Nyren Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 So I decided to come back to Skyrim and completely redid my mod list from scratch. This is the final load order after I ran it through the latest version of LOOT: Spoiler Skyrim.esm SkyrimSE.exe Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm Campfire.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm MagicDuelReborn.esm RE_RealEstate_Core.esp SexLab.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLabAroused.esm SexLab Attraction.esm BadDogSchlongCore.esm AzarHair.esm Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim SE - MCM versionPatch.esp Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp NSUTR_bugfixes.esp NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp NSUTR_improvements.esp WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp SkyrimIsWindy.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp FloraRespawnFix.esp SkyUI_SE.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp EmbersHD.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp SSE High Quality Music.esp Footprints.esp Smoking Torches And Candles.esp Beards.esp KS Hairdo's.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp Blues Skyrim.esp Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp Civil War Aftermath.esp BlackthornManor.esp Helgen Reborn.esp Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp Wind District Breezehome - Reborn.esp OBIS SE.esp Man Those Borders!.esp Inns and Taverns.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp MarriageModSE.esp Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp Immersive Weapons.esp OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp RE_RealEstate.esp hearthfireextended.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp Point The Way.esp Holidays.esp TKAA.esp Ars Metallica.esp Incognito.esp Realistic-Voice.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp sandboxcylinderheight.esp WondersofWeather.esp ShadowcloakBugFix.esp Clear Skies Fix SE.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp Aringoth Race Fix.esp TavernAIFix.esp Potema Fix.esp HiredThugsFix.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp Better Dynamic Snow Stairs Fix.esp EyesFix.esp Player Blink Fix.esp Hunters Not Bandits.esp SimplyKnock.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp FNIS.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp RaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp Sleep for Credit.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp saLa_Hairs.esp Volkihar Knight.esp Volkihar Knight - Light Armor Option.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp Spouse Daily Routine.esp Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp Master of Disguise - Joinable Factions Patch.esp Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp SMDropLitTorch.esp OrcFemaleAnimations.esp Better Dynamic Ash.esp torch shadows.esp Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp Tentapalooza.esp Brows.esp RaceMenuHH.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp One With Nature.esp HentaiCreatures.esp SLSO.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp SexLabRandomSex.esp Fertility Mode.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SLAnimLoader.esp MassMatchMakerSE.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Beastess Forsworn.esp Immersive Arousal.esp BeastessLair.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Cloaks.esp HeljarchenFarm.esp SexLab Beastess.esp Logging.esp SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp Hunterborn.esp Heljarchen Farm - Man Those Borders Compatability Patch.esp SkyfallEstate.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp Shor's Stone.esp CampfireFix.esp RLGBrumaLanterns.esp Frostfall.esp Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Ivarstead.esp Blackthorn - Hunterborn Patch.esp Blackthorn - Hearthfire Fix.esp Dawn of Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp Kynesgrove.esp Manor Roads.esp Helarchen Creek.esp Soljund's Sinkhole.esp Storefront.esp Karthwasten.esp Real Estate USSEP Patch.esp ArgonianHearthfire.esp Dragon Bridge.esp Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp Dawn of Skyrim_Storefront_Patch.esp SpousesEnhancedSE.esp No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp OrcHearthfire.esp Project Dovahen.esp KhajiitHearthfire.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Wind District BH Reborn- Dawn of Skyrim Patch.esp AmorAdvExtendedSSE.esp HearthfireGrassFix.esp RRR_NSUtR-Patch.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp Helarchen Creek - No Snow Under the Roof.esp BlackthornManorLanternsOfSkyrimPatch.esp Animal_SOS.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp MilkyObj.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp BDHoodieSchlong.esp BDLoincloth.esp MMGSchlong.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp SexLabWerewolves.esp SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp SexlabLightMeUp.esp SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp NARC SE for Vanilla.esp HornyCreatures.esp Tavern Room Doors.esp Local Fare.esp LoversComfort.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp HFE-CRF-Patch.esp Follow me for Sex.esp Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp CullingFix.esp DBM_DGE_Crossbow_Patch.esp Wind District BH Reborn- Holidays Patch.esp FNISspells.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp The Ordinary Women.esp Lords of Skyrim.esp BodySearch.esp JailRape.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Aesthetic Elisif.esp Cathedral Weathers.esp WetandCold.esp EEO CRF patch.esp EEO OBIS SE patch.esp Skysan_Icicle.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted - ESL.esp BlendedRoads.esp FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp Shout.esp S3DRocks.esp shieldsoftheholds.esp Unique Uniques.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp NB-Scars.esp JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp JS Dragon Claws - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp NARC SE patch - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp Vampire Royal Armor v3.esp Skysan_Stalhrim.esp SparklesSE.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp BSHeartlandFRF.esp HagravenSkinShaders.esp BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp RLGBrumaLanterns LoS Patch.esp skyforgedShields.esp ENB Light.esp TorchesCastShadows.esp TorchesCastShadows_WLPatch.esp Veydosebrom.esp SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp Fusax2.esp DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp DBM_DGE_Patch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_KelCrossbowPatch.esp DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp SexistGuards.esp Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp SC_hairs.esp SC_PhobosHair.esp WeddingDay.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp Bruma - Alternate Start.esp PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp CFTO.esp Darkwater Crossing.esp Falkreath.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp Whistling Mine.esp Rorikstead.esp HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp PCE - Holidays Patch.esp PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp CFTO-Lanterns.esp Whistling Mine - No Snow Under the Roof.esp CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp ELE_SSE.esp SoS_ELE_Patch.esp RAO - ELE - Alternate Start Patch.esp Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Ilinalta - RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp However, everytime I try to run the game via the SKSE64 Loader(And yes, it's up to date. And yes, I've run FNIS. I've also run SSE Edit to see if there were any conflicts or errors, but there were none. LOOT also confirms that there are no errors or incompatibilities.) it just fails to start. I see the little black SKSE box pop up for a split second, it disappears, then Mod Organizer 2 tries to initialize SkyrimSE.exe for a good minute or two before it just fails and doesn't launch at all. I'm assuming, given everything else, that it's a load order problem or there's a mod that's causing it to crash. I disabled every Oldrim mod I'm using and it changed nothing. I'm using the latest up to date versions of everything. I also have an ENB installed.
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote 4 hours ago, Nyren said: So I decided to come back to Skyrim and completely redid my mod list from scratch. This is the final load order after I ran it through the latest version of LOOT: Hide contents Skyrim.esm SkyrimSE.exe Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm Campfire.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SGHairPackBase.esm MagicDuelReborn.esm RE_RealEstate_Core.esp SexLab.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLabAroused.esm SexLab Attraction.esm BadDogSchlongCore.esm AzarHair.esm Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim SE - MCM versionPatch.esp Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp NSUTR_bugfixes.esp NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp NSUTR_improvements.esp WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp SkyrimIsWindy.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp FloraRespawnFix.esp SkyUI_SE.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp EmbersHD.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp SSE High Quality Music.esp Footprints.esp Smoking Torches And Candles.esp Beards.esp KS Hairdo's.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp HearthfireMultiKid.esp SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp Blues Skyrim.esp Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp Civil War Aftermath.esp BlackthornManor.esp Helgen Reborn.esp Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp Wind District Breezehome - Reborn.esp OBIS SE.esp Man Those Borders!.esp Inns and Taverns.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp MarriageModSE.esp Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp Immersive Weapons.esp OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp RE_RealEstate.esp hearthfireextended.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp Point The Way.esp Holidays.esp TKAA.esp Ars Metallica.esp Incognito.esp Realistic-Voice.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp sandboxcylinderheight.esp WondersofWeather.esp ShadowcloakBugFix.esp Clear Skies Fix SE.esp ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp Aringoth Race Fix.esp TavernAIFix.esp Potema Fix.esp HiredThugsFix.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp Better Dynamic Snow Stairs Fix.esp EyesFix.esp Player Blink Fix.esp Hunters Not Bandits.esp SimplyKnock.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenuSE.esp FNIS.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp RaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp Sleep for Credit.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp saLa_Hairs.esp Volkihar Knight.esp Volkihar Knight - Light Armor Option.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp Spouse Daily Routine.esp Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp Master of Disguise - Joinable Factions Patch.esp Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp SMDropLitTorch.esp OrcFemaleAnimations.esp Better Dynamic Ash.esp torch shadows.esp Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp Tentapalooza.esp Brows.esp RaceMenuHH.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp One With Nature.esp HentaiCreatures.esp SLSO.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLabDangerousNights2.esp SexLabRandomSex.esp Fertility Mode.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SLAnimLoader.esp MassMatchMakerSE.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Beastess Forsworn.esp Immersive Arousal.esp BeastessLair.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Cloaks.esp HeljarchenFarm.esp SexLab Beastess.esp Logging.esp SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp Hunterborn.esp Heljarchen Farm - Man Those Borders Compatability Patch.esp SkyfallEstate.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp Shor's Stone.esp CampfireFix.esp RLGBrumaLanterns.esp Frostfall.esp Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Ivarstead.esp Blackthorn - Hunterborn Patch.esp Blackthorn - Hearthfire Fix.esp Dawn of Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp Kynesgrove.esp Manor Roads.esp Helarchen Creek.esp Soljund's Sinkhole.esp Storefront.esp Karthwasten.esp Real Estate USSEP Patch.esp ArgonianHearthfire.esp Dragon Bridge.esp Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp Dawn of Skyrim_Storefront_Patch.esp SpousesEnhancedSE.esp No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp OrcHearthfire.esp Project Dovahen.esp KhajiitHearthfire.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Wind District BH Reborn- Dawn of Skyrim Patch.esp AmorAdvExtendedSSE.esp HearthfireGrassFix.esp RRR_NSUtR-Patch.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp Helarchen Creek - No Snow Under the Roof.esp BlackthornManorLanternsOfSkyrimPatch.esp Animal_SOS.esp AnubAnimObj.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAL_K4Anims.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp MilkyObj.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp BDHoodieSchlong.esp BDLoincloth.esp MMGSchlong.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp SexLabWerewolves.esp SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp SexlabLightMeUp.esp SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp NARC SE for Vanilla.esp HornyCreatures.esp Tavern Room Doors.esp Local Fare.esp LoversComfort.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp HFE-CRF-Patch.esp Follow me for Sex.esp Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp CullingFix.esp DBM_DGE_Crossbow_Patch.esp Wind District BH Reborn- Holidays Patch.esp FNISspells.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp The Ordinary Women.esp Lords of Skyrim.esp BodySearch.esp JailRape.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp Aesthetic Elisif.esp Cathedral Weathers.esp WetandCold.esp EEO CRF patch.esp EEO OBIS SE patch.esp Skysan_Icicle.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted - ESL.esp BlendedRoads.esp FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp Shout.esp S3DRocks.esp shieldsoftheholds.esp Unique Uniques.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp NB-Scars.esp JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp JS Dragon Claws - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp NARC SE patch - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp Vampire Royal Armor v3.esp Skysan_Stalhrim.esp SparklesSE.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp BSHeartlandFRF.esp HagravenSkinShaders.esp BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp RLGBrumaLanterns LoS Patch.esp skyforgedShields.esp ENB Light.esp TorchesCastShadows.esp TorchesCastShadows_WLPatch.esp Veydosebrom.esp SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp Fusax2.esp DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp DBM_DGE_Patch.esp DBM_IA_Patch.esp DBM_KelCrossbowPatch.esp DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp SexistGuards.esp Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp SC_hairs.esp SC_PhobosHair.esp WeddingDay.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp Bruma - Alternate Start.esp PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp CFTO.esp Darkwater Crossing.esp Falkreath.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp Whistling Mine.esp Rorikstead.esp HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp PCE - Holidays Patch.esp PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp CFTO-Lanterns.esp Whistling Mine - No Snow Under the Roof.esp CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp ELE_SSE.esp SoS_ELE_Patch.esp RAO - ELE - Alternate Start Patch.esp Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Ilinalta - RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp However, everytime I try to run the game via the SKSE64 Loader(And yes, it's up to date. And yes, I've run FNIS. I've also run SSE Edit to see if there were any conflicts or errors, but there were none. LOOT also confirms that there are no errors or incompatibilities.) it just fails to start. I see the little black SKSE box pop up for a split second, it disappears, then Mod Organizer 2 tries to initialize SkyrimSE.exe for a good minute or two before it just fails and doesn't launch at all. I'm assuming, given everything else, that it's a load order problem or there's a mod that's causing it to crash. I disabled every Oldrim mod I'm using and it changed nothing. I'm using the latest up to date versions of everything. I also have an ENB installed. How many plug-ins is that? Can you post your FNIS output? This is what FNIS generates when you run it. It usually begins with a description of your skeleton and ends with the number of animations that you successfully loaded. Simply copy and paste.
Snapdragon_ Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 That's... way over the 255 plugin limit, unless there's something in there that deals with that limit. Otherwise, you'll need to merge quite a few of those to get it down to 255.
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote 40 minutes ago, Snapdragon3.0 said: That's... way over the 255 plugin limit, unless there's something in there that deals with that limit. Otherwise, you'll need to merge quite a few of those to get it down to 255. I thought so too but I didn't know how many might be esl's.
Nyren Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Snapdragon3.0 said: That's... way over the 255 plugin limit, unless there's something in there that deals with that limit. Otherwise, you'll need to merge quite a few of those to get it down to 255. 2 hours ago, Psalam said: I thought so too but I didn't know how many might be esl's. A good portion of those are ESP's flagged as ESL's. Wrye Bash told me they qualified so I did it using SSE Edit. 4 hours ago, Psalam said: How many plug-ins is that? Can you post your FNIS output? This is what FNIS generates when you run it. It usually begins with a description of your skeleton and ends with the number of animations that you successfully loaded. Simply copy and paste. Here's the FNIS output: Spoiler FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 XXL 6/10/2019 10:05:34 AM Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.73.0 - C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE" Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ... Reading AyasatoAnims V1.0 ... Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... Reading Babo Human V1.0 ... Reading Beastess V0.1 ... Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Defeat V5 ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ... Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 9 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading Follow me for Sex V3.6 ( 1 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ... Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V1.0 ... Reading milkypack V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... >>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_NCK30_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<< Reading NCK30 V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... Reading RohZima V1.0 ... Reading SexLab V1.63 ... Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ... Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ... Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... Reading testpack V1.0 ... Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\male 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 1 sets: 16 total groups: 30 added file slots: 170 alternate files: 164 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ... Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V?.? ... Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... 12136 animations for 57 mods successfully included (character). 5627 animations for 21 mods and 42 creatures successfully included.. 1 Warning(s). 0 possible consistence issues And just to clarify, I'm using FNIS 7.4.5 XXL.
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote 6 minutes ago, Nyren said: A good portion of those are ESP's flagged as ESL's. Wrye Bash told me they qualified so I did it using SSE Edit. Here's the FNIS output: Hide contents FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 XXL 6/10/2019 10:05:34 AM Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.73.0 - C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam) Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE" Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ... Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ... Reading AyasatoAnims V1.0 ... Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... Reading Babo Human V1.0 ... Reading Beastess V0.1 ... Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Defeat V5 ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ... Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ... Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 9 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading Follow me for Sex V3.6 ( 1 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ... Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ... Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ... Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ... Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ... Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ... Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V1.0 ... Reading milkypack V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... >>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_NCK30_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<< Reading NCK30 V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... Reading RohZima V1.0 ... Reading SexLab V1.63 ... Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ... Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ... Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... Reading testpack V1.0 ... Reading XPMSE V7.2 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ... Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ... Reading znarokspack V1.0 ... All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files... 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\male 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\female Alternate Animation mods: 1 sets: 16 total groups: 30 added file slots: 170 alternate files: 164 Create Creature Behaviors ... Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ... Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ... Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ... Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ... Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ... Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ... Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ... Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ... Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ... Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ... Reading K4Anims V?.? ... Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ... Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ... Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ... 12136 animations for 57 mods successfully included (character). 5627 animations for 21 mods and 42 creatures successfully included.. 1 Warning(s). 0 possible consistence issues And just to clarify, I'm using FNIS 7.4.5 XXL. So, what we know: 1) you have the correct skeleton and it's being read (there are 115 bones) 2) you are at the limit for animations but you should be just under it - you may want to try turning one animation mod off just to see if it makes a difference 3) and most importantly, you are trying to load the LE version of MoreNastyCritters instead of the SE version. Go back and put in the correct version - it will likely fix your problem.
Nyren Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Psalam said: So, what we know: 1) you have the correct skeleton and it's being read (there are 115 bones) 2) you are at the limit for animations but you should be just under it - you may want to try turning one animation mod off just to see if it makes a difference 3) and most importantly, you are trying to load the LE version of MoreNastyCritters instead of the SE version. Go back and put in the correct version - it will likely fix your problem. I got my More Nasty Critters version from this mod page: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5464-more-nasty-critters-special-edition/ A new version was just uploaded two hours ago so I'm going to replace it with that and see if it works, but I don't think that was the problem since it is the SE version. Not sure why it comes up as LE.
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote 5 minutes ago, Nyren said: I got my More Nasty Critters version from this mod page: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5464-more-nasty-critters-special-edition/ A new version was just uploaded two hours ago so I'm going to replace it with that and see if it works, but I don't think that was the problem since it is the SE version. Not sure why it comes up as LE. I like your plan. However, if FNIS doesn't recognize it (just like when I mentioned that about the skeleton) then SE is likely not going to recognize it. I know that loading and LE version in SE (and vice versa) can lead to CTD.
Nyren Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, Psalam said: I like your plan. However, if FNIS doesn't recognize it (just like when I mentioned that about the skeleton) then SE is likely not going to recognize it. I know that loading and LE version in SE (and vice versa) can lead to CTD. It didn't work. I upgraded MNC/HC using the latest SSE upload, and I uninstalled the mod that gave the error which was not MNC.
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote 11 minutes ago, Nyren said: It didn't work. I upgraded MNC/HC using the latest SSE upload, and I uninstalled the mod that gave the error which was not MNC. Okay, time for plan B. Can you try to start your game without using MO so we can see if that is the issue.
Nyren Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, Psalam said: Okay, time for plan B. Can you try to start your game without using MO so we can see if that is the issue. I already tried that. It started.
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote Just now, Nyren said: I already tried that. It started. Good news then! Your load order and animations are all normal. You need to reload SKSE in your MO or switch mod managers or just continue to run SKSE from outside. In a recent thread @RussianPrince mentioned that this is the way in which he has always loaded his game.
Guest Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nyren said: I already tried that. It started. Yeah, don't use managers or other programs to launch SKSE. They never do it properly and it messes with SKSE's hook method. Just run skse64_loader straight from your Skyrim directory. I have mine pinned to the taskbar. 4 minutes ago, Psalam said: Good news then! Your load order and animations are all normal. You need to reload SKSE in your MO or switch mod managers or just continue to run SKSE from outside. In a recent thread @RussianPrince mentioned that this is the way in which he has always loaded his game. You called?
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote 1 minute ago, RussianPrince said: Yeah, don't use managers or other programs to launch SKSE. They never do it properly and it messes with SKSE's hook method. Just run skse64_loader straight from your Skyrim directory. I have mine pinned to the taskbar. You called? I just wanted to reiterate what you said and thought it appropriate to cite my source. I have a tremendous dislike of even the suggestion of plagiarism.
Nyren Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, RussianPrince said: Yeah, don't use managers or other programs to launch SKSE. They never do it properly and it messes with SKSE's hook method. Just run skse64_loader straight from your Skyrim directory. I have mine pinned to the taskbar. You called? Unfortunately running SKSE Loader directly doesn't work. Or rather, it does, but then none of my mods are injected into the SE directory. Mod Organizer 2 injects the files from a virtual directory when you run the game from the mod manager itself. Run the game from anywhere else and it won't inject the mods.
Guest Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Psalam said: I have a tremendous dislike of even the suggestion of plagiarism. So do I, which is why I post the DMCA permissions disclaimer at the bottom of all of my mods. 1 hour ago, Nyren said: Unfortunately running SKSE Loader directly doesn't work. Or rather, it does, but then none of my mods are injected into the SE directory. Mod Organizer 2 injects the files from a virtual directory when you run the game from the mod manager itself. Run the game from anywhere else and it won't inject the mods. that's why you manually install them directly to the game installation directly like you're fucking supposed to, as is was intended by the developers of the game. One reason I hate NMM and MO2 is that they do that and it creates even more problems. To fix your issue just manually install the mods. I've been modding/making mods since the beginning of time itself and I can tell you without any doubt that manually installing mods is the most problem free way to do so as long as you have even half of an iota of a clue of what you're doing. I still use MO to run mod installers (not MO2, because MO2 is shit) but I always copy the files straight to my Data folder. If you peruse my mods you'll notice I have a strong preference for manual installation.
Nyren Posted June 10, 2019 Author Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Psalam said: Good news then! Your load order and animations are all normal. You need to reload SKSE in your MO or switch mod managers or just continue to run SKSE from outside. In a recent thread @RussianPrince mentioned that this is the way in which he has always loaded his game. So I finally got it working. Found some logs from MO and removed the last mod it tried to load. In total I had to remove three mods: Mass Match Maker SE; Murder, Theft, & Seduction(Oldrim mod. I swore it worked before, but now it was causing the CTD so I removed it. Shame because it's one of my favorites and likely will never be ported to SE, just like Vinfamy's mods which only support his Sexlab Lite for SE.), and Wedding Day(Oldrim. This one I suspected.). Once I actually had the game loaded up it also pointed out to me that, oddly, JContainers SE was missing. Or at least, the latest version was not installed and therefore Creature Framework wasn't gonna work right, so that is now installed.
Psalam Posted June 10, 2019 Posted June 10, 2019 Quote 24 minutes ago, Nyren said: So I finally got it working. Found some logs from MO and removed the last mod it tried to load. In total I had to remove three mods: Mass Match Maker SE; Murder, Theft, & Seduction(Oldrim mod. I swore it worked before, but now it was causing the CTD so I removed it. Shame because it's one of my favorites and likely will never be ported to SE, just like Vinfamy's mods which only support his Sexlab Lite for SE.), and Wedding Day(Oldrim. This one I suspected.). Once I actually had the game loaded up it also pointed out to me that, oddly, JContainers SE was missing. Or at least, the latest version was not installed and therefore Creature Framework wasn't gonna work right, so that is now installed. I'm glad to hear it. I'm about to hit Skyrim myself.
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