BHUNP AND CBBE 3BBB. Load order?

[anjenthedog]

So... I've been rebuilding my game since I had an unexpected update to 1.5.97/2.0.17 about a week ago. Last night, I reinstalled BHUNP to augment my modded, formerly UUNP and SevenBase followers (that is those who will  be my followers when I get back to them and sign them back up to my follower list, since I had to start a new game after my old ones became corrupted during the transition....)

 

Anyway, I use Vortex as my mod manager, and Vortex popped up with a load order contention for CBBE 3BBB vs BHUNP during deployment. (I supposed there's something similar in MO2/etc but ftr, I use Vortex. which one probably shouldn't matter in the context of this query)

 

My player is CBBE 3BBB. Some modded followers are BHUNP. 

 

So... question for all the modding masters...

 

Was I correct in choosing to load CBBE 3BBB "after" BHUNP?  Or should it be "before", or even "never together with"?

 

Or am I in fact violating the very laws of nature by trying to use both!!!!? (I have used both in the past without issue, but unfortunately I don't remember which load order I chose) 

 

thanks

 

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[Yinkle]

20 minutes ago, anjenthedog said:

So... I've been rebuilding my game since I had an unexpected update to 1.5.97/2.0.17 about a week ago. Last night, I reinstalled BHUNP to augment my modded, formerly UUNP and SevenBase followers (that is those who will  be my followers when I get back to them and sign them back up to my follower list, since I had to start a new game after my old ones became corrupted during the transition....)

 

Anyway, I use Vortex as my mod manager, and Vortex popped up with a load order contention for CBBE 3BBB vs BHUNP during deployment. (I supposed there's something similar in MO2/etc but ftr, I use Vortex. which one probably shouldn't matter in the context of this query)

 

My player is CBBE 3BBB. Some modded followers are BHUNP. 

 

So... question for all the modding masters...

 

Was I correct in choosing to load CBBE 3BBB "after" BHUNP?  Or should it be "before", or even "never together with"?

 

Or am I in fact violating the very laws of nature by trying to use both!!!!? (I have used both in the past without issue, but unfortunately I don't remember which load order I chose) 

 

thanks

 

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You should be able to use them in tandem if one is for specific npcs with unique bodies + textures and the other is for the player + all other npcs.

Load order should be irrelevant as they shouldn't overwrite each other in this case.

 

An issue you could come across in this setup is if you use in game morphs as they have diferent morph slider names. It might be a bit more work to set up physics too. The other issue would be with skimpy outfits not being cross compatible due to the uv map/texture diference on the base bodies.

[anjenthedog]

Thanks for the quick reply and confirmation. I ~kinda figured as much, but I wanted to make sure.

 

Yeah, I'm quite familiar with the issue of clothing/armor issues. it's a shame that clothing/armor mod authors don't use the target body type in their item names more often, so that they can be used according to the target type. Some may (I think), but unfortunately not most.  I installed a CBBE 3BBB lingerie mod recently. figured I'd install the BHUNP one as well, so I could fit to one of my followers and she could use a few of its assets... Nope... no go, you build one or the other in Bodyslide, and it becomes the only one available for acquisition and wearing, because the item names are identical.

 

It'd be easy enough (I think) to add a ""CBBE" or "BHUNP" or "UUNP" or whatever prefix to item names to make them unique. even something as simple as (groovy elven armor CBBE, groovy elven armor UUNP, groovy elven armor BHUNP, etc) , although maybe that would make the item names too long or something. idk...not an expert.  Or even better, although probably pipe dream stuff...you'd install all the types you expect to encounter, and when they're equipped to a given body type N, the correct type of armor/clothing for that body type is used automatically! <<< I digress

 

In fact, it's probably that experience with the lingerie mod that led me to asking this question in the first place, due to a lingering concern of type overwrite.

 

I just wish I was savvy on CCkit so I could tweak the names on BHUNP specific armor variants so they *could be used in tandem with my CBBE-3BBB ones. Oh well... A post for the Nexus "Mod requests" thread I suppose.

 

I'll keep that in mind about morphing, I think I saw some of that already with BOSSE when the "wet" (ie body gets wet from swimming or rain)  function is enabled.

 

TBH, physics has been easy-peasy-pie and the least of my issues. Getting the followers properly converted to BHUNP while retaining their original body textures was a bit trickier, but in the end is just some repetitive PaintDotNet copy-pastes and source resizing ops.

 

Thanks again for your reply and tips. 

 

Anyone else have things to offer on the subject? It's basically "answered", but the more the better.