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Hey guys,

 

I don't know why but MNC is making my game crash, I know it's MNC cuz I uninstalled it and since then, no more crashes !  (I tried it on a new save). I also tried to disable the others mods to see if there was any conflicts, but still CTD if MNC is activated.

Any idea ?

Edit : I forgot to tell you that I am using MO2.

 

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Posted
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28 minutes ago, ClaydFr said:

Hey guys,

 

I don't know why but MNC is making my game crash, I know it's MNC cuz I uninstalled it and since then, no more crashes !  (I tried it on a new save). I also tried to disable the others mods to see if there was any conflicts, but still CTD if MNC is activated.

Any idea ?

Edit : I forgot to tell you that I am using MO2.

 

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  3  3     HearthFires.esm
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  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
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 39 27     Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
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I assume (since it's a mesh issue) that the problem with MNC is the same here on SE as it is on LE. On LE there is an issue with the horse cocks. Since the mesh is corrupted you get CTD whenever you get near a horse. MadMansGun gives a workaround on his modpage. You can also use an older version (if you can find one). Finally, if you load a mod that provides animal cocks after MNC (such as Animated Beast Cocks) it will overwrite the corrupted mesh and things will work normally.

 

Good luck and happy hunting!

 

(Oh, and MMG is working hard on this and is very frustrated by this issue. I wouldn't pester him with it because he's aware).

Posted
15 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I assume (since it's a mesh issue) that the problem with MNC is the same here on SE as it is on LE. On LE there is an issue with the horse cocks. Since the mesh is corrupted you get CTD whenever you get near a horse. MadMansGun gives a workaround on his modpage. You can also use an older version (if you can find one). Finally, if you load a mod that provides animal cocks after MNC (such as Animated Beast Cocks) it will overwrite the corrupted mesh and things will work normally.

 

Good luck and happy hunting!

 

(Oh, and MMG is working hard on this and is very frustrated by this issue. I wouldn't pester him with it because he's aware).

Well actually, even with no horse in the area I am having a CTD. In Helgen keep for example. (Maybe spiders and bear are the cause ?). Btw, is Animated beast cocks working on SSE ?

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3 minutes ago, ClaydFr said:

Well actually, even with no horse in the area I am having a CTD. In Helgen keep for example. (Maybe spiders and bear are the cause ?). Btw, is Animated beast cocks working on SSE ?

 

I do not see that it is available on SSE. So, you can use an older version of MNC OR you can find another mod that might change the cock textures and load it after MNC.

Also, without being mean, you may want to look at my blog regarding navigating LL for newcomers. The second (most recent post) will help walk you through looking for things like that. The link is in my signature if you're interested.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I do not see that it is available on SSE. So, you can use an older version of MNC OR you can find another mod that might change the cock textures and load it after MNC.

Also, without being mean, you may want to look at my blog regarding navigating LL for newcomers. The second (most recent post) will help walk you through looking for things like that. The link is in my signature if you're interested.

It's not my first time on LL, I just didn't post until now ! Well, I tried creature schlong, animal SOS, BDIC.. Not working, I really don't understand.

Posted
1 hour ago, ClaydFr said:

Hey guys,

 

I don't know why but MNC is making my game crash, I know it's MNC cuz I uninstalled it and since then, no more crashes !  (I tried it on a new save). I also tried to disable the others mods to see if there was any conflicts, but still CTD if MNC is activated.

Any idea ?

Edit : I forgot to tell you that I am using MO2.

are you sure you have the SSE version of MNC? using the wrong version will crash your game (the SLE nif files are not compatible with SSE and will make it crash)

 

56 minutes ago, Psalam said:

I assume (since it's a mesh issue) that the problem with MNC is the same here on SE as it is on LE. On LE there is an issue with the horse cocks. Since the mesh is corrupted you get CTD whenever you get near a horse. MadMansGun gives a workaround on his modpage. You can also use an older version (if you can find one). Finally, if you load a mod that provides animal cocks after MNC (such as Animated Beast Cocks) it will overwrite the corrupted mesh and things will work normally.

 

Good luck and happy hunting!

 

(Oh, and MMG is working hard on this and is very frustrated by this issue. I wouldn't pester him with it because he's aware).

1. MNCSE is still on v11.4c (no animated penises/skeleton.hkx files)

2. the SLE crash problem is caused by "crash fixes v12" not liking the skeleton.hkx files, the skeleton.nif files and other meshes are perfectly fine.

Posted
Just now, MadMansGun said:

are you sure you have the SSE version of MNC? using the wrong version will crash your game (the SLE nif files are not compatible with SSE and will make it crash)

Yes, I am using MNC 11.4CSE, and it's the only mod causing CTD. I even tried to reinstall my game and download MNC again just in case, still crashing when i am activating it. ?

Posted
28 minutes ago, ClaydFr said:

Yes, I am using MNC 11.4CSE, and it's the only mod causing CTD. I even tried to reinstall my game and download MNC again just in case, still crashing when i am activating it. ?

have you tried deleting the dll file? (Data\SKSE\Plugins\SetVehicleFixPlugin.dll)

Posted
10 minutes ago, MadMansGun said:

have you tried deleting the dll file? (Data\SKSE\Plugins\SetVehicleFixPlugin.dll)

Yep I did it, I tried a lot of things. :/

Is there a conflict with one of my mods ?

Posted
2 hours ago, ClaydFr said:

Is there a conflict with one of my mods ?

i don't see anything that i know of, the only mod that stands out is Immersive Creatures but all that would do is make some creatures not have dicks (unless you install bad dog's addon for it)

Posted
17 hours ago, MadMansGun said:

i don't see anything that i know of, the only mod that stands out is Immersive Creatures but all that would do is make some creatures not have dicks (unless you install bad dog's addon for it)

I installed BDIC, I really don't understand, I love MNC, and suddenly it's causing CTD. :/ 

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Posted (edited)

Hey there, I'm having a problem where when MNC is turned on it's crashing my game right off the bat. I'm not an avid modder so I'm not exactly sure what to do. The option for MNC in my MCM is still popping up even when turned off but it won't show animal cocks whatsoever. Also, I'm using the LE version of skyrim and the LE mod to go along with it. For whatever reason I couldn't get the mod to work in SE at all, even when using the SE mod.

Edited by bladejoy
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  • 3 months later...
Posted

There's a bug (or used to be?) in CreatureFramework (or MNC) where if you have the range of the cloak set at default (or possibly higher) it will CTD quite often. In my case it seemed to be related to bears.

 

My fix for this appears to have been to set the PrfCloakRange value to 6144. In my notes I also have that MNC apparently overrides CF and changes how this value works. If this is the case for you as well then the equivalent value for 6144 is 288.

 

Also, for some reason I've disabled this fix, meaning I've found a better fix at some point but I do not recall what it was. If however this is the issue you're having, the fix above is sufficient.

Posted
On 8/15/2022 at 11:41 AM, traison said:

There's a bug (or used to be?) in CreatureFramework (or MNC) where if you have the range of the cloak set at default (or possibly higher) it will CTD quite often. In my case it seemed to be related to bears.

 

My fix for this appears to have been to set the PrfCloakRange value to 6144. In my notes I also have that MNC apparently overrides CF and changes how this value works. If this is the case for you as well then the equivalent value for 6144 is 288.

 

where would i put prfcloakrange? i've looked all over the internet and LL and can't find where to put it. and i can't find it already in my ini's.

Posted

Its the variable name for the cloak range setting in CF's MCM. There should only be one range setting there, if not, use your imagination I guess.

Posted
4 minutes ago, traison said:

Its the variable name for the cloak range setting in CF's MCM. There should only be one range setting there, if not, use your imagination I guess.

oh, i thought it was an ini setting. well shoot, i can't even get my game to launch for some reason and nobody's responded yet to the post i made asking for help to see if they could figure out if something in my load order was causing it, because i'm stumped.

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