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Alright, so it's been like 2 years and I'm dying to get into Skyrim again! I Thought I'd start with SSE and try to go with a low level mod list as to not cause too many issues.

 

Playing on low settings with a powerful rig. In total less then 100 mods! I'm really cutting back!! 

 

But again crash crash crash! I have used Loot, I have cleaned all my mods and dlc, I have tried to avoid anything that are reported to be "unstable" I have looked at successful load orders and tried to replicate it. Ran bodyslide, Fnis, everything is as up to date as I can get it. 

 

Using Vortex. Crashes occur when near cities and or packs of npc's. I'm dying to finishslaverun, and the two Sisterhood quest mods. Any help would be great! (Moved XPMSE to late loader as a suggestion from another thread.)

 

 *Edit, Reworked list. New new list. Several errors fixed that loot did not catch. 

 

    0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
  7  7     ApachiiHair.esm
  8  8     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
  9  9     Amputator.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     SexLab.esm
 12  c     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 13  d     FISS.esp
 14  e     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 15  f     SexLabAroused.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 17 11     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 18 12     SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
 19 13     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 20 14     SMIM-SE-DragonbornTernFix.esp
 21 15     SMIM-SE-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
 22 16     SMIM-SE-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
 23 17     SkyUI_SE.esp
 24 18     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 25 19     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 26 1a     AnubAnimObj.esp
 27 1b     CBBE.esp
 28 1c     DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
 29 1d     DW.esp
 30 1e     EstrusChaurus.esp
 31 1f     FNIS.esp
 32 20     xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
254 FE   0 Namiras Decorations.esp
 33 21     RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
 34 22     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 35 23     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 36 24     SexLab-Stories.esp
 37 25     SexLab More Creatures.esp
 38 26     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 39 27     Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
 40 28     zdd.esp
 41 29     SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
 42 2a     a1Ravenous.esp
 43 2b     ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp
 44 2c     SimpleSlavery.esp
 45 2d     BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
 46 2e     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 47 2f     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 48 30     TentaCave.esp
 49 31     SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
 50 32     AngrimApprentice.esp
 51 33     AnimatedParasites.esp
 52 34     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
 53 35     PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
 54 36     PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
 55 37     Namira'sGoat.esp
254 FE   1 Namiras Skyrim - bodyparts.esp
 56 38     PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
 57 39     PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
 58 3a     SexLabDefeat.esp
 59 3b     Sextreme Pinups.esp
 60 3c     Sextreme-All.esp
 61 3d     Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp
 62 3e     Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp
 63 3f     SLALAnimObj.esp
 64 40     SLAnimLoader.esp
 65 41     SOS - Leito Addon.esp
 66 42     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 67 43     sr_FillHerUp.esp
 68 44     TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp
 69 45     UIExtensions.esp
 70 46     Immersive Weapons.esp
 71 47     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 72 48     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
 73 49     TKAA.esp
 74 4a     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
254 FE   2 3BBB.esp
254 FE   3 3BBB-RaceMenuMorphs.esp
 75 4b     TAWoBA - Light Armor Patch.esp
 76 4c     TAWoBA - JOP Patch.esp
 77 4d     TAWOBA Level Lists.esp
 78 4e     RaceMenu.esp
 79 4f     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 80 50     Sisterhood Mara.esp
 81 51     Apropos2.esp
 82 52     SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
 83 53     Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp
 84 54     SlaveTats.esp
254 FE   4 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
 85 55     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 86 56     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 87 57     XPMSE.esp
 88 58     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
 89 59     Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
 

 

 

Thanks for you help! Any mods here that are problem causers that I should cut out?
 

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the chain beasts mod unless it's been fixed would be my first guess. I can't help you with vortex as i use MO2 but my xpmse is far far lower, everything below it overwrites it, it will take you a bit but look at the thread for modding skyrim for beginners by aylis, has a list of mods and where they are placed, loot has a cow about the order but it's ordered exactly the way it is in load order. 

Random crashes are usually a memory thing but with sse that should have gone away, if it's always x distance from y city then that tells you it is something that changes that city (slave run for example changing whiterun)

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as you can see, over 400 mods with 283 active esp. i had huge problems with chainbeasts causing ctd before my last rebuild so i don't have it. i would honestly make a new game (remove chainbeasts) `tgm and go to the cities you are having crashes in as a test PC. if it doesn't crash at all then there is your culprit. if not, move far enough away it doesn't have an issue and turn them off one by one, or by 5 or by 10 until you don't get any crashes and start adding everything back. 

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28 minutes ago, jaeos said:

the chain beasts mod unless it's been fixed would be my first guess. I can't help you with vortex as i use MO2 but my xpmse is far far lower, everything below it overwrites it, it will take you a bit but look at the thread for moddingskyrim for beginners by aylis, has a list of mods and where they are placed, loot has a cow about the order but it's ordered exactly the way it is in load order. 

Random crashes are usually a memory thing but with sse that should have gone away, if it's always x distance from ycity then that tells you it is something that changes that city (slave run for example changing whiterun)

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as you can see, over 400 mods with 283 active esp. i had huge problems with chainbeasts causing ctd before my last rebuild so i don't have it. i would honestly make a new game (remove chainbeasts) `tgm and go to the cities you are having crashes in as a test PC. if it doesn't crash at all then there is your culprit. if not, move far enough away it doesn't have an issue and turn them off one by one, or by 5 or by 10 until you don't get any crashes and start adding everything back. 

I used to use mod organizer but had several similar locational crashes, specially around riverwood. 

 

I have been doing some digging in the comments of all the mods and it seems that hydra slaves (while aesthetically awesome!) seems to cause several ctd, around the same points I was having. So I've gone through and dumped about 10+ mods, and brought in a few others that are said to help stabilize, as well as cutting off a conflicting animal mod. 

 

Chainbeasts look awesome on paper, but if it is causing issues I can separate it for a bit. 

 

I'll edit my first post with the new load order in a few minutes. 

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I would be interested in seeing what your Papyrus log is screaming about.  While it doesn't tell you what ctd's your game, it is pretty good at pointing out mods that are having issues.

 

At a glance, I would suggest that there are some mod conflicts between SexLab-Stories, FromTheDeeps, Slaverun_Reloaded, and sanguinesDebauchery.  These are going to have conflicts with each other due to the nature of what they do.   I don't believe From the Deep was ever truely finished.  Slaverun Reloaded is.... Well a resource hog at best.  In fact, if you are having Whiterun issues then it's probably one or more mods conflicting with Slaverun.  I'd start there.  Nix it and give it a go and see if that fixes your CTDs.  

 

Be sure and run FNIS and use a save game cleaner after any modifications.

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4 hours ago, rafael666 said:

I would be interested in seeing what your Papyrus log is screaming about.  While it doesn't tell you what ctd's your game, it is pretty good at pointing out mods that are having issues.

 

At a glance, I would suggest that there are some mod conflicts between SexLab-Stories, FromTheDeeps, Slaverun_Reloaded, and sanguinesDebauchery.  These are going to have conflicts with each other due to the nature of what they do.   I don't believe From the Deep was ever truely finished.  Slaverun Reloaded is.... Well a resource hog at best.  In fact, if you are having Whiterun issues then it's probably one or more mods conflicting with Slaverun.  I'd start there.  Nix it and give it a go and see if that fixes your CTDs.  

 

Be sure and run FNIS and use a save game cleaner after any modifications.

 

I have managed to complete Slaverun back in late 2016, It worked fine as long as I did not dump 250+ mods in with it. I had everythign perfectly balanced back then. :(

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1 hour ago, gregathit said:

Take a close look at your mods and make sure you are supposed to have both versions of things, or if you were supposed to only chose one:

 65 41     SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon (No Balls).esp
 66 42     SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon.esp

 

Thank, I've disabled them for the time being, It was originally just there as a suggested mod for another one but I removed that one and decided I did not need these either. 

 

I'm starting to get back into the swing of things, turns out I have multiple CBBE's fighting for control as well. >.< New list updated.

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On 12/21/2019 at 8:16 PM, Sybian said:

I used to use mod organizer but had several similar locational crashes, specially around riverwood. 

 

I have been doing some digging in the comments of all the mods and it seems that hydra slaves (while aesthetically awesome!) seems to cause several ctd, around the same points I was having. So I've gone through and dumped about 10+ mods, and brought in a few others that are said to help stabilize, as well as cutting off a conflicting animal mod. 

 

Chainbeasts look awesome on paper, but if it is causing issues I can separate it for a bit. 

 

I'll edit my first post with the new load order in a few minutes. 

When i looked at chainbeasts it was still just after someone went and did a whole bunch of le ports, just ported them and didn't fix anything like the smp issues kimy is fixing on her mods (devious devices) if someone went back and fixed it, well.. good. 

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On 12/23/2019 at 7:13 AM, jaeos said:

When i looked at chainbeasts it was still just after someone went and did a whole bunch of le ports, just ported them and didn't fix anything like the smpissues kimy is fixing on her mods (devious devices) if someone went back and fixed it, well.. good. 

Yeah I took that one out. Read threw a bunch more of the mods and removed some others causing trouble. Now the game is nearly stable with general combat and quests working, most CTD are random while doing quests lines in Slaverun. (it's the main reason I'm re-playing the game.) And some locational crashes with sisterhood. (Again my #2 reason for replaying.) So I got no idea what to do. >.< Asking in the threads and tried everything I could think of. 

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7 hours ago, Sybian said:

Yeah I took that one out. Read threw a bunch more of the mods and removed some others causing trouble. Now the game is nearly stable with general combat and quests working, most CTD are random while doing quests lines in Slaverun. (it's the main reason I'm re-playing the game.) And some locational crashes with sisterhood. (Again my #2 reason for replaying.) So I got no idea what to do. >.< Asking in the threads and tried everything I could think of. 

There were some problems with DD that had to do with porting over and there not being a hdt-smp (it's not smp but the personal version) that has a patch out. i'm not sure if they re-uploaded the entire package with the fix or not, i have not updated anything in a few months since everything on mine was stable when i installed it. and sisterhood had an issue with facegen data that was causing crashes, you had to merge version1.32 with the new version. @Adviser69 would be better able to help with that one better than i would.

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15 hours ago, Sybian said:

Yeah I took that one out. Read threw a bunch more of the mods and removed some others causing trouble. Now the game is nearly stable with general combat and quests working, most CTD are random while doing quests lines in Slaverun. (it's the main reason I'm re-playing the game.) And some locational crashes with sisterhood. (Again my #2 reason for replaying.) So I got no idea what to do. >.< Asking in the threads and tried everything I could think of. 

You need to either redo facegen for Sisterhood, or find the facegen fix in the Sisterhood thread. This is the reason for CTDs related to SoD.

 

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