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So I decided to come back to Skyrim and completely redid my mod list from scratch. This is the final load order after I ran it through the latest version of LOOT:

 

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Skyrim.esm
SkyrimSE.exe
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
BSAssets.esm
BSHeartland.esm
BS_DLC_patch.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
Campfire.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
daymoyl.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
MagicDuelReborn.esm
RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
SexLab.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
SexLab Attraction.esm
BadDogSchlongCore.esm
AzarHair.esm
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim SE - MCM versionPatch.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
NSUTR_bugfixes.esp
NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp
NSUTR_improvements.esp
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
SkyrimIsWindy.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
EmbersHD.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp
Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp
SSE High Quality Music.esp
Footprints.esp
Smoking Torches And Candles.esp
Beards.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
Blues Skyrim.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
Civil War Aftermath.esp
BlackthornManor.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp
Wind District Breezehome - Reborn.esp
OBIS SE.esp
Man Those Borders!.esp
Inns and Taverns.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
MarriageModSE.esp
Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp
RE_RealEstate.esp
hearthfireextended.esp
SexLab More Creatures.esp
Point The Way.esp
Holidays.esp
TKAA.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
Incognito.esp
Realistic-Voice.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
ShadowcloakBugFix.esp
Clear Skies Fix SE.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
Aringoth Race Fix.esp
TavernAIFix.esp
Potema Fix.esp
HiredThugsFix.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp
Better Dynamic Snow Stairs Fix.esp
EyesFix.esp
Player Blink Fix.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
FNIS.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Sleep for Credit.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
saLa_Hairs.esp
Volkihar Knight.esp
Volkihar Knight - Light Armor Option.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
Spouse Daily Routine.esp
Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp
Master of Disguise - Joinable Factions Patch.esp
Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
OrcFemaleAnimations.esp
Better Dynamic Ash.esp
torch shadows.esp
Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp
HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp
Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp
Tentapalooza.esp
Brows.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
One With Nature.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
SLSO.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
SexLabRandomSex.esp
Fertility Mode.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
MassMatchMakerSE.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
Beastess Forsworn.esp
Immersive Arousal.esp
BeastessLair.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
HeljarchenFarm.esp
SexLab Beastess.esp
Logging.esp
SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Heljarchen Farm - Man Those Borders Compatability Patch.esp
SkyfallEstate.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Shor's Stone.esp
CampfireFix.esp
RLGBrumaLanterns.esp
Frostfall.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Ivarstead.esp
Blackthorn - Hunterborn Patch.esp
Blackthorn - Hearthfire Fix.esp
Dawn of Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
DBM_IW_Patch.esp
Kynesgrove.esp
Manor Roads.esp
Helarchen Creek.esp
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
Storefront.esp
Karthwasten.esp
Real Estate USSEP Patch.esp
ArgonianHearthfire.esp
Dragon Bridge.esp
Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
Dawn of Skyrim_Storefront_Patch.esp
SpousesEnhancedSE.esp
No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
OrcHearthfire.esp
Project Dovahen.esp
KhajiitHearthfire.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Wind District BH Reborn- Dawn of Skyrim Patch.esp
AmorAdvExtendedSSE.esp
HearthfireGrassFix.esp
RRR_NSUtR-Patch.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp
Helarchen Creek - No Snow Under the Roof.esp
BlackthornManorLanternsOfSkyrimPatch.esp
Animal_SOS.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAL_K4Anims.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
MilkyObj.esp
RohZima_AnimObjects.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
BDHoodieSchlong.esp
BDLoincloth.esp
MMGSchlong.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
SexLabWerewolves.esp
SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp
SexlabLightMeUp.esp
SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp
NARC SE for Vanilla.esp
HornyCreatures.esp
Tavern Room Doors.esp
Local Fare.esp
LoversComfort.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
HFE-CRF-Patch.esp
Follow me for Sex.esp
Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp
Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
CullingFix.esp
DBM_DGE_Crossbow_Patch.esp
Wind District BH Reborn- Holidays Patch.esp
FNISspells.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
The Ordinary Women.esp
Lords of Skyrim.esp
BodySearch.esp
JailRape.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
Aesthetic Elisif.esp
Cathedral Weathers.esp
WetandCold.esp
EEO CRF patch.esp
EEO OBIS SE patch.esp
Skysan_Icicle.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted - ESL.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp
Shout.esp
S3DRocks.esp
shieldsoftheholds.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
NB-Scars.esp
JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp
JS Dragon Claws - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
NARC SE patch - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
Vampire Royal Armor v3.esp
Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
SparklesSE.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
BSHeartlandFRF.esp
HagravenSkinShaders.esp
BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp
RLGBrumaLanterns LoS Patch.esp
skyforgedShields.esp
ENB Light.esp
TorchesCastShadows.esp
TorchesCastShadows_WLPatch.esp
Veydosebrom.esp
SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp
Fusax2.esp
DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
DBM_DGE_Patch.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
DBM_KelCrossbowPatch.esp
DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
SexistGuards.esp
Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp
Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
skyforgedWeapons.esp
SC_hairs.esp
SC_PhobosHair.esp
WeddingDay.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp
Bruma - Alternate Start.esp
PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
CFTO.esp
Darkwater Crossing.esp
Falkreath.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
Whistling Mine.esp
Rorikstead.esp
HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp
PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp
PCE - Holidays Patch.esp
PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp
CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp
HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp
CFTO-Lanterns.esp
Whistling Mine - No Snow Under the Roof.esp
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp
PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp
ELE_SSE.esp
SoS_ELE_Patch.esp
RAO - ELE - Alternate Start Patch.esp
Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Ilinalta - RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

However, everytime I try to run the game via the SKSE64 Loader(And yes, it's up to date. And yes, I've run FNIS. I've also run SSE Edit to see if there were any conflicts or errors, but there were none. LOOT also confirms that there are no errors or incompatibilities.) it just fails to start. I see the little black SKSE box pop up for a split second, it disappears, then Mod Organizer 2 tries to initialize SkyrimSE.exe for a good minute or two before it just fails and doesn't launch at all. I'm assuming, given everything else, that it's a load order problem or there's a mod that's causing it to crash. I disabled every Oldrim mod I'm using and it changed nothing. I'm using the latest up to date versions of everything. I also have an ENB installed.

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4 hours ago, Nyren said:

So I decided to come back to Skyrim and completely redid my mod list from scratch. This is the final load order after I ran it through the latest version of LOOT:

 

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Skyrim.esm
SkyrimSE.exe
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
BSAssets.esm
BSHeartland.esm
BS_DLC_patch.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
Campfire.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
daymoyl.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
MagicDuelReborn.esm
RE_RealEstate_Core.esp
SexLab.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
SexLab Attraction.esm
BadDogSchlongCore.esm
AzarHair.esm
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim SE - MCM versionPatch.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Lanterns of Skyrim Patch SSE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
NSUTR_bugfixes.esp
NSUTR_groundsnow_mesh_fixes.esp
NSUTR_improvements.esp
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp
Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul - Skyrim.esp
Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
SkyrimIsWindy.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
EmbersHD.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp
Less Tedious Thieves Guild.esp
SSE High Quality Music.esp
Footprints.esp
Smoking Torches And Candles.esp
Beards.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
RealisticRoomRental.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
Blues Skyrim.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
Civil War Aftermath.esp
BlackthornManor.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Improved Adoptions MERGED.esp
Wind District Breezehome - Reborn.esp
OBIS SE.esp
Man Those Borders!.esp
Inns and Taverns.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
MarriageModSE.esp
Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
SpiceOfLife - OrcLStrongholds.esp
RE_RealEstate.esp
hearthfireextended.esp
SexLab More Creatures.esp
Point The Way.esp
Holidays.esp
TKAA.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
Incognito.esp
Realistic-Voice.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
ShadowcloakBugFix.esp
Clear Skies Fix SE.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
Aringoth Race Fix.esp
TavernAIFix.esp
Potema Fix.esp
HiredThugsFix.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Better Dynamic Snow - NSUTR Patch.esp
Better Dynamic Snow Stairs Fix.esp
EyesFix.esp
Player Blink Fix.esp
Hunters Not Bandits.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
FNIS.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
Sleep for Credit.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
saLa_Hairs.esp
Volkihar Knight.esp
Volkihar Knight - Light Armor Option.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
Spouse Daily Routine.esp
Master of Disguise - Special Edition.esp
Master of Disguise - Joinable Factions Patch.esp
Torches Ignite Oil - Shock Edition.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
OrcFemaleAnimations.esp
Better Dynamic Ash.esp
torch shadows.esp
Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp
HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp
Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp
Tentapalooza.esp
Brows.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
One With Nature.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
SLSO.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
SexLabRandomSex.esp
Fertility Mode.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
MassMatchMakerSE.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
Beastess Forsworn.esp
Immersive Arousal.esp
BeastessLair.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
Cloaks.esp
HeljarchenFarm.esp
SexLab Beastess.esp
Logging.esp
SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp
DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Heljarchen Farm - Man Those Borders Compatability Patch.esp
SkyfallEstate.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Shor's Stone.esp
CampfireFix.esp
RLGBrumaLanterns.esp
Frostfall.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Ivarstead.esp
Blackthorn - Hunterborn Patch.esp
Blackthorn - Hearthfire Fix.esp
Dawn of Skyrim_Holidays_Patch.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
DBM_IW_Patch.esp
Kynesgrove.esp
Manor Roads.esp
Helarchen Creek.esp
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
Storefront.esp
Karthwasten.esp
Real Estate USSEP Patch.esp
ArgonianHearthfire.esp
Dragon Bridge.esp
Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
Dawn of Skyrim_Storefront_Patch.esp
SpousesEnhancedSE.esp
No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
OrcHearthfire.esp
Project Dovahen.esp
KhajiitHearthfire.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Wind District BH Reborn- Dawn of Skyrim Patch.esp
AmorAdvExtendedSSE.esp
HearthfireGrassFix.esp
RRR_NSUtR-Patch.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp
Helarchen Creek - No Snow Under the Roof.esp
BlackthornManorLanternsOfSkyrimPatch.esp
Animal_SOS.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAL_K4Anims.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
MilkyObj.esp
RohZima_AnimObjects.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
BDHoodieSchlong.esp
BDLoincloth.esp
MMGSchlong.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
SexLabWerewolves.esp
SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp
SexlabLightMeUp.esp
SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
Bijin_AIO-SV 2018.esp
NARC SE for Vanilla.esp
HornyCreatures.esp
Tavern Room Doors.esp
Local Fare.esp
LoversComfort.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
Dawnguard&VolkiharArtifactsQuests.esp
HFE-CRF-Patch.esp
Follow me for Sex.esp
Forge Water Fix - CRF Patch.esp
Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp
CullingFix.esp
DBM_DGE_Crossbow_Patch.esp
Wind District BH Reborn- Holidays Patch.esp
FNISspells.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
The Ordinary Women.esp
Lords of Skyrim.esp
BodySearch.esp
JailRape.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
Aesthetic Elisif.esp
Cathedral Weathers.esp
WetandCold.esp
EEO CRF patch.esp
EEO OBIS SE patch.esp
Skysan_Icicle.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted - ESL.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp
Shout.esp
S3DRocks.esp
shieldsoftheholds.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
NB-Scars.esp
JS Barenziah SE - Johnskyrim.esp
JS Dragon Claws - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
NARC SE patch - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
Vampire Royal Armor v3.esp
Skysan_Stalhrim.esp
SparklesSE.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
BSHeartlandFRF.esp
HagravenSkinShaders.esp
BSHeartland TKAA Patch.esp
RLGBrumaLanterns LoS Patch.esp
skyforgedShields.esp
ENB Light.esp
TorchesCastShadows.esp
TorchesCastShadows_WLPatch.esp
Veydosebrom.esp
SoS_Cathedral_Patch.esp
Fusax2.esp
DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
DBM_Cloaks_Patch.esp
DBM_DGE_Patch.esp
DBM_IA_Patch.esp
DBM_KelCrossbowPatch.esp
DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
SexistGuards.esp
Qw_ArsMetallica_FloraRespawnFix Patch.esp
Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp
Qw_TheOrdinaryWomen_CRF Patch.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
skyforgedWeapons.esp
SC_hairs.esp
SC_PhobosHair.esp
WeddingDay.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Alternate Start LAL TKAA Patch.esp
Bruma - Alternate Start.esp
PCE - Live Another Life Patch.esp
Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
CFTO.esp
Darkwater Crossing.esp
Falkreath.esp
Provincial Courier Service.esp
Whistling Mine.esp
Rorikstead.esp
HelgenReborn+CFTO.esp
PCE - USSEP+CRF Patch.esp
PCE - Holidays Patch.esp
PCE - No Custom Music patch.esp
PCE - Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch.esp
CFTO - Arthmoor Danwstar Patch.esp
HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp
CFTO-Lanterns.esp
Whistling Mine - No Snow Under the Roof.esp
CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp
PCE - Marked Droppable Barenziah Stones.esp
ELE_SSE.esp
SoS_ELE_Patch.esp
RAO - ELE - Alternate Start Patch.esp
Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Ilinalta - RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

However, everytime I try to run the game via the SKSE64 Loader(And yes, it's up to date. And yes, I've run FNIS. I've also run SSE Edit to see if there were any conflicts or errors, but there were none. LOOT also confirms that there are no errors or incompatibilities.) it just fails to start. I see the little black SKSE box pop up for a split second, it disappears, then Mod Organizer 2 tries to initialize SkyrimSE.exe for a good minute or two before it just fails and doesn't launch at all. I'm assuming, given everything else, that it's a load order problem or there's a mod that's causing it to crash. I disabled every Oldrim mod I'm using and it changed nothing. I'm using the latest up to date versions of everything. I also have an ENB installed.

 

How many plug-ins is that?

 

Can you post your FNIS output? This is what FNIS generates when you run it. It usually begins with a description of your skeleton and ends with the number of animations that you successfully loaded. Simply copy and paste.

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That's... way over the 255 plugin limit, unless there's something in there that deals with that limit. Otherwise, you'll need to merge quite a few of those to get it down to 255.

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40 minutes ago, Snapdragon3.0 said:

That's... way over the 255 plugin limit, unless there's something in there that deals with that limit. Otherwise, you'll need to merge quite a few of those to get it down to 255.

 

I thought so too but I didn't know how many might be esl's.

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3 hours ago, Snapdragon3.0 said:

That's... way over the 255 plugin limit, unless there's something in there that deals with that limit. Otherwise, you'll need to merge quite a few of those to get it down to 255.

 

2 hours ago, Psalam said:

I thought so too but I didn't know how many might be esl's.

A good portion of those are ESP's flagged as ESL's. Wrye Bash told me they qualified so I did it using SSE Edit.

 

4 hours ago, Psalam said:

How many plug-ins is that?

 

Can you post your FNIS output? This is what FNIS generates when you run it. It usually begins with a description of your skeleton and ends with the number of animations that you successfully loaded. Simply copy and paste.

Here's the FNIS output:


 

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FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 XXL   6/10/2019 10:05:34 AM
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.73.0 - C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"
Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE"

Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ...
Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ...
Reading AyasatoAnims V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Human V1.0 ...
Reading Beastess V0.1 ...
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Defeat V5  ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 9 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading Follow me for Sex V3.6  ( 1 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ...
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...
Reading K4Anims V1.0 ...
Reading milkypack V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_NCK30_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading NCK30 V1.0 ...
Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ...
Reading RohZima V1.0 ...
Reading SexLab V1.63 ...
Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ...
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...
Reading testpack V1.0 ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00  ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading znarokspack V1.0 ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\male
 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\female
Alternate Animation mods: 1 sets: 16 total groups: 30 added file slots: 170 alternate files: 164

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...
Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...
Reading K4Anims V?.? ...
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...

 12136 animations for 57 mods successfully included (character).
 5627 animations for 21 mods and 42 creatures successfully included..
 1 Warning(s).

 0 possible consistence issues


 

And just to clarify, I'm using FNIS 7.4.5 XXL.

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6 minutes ago, Nyren said:

 

A good portion of those are ESP's flagged as ESL's. Wrye Bash told me they qualified so I did it using SSE Edit.

 

Here's the FNIS output:


 

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FNIS Behavior V7.4.5 XXL   6/10/2019 10:05:34 AM
Skyrim SE 64bit: 1.5.73.0 - C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\ (Steam)

Skeleton(hkx) female: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)   male: XPMS2HDT (115 bones)
Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations"
Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix"
Patch: "HKX File Compatibility Check Skyrim/SSE"

Reading AnimationsByLeito V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Aggressive V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Furniture V1.0 ...
Reading AnimationsByMike24 V1.0 ...
Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Anubs Human V1.0 ...
Reading AyasatoAnims V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Human V1.0 ...
Reading Beastess V0.1 ...
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_Human V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_HumanFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Defeat V5  ( 0 furniture, 2 offset, 3 paired, 1 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading FNISBase V7.4.5 ...
Reading FNISCreatureVersion V7.0 ...
Reading FNISSpells V5.0.1  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 9 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading Follow me for Sex V3.6  ( 1 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading FunnyBizBeastly V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizBound V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFC V10.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFemDom V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFun V12.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizGroup V8.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizLover V7.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMolag V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMtb V3.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizNecro V10.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizRape V11.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizUn V12.0 ...
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...
Reading K4Anims V1.0 ...
Reading milkypack V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
>>Warning: \character\behaviors\FNIS_NCK30_Behavior.hkx not Skyrim SE compatible<<
Reading NCK30 V1.0 ...
Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ...
Reading RohZima V1.0 ...
Reading SexLab V1.63 ...
Reading SexLabAP V1.63 ...
Reading SexLabAroused V2.9 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading SexLabTDFAggressiveProstitution V?.? ...
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...
Reading testpack V1.0 ...
Reading XPMSE V7.2  ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 164 alternate animations) ...
Reading ZaZAnimationPack V7.00  ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 chair, 0 alternate animations) ...
Reading znarokspack V1.0 ...

All Anim Lists scanned. Generating Behavior Files...
 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\male
 17 GENDER modifications for Animations\female
Alternate Animation mods: 1 sets: 16 total groups: 30 added file slots: 170 alternate files: 164

Create Creature Behaviors ...
Reading HCOSWildlife V1.0 ...
Reading MoreNastyCritters V1.0 ...
Reading Anubs Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureBeasts V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizFC V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizMC V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSBestiality V1.0 ...
Reading NibblesAnims V1.0 ...
Reading SexLabCreature V1.63 ...
Reading AnimationsByLeito_Creatures V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureHumanoids V1.0 ...
Reading FunnyBizCB V1.0 ...
Reading Babo Creature V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureFurniture V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureInsects V1.0 ...
Reading Billyy_CreatureMisc V1.0 ...
Reading K4Anims V?.? ...
Reading SH_animFurn V1.0 ...
Reading HCOSVore V1.0 ...
Reading SRBCreatures V1.0 ...

 12136 animations for 57 mods successfully included (character).
 5627 animations for 21 mods and 42 creatures successfully included..
 1 Warning(s).

 0 possible consistence issues

 

 

 

 

And just to clarify, I'm using FNIS 7.4.5 XXL.

 

So, what we know:

 

1) you have the correct skeleton and it's being read (there are 115 bones)

2) you are at the limit for animations but you should be just under it - you may want to try turning one animation mod off just to see if it makes a difference

3) and most importantly, you are trying to load the LE version of MoreNastyCritters instead of the SE version. Go back and put in the correct version - it will likely fix your problem.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Psalam said:

So, what we know:

 

1) you have the correct skeleton and it's being read (there are 115 bones)

2) you are at the limit for animations but you should be just under it - you may want to try turning one animation mod off just to see if it makes a difference

3) and most importantly, you are trying to load the LE version of MoreNastyCritters instead of the SE version. Go back and put in the correct version - it will likely fix your problem.

I got my More Nasty Critters version from this mod page: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5464-more-nasty-critters-special-edition/

 

A new version was just uploaded two hours ago so I'm going to replace it with that and see if it works, but I don't think that was the problem since it is the SE version. Not sure why it comes up as LE.

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5 minutes ago, Nyren said:

I got my More Nasty Critters version from this mod page: https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5464-more-nasty-critters-special-edition/

 

A new version was just uploaded two hours ago so I'm going to replace it with that and see if it works, but I don't think that was the problem since it is the SE version. Not sure why it comes up as LE.

 

I like your plan. However, if FNIS doesn't recognize it (just like when I mentioned that about the skeleton) then SE is likely not going to recognize it. I know that loading and LE version in SE (and vice versa) can lead to CTD.

Posted
30 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I like your plan. However, if FNIS doesn't recognize it (just like when I mentioned that about the skeleton) then SE is likely not going to recognize it. I know that loading and LE version in SE (and vice versa) can lead to CTD.

It didn't work. I upgraded MNC/HC using the latest SSE upload, and I uninstalled the mod that gave the error which was not MNC.

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11 minutes ago, Nyren said:

It didn't work. I upgraded MNC/HC using the latest SSE upload, and I uninstalled the mod that gave the error which was not MNC.

 

Okay, time for plan B. Can you try to start your game without using MO so we can see if that is the issue.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Okay, time for plan B. Can you try to start your game without using MO so we can see if that is the issue.

I already tried that. It started.

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Just now, Nyren said:

I already tried that. It started.

 

Good news then! Your load order and animations are all normal. You need to reload SKSE in your MO or switch mod managers or just continue to run SKSE from outside. In a recent thread @RussianPrince mentioned that this is the way in which he has always loaded his game.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Nyren said:

I already tried that. It started.

Yeah, don't use managers or other programs to launch SKSE. They never do it properly and it messes with SKSE's hook method. Just run skse64_loader straight from your Skyrim directory. I have mine pinned to the taskbar.
 

4 minutes ago, Psalam said:

Good news then! Your load order and animations are all normal. You need to reload SKSE in your MO or switch mod managers or just continue to run SKSE from outside. In a recent thread @RussianPrince mentioned that this is the way in which he has always loaded his game.

You called?

Posted
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1 minute ago, RussianPrince said:

Yeah, don't use managers or other programs to launch SKSE. They never do it properly and it messes with SKSE's hook method. Just run skse64_loader straight from your Skyrim directory. I have mine pinned to the taskbar.
 

You called?

 

I just wanted to reiterate what you said and thought it appropriate to cite my source. I have a tremendous dislike of even the suggestion of plagiarism.

Posted
25 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

Yeah, don't use managers or other programs to launch SKSE. They never do it properly and it messes with SKSE's hook method. Just run skse64_loader straight from your Skyrim directory. I have mine pinned to the taskbar.
 

You called?

Unfortunately running SKSE Loader directly doesn't work. Or rather, it does, but then none of my mods are injected into the SE directory. Mod Organizer 2 injects the files from a virtual directory when you run the game from the mod manager itself. Run the game from anywhere else and it won't inject the mods.

Posted
1 hour ago, Psalam said:

I have a tremendous dislike of even the suggestion of plagiarism.

So do I, which is why I post the DMCA permissions disclaimer at the bottom of all of my mods.
 

1 hour ago, Nyren said:

Unfortunately running SKSE Loader directly doesn't work. Or rather, it does, but then none of my mods are injected into the SE directory. Mod Organizer 2 injects the files from a virtual directory when you run the game from the mod manager itself. Run the game from anywhere else and it won't inject the mods.

that's why you manually install them directly to the game installation directly like you're fucking supposed to, as is was intended by the developers of the game. One reason I hate NMM and MO2 is that they do that and it creates even more problems.

To fix your issue just manually install the mods. I've been modding/making mods since the beginning of time itself and I can tell you without any doubt that manually installing mods is the most problem free way to do so as long as you have even half of an iota of a clue of what you're doing.

I still use MO to run mod installers (not MO2, because MO2 is shit) but I always copy the files straight to my Data folder.

If you peruse my mods you'll notice I have a strong preference for manual installation.

Posted
2 hours ago, Psalam said:

Good news then! Your load order and animations are all normal. You need to reload SKSE in your MO or switch mod managers or just continue to run SKSE from outside. In a recent thread @RussianPrince mentioned that this is the way in which he has always loaded his game.

So I finally got it working. Found some logs from MO and removed the last mod it tried to load. In total I had to remove three mods: Mass Match Maker SE; Murder, Theft, & Seduction(Oldrim mod. I swore it worked before, but now it was causing the CTD so I removed it. Shame because it's one of my favorites and likely will never be ported to SE, just like Vinfamy's mods which only support his Sexlab Lite for SE.), and Wedding Day(Oldrim. This one I suspected.). Once I actually had the game loaded up it also pointed out to me that, oddly, JContainers SE was missing. Or at least, the latest version was not installed and therefore Creature Framework wasn't gonna work right, so that is now installed.

Posted
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24 minutes ago, Nyren said:

So I finally got it working. Found some logs from MO and removed the last mod it tried to load. In total I had to remove three mods: Mass Match Maker SE; Murder, Theft, & Seduction(Oldrim mod. I swore it worked before, but now it was causing the CTD so I removed it. Shame because it's one of my favorites and likely will never be ported to SE, just like Vinfamy's mods which only support his Sexlab Lite for SE.), and Wedding Day(Oldrim. This one I suspected.). Once I actually had the game loaded up it also pointed out to me that, oddly, JContainers SE was missing. Or at least, the latest version was not installed and therefore Creature Framework wasn't gonna work right, so that is now installed.

 

I'm glad to hear it. I'm about to hit Skyrim myself.

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