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Posted

Hey guys,

 

This is a reformatted version of a similar post I made in the DDi thread, as I figure having the issue in two places might help me resolve it sooner.

 

TL;DR

It appears that the assignment of Alternate Animations of DDi and FNIS Sexy Move is conflicting, and I'm not sure why.

Here is the Papyrus log for the session matching the pictures in my post:

Papyrus.0.log

 

 

LONG FORM:

 

As it is now, when I equip a follower with an animation-changing DD device, when stationary, the follower adopts the pose that is to be expected :

 

                                                               (High Security Armbinder, Iron  Yoke, Hobble Dress Extreme) Idle

ArmbinderIN.jpg.2debef2c8f1cdc49d4bf9cfa6a020296.jpgYokeIn.jpg.76f351cad7de28f4cb7f80a3b995da01.jpgHobbleIn.jpg.17bbae6e4766591234b6878b730e72ea.jpg

 

Once they start moving, however the animation breaks, and they switch between the expected animation, and what seems like a FNIS Sexy Move walk:

 

                                                               (High Security Armbinder, Iron  Yoke, Hobble Dress Extreme) Walking

ArmbinderWalking.jpg.92ceea1fd828f71db6ac0b0092da189d.jpgYokeWalking.jpg.11264336bb0835fd0a549375d7651782.jpgHobbleWalking.jpg.ae6ddd13eedea4f8b4ef4974bb38ac8f.jpg

 

I'm not sure if this is the expected behavior when these two mods are installed together, or if I have done something wrong.

On some earlier posts in the forum some people had issues with "Earlier" versions of FNIS sexy move, but this is the newest version, 7.1.

To make troubleshooting easier, I've installed mods only up to the point at which I see the problem appear.

 

I have also attached the Papyrus log from the session when I took these pictures; I'm not a papyrus expert, but assuming that Janessa is the

[ActorBase < (000B9982)>] mentioned in the papyrus file, the animations called seem to match up with what happened.

Papyrus.0.log

 

Additionally i have attached my mod load order, and a screenshot detailing the versions of the mods. 

Lastly attached is the content of the output window after running FNIS XXL 7.4.5 with said mods.

LoadOrder_Skyrim_2019-05-16T23-45-11.txt

 

With this load order I'm only around ~4600 Animations, so the amount shouldn't be an issue.

Any and all help solving this issue would be appreciated.

 

Thank You!

FNIS XXL Output.txt

Posted

this isn't helpful, but:

 

YOU CAN'T WEAR THOSE BOOTS with A SEXY THIGHT and SHINY HOOBLESKIRT

 

this is a crime against multiple fetish style rules and will result in breaking your animations or worse (transfer to DCL fetish prison for styeless dragonborns and ignorant NPCs)

 

 

EDIT: also do you have those Issues only on NPCs or on the PC too

on your pictures I see only an NPC

NPC always have some issues with the armbinders from DDi

you could check a few things like:

> changing cell

> reload

> add/remove weapons/armors from the NPC so it updates the inventory and what the NPC is wearing

> check how many NPCs DDi is allowed to register via MCM (if you have a lot of bound NPCs around)

 

but basically DDi armbinders don't work reliable on NPCs

Posted
17 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

this isn't helpful, but:

 

YOU CAN'T WEAR THOSE BOOTS with A SEXY THIGHT and SHINY HOOBLESKIRT

 

this is a crime against multiple fetish style rules and will result in breaking your animations or worse (transfer to DCL fetish prison for styeless dragonborns and ignorant NPCs)

 

 

EDIT: also do you have those Issues only on NPCs or on the PC too

on your pictures I see only an NPC

NPC always have some issues with the armbinders from DDi

you could check a few things like:

> changing cell

> reload

> add/remove weapons/armors from the NPC so it updates the inventory and what the NPC is wearing

> check how many NPCs DDi is allowed to register via MCM (if you have a lot of bound NPCs around)

 

but basically DDi armbinders don't work reliable on NPCs

Sorry about the fashion snafu lol, this is the result of me picking the fastest new game start so everything could initialize properly.

As a result I had to remove all my favorite clothes :C.

 

Other than the armbinder, I also provided the hobble skirt and yoke as well.   Both of them exhibit the animations switching back.

It happens whether I load into another cell (Like entering a house), or fast travel.

 

All DD equipment was placed on the NPC by putting it in her inventory.

 

I'm playing a male character, so Sexy Move is not applied to me.

Posted
15 minutes ago, jimmyyu said:

I'm playing a male character, so Sexy Move is not applied to me.

I feared so^^

 

I have the same issues with my NPCs,

for example DCL's new prison, lots of NPCs in thight bondage

sometimes everything works, sometimes it doesn't (means armbinders and hobble works on the NPCs, next day they all ignore their bondage)

I don't use FNIS sexywalk but can see the same issues, especially if the NPC have any weapons on them or torches

btw I have the same issue sometimes with ZAZ items

so maybe it's connected how often NPCs get updated?

(thats why I asked if you could remove armors and weapons from the NPC to see if you get an DD idle update)

 

atm I have hydragon slaves installed + DDi devices patch

means I have a lot of NPCs running around in DDi armbinders.

For what ever reason that works great atm, but I have no hope that it stays like this

 

I realy would like to know a solution for that myself ?

Posted
13 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

I feared so^^

 

I have the same issues with my NPCs,

for example DCL's new prison, lots of NPCs in thight bondage

sometimes everything works, sometimes it doesn't (means armbinders and hobble works on the NPCs, next day they all ignore their bondage)

I don't use FNIS sexywalk but can see the same issues, especially if the NPC have any weapons on them or torches

btw I have the same issue sometimes with ZAZ items

so maybe it's connected how often NPCs get updated?

(thats why I asked if you could remove armors and weapons from the NPC to see if you get an DD idle update)

 

atm I have hydragon slaves installed + DDi devices patch

means I have a lot of NPCs running around in DDi armbinders.

For what ever reason that works great atm, but I have no hope that it stays like this

 

I realy would like to know a solution for that myself ?

I may end up just replacing the vanilla skyrim female walk/run with the sexy version then.

I also found some weird interactions with some of the pony gear.

 

Let me strip Janessa and see if the gear behaves differently.

Posted

Seems like some people are helping me out in the main thread, so I'll use this one to catalogue findings about the interaction between the two (What devices can be used together).

 

I'll have some lower rez compiled pictures, and then most likely links to shadowplay recordings of the actual tests (With underwear ofc) so they are able to be put on youtube and left unlisted.

 

In the meantime, at least my favorite combination is working!

 

20190517123725_1.jpg.61bebafb0701ef9c12fc0f83f92c8341.jpg

Posted
On 5/17/2019 at 9:27 AM, donttouchmethere said:

I feared so^^

 

I have the same issues with my NPCs,

for example DCL's new prison, lots of NPCs in thight bondage

sometimes everything works, sometimes it doesn't (means armbinders and hobble works on the NPCs, next day they all ignore their bondage)

I don't use FNIS sexywalk but can see the same issues, especially if the NPC have any weapons on them or torches

btw I have the same issue sometimes with ZAZ items

so maybe it's connected how often NPCs get updated?

(thats why I asked if you could remove armors and weapons from the NPC to see if you get an DD idle update)

 

atm I have hydragon slaves installed + DDi devices patch

means I have a lot of NPCs running around in DDi armbinders.

For what ever reason that works great atm, but I have no hope that it stays like this

 

I realy would like to know a solution for that myself ?

I seem to have found a solution by combining this feminine animation pack with the prefered level of FNIS sexy move's 360 walk/ run animations.

It doesn't seem to break the deviant devices animations either, but I'll test further before approaching fore to make a FOMODed mod specifically for this purpose.

Posted
8 minutes ago, jimmyyu said:

I seem to have found a solution by combining this feminine animation pack with the prefered level of FNIS sexy move's 360 walk/ run animations.

It doesn't seem to break the deviant devices animations either, but I'll test further before approaching fore to make a FOMODed mod specifically for this purpose.

I use this one instead: XP32 New Animation Package

gives me the sexy walk without the FNIS sexy move compatibility issues

(don't forget to use the gender patch for this one tho or ZAZ whipping won't work anymore)

 

on the other hand I need to use something devious on my PC to get the 360° walk/run

 

thx for the mod link, didn't know about that one

 

some glorious globes on your jenassa :O

Posted
2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

I use this one instead: XP32 New Animation Package

gives me the sexy walk without the FNIS sexy move compatibility issues

(don't forget to use the gender patch for this one tho or ZAZ whipping won't work anymore)

 

on the other hand I need to use something devious on my PC to get the 360° walk/run

 

thx for the mod link, didn't know about that one

 

some glorious globes on your jenassa :O

Ahaa!  Thats one of the packs Fore grabed the walk/run from.

 

From the FNIS SM Page:

437820392_2019-05-1918_12_44-FNISSexyMoveatSkyrimNexus-modsandcommunity.png.2d39b3bf9cfa2f176e7761518d1e7f8c.png

 

As for the 360 Walk, if you have a  mod that support the 360 move funcionality already, you can just swap the animations by renaming them.

If you download the 360 player walk patch on FNIS sexy move nexus page (Under downloads) and extract the 8 different directional animations for Walk 4 they should match what you have already.

 

Anyway, glad to hear you found a solution as well!

  • 1 year later...
Posted
On 5/20/2019 at 3:46 AM, NIND (jimmyyu) said:

Ahaa!  Thats one of the packs Fore grabed the walk/run from.

 

From the FNIS SM Page:

437820392_2019-05-1918_12_44-FNISSexyMoveatSkyrimNexus-modsandcommunity.png.2d39b3bf9cfa2f176e7761518d1e7f8c.png

 

As for the 360 Walk, if you have a  mod that support the 360 move funcionality already, you can just swap the animations by renaming them.

If you download the 360 player walk patch on FNIS sexy move nexus page (Under downloads) and extract the 8 different directional animations for Walk 4 they should match what you have already.

 

Anyway, glad to hear you found a solution as well!

Am confused. What exactly is the solution?

 

I have Hydra slavegirls as well and FNIS SM seems to break their DD walk in arm binders. I don't have a problem with PC animations in DD.

Posted

I too am confused on the fix. However I don't have Hydra Slave girls but my PC will start in the correct DD armbinder anim then after about thirty seconds she reverts back to regular animations.

  • 6 months later...
Posted
On 1/11/2021 at 3:41 AM, glebbus13 said:

Can anybody confirm that deleting FNIS Sexy Walk solves the problem with NPC walking animation wearing armbinders?

 

You dont have to delete it, but yes that would work.

I have solved this by disabling NPC assignment in the FNIS  MCM menu. That way I still have FNIS for PC walk. If theres an NPC that has an armbinder and is still using the FNIS walk animation for whatever reason, I just access their inventory and reequip the armbinder on them. It takes a couple seconds but the animation will work properly and should stay that way, in theory at least.

Posted
On 1/11/2021 at 3:41 AM, glebbus13 said:

Can anybody confirm that deleting FNIS Sexy Walk solves the problem with NPC walking animation wearing armbinders?

 

3 hours ago, Nanaki613 said:

 

You dont have to delete it, but yes that would work.

I have solved this by disabling NPC assignment in the FNIS  MCM menu. That way I still have FNIS for PC walk. If theres an NPC that has an armbinder and is still using the FNIS walk animation for whatever reason, I just access their inventory and reequip the armbinder on them. It takes a couple seconds but the animation will work properly and should stay that way, in theory at least.

 

 

Whoa its been a while since I came to this topic.... I fixed this by replacing the vanilla skyrim walk run animations with the FNIS sexy move walk/run 360 files in my install folder if I remember correctly.... this way DD assigns stuff correctly, but FNIS walk is the default one used for females in skyrim.

  • 2 months later...

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