luinil Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 a load order in order it is a must if i can add do you have the last plugin for obse like menuq and elyse i never have any probleme with autosave but i had a thing like yours and i saw that the more my female character had sex the more she had sperm data in inventry the more my game was very slow to save or to load (a probleme with tamago/hyoko and or autorisation in my computer but i did not care so much as i am running with the third setting there is nothing added and written to my inventy and every thing is fluid and fast). Also I am curious about what is the third setting? Realism setting in TamagoCLub?I usually have it set to 1.So you are saying that with TamagoCLub you find the third realism setting is best an could possibly avoid save game bloat etc.With the 3rd realism setting can you still get pregnant?Or make a female npc pregnant ? I might try this next to see if I can get tamago club working with bloating.
movomo Posted August 29, 2013 Posted August 29, 2013 Luinil, would you mind posting your obse.log so we can see what plugin is causing obse bloat?
luinil Posted August 31, 2013 Posted August 31, 2013 Luinil, would you mind posting your obse.log so we can see what plugin is causing obse bloat? Sure I am going to play for a while more with my current suite of mods just to be sure there is no hidden bloat out there but the next mod I will try is tamago with realism setting 3, to see if that make any difference.
luinil Posted September 1, 2013 Posted September 1, 2013 Luinil, would you mind posting your obse.log so we can see what plugin is causing obse bloat? Sure I am going to play for a while more with my current suite of mods just to be sure there is no hidden bloat out there but the next mod I will try is tamago with realism setting 3, to see if that make any difference. Ok I did a test played GGBlackmail quest ,the public humiliation in the IC,sans tamago club ============================================================================================== at start .ess file was 1938kb, .obse 173kb at end of quest , back to base at kovac mail hall 1949kb .ess , .obse 174 kb -0.5 hrs play time. so no problem. Ok I did a test played GGBlackmail quest ,the public humiliation in the IC,with tamago club w realist level set to 3 ============================================================================================ Loaded Tamago Stuff at save game at start of GGBlackmail quest,played to end of quest at kovac main hall . at start .ess file was 1938kb, .obse 173kb. Saved game at entering IC area, during quest ( Tamago Stuff would be saved 1st time in save game I guess) 1956kb .ess, 217Kb obse save game at end of quest at kovac main base .ess 1948kb, .obse 257Kb Load order Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm TamagoNews.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp TamagoSetBody.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOPS Additional Changes.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp LoversAphrodisia.esp LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversStalkerM.esp LoversBed.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversStopCombatEx.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp LoversSetScale.esp LoversStripper.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp TamagoDischarge.esp SetBody.esp kuerteeCleanUp.esp Streamline 2.1.esp AleswellHomeQuest.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp P1DkeyChain.esp RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 300ft crime detection-7319.esp Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp MadCompanionshipSpells.esp MCS extension.esp SupremeMagicka.esp SM_ShiveringIsles.esp kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp Oblivion XP.esp DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp x117race.esp Lop-ears Elf.esp Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp x117Race ENG Race.esp DKImperials.esp 1em_Vilja.esp 1em_Vilja_as_High_Imperial.esp MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp LoversGGBlackmail.esp LoversCrowningIsle.esp xeosp++.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Note Dammit I put some lovers w unknow loader Below Setbody(should be above) , I miss read the load order guide, about positioning lovers pluggins that are not on lovers load order list AND have no reccomendation about position from mod author.So I move some lovers mod to position just above set body not just below.Namely LoversStripper.esp LoversHooker.esp,LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp,TamagoDischarge.esp Tamago Stuff running during test.. TamagoClub.esm v 1.15 HiyokoClub.esm v1.10 TamagoNews.esp from base package downloaded from TamagoHiyoko1.15/1/10 op TamagoTopic.esp from base package downloaded fromTamagoHiyoko1.15/1/10 op TamagoConfide.esp from base package downloaded fromTamagoHiyoko1.15/1/10 op LoversTamagoClub.esp assumng its v1.04 as its 8kb in size in obl data folder an the same size as the loversTamagoClub in my Archive of TamagoHiyoko1.15/1.10 interestingly the loversTamagoClub version in my tamagoHiyoko1.12 archive is 48kb note console says its v 1.03 ! LoversHiyokoShooter.esp v1.02 to be used w hiyokoCLub 1.10 and above HiyokoGenerator.esp justinov v1.05 HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp v1.01 TamagoSetBody.esp TamagoSetBody T-Spec edition by Justinof , but I have a version in my tamagoHiyokoClub1.12/1.05 Arch ,tamagoClubHiyokoClub 1.15/1.10 Arch , and Tspec archives all the same size so really not 100 percent, and they are all the same size .The justinov version comes in 3 flavors I think and u choose 1 based upon what type of HGEC body type you are using. TamagoDischarge.esp v1.01 SetBody.esp v1 from docs in folder for my Tspec mod OBSE log during test OBSE: initialize (version = 20.6 010201A0) oblivion root = C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\ plugin directory = C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\ checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll (00000001 Elys_USV 0000005D) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\MenuQue.dll SetOpcodeBase 000025D0 RegisterCommand mqSetMessageBoxSource (25D0) RegisterCommand mqGetSelectedClass (25D1) RegisterCommand mqGetHighlightedClass (25D2) RegisterCommand Kyoma_Test (25D3) RegisterCommand mqGetEnchMenuBaseItem (25D4) RegisterCommand mqGetMapMarkers (25D5) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildFloatValue (25D6) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildStringValue (25D7) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildFloatValue (25D8) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildStringValue (25D9) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildHasTrait (25DA) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildName (25DB) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildCount (25DC) RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuFloatValue (25DD) RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuStringValue (25DE) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveFloatValue (25DF) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveStringValue (25E0) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveFloatValue (25E1) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveStringValue (25E2) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveChildIndex (25E3) RegisterCommand InsertXML (25E4) RegisterCommand mqGetCurrentQuests (25E5) RegisterCommand mqGetCompletedQuests (25E6) RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuest (25E7) RegisterCommand mqSetActiveQuest (25E8) RegisterCommand mqGetQuestCompleted (25E9) RegisterCommand mqUncompleteQuest (25EA) RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuestTargets (25EB) RegisterCommand InsertXMLTemplate (25EC) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalStringValue (25ED) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalStringValue (25EE) SetOpcodeBase 000026B0 RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B0) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B1) RegisterCommand ShowGenericMenu (26B2) RegisterCommand ShowMagicPopupMenu (26B3) RegisterCommand ShowTrainingMenu (26B4) RegisterCommand GetGenericButtonPressed (26B5) RegisterCommand SetMenuEventHandler (26B6) RegisterCommand RemoveMenuEventHandler (26B7) RegisterCommand GetMenuEventType (26B8) RegisterCommand GetFontLoaded (26B9) RegisterCommand UpdateLocalMap (26BA) RegisterCommand GetLocalMapSeen (26BB) RegisterCommand GetWorldMapData (26BC) RegisterCommand IsTextEditInUse (26BD) RegisterCommand GetMousePos (26BE) RegisterCommand SetWorldMapData (26BF) RegisterCommand GetWorldMapDoor (26C0) RegisterCommand GetTextEditString (26C1) RegisterCommand ShowTextEditMenu (26C2) RegisterCommand SetTextEditString (26C3) RegisterCommand tile_GetFloat (26C4) RegisterCommand tile_GetString (26C5) RegisterCommand tile_HasTrait (26C6) RegisterCommand GetLoadedFonts (26C7) RegisterCommand tile_SetFloat (26C8) RegisterCommand tile_SetString (26C9) RegisterCommand tile_FadeFloat (26CA) RegisterCommand tile_GetInfo (26CB) RegisterCommand tile_GetName (26CC) RegisterCommand GetTextEditBox (26CD) RegisterCommand GetMouseImage (26CE) RegisterCommand SetMouseImage (26CF) SetOpcodeBase 000027B0 RegisterCommand GetSkillCode (27B0) RegisterCommand IncrementPlayerSkillUseF (27B1) RegisterCommand TriggerPlayerSkillUseF (27B2) RegisterCommand ModPlayerSkillExpF (27B3) RegisterCommand GetPlayerSkillUseF (27B4) RegisterCommand GetPlayerSkillAdvancesF (27B5) RegisterCommand SetPlayerSkillAdvancesF (27B6) RegisterCommand GetRequiredSkillExpF (27B7) RegisterCommand GetSkillUseIncrementF (27B8) RegisterCommand SetSkillUseIncrementF (27B9) RegisterCommand GetSkillGoverningAttributeF (27BA) RegisterCommand SetSkillGoverningAttributeF (27BB) RegisterCommand GetSkillSpecializationF (27BC) RegisterCommand SetSkillSpecializationF (27BD) plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\MenuQue.dll (00000002 OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue 0000000B) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll SetOpcodeBase 00002330 RegisterCommand GetEsp (2330) RegisterCommand CreateArray (2331) RegisterCommand DestroyArray (2332) RegisterCommand ArraySize (2333) RegisterCommand ArrayCount (2334) RegisterCommand SetInArray (2335) RegisterCommand SetFloatInArray (2336) RegisterCommand GetInArray (2337) RegisterCommand GetTypeInArray (2338) RegisterCommand RemInArray (2339) RegisterCommand FindInArray (233A) RegisterCommand FindFloatInArray (233B) RegisterCommand SetRefInArray (233C) RegisterCommand FindRefInArray (233D) RegisterCommand CopyArray (233E) RegisterCommand ArrayEsp (233F) RegisterCommand ArrayProtect (2340) RegisterCommand FirstInArray (2341) RegisterCommand DestroyAllArrays (2342) RegisterCommand PackArray (2343) RegisterCommand CreateString (2344) RegisterCommand DestroyString (2345) RegisterCommand SetString (2346) RegisterCommand StringEsp (2347) RegisterCommand StringProtect (2348) RegisterCommand StringLen (2349) RegisterCommand DestroyAllStrings (234A) RegisterCommand StringSetName (234B) RegisterCommand StringGetName (234C) RegisterCommand StringMsg (234D) RegisterCommand StringCat (234E) RegisterCommand UserFileExists (234F) SetOpcodeBase 00002378 RegisterCommand RenFile (2378) RegisterCommand DelFile (2379) RegisterCommand StringToTxtFile (237A) RegisterCommand CopyString (237B) RegisterCommand IntToString (237C) RegisterCommand FloatToString (237D) RegisterCommand RefToString (237E) RegisterCommand IniReadInt (237F) RegisterCommand IniReadFloat (2380) RegisterCommand IniReadRef (2381) RegisterCommand IniWriteInt (2382) RegisterCommand IniWriteFloat (2383) RegisterCommand IniWriteRef (2384) RegisterCommand IniKeyExists (2385) RegisterCommand IniDelKey (2386) RegisterCommand EspToString (2387) RegisterCommand IniReadString (2388) RegisterCommand IniWriteString (2389) RegisterCommand ModRefEsp (238A) RegisterCommand GetRefEsp (238B) RegisterCommand StringToRef (238C) RegisterCommand StringCmp (238D) RegisterCommand FileToString (238E) RegisterCommand StringPos (238F) RegisterCommand StringToInt (2390) RegisterCommand StringToFloat (2391) RegisterCommand ArrayCmp (2392) RegisterCommand StringMsgBox (2393) RegisterCommand StringIns (2394) RegisterCommand StringRep (2395) RegisterCommand IntToHex (2396) RegisterCommand LC (2397) SetOpcodeBase 000023B0 RegisterCommand FromTSFC (23B0) RegisterCommand ToTSFC (23B1) RegisterCommand StrLC (23B2) RegisterCommand CreateEspBook (23B3) RegisterCommand FmtString (23B4) RegisterCommand FixName (23B5) RegisterCommand ResetName (23B6) RegisterCommand HasFixedName (23B7) RegisterCommand csc (23B8) RegisterCommand StringSetNameEx (23B9) RegisterCommand StringGetNameEx (23BA) RegisterCommand FixNameEx (23BB) RegisterCommand IniGetNthSection (23BC) RegisterCommand IniSectionsCount (23BD) RegisterCommand RunBatString (23BE) RegisterCommand Halt (23BF) RegisterCommand RefToLong (23C0) RegisterCommand LongToRef (23C1) RegisterCommand FindFirstFile (23C2) RegisterCommand FindNextFile (23C3) RegisterCommand GetFileSize (23C4) RegisterCommand NewHudS (23C5) RegisterCommand DelHudS (23C6) RegisterCommand ScreenInfo (23C7) RegisterCommand HudS_X (23C8) RegisterCommand HudS_SclX (23C9) RegisterCommand HudS_Show (23CA) RegisterCommand HudS_Opac (23CB) RegisterCommand HudS_Align (23CC) RegisterCommand AutoSclHudS (23CD) RegisterCommand HudS_Y (23CE) RegisterCommand HudSEsp (23CF) RegisterCommand HudSProtect (23D0) RegisterCommand HudsInfo (23D1) RegisterCommand DelAllHudSs (23D2) RegisterCommand HudS_L (23D3) RegisterCommand rcsc (23D4) RegisterCommand HudS_SclY (23D5) RegisterCommand NewHudT (23D6) RegisterCommand DelHudT (23D7) RegisterCommand HudT_X (23D8) RegisterCommand HudT_SclX (23D9) RegisterCommand HudT_Show (23DA) RegisterCommand HudT_Opac (23DB) RegisterCommand HudT_Align (23DC) RegisterCommand AutoSclHudT (23DD) RegisterCommand HudT_Y (23DE) RegisterCommand HudTEsp (23DF) RegisterCommand HudTProtect (23E0) RegisterCommand HudTInfo (23E1) RegisterCommand DelAllHudTs (23E2) RegisterCommand HudT_L (23E3) RegisterCommand HudT_SclY (23E4) RegisterCommand PauseBox (23E5) RegisterCommand KillMenu (23E6) RegisterCommand SetHudT (23E7) RegisterCommand HudT_Text (23E8) RegisterCommand HudS_Tex (23E9) RegisterCommand SanString (23EA) RegisterCommand IsHUDEnabled (23EB) RegisterCommand IsPluggyDataReset (23EC) RegisterCommand FromOBSEString (23ED) RegisterCommand ToOBSEString (23EE) RegisterCommand HudT_Font (23EF) SetOpcodeBase 000023FF RegisterCommand PlgySpcl (23FF) plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Pluggy 00000084) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\obse_jail_fix.dll plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\obse_jail_fix.dll (00000002 jail fix 00000001) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll (00000001 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover 00004100) loaded correctly patched DeleteGameHook: C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 24 - Samantha - Imperial City Arboretum, Level 6, Playing Time 09.16.44.ess deleting C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 24 - Samantha - Imperial City Arboretum, Level 6, Playing Time 09.16.44.obse loading from C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 23 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 08.55.08.obse Reading mod list from co-save Loading strings Loading array variables plugin did not read all of its data (at 000000000002B0AB expected 000000000002B0C3) plugin has data in save file but no handler DoLoadGameHook: C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 23 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 08.55.08.ess loading from C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 23 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 08.55.08.obse Error in script 00000000 Could not extract function script in Call statement. DoSaveGameHook: C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 26 - Samantha - Imperial City, Market District, Level 6, Playing Time 08.59.14.ess saving to C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 26 - Samantha - Imperial City, Market District, Level 6, Playing Time 08.59.14.obse DoSaveGameHook: C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 27 - Samantha - Imperial City Arboretum, Level 6, Playing Time 09.19.14.ess saving to C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 27 - Samantha - Imperial City Arboretum, Level 6, Playing Time 09.19.14.obse DoSaveGameHook: C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 28 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 09.27.22.ess saving to C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 28 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 09.27.22.obse obse plugins OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6 Elys_USV.dll v? MenuQue.dll v? OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll v? obse_jail_fix.dll v? sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll Version: 4.1.0.0 Seems to be running better at realism level 3 on earlier test .obse went from roughly 180 to 420 kb but i had other stuff running as well such as Tamago Hud kill , modified contraception and maybe some other stuff . Question ------------- SHould the obse file shrink if my character waited say 2.5 days guess all sperm in body would be dead so tamgo wouldnt need to remember that data any more?? might test this waited 3 days in kovac main hall and .obse dropped from 1948 Kbto 1943Kb and .ess dropped from 257Kb to 237Kb, which is good but still higher than save shortly after save in IC just after loading Tamago Club 219KB .obse obse log OBSE: initialize (version = 20.6 010201A0) oblivion root = C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\ plugin directory = C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\ checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\Elys_USV.dll (00000001 Elys_USV 0000005D) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\MenuQue.dll SetOpcodeBase 000025D0 RegisterCommand mqSetMessageBoxSource (25D0) RegisterCommand mqGetSelectedClass (25D1) RegisterCommand mqGetHighlightedClass (25D2) RegisterCommand Kyoma_Test (25D3) RegisterCommand mqGetEnchMenuBaseItem (25D4) RegisterCommand mqGetMapMarkers (25D5) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildFloatValue (25D6) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildStringValue (25D7) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildFloatValue (25D8) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuChildStringValue (25D9) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildHasTrait (25DA) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildName (25DB) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuChildCount (25DC) RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuFloatValue (25DD) RegisterCommand mqCreateMenuStringValue (25DE) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveFloatValue (25DF) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveStringValue (25E0) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveFloatValue (25E1) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuActiveStringValue (25E2) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuActiveChildIndex (25E3) RegisterCommand InsertXML (25E4) RegisterCommand mqGetCurrentQuests (25E5) RegisterCommand mqGetCompletedQuests (25E6) RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuest (25E7) RegisterCommand mqSetActiveQuest (25E8) RegisterCommand mqGetQuestCompleted (25E9) RegisterCommand mqUncompleteQuest (25EA) RegisterCommand mqGetActiveQuestTargets (25EB) RegisterCommand InsertXMLTemplate (25EC) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalStringValue (25ED) RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalStringValue (25EE) SetOpcodeBase 000026B0 RegisterCommand mqSetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B0) RegisterCommand mqGetMenuGlobalFloatValue (26B1) RegisterCommand ShowGenericMenu (26B2) RegisterCommand ShowMagicPopupMenu (26B3) RegisterCommand ShowTrainingMenu (26B4) RegisterCommand GetGenericButtonPressed (26B5) RegisterCommand SetMenuEventHandler (26B6) RegisterCommand RemoveMenuEventHandler (26B7) RegisterCommand GetMenuEventType (26B8) RegisterCommand GetFontLoaded (26B9) RegisterCommand UpdateLocalMap (26BA) RegisterCommand GetLocalMapSeen (26BB) RegisterCommand GetWorldMapData (26BC) RegisterCommand IsTextEditInUse (26BD) RegisterCommand GetMousePos (26BE) RegisterCommand SetWorldMapData (26BF) RegisterCommand GetWorldMapDoor (26C0) RegisterCommand GetTextEditString (26C1) RegisterCommand ShowTextEditMenu (26C2) RegisterCommand SetTextEditString (26C3) RegisterCommand tile_GetFloat (26C4) RegisterCommand tile_GetString (26C5) RegisterCommand tile_HasTrait (26C6) RegisterCommand GetLoadedFonts (26C7) RegisterCommand tile_SetFloat (26C8) RegisterCommand tile_SetString (26C9) RegisterCommand tile_FadeFloat (26CA) RegisterCommand tile_GetInfo (26CB) RegisterCommand tile_GetName (26CC) RegisterCommand GetTextEditBox (26CD) RegisterCommand GetMouseImage (26CE) RegisterCommand SetMouseImage (26CF) SetOpcodeBase 000027B0 RegisterCommand GetSkillCode (27B0) RegisterCommand IncrementPlayerSkillUseF (27B1) RegisterCommand TriggerPlayerSkillUseF (27B2) RegisterCommand ModPlayerSkillExpF (27B3) RegisterCommand GetPlayerSkillUseF (27B4) RegisterCommand GetPlayerSkillAdvancesF (27B5) RegisterCommand SetPlayerSkillAdvancesF (27B6) RegisterCommand GetRequiredSkillExpF (27B7) RegisterCommand GetSkillUseIncrementF (27B8) RegisterCommand SetSkillUseIncrementF (27B9) RegisterCommand GetSkillGoverningAttributeF (27BA) RegisterCommand SetSkillGoverningAttributeF (27BB) RegisterCommand GetSkillSpecializationF (27BC) RegisterCommand SetSkillSpecializationF (27BD) plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\MenuQue.dll (00000002 OBSE_Kyoma_MenuQue 0000000B) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll SetOpcodeBase 00002330 RegisterCommand GetEsp (2330) RegisterCommand CreateArray (2331) RegisterCommand DestroyArray (2332) RegisterCommand ArraySize (2333) RegisterCommand ArrayCount (2334) RegisterCommand SetInArray (2335) RegisterCommand SetFloatInArray (2336) RegisterCommand GetInArray (2337) RegisterCommand GetTypeInArray (2338) RegisterCommand RemInArray (2339) RegisterCommand FindInArray (233A) RegisterCommand FindFloatInArray (233B) RegisterCommand SetRefInArray (233C) RegisterCommand FindRefInArray (233D) RegisterCommand CopyArray (233E) RegisterCommand ArrayEsp (233F) RegisterCommand ArrayProtect (2340) RegisterCommand FirstInArray (2341) RegisterCommand DestroyAllArrays (2342) RegisterCommand PackArray (2343) RegisterCommand CreateString (2344) RegisterCommand DestroyString (2345) RegisterCommand SetString (2346) RegisterCommand StringEsp (2347) RegisterCommand StringProtect (2348) RegisterCommand StringLen (2349) RegisterCommand DestroyAllStrings (234A) RegisterCommand StringSetName (234B) RegisterCommand StringGetName (234C) RegisterCommand StringMsg (234D) RegisterCommand StringCat (234E) RegisterCommand UserFileExists (234F) SetOpcodeBase 00002378 RegisterCommand RenFile (2378) RegisterCommand DelFile (2379) RegisterCommand StringToTxtFile (237A) RegisterCommand CopyString (237B) RegisterCommand IntToString (237C) RegisterCommand FloatToString (237D) RegisterCommand RefToString (237E) RegisterCommand IniReadInt (237F) RegisterCommand IniReadFloat (2380) RegisterCommand IniReadRef (2381) RegisterCommand IniWriteInt (2382) RegisterCommand IniWriteFloat (2383) RegisterCommand IniWriteRef (2384) RegisterCommand IniKeyExists (2385) RegisterCommand IniDelKey (2386) RegisterCommand EspToString (2387) RegisterCommand IniReadString (2388) RegisterCommand IniWriteString (2389) RegisterCommand ModRefEsp (238A) RegisterCommand GetRefEsp (238B) RegisterCommand StringToRef (238C) RegisterCommand StringCmp (238D) RegisterCommand FileToString (238E) RegisterCommand StringPos (238F) RegisterCommand StringToInt (2390) RegisterCommand StringToFloat (2391) RegisterCommand ArrayCmp (2392) RegisterCommand StringMsgBox (2393) RegisterCommand StringIns (2394) RegisterCommand StringRep (2395) RegisterCommand IntToHex (2396) RegisterCommand LC (2397) SetOpcodeBase 000023B0 RegisterCommand FromTSFC (23B0) RegisterCommand ToTSFC (23B1) RegisterCommand StrLC (23B2) RegisterCommand CreateEspBook (23B3) RegisterCommand FmtString (23B4) RegisterCommand FixName (23B5) RegisterCommand ResetName (23B6) RegisterCommand HasFixedName (23B7) RegisterCommand csc (23B8) RegisterCommand StringSetNameEx (23B9) RegisterCommand StringGetNameEx (23BA) RegisterCommand FixNameEx (23BB) RegisterCommand IniGetNthSection (23BC) RegisterCommand IniSectionsCount (23BD) RegisterCommand RunBatString (23BE) RegisterCommand Halt (23BF) RegisterCommand RefToLong (23C0) RegisterCommand LongToRef (23C1) RegisterCommand FindFirstFile (23C2) RegisterCommand FindNextFile (23C3) RegisterCommand GetFileSize (23C4) RegisterCommand NewHudS (23C5) RegisterCommand DelHudS (23C6) RegisterCommand ScreenInfo (23C7) RegisterCommand HudS_X (23C8) RegisterCommand HudS_SclX (23C9) RegisterCommand HudS_Show (23CA) RegisterCommand HudS_Opac (23CB) RegisterCommand HudS_Align (23CC) RegisterCommand AutoSclHudS (23CD) RegisterCommand HudS_Y (23CE) RegisterCommand HudSEsp (23CF) RegisterCommand HudSProtect (23D0) RegisterCommand HudsInfo (23D1) RegisterCommand DelAllHudSs (23D2) RegisterCommand HudS_L (23D3) RegisterCommand rcsc (23D4) RegisterCommand HudS_SclY (23D5) RegisterCommand NewHudT (23D6) RegisterCommand DelHudT (23D7) RegisterCommand HudT_X (23D8) RegisterCommand HudT_SclX (23D9) RegisterCommand HudT_Show (23DA) RegisterCommand HudT_Opac (23DB) RegisterCommand HudT_Align (23DC) RegisterCommand AutoSclHudT (23DD) RegisterCommand HudT_Y (23DE) RegisterCommand HudTEsp (23DF) RegisterCommand HudTProtect (23E0) RegisterCommand HudTInfo (23E1) RegisterCommand DelAllHudTs (23E2) RegisterCommand HudT_L (23E3) RegisterCommand HudT_SclY (23E4) RegisterCommand PauseBox (23E5) RegisterCommand KillMenu (23E6) RegisterCommand SetHudT (23E7) RegisterCommand HudT_Text (23E8) RegisterCommand HudS_Tex (23E9) RegisterCommand SanString (23EA) RegisterCommand IsHUDEnabled (23EB) RegisterCommand IsPluggyDataReset (23EC) RegisterCommand FromOBSEString (23ED) RegisterCommand ToOBSEString (23EE) RegisterCommand HudT_Font (23EF) SetOpcodeBase 000023FF RegisterCommand PlgySpcl (23FF) plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll (00000001 OBSE_Elys_Pluggy 00000084) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\obse_jail_fix.dll plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\obse_jail_fix.dll (00000002 jail fix 00000001) loaded correctly checking plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll plugin C:\Program Files\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\\sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll (00000001 sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover 00004100) loaded correctly patched loading from C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 28 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 09.27.22.obse Reading mod list from co-save Loading strings Loading array variables plugin did not read all of its data (at 000000000003FD8F expected 000000000003FDA7) plugin has data in save file but no handler DoLoadGameHook: C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 28 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 09.27.22.ess loading from C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 28 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 09.27.22.obse DoSaveGameHook: C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 29 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 09.30.16.ess saving to C:\Users\xc8928\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves\Save 29 - Samantha - Kovak Main Hall, Level 6, Playing Time 09.30.16.obse obse error? plugin did not read all of its data (at 000000000003FD8F expected 000000000003FDA7) <--- near bottom of log plugin has data in save file but no handler Error in script 00000000 <--- near bottom of log plugin has data in save file but no handler I was using and have installed but esp/esms not loaded hud kill and hud status bars could this cause problems?
luinil Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 tried upgrading obse pluggins menueque and pluggy but pluggy cause game crashes when i upgrade to v 132 and 128 was just as bad .Does anyone know what versions of pluggy and menuque they use with tamago without any save game bloat? on the bright side I have almost reactivated all my mods w no save game bloat , which is really nice .BUT i must have tamago!
kingkong Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 try to post your issue in this topic if you are sure it is tamago and pluggy http://www.loverslab.com/topic/13377-tamagoclub-115c-hiyokoclub110a-stuff-eng/page-11?do=findComment&comment=496609
Whacked Posted September 3, 2013 Posted September 3, 2013 I'm using Menuque 16a, and Pluggy 132, obse reports no bloating from Tamago v 1.15 for me. I get bloat from Nudeshy, but I don't see that in your load order. My only suggestion is to make sure you start a new game (old saves retain bad info sometimes), and don't worry to much about a little bloat, unless obse screams about it in your obse.log.
luinil Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 I'm using Menuque 16a, and Pluggy 132, obse reports no bloating from Tamago v 1.15 for me. I get bloat from Nudeshy, but I don't see that in your load order. My only suggestion is to make sure you start a new game (old saves retain bad info sometimes), and don't worry to much about a little bloat, unless obse screams about it in your obse.log. ok I will upgrade to pluggy 132, recently upgraded to menuque v 16 and try a new game to see if that help cause I am very close the bloat is quite small now from tamago relative to what it was .Also will try deactivating tamago news and shop as apparently they may cause promblems w tamagoHiyoko1.15./1.10. I am using tamago 1.15, hiyoko 1.10, + loversTamagoClub,hiyoko generator from tamagoHiyoko1.15/1.10+ tamago set body.I would be interested in your load order to see what tamago mods you are using for example are u using fertility clinic, topic, confide,hiyoko generator creature also?
varenne Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Are you using Tamago 1.15/ Hiyoko 1.10 along with the included HiyokoGenerator from rghost in post 17 of the thread kingkong posted? (TamagoClub 1.15c / HiyokoClub1.10a stuff ENG) I'm currently play testing rghost's versions, after having made one more script modification he has suggested. I'll be posting those soon enough, but not sure it will help your issue. And if you are running a lot of extra NPCs having sex, with longer than default sperm life, it can cause lag as each inventory for every character in the cell you are in will load to memory cache. I imagine that also gets saved to your save game too. Have you tried saving in an NPC free zone, like a player house?
luinil Posted September 4, 2013 Posted September 4, 2013 Are you using Tamago 1.15/ Hiyoko 1.10 along with the included HiyokoGenerator from rghost in post 17 of the thread kingkong posted? (TamagoClub 1.15c / HiyokoClub1.10a stuff ENG) I'm currently play testing rghost's versions, after having made one more script modification he has suggested. I'll be posting those soon enough, but not sure it will help your issue. And if you are running a lot of extra NPCs having sex, with longer than default sperm life, it can cause lag as each inventory for every character in the cell you are in will load to memory cache. I imagine that also gets saved to your save game too. Have you tried saving in an NPC free zone, like a player house? Yes i was running tamagoHiyoko1.151.10 without post 17 alt hiyokoGenerator etc .However,I have downloaded the alt hiyokoTamago stuff from post 17 , rebuilt tamago with them included but not activated then yet .Upgraded pluggy to v132 which now seem to be playing well with others. Plan to activate tamago at end of sewers and play test with upgraded version of pluggy and alt tamagoHiyoko stuff from post 17.You still need tamgoset body right - it wasnt in hiyokoTamgoClub 1.151.1o OP but I got a copy anyways.might try saving in npc free zone as well in future.play female character with player only sperm transfer, no npc.Sperm life is typically max 2.3 daysgame time.though its set to 2 in ini - perhaps my game time runs a little faster than normal?
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