Reginald_001 Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, D3nt0n said: oh we are being serious again now are we? ok so: hehe my British spellcheck thinks you spelled behaviour wrong, AND YOU DID!!!, Jk, serious, I was being serious. Its not just evolutionary diverisity, human morality does come into it when a sex act is so obviously harmful. Harmful is a better word than unnatural when it comes to human behaviour, as Terry Pratchet said "its natural to eat your meat raw and sleep in a tree, do you do that too?"(yes I've quoted that before on these forums but i like the quote). I like that quote and I've taken it apart many times, because it's flawed in it's premise: "It's natural to eat your meat raw and sleep in a tree". Nope, that's not the natural thing. It's natural to eat the best food you can get your hands on. And it's natural to sleep in the safest place you can. A couple of thousand years ago that might have been raw meat and trees. But now it's steaks and mattresses. 14 minutes ago, D3nt0n said: The case cited, Jeffery Dahmer, was a bonafide Psychopath. Psychopathy is born not learned. Drugs get a bad rap for a lot of things, I can understand drugs turning a person into a crackwhore or a worthless shell of a human, I've seen speed and cocaine turn people into boring pricks , but i don't think drugs can turn you into a serial killer that eats and fucks their victims. There has to be some level of psychopathy present first. This has been proven wrong by clinical psychiatrists. Not sure if I can find the reading material. But Psychopathy should be divided into a whole line of different empathic disorders. There is a scale, basically from 0 to 100. And people are normally divided along the scale. But childhood trauma up to the seventh or eight year can lead to criminal psychopathic tendencies. Especially abandonment and abuse. Going back to the scale It can be in balance, but drugs, and particularly heavy drug use, can easily tip the balance. The weekly police reports are extremely clear on this. Over 80% of violent crime involves some kind of drug use. Drug use can cause instant psychopathy, especially when a user is heavily under influence. On the long term that psychological damage can stick and can turn a nice neighborhood kid into a thieving, raping and murdering junky. I mean.. examples enough right? Just check any news site right now. ps: I'm from Holland and I think my English as second language is pretty darned good. My spell checker says that you wrote behavior wrong: But, both spellings are acceptable:
D3nt0n Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 i was joking about the spelling When people use the word Natural to describe human behavior/behaviour (delete as applicable) they generally always either mean some mythical De Jure state or some artifice of contemporary values. I (and the quote) was refering to the former you are refering to the latter. The test is the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist and its been discredited i believe. Also "psychopathic tendencies" is not the same as true psychopathy which is generally agreed to be something you are born with not an acquired trait. John Ronsons "The psychopath Test" is a great book on this subject https://www.amazon.co.uk/Psychopath-Test-Jon-Ronson/dp/0330492276 Quote Going back to the scale It can be in balance, but drugs, and particularly heavy drug use, can easily tip the balance. The weekly police reports are extremely clear on this. Over 80% of violent crime involves some kind of drug use. Drug use can cause instant psychopathy, especially when a user is heavily under influence. On the long term that psychological damage can stick and can turn a nice neighbourhood kid into a thieving, raping and murdering junky. I mean.. examples enough right? Just check any news site right now. Again you are confusing violent and anti social behaviour with Psychopathy.. Psychopathy is not neccessarily violent. It is simply a condition where (simplified) a person is incapable of empathy for others, cannot read facial expressions of other humans, and has load of other tendencies- sexual promiscuity, overblown sense of self worth etc. (cant remember them all). Serial Killers are generally always clinical Psychopaths because a normal human would feel at least some remorse after their first kill. Clinical Psychopaths feel none. Environmental factors may make them violent, but the level of brutal, repeated slaughter committed by a serial killer genrally requires psychopathy to sustain it. PS: Oh god i just read your PS, your english is Fabulous, brilliant in fact. So good i assumed you were american. i meant no offense, i was just making a stupid joke about american english versus british english, brits and americans always joke about the difference in the language. The missing u, pavement/sidewalk, fanny means different things in UK/US, we pronounce "herbs" with "H" cos its got a fucking H in it (Eddie Izzard joke). sorry. I really wasn't criticising your english its perfect to be honest. PPS: Quote My spell checker says that you wrote behavior wrong: spellcheckers tell me I do a lot of things wrong
FauxFurry Posted October 26, 2019 Posted October 26, 2019 21 hours ago, D3nt0n said: And people call an Erection a "Boner" but the bone is the part you don't eat. But you do put it in your mouth and suck the juice out, if you are so inclined. Do you see? DO YOU SEE? honestly though this threads silly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculum ?
FauxFurry Posted October 26, 2019 Posted October 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Reginald_001 said: The correlation is that eating means 'licking' which is very close to tasting/food/eating. Sucking dick and drinking cum are really literal. From a biological perspective cannibalism literally goes against nature. It repulses, just like for instance sex with your parents or siblings repulses. But because of evolutionary diversity, there is statistically always a small part of any type of animal that engages in unnatural behavior. In the 'norm' it is unnatural and considered insane and repulsive. Now as to your question: It depends on the fantasy/desire. For those fantasizing about eating themselves, or being eaten by another person. This could point towards deeply rooted issues of self loathing. It definitely points to a mismatched self-image and likely points to deeply rooted childhood trauma. This is often then coming from social reasons, e.g. being bullied and beaten as a child by someone that is supposed to take care of you and that you trust, or being ostracized by your peers to such an extent that social isolation is the norm. It could potentially go even deeper than that to a primal level. Perhaps those who have such fantasies feel as if they have ascended to close to the apex of the Food Chain or central node of a Food Web through no effort of their own so they wish to be re-absorbed into the web voluntarily yet lack the strength of conviction to go through with it?
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