Vylade Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 Hi. I have an issue with Cosio and Fair Skin Complexion. I want Cosio and Fair Skin Complexion to work together because I prefer the skin texture from Fair Skin. I have installed Cosio, All in One Animated Pussy, and Fair Skin Complexion + the patch that you can get on the Cosio page for Fair Skin. For some reason when I enable Fair Skin the skin textures on my character are exactly how I want them to be, and all the meshes on my character are perfectly fine. My issue comes when I do 'coc whiterun' and walk towards the whiterun stables down the stone path. There is a certain point on that path close to the farm where you can see the companions fighting the giant that the game will CTD. It will CTD in this particular spot every single time no matter what I disable or enable AS LONG AS Fair Skin is enabled. Basically if I have Fair Skin enabled, there is a repeatable CTD near whiterun stables that I haven't been able to get rid of. Also I should mention, I get the EXACT same CTD when I enable SMIM. Anytime either Fair Skin or SMIM are enabled, I have a repeatable CTD next to whiterun stables. It seems to me that another symptom of the problem is sometimes I get missing textures. One time I'll load in (with Fair Skin Complexion or SMIM loaded) and some random texture will be pink. The first time I noticed it it was on a Therium. The next time I started the game (with the exact same load order) the Therium was fixed. I noticed this pink texture on horse saddles and some npc's vanilla clothing. Other times the pink texture would be on one of the banners attached to the stone archway right before Whiterun's gates. I've tried disabling all my mods to try and find the conflict, nothing worked. I tried to reinstall Fair Skin and its patch from Cosio, no luck. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 ApachiiHair.esm 7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 8 8 RaceCompatibility.esm 9 9 RSkyrimChildren.esm 10 a SkyMoMod.esm 11 b Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 12 c SexLab.esm 13 d ZaZAnimationPack.esm 14 e Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 15 f CreatureFramework.esm 16 10 SexLabAroused.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp 21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp 22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp 23 17 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp 24 18 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 25 19 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 26 1a WetandCold.esp 27 1b AOS.esp 28 1c Skyrim Bigger Trees Full.esp 29 1d ELFX - Exteriors.esp 30 1e immersive roads.esp 31 1f JKs Skyrim.esp 32 20 3DNPC.esp 33 21 UIExtensions.esp 34 22 AddItemMenuLE.esp 35 23 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 36 24 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 37 25 Animated Dragon Wings.esp 38 26 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 39 27 SoS - The Wilds.esp 40 28 SoS - Civilization.esp 41 29 OBIS.esp 42 2a Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 43 2b SoS - The Dungeons.esp 44 2c ELFX - Weathers.esp 45 2d AOS2_SoS_ELFX-Weathers Patch.esp 46 2e AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 47 2f HDT Havok Object.esp 48 30 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 49 31 SexyBanditCaptives.esp 50 32 Immersive Encounters.esp 51 33 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 52 34 Immersive Patrols II.esp 53 35 SofiaFollower.esp 54 36 SexLab-Parasites.esp 55 37 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 56 38 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 57 39 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 58 3a Sneak Tools.esp 59 3b Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 60 3c Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 61 3d Better Vampires.esp 62 3e Immersive Weapons.esp 63 3f dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp 64 40 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 65 41 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 66 42 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 67 43 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 68 44 Dr_Bandolier.esp 69 45 Eyes of Aber.esp 70 46 FNIS.esp 71 47 FNISspells.esp 72 48 FreckleMania.esp 73 49 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 74 4a IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 75 4b iHUD.esp 76 4c KS Hairdo's.esp 77 4d More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp 78 4e OBISDB.esp 79 4f RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 80 50 RaceMenu.esp 81 51 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 82 52 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 83 53 RSChildren.esp 84 54 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp 85 55 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 86 56 SkyUI.esp 87 57 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 88 58 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 89 59 SOSRaceMenu.esp 90 5a SuccubusRaceLite.esp 91 5b TERAArmors_CBBE.esp 92 5c WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp 93 5d WetandCold - Ashes.esp 94 5e XPMSE.esp 95 5f DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 96 60 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 97 61 Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp 98 62 MoreNastyCritters.esp 99 63 Bijin AIO.esp 100 64 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 101 65 Bijin Wives.esp 102 66 Bijin NPCs.esp 103 67 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 104 68 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 105 69 12FemaleBrows.esp 106 6a RichMerchants.esp 107 6b SLAnimLoader.esp 108 6c SexyBanditCaptives_KSHair.esp 109 6d SexLabDefeat.esp 110 6e Apropos2.esp 111 6f SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 112 70 SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp 113 71 SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp 114 72 SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp 115 73 SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Equipable.esp 116 74 SOS_Ho.esp 117 75 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 118 76 NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp 119 77 SexLabTools.esp 120 78 AnimatedParasites.esp 121 79 EstrusChaurus.esp 122 7a EstrusSpider.esp 123 7b sr_FillHerUp.esp 124 7c SOS - Grower - Extended.esp 125 7d Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 126 7e Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 127 7f Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 128 80 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 129 81 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 130 82 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 131 83 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp 132 84 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 133 85 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 134 86 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 135 87 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 136 88 ELFXEnhancer.esp 137 89 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp Also I seem to not be getting papyrus logs in my documents folder even though I have all the papyrus stuff in skyrim.ini set to =1. I'm using Mod Organizer 2
RohZima Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 Yeah so when you go into that cell and the game loads a certain nif which has a problem it causes the ctd... Question is which nif and what problem. Can you just installing Fair skin manually first to make 100% sure that all the many types of textures it installs copy across? I know it is a pain cause they are in different folders but it still only take a little effort. Then test if the ctd happens Maybe when you install it (how?) it doesn't install everything..
Grey Cloud Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 It's a memory problem. CTDs are 99.99% memory problems. Are you using the 2K or the 4K skin? Your game is incorrectly set up. I say this with some confidence after looking at your load order. There are certain basic mistkes in there which suggest a lack of understanding. e.g. and not directly related to your CTDs: You are supposed to choose one of these and if you use XPMSE skeleton then you don't need any of them. 64 40 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - High.esp 65 41 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 66 42 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 67 43 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp If you use the AiO then you don't need the individual esps. 99 63 Bijin AIO.esp 100 64 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 101 65 Bijin Wives.esp 102 66 Bijin NPCs.esp Now concerning your problem: Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp Get rid. Not been updated in 4 years and not needed anyway. Try this: https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.10.0 31 1f JKs Skyrim.esp Try changing to this JKs Cities - Lite and SuperLite https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71018/ Bug fixes and less resource hungry. I've used it for a couple of years . 32 20 3DNPC.esp 41 29 OBIS.esp 55 37 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp I'm not saying any of these are bad, I use the first two myself, but they all make a big demand on your resources. There are probably a few others in your load that I don't know.
Vylade Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 Thank you for replying. I have been plagued with this issue for a week now. Yes, I do believe it is the 4k version. I usually always chose the highest resolution available. RRAF fixed, thank you. AiO fixed, thank you. SPO removed, thank you. I'll add JK's Cities Lite instead of JK's Skyrim.
Vylade Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 Crashing isn't fixed. I never expected it to be. I've run skyrim with all of this shit before at the maximum of 256 plugins and I still didn't get repeatable ctds like this. I'm gonna try the optimized version of fairskin
Grey Cloud Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 Are you using an ENB or ENBoost, Crash Fixes and SKSE Plugin Preloader? If no then install If yes then double-check the settings etc. 4K textures devour VRAM. FSC for CBBE = 221MB; Optimised version = 47.2MB. Every female NPC is getting that sort of hike. Unless you are doing screenshots or just sat there gawping at your PC then you wont notice the difference.
Vylade Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 I have neither ENB or ENBoost. I have Crash Fixes. I don't think I have the plugin preloader.
Vylade Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 Well, I changed Fair Skin from the full version to optimized version and .... I don't seem to be crashing anymore...? I don't want to get excited yet cause I might have just got lucky.
Vylade Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 I think the crashing is fixed!? I can't repeat it again!
Vylade Posted February 16, 2019 Author Posted February 16, 2019 Thank you so much you guys for your help. I really appreciate your replies. I would have never thought that downgrading the texture would fix the crashing for some reason! I thought it was a conflict.
Grey Cloud Posted February 16, 2019 Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Vylade said: I have neither ENB or ENBoost. I have Crash Fixes. I don't think I have the plugin preloader. I highly recommend that you install ENBoost* and the SKSE Plugin Preloader. They, along with Crash Fixes, will drastically reduce the occurrence of CTDs. They basically allow you to optimise your VRAM and RAM for Skyrim. *Or an ENB. Conflicts are one the myths of Skyrim. They exist but generally just result in one thing overwriting another or some kind of weird effect in-game.
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