(SOLVED) CTD outside Riverwood. Same spot.

[sinivii]

Solved it.
It was SLAL MNC, specifically version 14_F. Apparently some people have been having problems with horses causing them to crash using the F variant, and it just so happened that I was using a horse-carriage fast-travel mod that planted horses at pretty much every town gate, including Riverwood. 

 

Thankfully the author hosted the old version 14_D for people with such problems, like me! 12 hours straight I spent troubleshooting this. Feels good to be done.

 

Thanks for the aid folks.

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It's that time of the year again and I am again "playing" Skyrim, but first to update my mods... Uuuuugh...

I've made a save on the road to Riverwood from Helgen, at about the last turn before Riverwood comes into view, and I crash EVERY TIME I try to approach Riverwood, in almost the EXACT same spot every time... Except when it doesn't, can't quite figure out why it doesn't occasionally when most of the time it does.

 

I don't like bugging people with my problems unless I hit a wall, and this is my second day banging my head against said wall. Hopefully I can gain some insight here while I meticulously go over my mods again. I've done this way too many times, yet for some reason I keep doing it.

 

Relevant data:

Oldrim.

 

Using Mod Organizer v1.3.15.

 

SKSE mods not listed in Load Order:

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+(SKSE) Havok Fix
+(SKSE) Faster Sleep Wait
+SKSE - Continue Game No Crash
+SKSE - Meh321's Better Jumping
+SKSE - Meh321's Bug fixes
+SKSE - meh321's Crash fixes
+SKSE - Safety Load
+SKSE - FISS - FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Script - FISS
+SKSE - Grimy Plugin
+SKSE - Various files
+SKSE - Scripts <-------------------------------------------------- From official SKSE ran through MO.

 

I suspect Creature Framework, but that's a guess from looking at the logs... Speaking of; here's two:

Papyruslog 0

Papyruslog 1

 

Here's a load order:

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
TKChildren.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
EFFCore.esm
PC Exclusive Voice Path.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
ZazExtensionPack.esm
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Highrock Breton - Personal Race.esp
Ohmes Raht - Personal Race.esp
WetandCold.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
3DNPC.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
FISS.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Beards.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
SkyUI.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
Extended UI.esp
Footprints.esp
FreckleMania.esp
hmkHotkeys.esp
iHUD.esp
Immersive detection of NPC.esp
RealShelter.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
VioLens.esp
Bucklers Only.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
OCR-Fixes.esp
Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
SplashofRain.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
UIExtensions.esp
TrueBrows.esp
HDTTailsEquipable.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
GoToBed.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
Duke Patricks - Skyrim Friction Fix.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
SleepTight.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
NoRadialBlur.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
TKDodge.esp
TKChildren+3DNPC.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
SilverDragonArmor.esp
CaptivatingEyes.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
KS Jewelry.esp
Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
Duellist.esp
Pureweather.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
Epoch Weapon Pack.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Inigo.esp
Fiore.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
Craftable Horse Barding.esp
VVE.esp
Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp
Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp
RealShelter USLEEP Patch.esp
Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp
Merta Assassin Armor.esp
Advanced Mining.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
ImmersiveSpells.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
HarvestOverhaul.esp
LindsHumanEyes.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Magnetic Eyes.esp
Disparity.esp
Ohmes Raht - PCEV + Disparity Patch.esp
Disparity - PCEV - Highrock Breton Patch.esp
3DNPCEFF.esp
FNIS.esp
Morgynn Ashcroft Legerity.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
CL Ebonyblade.esp
CL EbonyBladeDagger.esp
ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
EyesFix.esp
Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
LindsSpellslinger.esp
LindsWoodlandAlchemist.esp
LindsMarksmageGarb.esp
Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp
Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp
NPR Lingerie Sets.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
zzArmormashups.esp
Tiwa44_SpiceGear.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
AddItemMenu2.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
isilNarsil.esp
Immersive Music Temples.esp
Immersive Music Replacer.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
iNeed.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp
Emfy Cleric Robes.esp
Gwelda Armor Pack.esp
Evil MasterMind Armor.esp
The Serenity.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
TKChildren.esp
SkyrimOutfitSystem.esp
Morgynn Sword.esp
Voam.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
SexLabTools.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
ZaZHDTWorkshop.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SLAL_K4Anims.esp
3jiouAnimSLAL.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
DW.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
DeviouslyHelpless.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
Blush When Aroused.esp
SpousesEnhanced.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp
Apropos2.esp
SerialStrip.esp
SerialStripper.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
DragonbornInDistress.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RS Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

If I forgot something, let me know.

[Lugubrious0ne]

Spooky man. Very spooky. I'm not looking in depth at your logs, but I had the exact same problem just the other day, in the exact same spot. Had me at my wits end. Interestingly enough, there was also a CTD on entering the Loreius Farm cell. 

 

Our load orders are quite different, and I made a couple of minor mod changes that didn't seem to affect anything.

 

Then I took this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316 and pointed it at my entire MO2 mods folder.

I couldn't see any huge changes it made, to be honest. But there were a couple of things in there

 

I also used SSEEdit's 'quick auto clean' functionality on my DLC esms, and a couple of my major mods. Various ITMS and undeleted references were fixed.

 

And after taking these two steps...the CTDs were gone. All gone. If you're like me and you've googled your problem, you find lots of threads with people recommending tweaks to SKSE.ini, crashfixes, etc. It's nothing like that. So, optimise your mods folder, clean your masters and big plugins (hell, clean every plugin if you have to) and you will get there!

[2dk2c.2]

Turn off every feature of your video-card (antialiasing and the other one, anisotropic-something.)

Well it helped me survive "Dragon bridge", a nightmare town for me for some freaking reason until I tweaked the card, and *everything* fixed, but I'll never know why,

And telling someone this'll probably just elicit disbelief.

ambient occlusion, depth-of whatever, caching...

(how depressing)

 

O, and phantom scripts left over by older mods and older versions of mods, another unsolvable one.

 

 

 

[sinivii]

4 hours ago, Lugubrious0ne said:

Spooky man. Very spooky. I'm not looking in depth at your logs, but I had the exact same problem just the other day, in the exact same spot. Had me at my wits end. Interestingly enough, there was also a CTD on entering the Loreius Farm cell. 

 

Our load orders are quite different, and I made a couple of minor mod changes that didn't seem to affect anything.

 

Then I took this https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/23316 and pointed it at my entire MO2 mods folder.

I couldn't see any huge changes it made, to be honest. But there were a couple of things in there

 

I also used SSEEdit's 'quick auto clean' functionality on my DLC esms, and a couple of my major mods. Various ITMS and undeleted references were fixed.

 

And after taking these two steps...the CTDs were gone. All gone. If you're like me and you've googled your problem, you find lots of threads with people recommending tweaks to SKSE.ini, crashfixes, etc. It's nothing like that. So, optimise your mods folder, clean your masters and big plugins (hell, clean every plugin if you have to) and you will get there!

 

Yeeep. Spooky indeed, Riverwood is cursed I tells ya, just finished redoing my ENTIRE load order, updating and ensuring their had their reqs and soft-dependancies etc...

No Dice... That spot is HAUNTED.

 

That program is for SSE though ain't it? Don't think it'll do me any good... Buuut I'll give it a shot. Beggars can't be choosers.

 

Already cleaned my ESM's the old way, and I will make a pass over individual plugins if I get forced to. It's not  much of a hazzle anymore to be honest, not with xedit v4+.

 

Oh yeah! I'll get there one way or another, but how long will it take me THIS time!? Time sure flies though. Kinda fun, and really kinda not.

 

 

4 hours ago, 2dk2c.2 said:

Turn off every feature of your video-card (antialiasing and the other one, anisotropic-something.)

Well it helped me survive "Dragon bridge", a nightmare town for me for some freaking reason until I tweaked the card, and *everything* fixed, but I'll never know why,

And telling someone this'll probably just elicit disbelief.

ambient occlusion, depth-of whatever, caching...

(how depressing)

 

O, and phantom scripts left over by older mods and older versions of mods, another unsolvable one.

 

Done and done. Didn't work though.

Don't have the phantom scripts problem(I THINK). I am always testing this stuff on a New Fresh Game. Good times.

[GenioMaestro]

7 hours ago, sinivii said:

I've made a save on the road to Riverwood from Helgen, at about the last turn before Riverwood comes into view, and I crash EVERY TIME I try to approach Riverwood, in almost the EXACT same spot every time... Except when it doesn't, can't quite figure out why it doesn't occasionally when most of the time it does.

If you always have CTD on the same location 99% of the times are caused by a bad mesh. Disable mods until locate it.

[sinivii]

6 minutes ago, GenioMaestro said:

If you always have CTD on the same location 99% of the times are caused by a bad mesh. Disable mods until locate it.

Right'o~
As a matter of fact I was in the middle of that when I read this! This excited me more than it should tbh...