ClaydFr Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 Hey guys,  I don't know why but MNC is making my game crash, I know it's MNC cuz I uninstalled it and since then, no more crashes ! (I tried it on a new save). I also tried to disable the others mods to see if there was any conflicts, but still CTD if MNC is activated. Any idea ? Edit : I forgot to tell you that I am using MO2.  Spoiler  0 0    Skyrim.esm  1 1    Update.esm  2 2    Dawnguard.esm  3 3    HearthFires.esm  4 4    Dragonborn.esm  5 5    Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp  6 6    SexLab.esm  7 7    SexLabAroused.esm  8 8    CreatureFramework.esm  9 9    ApachiiHair.esm  10 a    ApachiiHairFemales.esm  11 b    Paradise_City_RESOURCES.esm  12 c    ApachiiHairMales.esm  13 d    Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm  14 e    Devious Devices - Assets.esm  15 f    Devious Devices - Integration.esm  16 10    Devious Devices - Expansion.esm  17 11    RaceCompatibility.esm  18 12    ZaZAnimationPack.esm  19 13    daymoyl.esm  20 14    hdtHighHeel.esm  21 15    battlenymphs.esm  22 16    SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp  23 17    Immersive Wenches.esp  24 18    SkyUI_SE.esp  25 19    RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp  26 1a    Vivid WeathersSE.esp  27 1b    UIExtensions.esp  28 1c    FNIS.esp  29 1d    SexLabTools.esp  30 1e    MassMatchMakerSE.esp  31 1f    SLAnimLoader.esp  32 20    Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp  33 21    SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp  34 22    icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp  35 23    Animallica.esp  36 24    CBBE.esp  37 25    RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp  38 26    FasterHorses.esp  39 27    Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp  40 28    RaceMenu.esp  41 29    RaceMenuPlugin.esp  42 2a    SOSRaceMenu.esp  43 2b    XPMSE.esp  44 2c    Paradise_City_Merged.esp  45 2d    Immersive Patrols II.esp           SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp  46 2e    Vivid Weathers SE - SOS Patch.esp  47 2f    Chesko_WearableLantern.esp  48 30    SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp  49 31    SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp  50 32    SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp  51 33    sr_FillHerUp.esp  52 34    Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp  53 35    SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp  54 36    SexLabDefeat.esp  55 37    Better Vampires.esp  56 38    BotoxSE_Vanilla.esp  57 39    PAN_NPCs_DG.esp  58 3a    Immersive Weapons.esp  59 3b    PAN_NPCs.esp  60 3c    Men of Winter.esp  61 3d    Schlongs of Skyrim.esp  62 3e    Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp  63 3f    SexLab_Dialogues.esp  64 40    Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp  65 41    Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp  66 42    SOS - Shop.esp  67 43    R18pn - lingerie Set.esp  68 44    Bijin_AIO 2018.esp  69 45    DeadlyMutilation.esp  70 46    IB - All-in-One.esp  71 47    SolitudeNPC.esp  72 48    Whiterun2.esp  73 49    SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp  74 4a    AnubAnimObj.esp  75 4b    SLSO.esp  76 4c    Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp  77 4d    SexLab Eager NPCs.esp  78 4e    SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp  79 4f    SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp  80 50    SexLab Cumshot.esp  81 51    Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer Female.esp  82 52    Ultimate Lingerie Collection.esp  83 53    AddItemMenuSE.esp  84 54    mslDeviousCaptures.esp  85 55    DeviouslyHelpless.esp 254 FE  0 JailRape.esp  86 56    Nerida.esp  87 57    RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp  88 58    Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp  89 59    Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp  90 5a    Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 254 FE  1 SOS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp  91 5b    Open Cities Skyrim.esp  92 5c    Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp 254 FE  2 SOS_OpenCities_Patch.esp  93 5d    ELE_SSE.esp 254 FE  3 SoS_ELE_Patch.esp  94 5e    Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp  95 5f    RealisticWaterTwo.esp  96 60    RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp  97 61    RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp 254 FE  4 RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp 254 FE  5 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp  Â
Psalam Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 Quote 28 minutes ago, ClaydFr said: Hey guys,  I don't know why but MNC is making my game crash, I know it's MNC cuz I uninstalled it and since then, no more crashes ! (I tried it on a new save). I also tried to disable the others mods to see if there was any conflicts, but still CTD if MNC is activated. Any idea ? Edit : I forgot to tell you that I am using MO2.   Reveal hidden contents  0 0    Skyrim.esm  1 1    Update.esm  2 2    Dawnguard.esm  3 3    HearthFires.esm  4 4    Dragonborn.esm  5 5    Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp  6 6    SexLab.esm  7 7    SexLabAroused.esm  8 8    CreatureFramework.esm  9 9    ApachiiHair.esm  10 a    ApachiiHairFemales.esm  11 b    Paradise_City_RESOURCES.esm  12 c    ApachiiHairMales.esm  13 d    Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm  14 e    Devious Devices - Assets.esm  15 f    Devious Devices - Integration.esm  16 10    Devious Devices - Expansion.esm  17 11    RaceCompatibility.esm  18 12    ZaZAnimationPack.esm  19 13    daymoyl.esm  20 14    hdtHighHeel.esm  21 15    battlenymphs.esm  22 16    SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp  23 17    Immersive Wenches.esp  24 18    SkyUI_SE.esp  25 19    RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp  26 1a    Vivid WeathersSE.esp  27 1b    UIExtensions.esp  28 1c    FNIS.esp  29 1d    SexLabTools.esp  30 1e    MassMatchMakerSE.esp  31 1f    SLAnimLoader.esp  32 20    Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp  33 21    SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp  34 22    icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp  35 23    Animallica.esp  36 24    CBBE.esp  37 25    RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp  38 26    FasterHorses.esp  39 27    Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp  40 28    RaceMenu.esp  41 29    RaceMenuPlugin.esp  42 2a    SOSRaceMenu.esp  43 2b    XPMSE.esp  44 2c    Paradise_City_Merged.esp  45 2d    Immersive Patrols II.esp           SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp  46 2e    Vivid Weathers SE - SOS Patch.esp  47 2f    Chesko_WearableLantern.esp  48 30    SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp  49 31    SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp  50 32    SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp  51 33    sr_FillHerUp.esp  52 34    Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp  53 35    SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp  54 36    SexLabDefeat.esp  55 37    Better Vampires.esp  56 38    BotoxSE_Vanilla.esp  57 39    PAN_NPCs_DG.esp  58 3a    Immersive Weapons.esp  59 3b    PAN_NPCs.esp  60 3c    Men of Winter.esp  61 3d    Schlongs of Skyrim.esp  62 3e    Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp  63 3f    SexLab_Dialogues.esp  64 40    Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp  65 41    Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp  66 42    SOS - Shop.esp  67 43    R18pn - lingerie Set.esp  68 44    Bijin_AIO 2018.esp  69 45    DeadlyMutilation.esp  70 46    IB - All-in-One.esp  71 47    SolitudeNPC.esp  72 48    Whiterun2.esp  73 49    SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp  74 4a    AnubAnimObj.esp  75 4b    SLSO.esp  76 4c    Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp  77 4d    SexLab Eager NPCs.esp  78 4e    SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp  79 4f    SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp  80 50    SexLab Cumshot.esp  81 51    Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer Female.esp  82 52    Ultimate Lingerie Collection.esp  83 53    AddItemMenuSE.esp  84 54    mslDeviousCaptures.esp  85 55    DeviouslyHelpless.esp 254 FE  0 JailRape.esp  86 56    Nerida.esp  87 57    RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp  88 58    Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp  89 59    Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp  90 5a    Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 254 FE  1 SOS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp  91 5b    Open Cities Skyrim.esp  92 5c    Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp 254 FE  2 SOS_OpenCities_Patch.esp  93 5d    ELE_SSE.esp 254 FE  3 SoS_ELE_Patch.esp  94 5e    Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp  95 5f    RealisticWaterTwo.esp  96 60    RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp  97 61    RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp 254 FE  4 RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp 254 FE  5 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp    I assume (since it's a mesh issue) that the problem with MNC is the same here on SE as it is on LE. On LE there is an issue with the horse cocks. Since the mesh is corrupted you get CTD whenever you get near a horse. MadMansGun gives a workaround on his modpage. You can also use an older version (if you can find one). Finally, if you load a mod that provides animal cocks after MNC (such as Animated Beast Cocks) it will overwrite the corrupted mesh and things will work normally.  Good luck and happy hunting!  (Oh, and MMG is working hard on this and is very frustrated by this issue. I wouldn't pester him with it because he's aware).
ClaydFr Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, Psalam said: I assume (since it's a mesh issue) that the problem with MNC is the same here on SE as it is on LE. On LE there is an issue with the horse cocks. Since the mesh is corrupted you get CTD whenever you get near a horse. MadMansGun gives a workaround on his modpage. You can also use an older version (if you can find one). Finally, if you load a mod that provides animal cocks after MNC (such as Animated Beast Cocks) it will overwrite the corrupted mesh and things will work normally.  Good luck and happy hunting!  (Oh, and MMG is working hard on this and is very frustrated by this issue. I wouldn't pester him with it because he's aware). Well actually, even with no horse in the area I am having a CTD. In Helgen keep for example. (Maybe spiders and bear are the cause ?). Btw, is Animated beast cocks working on SSE ?
Psalam Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 Quote 3 minutes ago, ClaydFr said: Well actually, even with no horse in the area I am having a CTD. In Helgen keep for example. (Maybe spiders and bear are the cause ?). Btw, is Animated beast cocks working on SSE ? Â I do not see that it is available on SSE. So, you can use an older version of MNC OR you can find another mod that might change the cock textures and load it after MNC. Also, without being mean, you may want to look at my blog regarding navigating LL for newcomers. The second (most recent post) will help walk you through looking for things like that. The link is in my signature if you're interested.
ClaydFr Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Psalam said: I do not see that it is available on SSE. So, you can use an older version of MNC OR you can find another mod that might change the cock textures and load it after MNC. Also, without being mean, you may want to look at my blog regarding navigating LL for newcomers. The second (most recent post) will help walk you through looking for things like that. The link is in my signature if you're interested. It's not my first time on LL, I just didn't post until now ! Well, I tried creature schlong, animal SOS, BDIC.. Not working, I really don't understand.
MadMansGun Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, ClaydFr said: Hey guys,  I don't know why but MNC is making my game crash, I know it's MNC cuz I uninstalled it and since then, no more crashes ! (I tried it on a new save). I also tried to disable the others mods to see if there was any conflicts, but still CTD if MNC is activated. Any idea ? Edit : I forgot to tell you that I am using MO2. are you sure you have the SSE version of MNC? using the wrong version will crash your game (the SLE nif files are not compatible with SSE and will make it crash)  56 minutes ago, Psalam said: I assume (since it's a mesh issue) that the problem with MNC is the same here on SE as it is on LE. On LE there is an issue with the horse cocks. Since the mesh is corrupted you get CTD whenever you get near a horse. MadMansGun gives a workaround on his modpage. You can also use an older version (if you can find one). Finally, if you load a mod that provides animal cocks after MNC (such as Animated Beast Cocks) it will overwrite the corrupted mesh and things will work normally.  Good luck and happy hunting!  (Oh, and MMG is working hard on this and is very frustrated by this issue. I wouldn't pester him with it because he's aware). 1. MNCSE is still on v11.4c (no animated penises/skeleton.hkx files) 2. the SLE crash problem is caused by "crash fixes v12" not liking the skeleton.hkx files, the skeleton.nif files and other meshes are perfectly fine.
ClaydFr Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 Just now, MadMansGun said: are you sure you have the SSE version of MNC? using the wrong version will crash your game (the SLE nif files are not compatible with SSE and will make it crash) Yes, I am using MNC 11.4CSE, and it's the only mod causing CTD. I even tried to reinstall my game and download MNC again just in case, still crashing when i am activating it. ?
MadMansGun Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, ClaydFr said: Yes, I am using MNC 11.4CSE, and it's the only mod causing CTD. I even tried to reinstall my game and download MNC again just in case, still crashing when i am activating it. ? have you tried deleting the dll file? (Data\SKSE\Plugins\SetVehicleFixPlugin.dll)
ClaydFr Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, MadMansGun said: have you tried deleting the dll file? (Data\SKSE\Plugins\SetVehicleFixPlugin.dll) Yep I did it, I tried a lot of things. Is there a conflict with one of my mods ?
MadMansGun Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 2 hours ago, ClaydFr said: Is there a conflict with one of my mods ? i don't see anything that i know of, the only mod that stands out is Immersive Creatures but all that would do is make some creatures not have dicks (unless you install bad dog's addon for it)
ClaydFr Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 17 hours ago, MadMansGun said: i don't see anything that i know of, the only mod that stands out is Immersive Creatures but all that would do is make some creatures not have dicks (unless you install bad dog's addon for it) I installed BDIC, I really don't understand, I love MNC, and suddenly it's causing CTD. Â
MadMansGun Posted May 30, 2019 Posted May 30, 2019 if all else fails use a tactical nuke https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3524-sexlab-more-nasty-critters-install-guide/ Â
ClaydFr Posted May 30, 2019 Author Posted May 30, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 3:01 PM, MadMansGun said: if all else fails use a tactical nuke https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3524-sexlab-more-nasty-critters-install-guide/ Â I also tried it, I tried to reinstall all the mods too, didn't work.. Edit : Could it be caused by the intro of the game ? Just asking because I am only trying in helgen keep actually
ClaydFr Posted June 3, 2019 Author Posted June 3, 2019 Up, I tried to use alternate start, still having the CTD..
bladejoy Posted August 19, 2021 Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Hey there, I'm having a problem where when MNC is turned on it's crashing my game right off the bat. I'm not an avid modder so I'm not exactly sure what to do. The option for MNC in my MCM is still popping up even when turned off but it won't show animal cocks whatsoever. Also, I'm using the LE version of skyrim and the LE mod to go along with it. For whatever reason I couldn't get the mod to work in SE at all, even when using the SE mod. Edited August 19, 2021 by bladejoy
ChibakoShiba Posted August 13, 2022 Posted August 13, 2022 im still getting this crash, tbbmalloc.dll
traison Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 There's a bug (or used to be?) in CreatureFramework (or MNC) where if you have the range of the cloak set at default (or possibly higher) it will CTD quite often. In my case it seemed to be related to bears. Â My fix for this appears to have been to set the PrfCloakRange value to 6144. In my notes I also have that MNC apparently overrides CF and changes how this value works. If this is the case for you as well then the equivalent value for 6144 is 288. Â Also, for some reason I've disabled this fix, meaning I've found a better fix at some point but I do not recall what it was. If however this is the issue you're having, the fix above is sufficient.
deathtome1998 Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 On 8/15/2022 at 11:41 AM, traison said: There's a bug (or used to be?) in CreatureFramework (or MNC) where if you have the range of the cloak set at default (or possibly higher) it will CTD quite often. In my case it seemed to be related to bears. Â My fix for this appears to have been to set the PrfCloakRange value to 6144. In my notes I also have that MNC apparently overrides CF and changes how this value works. If this is the case for you as well then the equivalent value for 6144 is 288. Â where would i put prfcloakrange? i've looked all over the internet and LL and can't find where to put it. and i can't find it already in my ini's.
traison Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 Its the variable name for the cloak range setting in CF's MCM. There should only be one range setting there, if not, use your imagination I guess.
deathtome1998 Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, traison said: Its the variable name for the cloak range setting in CF's MCM. There should only be one range setting there, if not, use your imagination I guess. oh, i thought it was an ini setting. well shoot, i can't even get my game to launch for some reason and nobody's responded yet to the post i made asking for help to see if they could figure out if something in my load order was causing it, because i'm stumped.
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