Crash on new game and load

daedal · November 13, 2018

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0 0 Oblivion.esm
1 1 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
2 2 Cobl Main.esm
3 3 SettlementsOfCyrodiil.esm
4 4 Toaster Says Share v3.esm
5 5 TamRes.esm
6 6 TamRes_LandscapeResource.esm
7 7 Artifacts.esm
8 8 Armamentarium.esm
9 9 Enhanced Genetics Overhaul.esm
10 a Fundament.esm
11 b IngredientJars.esm
12 c Jog_X_Mod.esm
13 d Knights - Revelation.esm
14 e Lovers with PK.esm
15 f CustomSpellIcons.esm
16 10 LoversCreature.esm
17 11 Oblivifall Master File.esm
18 12 Oblivion Sexualized Monsters-exclu TRM.esm
19 13 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
20 14 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
21 15 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
22 16 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
23 17 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
24 18 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
25 19 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
26 1a DLCThievesDen.esp
27 1b DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
28 1c DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
29 1d DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
30 1e DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
31 1f DLCVileLair.esp
32 20 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
33 21 DLCHorseArmor.esp
34 22 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
35 23 DLCOrrery.esp
36 24 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
37 25 DLCSpellTomes.esp
38 26 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
39 27 DLCFrostcrag.esp
40 28 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
41 29 Knights.esp
42 2a Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
43 2b RshAlchemy.esp
44 2c Paladin.esp
45 2d More Effective Enchantments.esp
46 2e More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp
47 2f Rare - LockPick_RepairHammer.esp
48 30 See You Sleep DLL.esp
49 31 See You Sleep DLL - DLCVileLair.esp
AddActorValues_example.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
50 32 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
51 33 Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens GC CH Tree Cull 5.esp
52 34 Better Dungeons.esp
53 35 OOOShiveringIsles.esp
54 36 ReclaimSancreTor.esp
55 37 OOOEquipmentAddon.esp
56 38 Oblivion Uncut.esp
57 39 Lush & Gaudy Damn Greens.esp
58 3a IBOC1.6BETA.esp
59 3b Cobl Si.esp
60 3c TamRes.esp
61 3d ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp
62 3e Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp
63 3f VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
64 40 Fort Akatosh Redux.esp
65 41 HoarfrostCastle.esp
66 42 OOOCreatureAddons.esp
67 43 GlenvarCastle.esp
68 44 Adventurers Guild.esp
69 45 Knights - Revelation.esp
70 46 Cobl Races.esp
71 47 SupremeMagicka.esp
72 48 DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp
73 49 The Ayleid Steps.esp
74 4a Mages Guild Quests.esp
75 4b Grass Overhaul.esp
76 4c MannimarcoRevisited.esp
77 4d Cobl Glue.esp
78 4e SM_ShiveringIsles.esp
79 4f SM_Scrolls.esp
80 50 SM_SigilStone.esp
81 51 SM_DLCSpellTome.esp
82 52 SM_EnchantStaff.esp
83 53 SM_NoSpellLights.esp
84 54 SM_OOO.esp
85 55 Cover yourself when you sleep.esp
86 56 Custom Class Description.esp
87 57 DKSpellEffectiveness0Min.esp
88 58 C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
89 59 DialogTweaks.esp
90 5a 00 Realistic Player Speech.esp
91 5b Generic Name Overhaul.esp
92 5c LoversSituations.esp
93 5d Fighters Guild Quests.esp
94 5e ShadowfangKeep.esp
95 5f DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
96 60 Oblivifall - Something Is Definately Not Right.esp
97 61 Servant of the Dawn.esp
98 62 Woodland Rangers.esp
99 63 OSM-Exclu TRm.esp
100 64 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
101 65 Oblivion Uncut - OOO Adaptation.esp
102 66 delivery_job.esp
GuildAdvancementBGU.esp
103 67 LoversBitch.esp
104 68 Dungeons of Tamriel.esp
105 69 strotisNewFood.esp
106 6a thievery.esp
107 6b TimeEnough.esp
108 6c Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.esp
109 6d Street Vendors of Cyrodiil.esp
110 6e LoversHorseRider2.esp
111 6f Oblivion DLC Delayers.esp
112 70 Myserious Bear's Epic Necromancy.esp
113 71 SunderedKeep.esp
114 72 Artifacts.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
115 73 RshAlchemyRecipes.esp
116 74 ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp
117 75 ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackHairsOnly.esp
118 76 LoversImmoralSisters.esp
Grass Overhaul_xUL_Imperial_Isle_patch.esp
119 77 LoversProstitute NoMBP.esp
LoversProstituteDVV.esp
120 78 LoversPayBandit.esp
121 79 LoversProstituteFeej.esp
122 7a Vampire Revolution.esp
123 7b Lovers with PK.esp
124 7c LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
125 7d LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
126 7e Populated Prisons.esp
127 7f demonocus-fasterHorses.esp
128 80 Zira's Horse Modpack - Armored Legion Horses.esp
129 81 Zira's Horse Modpack - Extra Horses.esp
130 82 Map Marker Overhaul.esp
131 83 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
132 84 Druid Mod.esp
133 85 Faction Followers.esp
134 86 Zira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.esp
135 87 Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp
136 88 LBPMill.esp
137 89 xlds.esp
138 8a Nascosto Isles 3.esp
139 8b DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
140 8c TSS Custom Companion Template.esp
141 8d Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
142 8e LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
143 8f Command Mount.esp
144 90 DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp
145 91 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp
BDBS - See You Sleep Patch.esp
ArmamentariumLL.esp
ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp
146 92 ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp
147 93 ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp
148 94 Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp
149 95 BetterSaves.esp
150 96 Bundlement.esp
151 97 C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp
152 98 LoversCreature.esp
LoversFutaSperm.esp
153 99 LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
Dremora female.esp
154 9a FuroTrapCoreFramework.esp
155 9b FuroTrapModSandbox.esp
156 9c Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp
157 9d Lush & Gaudy FG.esp
158 9e Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp
159 9f Magic Effects OBSE Tweaks.esp
160 a0 Enhanced Genetics Overhaul - VanillaRaces.esp
161 a1 LoversRaperS.esp
162 a2 Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp
163 a3 FuroTrapModBasic.esp
164 a4 FuroTrapModLoversVoice.esp
165 a5 FuroTrapModEstrus.esp
166 a6 FuroTrapModHazards.esp
167 a7 Idle Dialogue.esp
LSTaddonout.esp
LSTaddonoutH.esp
LSTaddonIn.esp
LSTaddonInH.esp
168 a8 Oblivion XP.esp
169 a9 LootMenu.esp
170 aa Palace Improvement.esp
171 ab LoversMB2.esp
172 ac RingofMara.esp
173 ad Roberts Armamentium female.esp
174 ae RshAlchemy - AVU.esp
175 af FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp
176 b0 SetBody.esp
177 b1 kuerteeCleanUp.esp
178 b2 ShowRaceMenu.esp
179 b3 Enhanced Economy.esp
180 b4 Skill Perk Descriptions.esp
181 b5 Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp
182 b6 TentaclePlant.esp
183 b7 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp
184 b8 HUD Status Bars.esp
DMRA Store.esp
185 b9 VCEClassOverhaul.esp
186 ba VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
187 bb Weapon Improvement Project.esp
188 bc Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp
189 bd FuroGeneratorTrap.esp
190 be xldsFuro.esp
191 bf Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp
192 c0 Enhanced Genetics Overhaul - Playable Dremora .esp
193 c1 Enhanced Genetics Overhaul - Playable SI Races.esp
Enhanced Genetics Overhaul - Cosmetic Addons .esp
194 c2 Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp
195 c3 zzEstrus.esp
196 c4 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp

above is my load order

any ideas?

*fejeena* · November 14, 2018

Sort your Mods!!!! That's a mess!

Even your DLCs are in wrong order...

Use BOSS ( never LOOT ) run BOSS , or use only the masterlist txt file and sort manually.

Then sort your Lovers Mods manually ( see my yellow Link below.

AND sort all the Mods that BOSS do not know, It you run BOSS you get a message when it is finished that BOSS was not able to sort Mod x, y, z, ... All the unknown Mods BOSS place at the end of the Load order , you MUST sort the Mods. ( see my yellow Link below )

If you are done you can use TES4Edit and start it with all your Mods.

If you have a missing master file, or the masterfile is below the plugin file , TES4Edit stop loading you you see a message " ....file xy must be in load order above file zz" Fix your load order and run TES4Edit again until it load all your Mods without error message.

daedal · November 15, 2018

21 hours ago, fejeena said:

Sort your Mods!!!! That's a mess!

Even your DLCs are in wrong order...

used boss and it still crashes

*fejeena* · November 15, 2018

Have you use TES4Edit to check if you have all masterfiles, or master and plugin files in the right order?

Have you sorted the unsorted mods?

Have you read me Mod descriptions? Have you all requirements? OBSE, Pluggy, .... and some Mods do not need other Mod esp/esm but the meshes and textures from other Mods.

And when did your game crashed the first time? The "bad" mod must be one of the Mods you have installed after you was able to start your game.

Deactivate those Mods and start your game, now it should work.

Then activate one of the deactivated mods , and start your game. Do it one by one,..until your game crash.

Now you know the "bad" Mod. Check if you have all requirements and masterfiles for that Mod.

Or don't use the Mod.

daedal · November 17, 2018

even after disabling all plugins it still crashes at new game

*gregathit* · November 17, 2018

Delete your oblivion.ini file found in your my documents/oblivion folder where your saved games are kept.

Then you should be able to start without crashing.

daedal · November 17, 2018

42 minutes ago, gregathit said:

Delete your oblivion.ini file found in your my documents/oblivion folder where your saved games are kept.

Then you should be able to start without crashing.

before, it crashed after i pressed the new game button

now it still crashes after deleting oblivion.ini

*fejeena* · November 17, 2018

Then install the game again. And remember

Do not install the game in C : / program files (x86) ....

Do not use Nexus Mod Manager ! It can not install Lovers Mods, Mods with ini folders,...

Install step by step. First the base game and Sivering Isle and test your game. Then all other DLCs you want and test again.

Then Start with Mods, 2-3 Mods and test. If something goes wrong you know that it was one of the last installed mods.

Sort Mods withBOSS/ BOSS masterlist

Install Lovers after you have all other Mods installed.

Read my yellow Link below.

daedal · November 17, 2018

12 hours ago, fejeena said:

Then install the game again. And remember

Do not install the game in C : / program files (x86) ....

Do not use Nexus Mod Manager ! It can not install Lovers Mods, Mods with ini folders,...

Install step by step. First the base game and Sivering Isle and test your game. Then all other DLCs you want and test again.

Then Start with Mods, 2-3 Mods and test. If something goes wrong you know that it was one of the last installed mods.

Sort Mods withBOSS/ BOSS masterlist

Install Lovers after you have all other Mods installed.

Read my yellow Link below.

thanks for the help but I think I'm done with oblivion. way too much for me and my peanut brain

DogOnPorch · November 19, 2018

On 11/17/2018 at 9:52 AM, daedal said:

thanks for the help but I think I'm done with oblivion. way too much for me and my peanut brain

You're trying too hard too fast.

In order to get my particular install of Oblivion into the bloated monster it is today, I started very slow...first with the basic install then slowly adding mods over time to ensure everything works correctly.

Adding everything at once and hitting the launch game command is likely to disappoint and will likely produce few clues as to what went wrong, ultimately.

kukenmellantuttarna · February 27, 2019

Hmm I think I'm having the same problem. Did you get it to work?

My game stopped working when I installed the new version of SDR, it just went to the main menu of the game and then it hanged itself. I had to restart the computer everytime because I couldn't even exit the Oblivion screen. (so I uninstalled SDR of course)

Since then I have been installing different mods to try their compatibility with eachother.

Now the last couple of days I have only installed village mods and Better Cities and Unique Landscapes. Without checking them out, just installing all of them with all patches i could find, to see how it works out when I open the game.

Today I installed COBL.

Now all afternoon and evening I get the same problem as daedal. I get to the Oblivion main screen, but when I click new game or load game it crashes to desktop straight away.

I deactivated all mods to see if it worked, but it's still the same.

I have installed Oblivion in another extrafolder to be able to use CSE v8 (i think its v8?) , and I compared the oblivion.exe and .esm files in both folders and they have the same crc.

I tried to upload a screenshot of the obse plugins i use but the upload stops halfway

*fejeena* · February 27, 2019

Your load order please !

And have you tried TES4Edit?

Start TES4Edit with all your Mods, when it stops loading before all Mods are laoded it will tell you what is wrong ( e.g. missing masterfile xxx.esp must be loaded above yyy.esp )

Then you correct your load order, or install the missing master, and then run TES4Edit again until it loads all your Mods without a error message.

kukenmellantuttarna · March 6, 2019

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Active Mod Files:

		00  Oblivion.esm
		01  SettlementsOfCyrodiil.esm  [Version 1.3]
		02  Jog_X_Mod.esm
		03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.38]
		04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.74]
		05  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.9]
		06  TantrivayliaChimer.esm
		07  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]
		08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.6]
		09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
		0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.9]
		0B  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.5]
		0C  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.38]
		0D  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.38]
		0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.38]
		0F  ChaseCameraMod.esp
		10  NBB.esp
		11  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
		12  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]
		13  FormID Finder4.esp
		14  kuerteeCleanUp.esp
		15  Streamline 3.1.esp
		16  FB_Dark_Crusader_2_FHQ.esp
		17  MerryBellInn.esp
		18  Vvardenfell_Imports.esp
		19  Xifr's Seperated Dark Brotherhood Armour.esp
		1A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
		1B  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
		1C  MTCDirtierBandits.esp
		1D  FarmAnimalsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.4]
		1E  Creature Diversity.esp
		++  MercerIngredientsCreatureDiversity.esp
		1F  TIE.esp  [Version 1.50]
		20  MercerIngredientsCore.esp
		21  PAWindmills.esp
		22  SOC-RegionalFarms.esp
		23  Suliin V1.2.esp
		24  Quelldorf 1.5.esp
		25  KnightlyArmory.esp
		26  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		27  Akaviri Imports.esp
		28  AltVillageStart.esp
		29  Bandit Hideouts.esp
		2A  HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
		2B  Cardac.esp
		2C  Colovian Barrow Mounds.esp
		++  LindumOverhaul-ColovianBarrowMounds Patch.esp
		2D  DibellaTempleWillowLakeVillagev1.esp
		2E  EaglesRest.esp
		2F  OblivionFarmer'sMarket3NoHungry.esp
		30  FF_WaldnirsWoods.esp
		31  FuseSnailRacing.esp
		32  Glenmoril Covens.esp
		33  hackdirtabyss.esp
		34  Highwood.esp
		35  Highwood-Cobl-Support.esp
		36  ICEXPAND.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		37  Imperial City Suburbs.esp
		38  300_White Stallion 4.esp
		39  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		3A  MTCStableInteriors.esp
		3B  MTCExpandedVillages.esp
		3C  OrangeInnCOBL.esp
		3D  PinePeakLodge.esp
		3E  Retbury Village.esp  [Version 1.1-Cobl]
		3F  Retbury Village - AN Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
		40  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
		++  Region_Revive_-_Lake_Rumare_FuseSnailRacing_Patch.esp
		41  SingingStablehandInn.esp
		42  Settlement of Tanis.esp
		43  SleepyCatInn.esp
		44  Tantrivaylia.esp
		45  thievery.esp
		46  TreeHouse.esp
		47  Valley_View_Estate.esp
		48  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
		49  VHB Waterfront Patch.esp
		4A  Knights.esp
		4B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
		4C  SoT_TheOrderofNibenay.esp
		4D  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.COBL]
		4E  House of Healing at Weye.esp
		4F  WeyeOverhaulModsPatch.esp
		50  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
		51  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_GuardCOBL.esp
		52  LegionOutposts.esp
		53  WhiteStallion-LegionOutposts Patch.esp
		54  Daedric Shrine Ruins.esp
		++  Daedric Ruins House of Healing Patch.esp
		55  Gaelendryl.esp
		56  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]
		++  ROC+Highwood Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
		57  RoadLights.esp
		58  RL+ROC Patch.esp
		++  ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
		++  MTCEV-RoC Patch.esp
		59  MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp
		5A  LegionOutposts-ThievesGrotto Patch.esp
		5B  Better daedric shrines full.esp
		5C  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]
		5D  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
		5E  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
		5F  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
		60  ACharmingTown.esp  [Version 1.8]
		61  English Billsburg_Rens_Hair.esp
		62  ClearwaterFarms.esp
		63  EastbrinkBasic.esp
		64  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.11]
		++  MTCVillages-FaregylPatch.esp
		65  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
		66  Gottshaw Village.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
		67  HackdirtAlive.esp
		68  Hackdirt Overhaul Patch.esp
		69  JDNT_Brina Cross.esp
		6A  MagesCross.esp  [Version 1.1]
		++  Highwood-MagesCross Patch.esp
		6B  Midland.esp
		6C  Milewood.esp
		6D  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
		6E  Oranstad.esp
		6F  MTC-Oranstad Patch.esp
		70  Pinevale.esp
		71  PTMudwater.esp
		72  Reaper's Bleaker's Way Village Revamp.esp
		++  ROC+RBWR Patch.esp
		73  Reedstand.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
		74  runestone.esp
		75  SacredOak_Settlement.esp
		76  ShezriesTownsMaster.esp
		77  Cardac-ShezriesTowns Patch.esp
		++  MTCExpandedVillages-ShezriesTowns Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
		78  SilverfishFalls.esp
		79  CM Solace.esp
		7A  StalhrimVillage.esp
		7B  StalhrimVillage - AN Patch.esp
		7C  Pinevale-Stahlrim Patch.esp
		7D  Urasek.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
		++  SacredOakSettlement-Urasek patch.esp
		7E  Vergayun.esp  [Version 2.0.2]
		7F  ROC-Midland-Vergayun patch.esp
		80  Villages1.1.esp  [Version 1.1d]
		81  Villages II.esp
		++  ROC+DC Villages Addon.esp  [Version 1.0]
		82  Wellspring Vale.esp
		83  ROC+WellspringVale Patch.esp
		84  White Rock.esp
		85  ROC+White Rock Patch.esp
		86  WhiteRoseFarm.esp
		87  WickmereFarm.esp
		88  Willowoak Farm-7981.esp
		++  VeronaHouseBloodlines-LushWoodlands fix.esp
		89  Gaelendryll - UL Brena River - Daedric Shrine Patch.esp
		8A  Unique Landscapes.esp  [Version 2.1.0BC]
		8B  Ogramirad's Unmarked Campsites-UL edition.esp
		8C  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
		++  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion Kvatch Rebuilt West Roads Patch.esp
		8D  BrinaCrossVillage.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
		8E  BrinaCrossVillage -- COBL.esp
		8F  BrinaCrossConsolidated.esp
		90  ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp
		91  Reworked Posts.esp
		92  Sutch Village.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
		93  SutchUnificationPatch.esp
		++  ULM EaglesRest-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULM SutchVillage-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULM NicVBetterBeggars-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp  [Version 2]
		94  ULM Quelldorf-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULS LindumOverhaul-LushWoodlands Patch.esp
		++  ULM HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp  [Version 3]
		95  ULE OrangeMaple-Clearwater-LushWoodlands patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULE WaldnirsWoods-AncientRedwoods patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
		++  ULM ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp  [Version 2]
		96  ULM MTCExpandedVillages-Oranstad-AncientRedwoods patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
		++  ULE Billsburg-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp  [Version 2]
		97  ULM ShezriesTowns-CloudtopMountains patch.esp  [Version 3]
		98  ULE FBDarkCrusader2-xulPatch_AY_AC patch.esp  [Version 2]
		99  ULE ValleyViewEstate-RiverEthe patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULM BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 3.0]
		9A  ULM FuseSnailRacing-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 4]
		++  ULM ImperialCitySuburbs-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 2]
		9B  ULM RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULE KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
		9C  ULM Villages-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp  [Version 2]
		9D  ULM DibellaTempleWillowLakeVillage-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 2]
		9E  ULM Cardac-ShezriesTowns-AspenWood patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULM ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULE Oranstad-SkingradOutskirts patch.esp
		++  ULM MTCExpandedVillages-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 2]
		9F  ULM Feldscar-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 2]
		A0  ULM MTCThievesGrotto-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 2.1]
		A1  ULE BanditHideouts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
		A2  ULM SilverfishFalls-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULM ImpeREALForts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp  [Version 2]
		A3  ULM Eastbrink-ImpeREALForts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ROC+RR Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
		A4  Cliff's Shacks Basements-Radiant AI.esp  [Version 1.0]
		A5  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 6.3.2]
		A6  Golden Perch Inn.esp
		++  Golden Perch Inn - AN Patch.esp
		A7  OBGate Partner bugfix.esp
		A8  RoC+RP Patch.esp
		++  xxreworkedvillages.esp
		++  xulBravilBarrowfields + RP Patch.esp
		++  SoC Ingredient Patch.esp
		A9  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4.5]
		AA  Rathunas01.esp
		**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
		**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp
		**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
		++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 88]
		AB  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
		++  Kart Hair Replace v01.esp
		AC  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 6.0.9]
		AD  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 6.0.9]
		AE  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
		AF  Better Cities - Nic-V's Better Beggars.esp  [Version 6.0.9a]
		++  Better Cities Skingrad - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
		B0  xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp  [Version 2]
		B1  Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		B2  Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
		B3  ULM BetterCities-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp  [Version 2]
		B4  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		++  Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		B5  Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		B6  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		B7  Suliin-BC6 Patch.esp
		B8  LegionOutposts-BC6 Patch.esp
		B9  ULM LegionOutposts-BetterCitiesFull-BlackwoodForest patch.esp  [Version 2]
		BA  ULS LindumOverhaul-BetterCities-AltChorrolHinterland Patch.esp
		++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
		BB  Better Cities - Vvardenfell Imports.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
		BC  RegionalFarms-BC6 Patch.esp
		++  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion BC Bravil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
		BD  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion BC Bruma.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
		BE  Better Cities Chorrol - Oblivifall Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
		BF  Better Cities Skingrad - Oblivifall Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
		++  ROC Standard Road Record.esp
		**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.38]
		**  TIE Weapon + Armor Filter.esp
		C0  Lilyvale för ROC.esp  [Version 1.1]
		++  VHB-AFK-Lilyvale Patch.esp
		C1  WhiteRockFarmAnimals.esp
		++  VHB-MTCExpandedVillages-fix.esp
		C2  Bravil_Interior_Docks.esp
		C3  Tree House -Crowd of Stallion-.esp
		C4  Fort Gorth.esp
		C5  Mountain Village.esp
		C6  NovicesIsolatedCamp.esp
		C7  Keep Gark.esp
		++  ULM ROC+UL-II Patch.esp  [Version 2]
		++  ULM DaedricShrineRuins-EasternPeaks patch.esp  [Version 1]
		++  EbroccaBossFix.esp
		C8  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Mods list above.

But as I said when I deactivate them all with Wrye Bash and just activate oblivion.esm and dlcshiveringisles.esp (also with just the oblivion.esm) it still CTD when I click "new game" or "load game".

And just now I moved all the obse plugins and the obse files from the Oblivion folder to another folder on the desktop and it still crashes. That pergament loading screen still shows up even tho I removed all the obse files.

Sorry for the late reply I was away a few days.

kukenmellantuttarna · March 6, 2019

It's weird. Are the oblivion.exe and oblivion.esm in both the main installation folder and in the folder I use for CS extender both corrupted in exactly the same way? Or is it some registry problem?

EDIT

Haha yeees! I got it to work now. I moved the menus folder as well and now it all works. So now I need to find which file in the menus folder that is messing it up.

EXTRAedit: Are there supposed to be floating doors in the cities when you use Better Cities? I saw that another time as well, but I didnät use the bashed patch that time because I just wanted to see if it worked out well. Now I have all these mods installed and have it all batched up, and there are still floating doors. I Cheydinhaal the orc womans door is in the middle of the street and in Chorrol there was another door.

*fejeena* · March 6, 2019

The door can be a "save" problem

Persistent references are saved in your save.

If you were in town before you installed BetterCities the doors will be at the old vanilla location when you use a old save with Better Cities.

Start a new game and check if the door are right. If yes, then it is you old save.

When the doors are wrong in a new game .... then wrong load order. A mod in load order below BetterCities change the door.

kukenmellantuttarna · March 29, 2019

Sorry for the late reply.

Yes i started a new character and now it was fine. But one of the floating doors was still there, it was from Knightly Armory so i removed it and now its good. Thanks for the help!

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