Sybian Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Alright, so it's been like 2 years and I'm dying to get into Skyrim again! I Thought I'd start with SSE and try to go with a low level mod list as to not cause too many issues. Playing on low settings with a powerful rig. In total less then 100 mods! I'm really cutting back!! But again crash crash crash! I have used Loot, I have cleaned all my mods and dlc, I have tried to avoid anything that are reported to be "unstable" I have looked at successful load orders and tried to replicate it. Ran bodyslide, Fnis, everything is as up to date as I can get it. Using Vortex. Crashes occur when near cities and or packs of npc's. I'm dying to finishslaverun, and the two Sisterhood quest mods. Any help would be great! (Moved XPMSE to late loader as a suggestion from another thread.) *Edit, Reworked list. New new list. Several errors fixed that loot did not catch. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 9 9 Amputator.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b SexLab.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 d FISS.esp 14 e Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 15 f SexLabAroused.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 18 12 SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm 19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 20 14 SMIM-SE-DragonbornTernFix.esp 21 15 SMIM-SE-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp 22 16 SMIM-SE-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp 23 17 SkyUI_SE.esp 24 18 Cutting Room Floor.esp 25 19 MoreNastyCritters.esp 26 1a AnubAnimObj.esp 27 1b CBBE.esp 28 1c DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 29 1d DW.esp 30 1e EstrusChaurus.esp 31 1f FNIS.esp 32 20 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp 254 FE 0 Namiras Decorations.esp 33 21 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 34 22 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 35 23 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 36 24 SexLab-Stories.esp 37 25 SexLab More Creatures.esp 38 26 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 39 27 Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 40 28 zdd.esp 41 29 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 42 2a a1Ravenous.esp 43 2b ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp 44 2c SimpleSlavery.esp 45 2d BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 46 2e SexLab_Dialogues.esp 47 2f SexLab-Parasites.esp 48 30 TentaCave.esp 49 31 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 50 32 AngrimApprentice.esp 51 33 AnimatedParasites.esp 52 34 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 53 35 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 54 36 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 55 37 Namira'sGoat.esp 254 FE 1 Namiras Skyrim - bodyparts.esp 56 38 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 57 39 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 58 3a SexLabDefeat.esp 59 3b Sextreme Pinups.esp 60 3c Sextreme-All.esp 61 3d Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp 62 3e Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp 63 3f SLALAnimObj.esp 64 40 SLAnimLoader.esp 65 41 SOS - Leito Addon.esp 66 42 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 67 43 sr_FillHerUp.esp 68 44 TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp 69 45 UIExtensions.esp 70 46 Immersive Weapons.esp 71 47 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 72 48 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 73 49 TKAA.esp 74 4a SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 254 FE 2 3BBB.esp 254 FE 3 3BBB-RaceMenuMorphs.esp 75 4b TAWoBA - Light Armor Patch.esp 76 4c TAWoBA - JOP Patch.esp 77 4d TAWOBA Level Lists.esp 78 4e RaceMenu.esp 79 4f RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 80 50 Sisterhood Mara.esp 81 51 Apropos2.esp 82 52 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 83 53 Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp 84 54 SlaveTats.esp 254 FE 4 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 85 55 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 86 56 SOSRaceMenu.esp 87 57 XPMSE.esp 88 58 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 89 59 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Thanks for you help! Any mods here that are problem causers that I should cut out? Link to comment
jaeos Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 the chain beasts mod unless it's been fixed would be my first guess. I can't help you with vortex as i use MO2 but my xpmse is far far lower, everything below it overwrites it, it will take you a bit but look at the thread for modding skyrim for beginners by aylis, has a list of mods and where they are placed, loot has a cow about the order but it's ordered exactly the way it is in load order. Random crashes are usually a memory thing but with sse that should have gone away, if it's always x distance from y city then that tells you it is something that changes that city (slave run for example changing whiterun) Spoiler as you can see, over 400 mods with 283 active esp. i had huge problems with chainbeasts causing ctd before my last rebuild so i don't have it. i would honestly make a new game (remove chainbeasts) `tgm and go to the cities you are having crashes in as a test PC. if it doesn't crash at all then there is your culprit. if not, move far enough away it doesn't have an issue and turn them off one by one, or by 5 or by 10 until you don't get any crashes and start adding everything back. Link to comment
Sybian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, jaeos said: the chain beasts mod unless it's been fixed would be my first guess. I can't help you with vortex as i use MO2 but my xpmse is far far lower, everything below it overwrites it, it will take you a bit but look at the thread for moddingskyrim for beginners by aylis, has a list of mods and where they are placed, loot has a cow about the order but it's ordered exactly the way it is in load order. Random crashes are usually a memory thing but with sse that should have gone away, if it's always x distance from ycity then that tells you it is something that changes that city (slave run for example changing whiterun) Reveal hidden contents as you can see, over 400 mods with 283 active esp. i had huge problems with chainbeasts causing ctd before my last rebuild so i don't have it. i would honestly make a new game (remove chainbeasts) `tgm and go to the cities you are having crashes in as a test PC. if it doesn't crash at all then there is your culprit. if not, move far enough away it doesn't have an issue and turn them off one by one, or by 5 or by 10 until you don't get any crashes and start adding everything back. I used to use mod organizer but had several similar locational crashes, specially around riverwood. I have been doing some digging in the comments of all the mods and it seems that hydra slaves (while aesthetically awesome!) seems to cause several ctd, around the same points I was having. So I've gone through and dumped about 10+ mods, and brought in a few others that are said to help stabilize, as well as cutting off a conflicting animal mod. Chainbeasts look awesome on paper, but if it is causing issues I can separate it for a bit. I'll edit my first post with the new load order in a few minutes. Link to comment
rafael666 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I would be interested in seeing what your Papyrus log is screaming about. While it doesn't tell you what ctd's your game, it is pretty good at pointing out mods that are having issues. At a glance, I would suggest that there are some mod conflicts between SexLab-Stories, FromTheDeeps, Slaverun_Reloaded, and sanguinesDebauchery. These are going to have conflicts with each other due to the nature of what they do. I don't believe From the Deep was ever truely finished. Slaverun Reloaded is.... Well a resource hog at best. In fact, if you are having Whiterun issues then it's probably one or more mods conflicting with Slaverun. I'd start there. Nix it and give it a go and see if that fixes your CTDs. Be sure and run FNIS and use a save game cleaner after any modifications. Link to comment
gregathit Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Take a close look at your mods and make sure you are supposed to have both versions of things, or if you were supposed to only chose one: 65 41 SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon (No Balls).esp 66 42 SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon.esp Link to comment
Sybian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 4 hours ago, rafael666 said: I would be interested in seeing what your Papyrus log is screaming about. While it doesn't tell you what ctd's your game, it is pretty good at pointing out mods that are having issues. At a glance, I would suggest that there are some mod conflicts between SexLab-Stories, FromTheDeeps, Slaverun_Reloaded, and sanguinesDebauchery. These are going to have conflicts with each other due to the nature of what they do. I don't believe From the Deep was ever truely finished. Slaverun Reloaded is.... Well a resource hog at best. In fact, if you are having Whiterun issues then it's probably one or more mods conflicting with Slaverun. I'd start there. Nix it and give it a go and see if that fixes your CTDs. Be sure and run FNIS and use a save game cleaner after any modifications. I have managed to complete Slaverun back in late 2016, It worked fine as long as I did not dump 250+ mods in with it. I had everythign perfectly balanced back then. Link to comment
Sybian Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, gregathit said: Take a close look at your mods and make sure you are supposed to have both versions of things, or if you were supposed to only chose one: 65 41 SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon (No Balls).esp 66 42 SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon.esp Thank, I've disabled them for the time being, It was originally just there as a suggested mod for another one but I removed that one and decided I did not need these either. I'm starting to get back into the swing of things, turns out I have multiple CBBE's fighting for control as well. >.< New list updated. Link to comment
jaeos Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 On 12/21/2019 at 8:16 PM, Sybian said: I used to use mod organizer but had several similar locational crashes, specially around riverwood. I have been doing some digging in the comments of all the mods and it seems that hydra slaves (while aesthetically awesome!) seems to cause several ctd, around the same points I was having. So I've gone through and dumped about 10+ mods, and brought in a few others that are said to help stabilize, as well as cutting off a conflicting animal mod. Chainbeasts look awesome on paper, but if it is causing issues I can separate it for a bit. I'll edit my first post with the new load order in a few minutes. When i looked at chainbeasts it was still just after someone went and did a whole bunch of le ports, just ported them and didn't fix anything like the smp issues kimy is fixing on her mods (devious devices) if someone went back and fixed it, well.. good. Link to comment
Sybian Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 7:13 AM, jaeos said: When i looked at chainbeasts it was still just after someone went and did a whole bunch of le ports, just ported them and didn't fix anything like the smpissues kimy is fixing on her mods (devious devices) if someone went back and fixed it, well.. good. Yeah I took that one out. Read threw a bunch more of the mods and removed some others causing trouble. Now the game is nearly stable with general combat and quests working, most CTD are random while doing quests lines in Slaverun. (it's the main reason I'm re-playing the game.) And some locational crashes with sisterhood. (Again my #2 reason for replaying.) So I got no idea what to do. >.< Asking in the threads and tried everything I could think of. Link to comment
jaeos Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Sybian said: Yeah I took that one out. Read threw a bunch more of the mods and removed some others causing trouble. Now the game is nearly stable with general combat and quests working, most CTD are random while doing quests lines in Slaverun. (it's the main reason I'm re-playing the game.) And some locational crashes with sisterhood. (Again my #2 reason for replaying.) So I got no idea what to do. >.< Asking in the threads and tried everything I could think of. There were some problems with DD that had to do with porting over and there not being a hdt-smp (it's not smp but the personal version) that has a patch out. i'm not sure if they re-uploaded the entire package with the fix or not, i have not updated anything in a few months since everything on mine was stable when i installed it. and sisterhood had an issue with facegen data that was causing crashes, you had to merge version1.32 with the new version. @Adviser69 would be better able to help with that one better than i would. Link to comment
Adviser69 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Sybian said: Yeah I took that one out. Read threw a bunch more of the mods and removed some others causing trouble. Now the game is nearly stable with general combat and quests working, most CTD are random while doing quests lines in Slaverun. (it's the main reason I'm re-playing the game.) And some locational crashes with sisterhood. (Again my #2 reason for replaying.) So I got no idea what to do. >.< Asking in the threads and tried everything I could think of. You need to either redo facegen for Sisterhood, or find the facegen fix in the Sisterhood thread. This is the reason for CTDs related to SoD. Link to comment
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