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Alrighty so I've noticed that when I run up to followers from certain mods it will cause my game to freeze. Like the music will play in the background and such but it will just become unresponsive, I'd like to know how to fix this mayhaps? Thank you for that.

I also tried converting a follower to Skyrim SSE from Oldrim. I successfully got the character in the game, however when I approached them I CTD'd. I was about 20 feet away maybe 10 feet when the CTD happened but as long as I keep my distance it does not CTD only when I approach, what could cause this?

Posted
1 minute ago, Synlaine said:

Alrighty so I've noticed that when I run up to followers from certain mods it will cause my game to freeze. Like the music will play in the background and such but it will just become unresponsive, I'd like to know how to fix this mayhaps? Thank you for that.

I also tried converting a follower to Skyrim SSE from Oldrim. I successfully got the character in the game, however when I approached them I CTD'd. I was about 20 feet away maybe 10 feet when the CTD happened but as long as I keep my distance it does not CTD only when I approach, what could cause this?

About the first part, do you have this?

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230

Posted
2 minutes ago, Synlaine said:

@Psalam I do indeed! I can give you my load order if that would help?

Yes, a load order will be needed to sort it out. Since it's a freeze if you already have a papyrus log that might also help although, if you don't already have one, don't go to the hassle (yet) of getting one.

 

I hope you have luck with your thread about converting the follower. Like everything else in Skyrim I'm sure it's more tedious than difficult, although tedious has its own issues.

Posted

@Psalam I posted the load order up in a text file so I don't bombard chat with ye old wall of text lol. I was running Papyrus logs but I wiped them in frustration when I couldn't understand what was going on x.x

Also I believe someone already converted the follower so hopefully it will work!

Posted

@PsalamWell I am trying to use Dominion's more Khajiit and Argonians. It seems like most mods that add in extra followers will cause a freeze when I approach them. I think it might have to do something with audio because ProcMon usually would display something about Voices.BSA or Sound.BSA just before the freeze? And what usually happens is I'll walk up and I believe they are about to say something and sometimes they get halfway through the sentence before it freezes.

Felicity was the only one causing a CTD but I think that has to do with being converted over from oldrim.

Posted
1 minute ago, Synlaine said:

@PsalamWell I am trying to use Dominion's more Khajiit and Argonians. It seems like most mods that add in extra followers will cause a freeze when I approach them. I think it might have to do something with audio because ProcMon usually would display something about Voices.BSA or Sound.BSA just before the freeze? And what usually happens is I'll walk up and I believe they are about to say something and sometimes they get halfway through the sentence before it freezes.

Felicity was the only one causing a CTD but I think that has to do with being converted over from oldrim.

In that case I'll likely benefit from a papyrus log. If you don't know how to do it I have a blog on CTD with an entry that specifically deals with papyrus logs. I know the blog says LE but the process is identical with SE. Once you have logging enabled go back into your game and do whatever it is that has caused the freeze before. Then, once it's frozen, get our of the game and post the log from that game here.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Synlaine said:

I'll run the game a few more times and collect a few more logs for ya.

From what I've seen I have two pieces of advice/comments/questions:

 

1) When you start your game with ASLAL (good call) stay in the Mara prison cell until everything says it's done loading. According to your logs you are still loading Creature Framework when you start playing. That may be all you need to do to fix your problem.

2) If that is not sufficient I would look and be sure I needed:

  RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp which I believe is hexadecimal 23 in your load order which seems to be messing with other things

Posted

@Psalam Oh sorry about that, I should say that the crashes happen after loading everything. I had done a playthrough earlier this morning and had put 2+ hours into it so everything was loaded. The freezes happened pretty much the same exact way as when I'm starting anew. Would you like me to make a new character, let everything load, then do whatever it is that causes the freeze?

I also wanted to say thank you very much for helping me with this :D

 

Also I believe 23 is Yiffy Age Consolidated.

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     CreatureFramework.esm
  7  7     FISS.esp
  8  8     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  9  9     SexLab.esm
 10  a     SexLabAroused.esm
 11  b     BadDogSchlongCore.esm
 12  c     ApachiiHair.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 14  e     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 15  f     Campfire.esm
 16 10     RaceCompatibility.esm
 17 11     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 18 12     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 19 13     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 20 14     SkyUI_SE.esp
 21 15     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 22 16     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 23 17     Dolomite Weathers.esp
 24 18     TrueStormsSE.esp
 25 19     Cloaks.esp
 26 1a     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
 27 1b     Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
 28 1c     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 29 1d     dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 30 1e     FNIS.esp
 31 1f     DW.esp
 32 20     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 33 21     RaceMenu.esp
 34 22     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 35 23     YiffyAgeConsolidated.esp
 36 24     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 37 25     SexLabTools.esp
 38 26     SLAnimLoader.esp
 39 27     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 40 28     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 41 29     sr_FillHerUp.esp
 42 2a     UIExtensions.esp
 43 2b     XPMSE.esp
 44 2c     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 45 2d     AnubAnimObj.esp
 46 2e     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 47 2f     SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
 48 30     SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
 49 31     SexLabDefeat.esp
 50 32     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 51 33     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 52 34     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 53 35     RLO - Interiors.esp
 54 36     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 55 37     Immersive Jewelry.esp
 56 38     YiffyAgeDigi.esp
 57 39     YiffyAgeSchlongs.esp
 58 3a     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 59 3b     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 60 3c     Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
 61 3d     Immersive Music.esp
 62 3e     FNISspells.esp
 63 3f     Immersive Patrols II.esp
 64 40     HornyCreatures.esp
 65 41     Immersive Weapons.esp
 66 42     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 67 43     YACuttingRoomFloorPatch.esp
 68 44     Tentapalooza.esp
 69 45     HistoricalWeapons.esp
 70 46     Frostfall.esp
 71 47     Lupinus.esp
 72 48     ajd_morekhajiit_sse_pc.esp
 73 49     ajd_moreargonians_sse_pc.esp
 74 4a     Dolomite_TS_Patch_HeavyFog.esp
 75 4b     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 76 4c     Campfire spooning-x64.esp
 77 4d     Cloaks&Capes.esp
 78 4e     DexenaFollower.esp
 79 4f     SGEyebrows.esp
 80 50     VioLens SE.esp
 81 51     Dr_Bandolier.esp
 82 52     EremiteCamping.esp
 83 53     WetandCold.esp
 84 54     SitaFollower.esp
 85 55     FaelCampingStuff.esp
 86 56     Shiira a Female Khajiit Follower.esp
 87 57     SeeEnchs.esp
 88 58     NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
 89 59     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
 90 5a     MoonlightTalesMCM.esp
 91 5b     Lyanna.esp
 92 5c     InstantMining.esp
 93 5d     RLO - CRF Patch.esp
 94 5e     RLO - Effects.esp
 95 5f     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
 96 60     RLO - VIS Patch.esp
 97 61     Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
 98 62     TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
 99 63     Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp
100 64     Felicity.esp
101 65     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
102 66     Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
103 67     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
104 68     water flow lines fix patch.esp
105 69     RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp
254 FE   0 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Synlaine said:

@Psalam Two more logs. Had to do something sorry it took a while but honestly I think these 4 would be good enough or do you need more? .3. 

Papyrus.0.log 85.43 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.1.log 226.85 kB · 0 downloads

Yeah, these two show the same sort of pattern. I think you might just need to give the prison cell more time even if you think everything is done loading. All four of your logs indicate that Creature Framework is still loading after you've left your cell and at the end of the log.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Synlaine said:

@Psalam Oh sorry about that, I should say that the crashes happen after loading everything. I had done a playthrough earlier this morning and had put 2+ hours into it so everything was loaded. The freezes happened pretty much the same exact way as when I'm starting anew. Would you like me to make a new character, let everything load, then do whatever it is that causes the freeze?

I also wanted to say thank you very much for helping me with this :D

 

Also I believe 23 is Yiffy Age Consolidated.

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     CreatureFramework.esm
  7  7     FISS.esp
  8  8     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  9  9     SexLab.esm
 10  a     SexLabAroused.esm
 11  b     BadDogSchlongCore.esm
 12  c     ApachiiHair.esm
 13  d     ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 14  e     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 15  f     Campfire.esm
 16 10     RaceCompatibility.esm
 17 11     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 18 12     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 19 13     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 20 14     SkyUI_SE.esp
 21 15     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 22 16     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 23 17     Dolomite Weathers.esp
 24 18     TrueStormsSE.esp
 25 19     Cloaks.esp
 26 1a     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
 27 1b     Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
 28 1c     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 29 1d     dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 30 1e     FNIS.esp
 31 1f     DW.esp
 32 20     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
 33 21     RaceMenu.esp
 34 22     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 35 23     YiffyAgeConsolidated.esp
 36 24     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 37 25     SexLabTools.esp
 38 26     SLAnimLoader.esp
 39 27     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 40 28     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 41 29     sr_FillHerUp.esp
 42 2a     UIExtensions.esp
 43 2b     XPMSE.esp
 44 2c     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 45 2d     AnubAnimObj.esp
 46 2e     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 47 2f     SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
 48 30     SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
 49 31     SexLabDefeat.esp
 50 32     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 51 33     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 52 34     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
 53 35     RLO - Interiors.esp
 54 36     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 55 37     Immersive Jewelry.esp
 56 38     YiffyAgeDigi.esp
 57 39     YiffyAgeSchlongs.esp
 58 3a     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 59 3b     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 60 3c     Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
 61 3d     Immersive Music.esp
 62 3e     FNISspells.esp
 63 3f     Immersive Patrols II.esp
 64 40     HornyCreatures.esp
 65 41     Immersive Weapons.esp
 66 42     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 67 43     YACuttingRoomFloorPatch.esp
 68 44     Tentapalooza.esp
 69 45     HistoricalWeapons.esp
 70 46     Frostfall.esp
 71 47     Lupinus.esp
 72 48     ajd_morekhajiit_sse_pc.esp
 73 49     ajd_moreargonians_sse_pc.esp
 74 4a     Dolomite_TS_Patch_HeavyFog.esp
 75 4b     IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
 76 4c     Campfire spooning-x64.esp
 77 4d     Cloaks&Capes.esp
 78 4e     DexenaFollower.esp
 79 4f     SGEyebrows.esp
 80 50     VioLens SE.esp
 81 51     Dr_Bandolier.esp
 82 52     EremiteCamping.esp
 83 53     WetandCold.esp
 84 54     SitaFollower.esp
 85 55     FaelCampingStuff.esp
 86 56     Shiira a Female Khajiit Follower.esp
 87 57     SeeEnchs.esp
 88 58     NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
 89 59     Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
 90 5a     MoonlightTalesMCM.esp
 91 5b     Lyanna.esp
 92 5c     InstantMining.esp
 93 5d     RLO - CRF Patch.esp
 94 5e     RLO - Effects.esp
 95 5f     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
 96 60     RLO - VIS Patch.esp
 97 61     Book of UUNP - Textures.esp
 98 62     TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
 99 63     Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp
100 64     Felicity.esp
101 65     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
102 66     Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
103 67     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
104 68     water flow lines fix patch.esp
105 69     RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp
254 FE   0 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp

 

I didn't have the numbers so you're right about what is number 23 and that appears to be the only real issue mod. 

 

Yeah, starting a new game and trying without Yiffy might be just the place to start looking.

Posted

@Psalam Good news and bad news. Yiffy Age was causing the issue so thank you so very much for helping me find that out lol. The bad news is, I still want to use it, but idk how to make it work I spose?

Posted
13 minutes ago, Synlaine said:

@Psalam Good news and bad news. Yiffy Age was causing the issue so thank you so very much for helping me find that out lol. The bad news is, I still want to use it, but idk how to make it work I spose?

I have no expertise with it AT ALL. However, what you need to do is to go to the Support Thread for the mod and post what you've just done and discovered. It is likely that someone there will know all about the issue and explain to you how you work it so that you can use it as you desire.

Posted

@Psalam Already ahead of ya lol. But thank you so so so much for helping me with this :D Would it be a bother if I came to you if I have any other issues with CTDs or Freezes that I can't fix on my own?

Posted
26 minutes ago, Synlaine said:

@Psalam Already ahead of ya lol. But thank you so so so much for helping me with this :D Would it be a bother if I came to you if I have any other issues with CTDs or Freezes that I can't fix on my own?

Feel free.

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