Skrim72 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 First off, I want to thank the devs and the community for all the excellent work on these mods, and the instructions on setting everything up. I recently got back into Skyrim and was able to get everything working on the first try… mostly. 2 small issues I can’t find the fix for. First, SexLab seems to have it’s boy’s and girls backwards. My character is clearly a boy, big harry chest, and loincloth (more on that later). SexLab animation settings reports “Player Gender: Male”, however whenever I use my handy-dandy debug spell to test animations, SexLab clearly has the gender rolls reversed. The female don’s her strap-on every time and the animations make it clear the genders are reversed. Hilarious as it is to see my burly guy riding a girl ½ his size in standing coitus, I’m clearly overlooking a setting to fix this. Secondly, no one is actually getting neikkid before getting busy. Each animation I tested, worked fine, however the female would use her strap-on, and both characters kept their underwear/loin cloth on. Let’s be honest, that’s gotta chafe! While I’ve read dozens of “how-to” threads, I don’t recall any of them saying we needed a nude-bodies mod as seen in Sims forums. I assumed this was handled by the SexLab framework, I even checked “use nude suit”, but instead of nude, they were invisible. I’m sure there’s an “Emperors New Clothes” joke in that one. The female I was testing this on, even put additional underwear on for each of the animations. Which is kinda the polar opposite of what I was hoping for. Technical stuff: All mods are managed with MO2.2.1 SSE SexLab in-game shows all green, save for animals, which isn't installed. Attached is the PapyrusUtilDev log file per “sticky” request. Thanks in advance for any help. PapyrusUtilDev.log
Mez558 Posted January 28, 2020 Posted January 28, 2020 Didn't read your logs, life is too short and I don't think this is a bug. I don't have SE so I've not seen the settings for SL1.63 but there is a setting that allows you to define your gender, that might be the issue? Your Mod list would be more use (and a quicker read) On the underwear, that is attached to either vanilla player models (as I suspect is the case here) or to Body Meshes created with the NeverNude option selected. Don't think SL comes with the "nude suits" (could be wrong) and surprised that option comes with SL1.63. You want a Male and Female body replacer look for Bodyslide and body type preset (UUNP or CBBE, personal choice. I won't tell you one is better than the other but UUNP is meant to have more Poly's) for the female one and you can create your body with this or use an existing preset. To complicate this further, there is now BHUNP and 3BBB which are updated versions of the previous mentioned. Look for SOS (Schlongs of Skyrim) for the Male one. There is also SAM's (Shape Atlas for Men) which has more body shapes and looks better, that can be found on Vectorplexus' page but I would stick with SOS to start with.
Skrim72 Posted January 28, 2020 Author Posted January 28, 2020 Thanks for your reply, The mod/plugin list is on the top and center of the attached log file, but I’ll CCP it into the body of this message below for even more convince. I’m new here, so was just following the suggestion of a few forum stickies to include the file. Like I said in my question “SexLab animation settings reports “Player Gender: Male”, however I’ll certainly check again. The newest CCBE is installed, shown by the logfile, and the mod list which I’ll copy below. I will check into UUNP, this time to check if that might be better. (CBBE is what I used last time, so I simply used the updated version this time.) You do bring up an excellent point about body slide; while I have the mod running, I never went in and ran it independently. Is body slide like FNIS where I have to run it post-install to get it to work? My memory’s a bit fuzzy on that detail. Thanks. I’ll certainly take some time this evening and tinker in the Bodyslide mod for additional settings. Thanks again for your suggestions, I’ll dig deeper into those tonight. Current plugin list as requested… “Loading plugin list: (0 -> 0) Skyrim.esm (1 -> 1) Update.esm (2 -> 2) Dawnguard.esm (3 -> 3) HearthFires.esm (4 -> 4) Dragonborn.esm (5 -> ? PubicMeshColorRE.esm (6 -> 5) SexLab.esm (7 -> 6) SexLabAroused.esm (8 -> 7) ZaZAnimationPack.esm (9 -> 9) TeenageFemaleVoice.esm (10 -> 10) SexLab Attraction.esm (11 -> 11) SkyUI_SE.esp (12 -> 12) FNIS.esp (13 -> 13) CBBE.esp (14 -> 14) SexLab_Dialogues.esp (15 -> 15) ReadingImprovesSpeech.esp (16 -> 16) CL's Rapier.esp (17 -> 17) SassyGirls.esp (18 -> 18) HOBWillow.esp (19 -> 19) TrissMerigoldW3.esp (20 -> 20) Overknee_Ophelia.esp (21 -> 21) Clara.esp (22 -> 22) Follower_Motoyan.esp
Mez558 Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 17 hours ago, Skrim72 said: Thanks for your reply, The mod/plugin list is on the top and center of the attached log file, but I’ll CCP it into the body of this message below for even more convince. I’m new here, so was just following the suggestion of a few forum stickies to include the file. Like I said in my question “SexLab animation settings reports “Player Gender: Male”, however I’ll certainly check again. The newest CCBE is installed, shown by the logfile, and the mod list which I’ll copy below. I will check into UUNP, this time to check if that might be better. (CBBE is what I used last time, so I simply used the updated version this time.) You do bring up an excellent point about body slide; while I have the mod running, I never went in and ran it independently. Is body slide like FNIS where I have to run it post-install to get it to work? My memory’s a bit fuzzy on that detail. Thanks. I’ll certainly take some time this evening and tinker in the Bodyslide mod for additional settings. Thanks again for your suggestions, I’ll dig deeper into those tonight. Well if you have installed CBBE then any female character (be it PC or NPC) should be using that body. As I said, disable the Nude Suit option in SL. If you open console, target a female NPC and use the unequipall command then you should see them fully naked. If they're still wearing really ugly underwear then CBBE hasn't installed correctly and if they are wearing what looks like a modern 2 piece then you have the Nevernude option of CBBE installed. Bodyslide just enables you to create custom body proportions, if you're happy with the caricature like proportions of CBBE then there's no reason to use it right now but I suspect you will want to when you start adding custom clothing/armour. You will still need a male body replacer.
greenmango12 Posted January 29, 2020 Posted January 29, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 7:54 PM, Skrim72 said: 2 small issues I can’t find the fix for. First, SexLab seems to have it’s boy’s and girls backwards. My character is clearly a boy, big harry chest, and loincloth (more on that later). SexLab animation settings reports “Player Gender: Male”, however whenever I use my handy-dandy debug spell to test animations, SexLab clearly has the gender rolls reversed. The female don’s her strap-on every time and the animations make it clear the genders are reversed. Hilarious as it is to see my burly guy riding a girl ½ his size in standing coitus, I’m clearly overlooking a setting to fix this. PapyrusUtilDev.log 3.08 kB · 4 downloads hm,, I think your mod list is not so huge,, it is good to solve issues. then if you really hope to enjoy sexanimation with skyrim se, , I recommend, untill try sexlab animations, or zaz animation etc,, and tweak each MCM options, you need to make male and female body witch work for sexlabanimation well. 1. re-install CBBE SE, I almost suppose you choose "non nude" option, when install CBBE body without intention. so when femle take of clothes, most of female keep underwear. if for sexlab user,, it can be joke , you must choose female body with nude option , then they will wear cloth to hide body only when they need it. 2 you need nude body for your male pc too. . though there is nude suit, witch sexlab frame work will offer, with sexaniamtion, , but I have never used it,, or I do not remember,, if I used it before. just pick up SOS SE.. then get gen for your pc. 3 to use SOS (for male) or CBBE SE mesh, bascially you need better skelton. and it is XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE Though I do not know if there is heavy modder who never use XPMSSE but like sexlab animations, most of us can not live without the skelton. after all, you may need to install XPMSSE = skelton for most of skyrim actors (include creature too) 4 I strongly recommend, install racemenu too.. because XPMSE show more compatiblity with racemenu. so you can easy adjust your body in racemenu with SOS. 5 after confirm your nude body have good SOS mesh, and when you change character as female, without eqipment, you can see nude. try sexlab animations again. without using sexlab nudesuit. with keep your “Player Gender" , I think most of animation should work as you expected. if you have problem to install, racemenu or SOS or XPMSE etc,, ask again.
Skrim72 Posted January 29, 2020 Author Posted January 29, 2020 It sounds like my CBBE install is the culprit. I clearly need to get that working in my "minimalist" install before going any further. You both make excellent points, I don't appear to have male bodies installed. The SexLab "nude suit" has been off the entire time, and when I did turn it on to test it, anywhere one would expect to see nude textures was transparent. Seems to me an excellent confirmation I got something wrong with CBBE, if those textures aren't there. Thanks again for helping, I know where to focus my attention. I'll update any progress.
greenmango12 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Skrim72 said: It sounds like my CBBE install is the culprit. I clearly need to get that working in my "minimalist" install before going any further. You both make excellent points, I don't appear to have male bodies installed. The SexLab "nude suit" has been off the entire time, and when I did turn it on to test it, anywhere one would expect to see nude textures was transparent. Seems to me an excellent confirmation I got something wrong with CBBE, if those textures aren't there. Thanks again for helping, I know where to focus my attention. I'll update any progress. When I test re-install (I seldom re-install CBBE SE, but use BS to generate new body) CBBE SE, I see, "Underwear option" 's discription and photo not much to get "Nude" with MO2 (I do not know if it only problem about MO2 Fomod , and not check real text yet,,) But you select "None" about underwear, so female can be Nude or they keep under wear (which stick to body mesh for nude). And even though you install CBBE SE body for female correctly,, it not means all your follower use the body. Unfortunately, I do not know about your follower mods in your mods list,, but if they use custom body. it use the modder packaged body.nif, so it not use your installed body (about this case, CBBE SE default nude body). Of course, most of case you can manually exchange follower body, with your choosen body, but it change how modder made their follower. so I recommend, at first test with normal NPC.. (vanila which should use default female body, which you installed) , not choose gogeous follower mod NPC to test sexanimation. After you confrim, sexlab animation work with vanila NPC, (you can see nude, then they act as female, not wear strap penis ^^;) , go foward. (exchange follower body etc,, but need ot learn more) and enjoy sex with your fvarorite partner. These things are about female body (nude), but to get male body (for your pc), you must pick up SOS SE. but not install SOS skelton, ( you will find option in SOS install). next install XPMSSE skelton, .'with choose option,(You installed SOS) And you can install Body slider (out-fit stuido) to generate ideal body shape,, and most of mod user install BS ,after all, but the time when install BS (and OS) depend on you. so if you hope to test sexlab animation first,, you just test it without BS(body-slider), but use default CBBE SE offered shape nude body, with SOS male, then go foward . (ofcourse,, it is ok, first install BS, then generate your favorite body for female.,, but strongly recommend carefully read, tutroialls about BS usage,, then you can safety use BS generated meshes, as you like. ) I almost pray as PC mail, so If I discribe mod list for start and test sexlab. 1. CBBE SE (or your choose body for default female) 2. SOS SE (Full) (it offer male textures too.. I do not care much about my PC male textures ^^; if it not broken) 3. XPMSE 4, Racemenu SE ========================= 5. Body slide and Out fit Stuido. (if you hope to make body as you like, try it, later) ========================= and to test SEX animation, you may better install "Sexlab muchmaker" it is easy to check sexlab animations. https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/163-sexlab-matchmaker-updated-09172014/ I do not remeber, which version I isntalled, but SSE conversion Tracking link said, it work as it is for SE too. (of course there is sexlab tools etc ,, so you can pick them as you need later)
Skrim72 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 I've been using the SexLab Debug Spell to test the animations. That and the ZAZ animation tester in-game mod configuration. Both are treating my male as female in the animations. I'm currently searching the in-game Mod Configuration for SexLab: Sex Journal - Sexuality - Hetrosexual Animation Settings - Player gender - Male SexLab Attraction "Use SexLab Default” – ON It appears to me, it should be calling my male a male, however it's still playing all animations as though my male is female. I just downloaded/installed "MatchMaker" per-your suggestion. I'll go in game and test it out now. I've included a screenie of my MO2 for reference of my load order. Thanks again for your help.
greenmango12 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Though I may still recommend, at least first install SOS and XPMSE, for male body,,(so I can show you my sexlab setting withotu use sexlab nude suit) when I see your MO2 image,, do you run FNIS for modders already ,and generate FNIS patch? There are many guide or tutoriall run FNIS for users, with MO2, they may slightly differ. basically I keep all FNIS generated file as separate mods. and it should locate Mo2 left pane, as last position (or most lower postion), then force it overwrite all other mods. but with your SS, I can not see your FNIS patch mods for your current proflie. then do you check your sexual stats sexuality option? I think if it may swap animation gender with your sexuality . (though I do not know, if actually work so,, or it just report current status of your sex stats) Ok I now understand you set it already,, and I think it is right setting for you. then do not you show your debug console? (because you seems already sexlab debug/development ON in mcm I suppose) ------------ hahaha!!! I see, I think the sexlab debug spell seems treat ,self = female , and target = male role because now I see my cute follower try to rape me,, and i see same role , with another animations too. confirm I use self for PC(male) and target for NPC female. (animations are Funny biz, so I seldom saw, follower (female) rape me ^^; in my game prays, with default setting)
greenmango12 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 Yes all animation change role so female follower pray as agressor (male) , then PC wil be as victim . with sexlab debug spell (for PC male player ) tough I do not know other by-sexual animation , how it work . then to test sexlab animations, along to your role, recommend use sexlab tools. then set reciever as NPC (female), set actor as PC (male), then start animation. it may took times to be used tool function,, but at least it work along to your select gender . because I afraid if machmaker show same issue..
Skrim72 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, greenmango12 said: Though I may still recommend, at least first install SOS and XPMSE, for male body,,(so I can show you my sexlab setting withotu use sexlab nude suit) when I see your MO2 image,, do you run FNIS for modders already ,and generate FNIS patch? There are many guide or tutoriall run FNIS for users, with MO2, they may slightly differ. basically I keep all FNIS generated file as separate mods. and it should locate Mo2 left pane, as last position (or most lower postion), then force it overwrite all other mods. but with your SS, I can not see your FNIS patch mods for your current proflie. then do you check your sexual stats sexuality option? I think if it may swap animation gender with your sexuality . (though I do not know, if actually work so,, or it just report current status of your sex stats) Ok I now understand you set it already,, and I think it is right setting for you. then do not you show your debug console? (because you seems already sexlab debug/development ON in mcm I suppose) ------------ hahaha!!! I see, I think the sexlab debug spell seems treat ,self = female , and target = male role because now I see my cute follower try to rape me,, and i see same role , with another animations too. confirm I use self for PC(male) and target for NPC female. (animations are Funny biz, so I seldom saw, follower (female) rape me ^^; in my game prays, with default setting) I've been using FNIS for users, not modders. my generated FNIS patch is "Post FNIS run" which I have right below SkyUI. I've never used the "nudesuit" the first time I was having problems was from using an old CBBE, once I got that ubdated, and installed SOS, my only problem was reversed genders. When I load a new game, the console does load all the SexLab stuff, I watched it happen last time with the console open. Also, I noticed on my last test play, there is a "Puppetmaster" setting (not entirely sure what that does) in the SexLab configuration settings. The sexual preference is stuck on male, I tried to change it several times. The default is supposedly "Let SexLab decide" (minor paraphrase, I just closed the game after a few CTD's which I must assume is from the new MatchMaker I just added. Hehehehe from this animation testing I've seen a few hillarious animations, my favorite so far was big burly me straddle a thin girl for standing sex.
Skrim72 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Posted January 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, greenmango12 said: Yes all animation change role so female follower pray as agressor (male) , then PC wil be as victim . with sexlab debug spell (for PC male player ) tough I do not know other by-sexual animation , how it work . then to test sexlab animations, along to your role, recommend use sexlab tools. then set reciever as NPC (female), set actor as PC (male), then start animation. it may took times to be used tool function,, but at least it work along to your select gender . because I afraid if machmaker show same issue.. Yep!!! That's exactly what I've been seeing. Complete with auto-strap-on! I'll down load that tool now, and give it a try. Thanks! Also, If I'm understanding you right, starting animations through conversation, this shouldn't be a problem, which would be great. Just habit for me to get all the fundamentals working before I add more. Thanks again for your help with this.
greenmango12 Posted January 30, 2020 Posted January 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Skrim72 said: Yep!!! That's exactly what I've been seeing. Complete with auto-strap-on! I'll down load that tool now, and give it a try. Thanks! Also, If I'm understanding you right, starting animations through conversation, this shouldn't be a problem, which would be great. Just habit for me to get all the fundamentals working before I add more. Thanks again for your help with this. Yes though there seems a few case, animation swap , but it is designed by animation author,, but most of sexlab mods (at least I know), manage them without problem.. and some mods may offer option to check gender (eg you hope to pray as female etc) but as default, it should keep sexlab gender which you decide I think. actually when I pray same animation with use another mod, (dialogue to trigger animation ) it never happen. eg,, Follow me for sex,, may work as you expected. (though there still be a little problem about SE converted version,, so I can not say or recommend which mod is good for your purpose,, but I install defeat, sexlab tools, follow me for sex.. and use them.. it work as expected (for male PC player, and role as mail or agressive) (some mod may effect custom follower dialogue, ,AI packages etc,, so if you use those mod , may better devide save data,, untill try with your favorite followers, sometimes they lost their original dialogue of effect their package, I think.
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