Vuulgar Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 First time I have had this one, I was attacked by a group of raiders, 5 in total. I killed one and was looking for the other when someone being hitting my PC. Turns out 3 of the remaining 4 were invisible. As I moved around they faded in and out still mostly transparent but if I stood still they would vanish. Oddly the other raider was normal. Anyone have any info on this type of bug?
VonHelton Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Vuulgar said: First time I have had this one, I was attacked by a group of raiders, 5 in total. I killed one and was looking for the other when someone being hitting my PC. Turns out 3 of the remaining 4 were invisible. As I moved around they faded in and out still mostly transparent but if I stood still they would vanish. Oddly the other raider was normal. Anyone have any info on this type of bug? Completely invisible, or just using those stealth boxes?
Vuulgar Posted January 18, 2020 Author Posted January 18, 2020 9 hours ago, VonHelton said: Completely invisible, or just using those stealth boxes? Not stealth boys, they fade in and out, if I move around I can see them as a ghost like image in color, not the stealth boy predator style. Sometimes they even become solid for a brief moment. If I restart it appears to not happen but eventually I start seeing enemies fading in and out. I added a couple weapon mods but neither is on the level lists, besides that my mod list is the same set up I have been using for a while. This is a new one for me and I havent found much info when searching.
VonHelton Posted January 18, 2020 Posted January 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Vuulgar said: Not stealth boys, they fade in and out, if I move around I can see them as a ghost like image in color, not the stealth boy predator style. Sometimes they even become solid for a brief moment. If I restart it appears to not happen but eventually I start seeing enemies fading in and out. I added a couple weapon mods but neither is on the level lists, besides that my mod list is the same set up I have been using for a while. This is a new one for me and I havent found much info when searching. Yup, I'll get some of my followers be like that. Mine tend to flicker alot. I always thought it was having too many followers at a time, but it may be something else.
Vuulgar Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 7 hours ago, VonHelton said: Yup, I'll get some of my followers be like that. Mine tend to flicker alot. I always thought it was having too many followers at a time, but it may be something else. New experience, it may be followers also but I usually dont have followers. Modding Fallout 4 can be a challenge....
VonHelton Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 28 minutes ago, Vuulgar said: New experience, it may be followers also but I usually dont have followers. Modding Fallout 4 can be a challenge.... Indeed!
Benjou1 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 46 minutes ago, Vuulgar said: New experience, it may be followers also but I usually dont have followers. Modding Fallout 4 can be a challenge.... Maybe it is because of the armors/clothing. I experienced that with poison against creatures , the reason was the outfits/armors my followers were wearing had "full precision meshes" in bodyslide
D_ManXX2 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 yes i have seen this too also with the gunners sometmes but after they are killed they return back to normal. but lately when i see dead body they also have their body missing like say the miniteman female i only see her head and hands but all else is gone. but when you take of her clothes the body itself is back. its like an engine bug that forgets what its suppose to render. that is why it is missing some stuff from loading.
VonHelton Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 3 hours ago, D_ManXX2 said: yes i have seen this too also with the gunners sometmes but after they are killed they return back to normal. but lately when i see dead body they also have their body missing like say the miniteman female i only see her head and hands but all else is gone. but when you take of her clothes the body itself is back. its like an engine bug that forgets what its suppose to render. that is why it is missing some stuff from loading. I'm experiencing this EXACT SAME THING, but no idea how to fix it. Decreasing the number of followers doesn't help.
VonHelton Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Benjou1 said: Maybe it is because of the armors/clothing. I experienced that with poison against creatures , the reason was the outfits/armors my followers were wearing had "full precision meshes" in bodyslide So how do I fix that?
Vuulgar Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 3 hours ago, D_ManXX2 said: yes i have seen this too also with the gunners sometmes but after they are killed they return back to normal. but lately when i see dead body they also have their body missing like say the miniteman female i only see her head and hands but all else is gone. but when you take of her clothes the body itself is back. its like an engine bug that forgets what its suppose to render. that is why it is missing some stuff from loading. Yup, I have noticed an invisible body-visible head corpse occasionally also. I also have occasions where grass or even buildings dont render for a number of seconds although this is usually pretty rare. That seems to happen at the outdoor "transition" areas, you can see a clear line where the grass is and isnt drawn. I have tried playing around with the mipmap settings in prefs ini but I dont see that it has helped.
Benjou1 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, VonHelton said: So how do I fix that? Open Outfit studio, load the armor/clothing/project, then on the right panel under "Meshes" right clic on the element you want to edit and select "properties". A window named "shaped" properties" is now open, go to the "Goemetry" tab and uncheck the full precision if it is checked. After that save the project/nif file. I just know that every "EasyGirl" outfits by humanature66 are full precision meshes, for the rest i don't know, you will have to see for youself
D_ManXX2 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 it could be more severe like memory leak still a thing with fallout 4 this is a very old engine so allot of bugs are present who can never be fixed since they are hardcoded. but this invsible bug dont think it is companions related just the engine crapping out when it needs to render allot at the same time. Also this part is also happening in fallout 76 so go figures.. But the fade in and out of npc are really weird fenominan. it was pretty funny seeing those videos on youtube of users complaining about the game fallout 76 rendering is total crap it looks like the problems is even more severe everytime bethesda releases a new game under the same engine with all the bugs still present even stuff from fallout 4 still present in fallout 76 they are just plain lazy.
D_ManXX2 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, VonHelton said: I'm experiencing this EXACT SAME THING, but no idea how to fix it. Decreasing the number of followers doesn't help. quicksave and load seem to make those body render correctly but having to this part everytime gets troublesome since i dont like using quicksave at all also to prevent quicksave bug and broken game if you keep using that part. also if you do quicksave their is higher chance you will get the black/brown face bug on your player character. so i try to avoid that part like a plague.
VonHelton Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 20 hours ago, D_ManXX2 said: quicksave and load seem to make those body render correctly but having to this part everytime gets troublesome since i dont like using quicksave at all also to prevent quicksave bug and broken game if you keep using that part. also if you do quicksave their is higher chance you will get the black/brown face bug on your player character. so i try to avoid that part like a plague. The "flickering followers" (say THAT five times fast! LOL) bugg is unaffected by saving & loading, it seems.
VonHelton Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 22 hours ago, Benjou1 said: Open Outfit studio, load the armor/clothing/project, then on the right panel under "Meshes" right clic on the element you want to edit and select "properties". A window named "shaped" properties" is now open, go to the "Goemetry" tab and uncheck the full precision if it is checked. After that save the project/nif file. I just know that every "EasyGirl" outfits by humanature66 are full precision meshes, for the rest i don't know, you will have to see for youself I'll give this a shot & see what happens! Fingers crossed!
yidus1 Posted August 15, 2020 Posted August 15, 2020 I found it to be Easygirl stuff, I removed them from both Piper and Ivy and they stopped fading in and out,, I will have to go through the process above I think.
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