes back when I equip and unequip a piece of armor, meaning when I reload the mesh and textures, I suppose. Overlays are still invisible under water. Fun fact, it is visible if the camera is at the edge of the water: Spoiler I re-checked The overlays folder and the mysterious .dss did not appeared so it is not generated during playthrough. There is the folder for SkFO's skin features (scars). Now I am just confused.
Guest Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 For the overlays disappearing underwater, try this mod. I'm not sure if it works with later ENB binaries, but it might be worth a shot.
Tlam99 Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Dds files almost ever contain an alpha channel. The mask of this channel is displayed in red as standard setting. (at least in the photoeditors I know) Removing this file removed the the alpha (transparency) which makes the Tattoos visible. I use Photoshop, if switching to channel display on editing a dds, I see RGB and alpha mask. Editing alpha, e.g., brush away red or insert red, makes tattoos visible or hides them.
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