Gunchap Red Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 So after learning a lot of new information in regards to my crash nearby riverwood, i've reached a discovery. The crash is happening not because of any timer or location, it's because i went close to wolves. I found this out by heading back to the same spot and noticing that there were some wolves nearby, so i watched as one of them approached my character from a spot safe from where i thought the crash was. Yep, it crashed. So i need help tracking down which mod may cause wolves to crash. Here is my laod order. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Falskaar.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm ImCh.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Campfire.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm RaceCompatibility.esm moonpath.esm daymoyl.esm Skykids.esm High Poly Head.esm OSA.esm EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp WetandCold.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp AOS.esp Spears.esp azarhair.esp Beards.esp crimeenchanced.esp nighteyetoggle.esp rrhair.esp rrhair2.esp rrhair3.esp rrhairargonian.esp rrhairkhajiit.esp UsefulDogs.esp [kijikohair_malepack].esp LovelyHairstylesCE.esp seranahair.esp SkyUI.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp FNIS.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp FISS.esp AMatterOfTime.esp FNISSexyMove.esp Brows.esp VioLens.esp Daedric Extra Armor.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp AchieveThat.esp TSC-Staves.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp KJ Tattoos 4K.esp TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp TheCoenaculiMALE.esp RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp RutahTattooPack.esp nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp Poser Hotkeys.esp HPObjects.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp Skysan_Icicle.esp FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp 3DNPC.esp iWil_UselessShopOverhaul.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp COT + TS + ELFX + AOS Patches.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp GCR Realestate Pack.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp KurooNekoPhotoStudio.esp GCR SK Outfits.esp GCR SK Followers.esp playablecreature_pack.esp YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp Undeath.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Remodeled Armor - Legendary.esp hearthfireextended.esp JobsofSkyrim.esp HASTE.esp truerpgmedic.esp dynamic fires.esp TrueStorms.esp TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp Burning Skies.esp CustomRaces.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuLE.esp Holidays.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp TownsAndCitiesEnhanced.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp yield.esp SMIM Patches.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp Cloaks.esp Botox.esp Botox_CharGen.esp OBIS Merged.esp Run For Your Lives.esp moonpath_questdata.esp NorthernCardinal.esp GCR Weapons And Armors For Builds.esp BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Frostfall.esp Signs_of_Skyrim.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp quest_pitfighter.esp TimingIsEverything.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp RidingDirty.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp Elemental Destruction.esp Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp Spears_Skill&PerkTree.esp DeadlyDragons.esp Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp Mortal Enemies.esp Illustrious HDT Cloaks.esp RWoS-Expansion.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp Vile Art of Necromancy.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp Snark.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp RND Patches.esp WhiterunInEnhanced.esp WorldEaterBeater.esp RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp TAVERiften.esp armored-horses.esp GrandMaster.esp daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp TAVESolitude.esp TAVEWindhelm.esp Skykids Addons And Patches.esp More to Say.esp Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp ESFCompanions.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Bells of Skyrim.esp throwingweapons.esp vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp Imaginator BETA.esp Dwemer Certified.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp AetherSuite.esp zzzSXP.esp Dance for Septims.esp LPBards.esp NB-Scars.esp SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp ShadowSpellPackage.esp MB_Cleric_v2.esp SplashofRain.esp NCLS merged.esp ModestyChainmailAndUndergarments.esp KaiSFemaleHHDT.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Wounds.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp Convenient Horses.esp Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp TKDodge.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp FacelightPlus.esp BarbarianPaints.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp hmkLockOn.esp 3PCO.esp YOT - Frostfall Module 3.0.esp YOT - Moonlight Tales.esp PerMa_USLEEP master patch.esp PrinceandPauper.esp ImCh - USLEEP patch.esp GoToBed-RealisticNeedsandDiseases-patch.esp GoToBed.esp BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp Field Medic.esp RaceMenuSKYAVX.esp UltimateCombat.esp DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp HelmetToggle2.02b.esp Character Behaviors Enhanced.esp P1FlyingRing.esp Critical Hit.esp UltimateCombatSekiro.esp _s23_FasterWeaponSwings.esp WardsFunctionalitiesExtendedSLE.esp Random Emotions.esp Males of Skyrim.esp LessIntrusiveHUD.esp GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp MeridiaRevoiced.esp mintylightningmod.esp HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp MajesticMountains.esp WondersofWeather.esp GomaPeroLand.esp Real Clouds.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp StrangeRunes.esp WardsFunctionalitiesExtendedSLE - Strange Runes Patch.esp Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp AFT Patches.esp 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp Bijin AIO.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp da_alternate_start_extension.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp ELFX - UselessShopOverhaul patch.esp PatchusMaximus.esp RSChildren.esp RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp RS Children Patches.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp
myuhinny Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 I would check anything that alters anything with creatures and the only ones I saw are UsefulDogs.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp and playablecreature_pack.esp I'm just going by the names of the .esp's. Also check and make sure their skeleton file is fine. You could try getting close to them but not close enough to attract them and open the console with the ~ key and type in TFC and hit enter and leave the console. Then you'll be able to move to them in camera like mode and open the console while right next to one and click one and see if there is any info listed there in the skyUI info like any .esp/.esm that they might be coming from and things like that.
Gunchap Red Posted February 25, 2020 Author Posted February 25, 2020 10 hours ago, myuhinny said: I would check anything that alters anything with creatures and the only ones I saw are UsefulDogs.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp and playablecreature_pack.esp I'm just going by the names of the .esp's. Also check and make sure their skeleton file is fine. You could try getting close to them but not close enough to attract them and open the console with the ~ key and type in TFC and hit enter and leave the console. Then you'll be able to move to them in camera like mode and open the console while right next to one and click one and see if there is any info listed there in the skyUI info like any .esp/.esm that they might be coming from and things like that. Useful Dogs and playable creatures are workshop mods btw. Also, i'll give it a shot.
Gunchap Red Posted February 25, 2020 Author Posted February 25, 2020 11 hours ago, myuhinny said: I would check anything that alters anything with creatures and the only ones I saw are UsefulDogs.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp and playablecreature_pack.esp I'm just going by the names of the .esp's. Also check and make sure their skeleton file is fine. You could try getting close to them but not close enough to attract them and open the console with the ~ key and type in TFC and hit enter and leave the console. Then you'll be able to move to them in camera like mode and open the console while right next to one and click one and see if there is any info listed there in the skyUI info like any .esp/.esm that they might be coming from and things like that. Well, that didn't dig up a whole lot. Most that I found out was that they came from the base game's ESM file and were last changed by Patchus Maximus.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 try this mod, get the fox version. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/94534?tab=description
Grey Cloud Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Just out of curiosity, how many plug-ins is that?
myuhinny Posted February 25, 2020 Posted February 25, 2020 Check and see if patchus maximus is the culprit then. You can also use TES5edit to check and see everything that is altering a file in a .esm/.esp.
Gunchap Red Posted February 27, 2020 Author Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 12:01 PM, myuhinny said: Check and see if patchus maximus is the culprit then. You can also use TES5edit to check and see everything that is altering a file in a .esm/.esp. Also, apparently, it's not just wolves. I walked into areas that had no wolves but other animals. I don't know why, but some of Skyrim's Wildlife seem to crash the game.
myuhinny Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Does it happen in a new game? If not then it might be your save file. If it's yes then I would start removing mods go into game test if it's gone then test by adding some mods back 2 at a time till you crash again and then look at those ones and you'll have your culprit. If it's not gone go out and remove some more and test again and keep doing it till the crash is gone.
Gunchap Red Posted February 27, 2020 Author Posted February 27, 2020 6 hours ago, myuhinny said: Does it happen in a new game? If not then it might be your save file. If it's yes then I would start removing mods go into game test if it's gone then test by adding some mods back 2 at a time till you crash again and then look at those ones and you'll have your culprit. If it's not gone go out and remove some more and test again and keep doing it till the crash is gone. Yes, and any clue where to start?
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted February 27, 2020 Posted February 27, 2020 I would start with suggested mod for wolves and foxes, it's real easy to install. Chances are you have other problems but suggested mod should be first thing you do.
Gunchap Red Posted February 28, 2020 Author Posted February 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Heroine of the Night said: I would start with suggested mod for wolves and foxes, it's real easy to install. Chances are you have other problems but suggested mod should be first thing you do. I can't afford to use any more .esp files lest i want to break the game entirely.
Gunchap Red Posted February 28, 2020 Author Posted February 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Heroine of the Night said: I would start with suggested mod for wolves and foxes, it's real easy to install. Chances are you have other problems but suggested mod should be first thing you do. Also, i started using True Wolves Of Skyrim to see if it could provide some form of a fix, does not work, and it replaces the meshes of the wolves as well.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted February 28, 2020 Posted February 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Gunchap Red said: Also, i started using True Wolves Of Skyrim to see if it could provide some form of a fix, does not work, and it replaces the meshes of the wolves as well. Good luck.
Gunchap Red Posted February 29, 2020 Author Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 6:42 AM, Heroine of the Night said: Good luck. Didn't work
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Gunchap Red said: Didn't work Shitz! Good mod, for the time being I would keep it in. Looking at your load order, you got some big stuffs. LO definitely looked good at bottom,with bashed patch. Guessing you got enb/boost. Crashfixes and or memory fix. I want to think its a mesh. If your in game and you tmm 1 (toggle map markers) can you bounce around without crashes?
Gunchap Red Posted February 29, 2020 Author Posted February 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, Heroine of the Night said: Shitz! Good mod, for the time being I would keep it in. Looking at your load order, you got some big stuffs. LO definitely looked good at bottom,with bashed patch. Guessing you got enb/boost. Crashfixes and or memory fix. I want to think its a mesh. If your in game and you tmm 1 (toggle map markers) can you bounce around without crashes? All that is true, and i do know it's not SIC, and wolf replacers, or OBIS so far. And I'll give it a shot.
donttouchmethere Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 4:30 AM, Gunchap Red said: UsefulDogs.esp Fishy, would be my first guess On 2/25/2020 at 4:30 AM, Gunchap Red said: Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp There is a unofficial patch for it out there Skyrim Immersive Creatures Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Unoffical Patch Skyrim Immersive Creature Stormcloak Wolfes Faction Fix No more Stormcloak Wolfes that attack you for no reason and create a clusterfuck SIC Spawn Fix Some Riekling Riders refused to spawn. No more! SUPER FISHY: dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp "Do not merge or bash patch the plugins. Textures will break!!!" Check if you bashed it or move it below bashed patch Or remove it for SIC Also: On 2/25/2020 at 4:30 AM, Gunchap Red said: ELFX - Weathers.esp "Climates of Tamriel is not compatible with other mods that implement similar features." Don't forget to check your reddit post: Girl_of_the_Nova 6 points · 4 days ago There are a lot of things I notice right off the bat are a problem. Wet and Cold Ashes is an old and out dated plugin as it was merge with the 2.0 update of Wet and Cold so you should update that. Undeath is known to be buggy. You also have Climates of Tamriel and elfx weathers installed, pick one as they are both weather mods and affect the same thing. As far as I can tell you don't have the unofficial immersive creatures patch, so grab that. Lastly, you are right up against the 255 plugin limit, so it would be best to trim some mods. If you aren't already, make sure you have all the skse fix mods, like {crash fixes} and run {Bethini} to optimize your ini files. level 2 modlinkbot 1 point · 4 days ago Search KeySkyrim LE Nexus crash fixesCrash fixes BethiniBethINI Listen to that girl =D
Grey Cloud Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 On 2/25/2020 at 4:15 PM, Grey Cloud said: Just out of curiosity, how many plug-ins is that?
Gunchap Red Posted February 29, 2020 Author Posted February 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Around 254
Gunchap Red Posted February 29, 2020 Author Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: Fishy, would be my first guess There is a unofficial patch for it out there Skyrim Immersive Creatures Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Unoffical Patch Skyrim Immersive Creature Stormcloak Wolfes Faction Fix No more Stormcloak Wolfes that attack you for no reason and create a clusterfuck SIC Spawn Fix Some Riekling Riders refused to spawn. No more! SUPER FISHY: dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp "Do not merge or bash patch the plugins. Textures will break!!!" Check if you bashed it or move it below bashed patch Or remove it for SIC Also: "Climates of Tamriel is not compatible with other mods that implement similar features." Don't forget to check your reddit post: Girl_of_the_Nova 6 points · 4 days ago There are a lot of things I notice right off the bat are a problem. Wet and Cold Ashes is an old and out dated plugin as it was merge with the 2.0 update of Wet and Cold so you should update that. Undeath is known to be buggy. You also have Climates of Tamriel and elfx weathers installed, pick one as they are both weather mods and affect the same thing. As far as I can tell you don't have the unofficial immersive creatures patch, so grab that. Lastly, you are right up against the 255 plugin limit, so it would be best to trim some mods. If you aren't already, make sure you have all the skse fix mods, like {crash fixes} and run {Bethini} to optimize your ini files. level 2 modlinkbot 1 point · 4 days ago Search KeySkyrim LE Nexus crash fixesCrash fixes BethiniBethINI Listen to that girl =D 1: I have the SIC unofficial patch. 2: I will check to see if that plugin got put into my bashed patch. 3: I believe i use a patch for that. And I have gotten rid of W&C Ashes, but i am hesitant to get rid of Undeath, as it is an almost essential mod for one of my builds and others got it to work. Edi: The mentioned SIC plugin was not added to the bashed patch.
donttouchmethere Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gunchap Red said: as it is an almost essential mod for one of my builds and others got it to work. that may be, but you will never find out with that LO, because there are so many possible reasons why it will CTD, even after you solved the wolf issue. Starting to grab the usual skyrim stability fixes is a good start, especially if you have a Setup like that. Also get a save game cleaner/fallrim tools ready with Burning Skies installed.
Grey Cloud Posted February 29, 2020 Posted February 29, 2020 32 minutes ago, Gunchap Red said: Around 254 I would make it exactly 253 or less. 30 minutes ago, Gunchap Red said: but i am hesitant to get rid of Undeath Didn't myst42 release a working version of this mod a week or so ago? I meant to download it but forgot and now can't find it.
Gunchap Red Posted March 1, 2020 Author Posted March 1, 2020 4 hours ago, donttouchmethere said: that may be, but you will never find out with that LO, because there are so many possible reasons why it will CTD, even after you solved the wolf issue. Starting to grab the usual skyrim stability fixes is a good start, especially if you have a Setup like that. Also get a save game cleaner/fallrim tools ready with Burning Skies installed. Update: Disabling undeath didn't make the crash completely go away, but i am able to get closer. Might see if the expansion will help with that.
donttouchmethere Posted March 1, 2020 Posted March 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gunchap Red said: didn't make the crash completely go away what does that even mean? You don't crash near wolves anymore but somewhere else? you mean this: This mod adds aspects from the "Undeath" lichdom mod into the phenomenal player home "Sjel Blad Castle"? why would that help? You lost me there ^^ If your game gets more stable the less mods you have installed you might want to try the skyrim stability fixes https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/10715-2020-skyrim-le-stability-guide/
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