SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 So I just installed CBBE 3BBB and I ran Bodyslide, batch built the body, and ran FNIS. But when I got in game the physics of the breasts are super wonky. I remember having the same issue when I first installed body physics a while ago but don't remember how I fixed it. When my character jumps, the breasts stretch out and then on the way back to the ground, they push inside of her torso. There's also something near her crotch that seems to stretch towards the ground as well. I have my load order down below. Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm ApachiiHair.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLabAroused.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Campfire.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm HentaiPregnancy.esm High Poly Head.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm SkyUI_SE.esp Obsidian Weathers.esp 3BBB.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp BDBrumaCreatures.esp VioLens SE.esp Brows.esp BVFE.esp dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp Unlimited Shouting.esp Metalsabers Beautiful Orcs of Skyrim.esp OrcFemaleAnimations.esp CBBE.esp DHuntress.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp EstrusChaurus.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp FNIS.esp FullBootForKKSA.esp Inigo.esp SexLab Beastess.esp ValkyrjaManor.esp MiasLair.esp LABikiniSSE.esp LADX_SSE.esp Sneak Tools.esp PaleMarsh.esp HentaiCreatures.esp HornyCreatures.esp Immersive Arousal.esp KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp KKSDrBWeightFix.esp MassMatchMakerSE.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SexLabTools.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp ZedUnlimitedWeaponEnchant.esp Dovabear.esp anyonefollows2.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp jwd-follower-f-nord-valeria-1-cbbe.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp = Craft Free - All DLC - Overhaul 1.4 =.esp EggFactory.esp KameHameHa.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Potion of Ultimate Leveling.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp AIO SE TATTOOS.esp Cloaks&Capes.esp Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets SSE.esp TW3Eyes.esp TW3Weaponry.esp DJGODMODERING.esp NoOverpenetration.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp SkyHUD.esp SL Deadly Drain.esp YOT - Apocalypse.esp 00FacialExpressions.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp BarbarianPaints.esp HVBodyPaints.esp MikanEyes All in one SE.esp opmfgconsole.esp Poser Hotkeys.esp Sakora's Make Over Kit for SKSE64.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp KSWigsSMP.esp Immersive Weapons.esp KKFur.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Unique Uniques.esp FNISSexyMove.esp EBM_UnlimitedPower.esp Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp YOT - Moonlight Tales Overhaul.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Alternate Start - Bruma.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 I attempted the Test Procedure and haven't found anything that's worked as of yet. Did find out that apparently collisions with it doesn't work either. Found that while my character moves, in idle animations and such, the breasts simply want to stay static and not move. Not sure if that's any helpful info in this situation however. While normally I have rather good patience with things like this, I absolutely hate having to turn off and turn mods back on again when it comes to modding. Starting to believe that I should just drop 3BBB and stick with CBPC.
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Not sure if you're using MO2 or vortex but if you use vortex check to make sure your deploy order is correct ( little green lightning bolt icon that at the end of each mods with conflicts ) now it's been awhile since I installed 3bbb and i went to look at my deploy order for you and it made me question if mine was correct because i have it loading after Xpmse but hey it's working as intended so I'm assuming I got it right lol. But try loading it after Xpmse and see if that fixes your issue or not. And I am talking about the deploy order of the mods not the load order of the plug ins just to make sure that is clear. Can't tell you how to check deploy order if you use MO2 because I have never used that manager but I'm sure some here who know that mod manager could tell you how.
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, sparral said: Not sure if you're using MO2 or vortex but if you use vortex check to make sure your deploy order is correct ( little green lightning bolt icon that at the end of each mods with conflicts ) now it's been awhile since I installed 3bbb and i went to look at my deploy order for you and it made me question if mine was correct because i have it loading after Xpmse but hey it's working as intended so I'm assuming I got it right lol. But try loading it after Xpmse and see if that fixes your issue or not. Can't tell you how to check deploy order if you use MO2 because I have never used that manager but I'm sure some here who know that mod manager could tell you how. Haven't tried that yet, nor have I checked that but thanks for the tip! And yeah, I use Vortex. As soon as it came out I switched from MO2... Never again will I use that manager, it was way too complex after using the NMM for so long.
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, SnekySneak said: Haven't tried that yet, nor have I checked that but thanks for the tip! And yeah, I use Vortex. As soon as it came out I switched from MO2... Never again will I use that manager, it was way too complex after using the NMM for so long. Also be sure to re run fnse after you make the change and vortex has finished deploying the change made.
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, sparral said: Also be sure to re run fnse after you make the change and vortex has finished deploying the change made. Did what you said, re-ran FNIS after moving it under XPMSE but the issue still occurs. I'm thinking that it might have something to do directly with the physics files of the mod but I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with it. I gave let it overwrite the other mods that it needed to but I'm still confused what about it is messing up. The only other physics mods I have are CBPC, CBP Physics and HDT-SMP which, as far as I remember, are all required.
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 @SnekySneak Can you upload a screen shot of your deploy order for 3bbb and XPMSE ( screen that pops up when you click the green lightning bolt next to each of these mods(. And feel like I'm asking the obvious here but when you built the body you made sure the build morphs box was ticked right?
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, sparral said: Can you upload a screen shot of your deploy order ( screen that pops up from clicking the green lightning bolt ). Also another question that's I feel is kind of already obvious but when you build the body did you make sure the build morphs box was ticked? Apologies but I think I messed up. When you say deploy order do you mean the load order? And I don't see a green lightning bolt anywhere on the manager, are you perhaps using a different version?
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 No not load order. And sorry but I typically end up finding I have to edit my posts for errors and typos after posting lol but right now its being stupid for me on the edit part and overwriting stuff so I have to retype my post entirely pretty much. You seem to be reading these before I see what needs to be corrected and then noticing the edits lol. But I will upload a screen shot of what I am talking about in a second.
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 Ah xD Alright, I'll wait for the pic then. And thanks again for the help!
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 If you have XP32 or 3BBB installed there should be a green lightning bolt as shown circled in red there from conflicts. Click on that for XP32 and 3BBB and screen shot the pop up pages for those to upload. Sorry if the wording of my posts were confusing. As for the deploy order bit click and hold on the circle icon and drag up or down your mod list until it is on the mod you wish to establish deploy order with and release your click on it to get a pop up that will say something like. "Blank" must load before "Blank" you can change the must load before bit to must load after. Hope that makes sense.
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 Ohhhhh, okay. I realized the issue. My Vortex had Dependecies filtered out on the mods page. I'll get you a picture soon
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Huh I am using a older version of 3BBB and I would seem it had since been updated to not conflict with XP32 anymore. So I guess I was incorrect in my thinking this sounded like a issue caused by incompatible skeletons... Maybe you are correct about it being a physics issues.
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 But I do notice you got CBPC and CBP you shouldn't even need to have CBP installed.
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 So if not the skeleton as I thought and if everything from CBP is being overwriten even if its not needed having it being overwriten means it shouldn't be causing any issue. So that leads me to have to ask what are probably stupid questions lol. So as shown in this screen shot when your built your body you made sure that box as shown circled was tick right? and made sure you built that body show circled. lol sorry for even asking such obvious questions but I can't think of any other reason for why breast are being deformed during movement or the added vagina/anus added with the 3BBB body would be stretching out like that.
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 22 minutes ago, sparral said: So if not the skeleton as I thought and if everything from CBP is being overwriten even if its not needed having it being overwriten means it shouldn't be causing any issue. So that leads me to have to ask what are probably stupid questions lol. So as shown in this screen shot when your built your body you made sure that box as shown circled was tick right? and made sure you built that body show circled. lol sorry for even asking such obvious questions but I can't think of any other reason for why breast are being deformed during movement or the added vagina/anus added with the 3BBB body would be stretching out like that. I have everything checked that you have circled. I'm not sure what exactly is causing the problem but I'm thinking it's something to do with it's physics files being broken or something of the sort. I also went and uninstalled CBP Physics to make sure it's not the issue but the problem persists.
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 It has been while since I installed that mod and I don't remember what the options in the fmod were. I do remember it giving SMP support option or full CBPC support. I chose the SMP version and was given some option for physics configs if I remember correctly. So not having seen SMP listed on your screen shots I'm assuming you went with full CBPC option. So did it give your options for different configs for physics? If so perhaps reinstall but picking a different config file to test that. It is also possible that it simply was a bad install it does happen sometimes if not always often and could have messed up the config file and maybe a simple reinstall could fix it. Also it might be something that is known about with the update so check 3BBB's support forum on its page and look for recent post mentioning the issue. Wish I could have helped you figure this out but having ran down the check list of things I could think of, if what I just mentioned here doesn't do it then I am at as big of a loss for what the issue could be as you are.
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 10 minutes ago, sparral said: It has been while since I installed that mod and I don't remember what the options in the fmod were. I do remember it giving SMP support option or full CBPC support. I chose the SMP version and was given some option for physics configs if I remember correctly. So not having seen SMP listed on your screen shots I'm assuming you went with full CBPC option. So did it give your options for different configs for physics? If so perhaps reinstall but picking a different config file to test that. It is also possible that it simply was a bad install it does happen sometimes if not always often and could have messed up the config file and maybe a simple reinstall could fix it. Also it might be something that is known about with the update so check 3BBB's support forum on its page and look for recent post mentioning the issue. Wish I could have helped you figure this out but having ran down the check list of things I could think of, if what I just mentioned here doesn't do it then I am at as big of a loss for what the issue could be as you are. Actually my first install of it was the SMP and CBPC. Then I tried the full CBPC and just now tried the SMP and CBPC (Lite). Still hasn't worked. There's one last thing that I want to try but if it doesn't work, I'm probably just going to stick with CBPC for the time being. I'll update if my idea works
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 @SnekySneak From the mod page Requirements XPMSSE 4.61 or higher (If 4.65 version, CBPC patch of XPMSSE is require) CBBE SE CBBE skin texture (Compatible with all) BodySlide&OutfitStudio SKSE CBPC CBBE 3BBB(Nexus) is not required, but would be thanks if could give us download and endorsements. XD You do have the appropriate version of XPMSE aka XP32 right? This also could cause the issue if you have any version of that before 4.61 and from the note at the end there if using XPMSE 4.65 it needs a patch for CBPC. As mentioned I haven't updated my mod list in a while and I know skyrim has updated at least once since the last time I updated my mod list. I forget if XPMSE is one of the mods that needs to be updated with skyrim or not but I'm running version 4.70 and there is a newer version listed on that mods page 4.71 so maybe it does update with skyrims updates?
SnekySneak Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, sparral said: @SnekySneak From the mod page Requirements XPMSSE 4.61 or higher (If 4.65 version, CBPC patch of XPMSSE is require) CBBE SE CBBE skin texture (Compatible with all) BodySlide&OutfitStudio SKSE CBPC CBBE 3BBB(Nexus) is not required, but would be thanks if could give us download and endorsements. XD You do have the appropriate version of XPMSE aka XP32 right? This also could cause the issue if you have any version of that before 4.61 and from the note at the end there if using XPMSE 4.65 it needs a patch for CBPC. I do have the most updated version of XPMSE, yes. Funnily enough I was trying to see if an older version of 3BBB would work but sadly it didn't. But for now, I have to go to bed and probably won't try to use it again for a little while. Thanks again for the help though!
sparral Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 No problem sorry I couldn't help you figure this out.
agiz19 Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 9:21 AM, Kokan said: 1. CBPC 2. HDT-SMP 3. SE 3BBB 4. XPMSSE exactly , also SOS SE between 2. and 3. if you want
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