idea/question: Is this possible: Emotion system

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

Is it possible to add some type of hotkeyed emotion system, where you pick (thru hotkeys prehaps) how your PC reacts to NPCs, thus getting unique reactions of a fitting nature ?

 

Also, this could be further added with a lovers module allowing flirting, etc, and of course date rape .

 

But yeah, it'd give characther animations a lot more purpose if it's used for more than posing.

[Ark of Truth]

That would take forever to code. I doubt it is going to get done. To be honest your most likely better of building it yourself as hardly any new ones get built.

 

Also this should be in Oblivion adult mods as it is a request not a mod resource of any kind.

[gerra6]

your most likely better of building it yourself as hardly any new ones get built.

 

And that right there is the core of modding.

 

 

Is it possible to add some type of hotkeyed emotion system' date=' where you pick (thru hotkeys prehaps) how your PC reacts to NPCs, thus getting unique reactions of a fitting nature ?[/quote']

 

If you have an idea for a new mod, the first step is figuring out a way to make it happen.

 

If I am reading you correctly, what you are talking about sounds like a mod that integrates a large number of (hopefully compatible) pose mods, categorizes different animations into different emotional (or other) states, and then selects them based some sort of criteria that is partially user set and partially dependent on some external events (quest, conversation, disposition, etc).

 

It sounds doable, but pretty damn complicated.

 

So I'll just say this. Whenever possible start small and build from there.

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

this should be in Oblivion adult mods as it is a request not a mod resource of any kind.

 

 

No, it shouldnt.

 

It's not for any specefic game.

 

I had an idea I knew was WAY beyond my ability, so I decided to toss it to modders.

 

 

I take it you're the mod who also moved random threads (inluding one about the weather) into the politics section ?

[Ark of Truth]

this should be in Oblivion adult mods as it is a request not a mod resource of any kind.

 

 

No' date=' it shouldnt.

 

It's not for any specefic game.

 

I had an idea I knew was WAY beyond my ability, so I decided to toss it to modders.

 

 

I take it you're the mod who also moved random threads (inluding one about the weather) into the politics section ?

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I'm not a mod.

 

Read this, Post 3.

http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=9732

 

What the mods do with posts and threads is up to them personally I think that entire politics section should be deleted.

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

personally I think that entire should be deleted.

 

Um, as the first poster you CAN delete your user guide.........

[Ark of Truth]

personally I think that entire should be deleted.

 

Um' date=' as the first poster you CAN delete your user guide.........

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Nope users deleting they own threads is now disabled has been for over 2 months, it has to go through the admin or mods now. You didn't read what I put.

 

I said the entire politics section should be deleted.

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

I actually agree with you about it, not only because of the random threads being added to it (IE: one about a blizzard 19 years ago) but because what we need is a a board for sensitive topics (IE: those that'll lead to arguing) with rules specefically set up to force folks to be semi cordial if they're gona use it.

[DoctaSax]

I actually agree with you about it' date=' not only because of the random threads being added to it (IE: one about a blizzard 19 years ago) but because what we need is a a board for sensitive topics (IE: those that'll lead to arguing) with rules specefically set up to force folks to be semi cordial if they're gona use it.

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Some people are hard to please. Didn't you ask for a politics section?

 

EDIT: As to the OP, it reads as if you're asking if it's possible to have some sort of a random pose generator at the hit of a hotkey. It might be doable, but creating or getting permission for the facial and body anims, sorting them, and then getting them to play, and play nice together, according to any given situation, sounds like a helluva lot of work. It's unlikely anybody will volunteer.

[Ark of Truth]

I actually agree with you about it' date=' not only because of the random threads being added to it (IE: one about a blizzard 19 years ago) but because what we need is a a board for sensitive topics (IE: those that'll lead to arguing) with rules specefically set up to force folks to be semi cordial if they're gona use it.

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Some people are hard to please. Didn't you ask for a politics section?

 

Yes, yes he did.

 

It's a good thing you commented I thought I was high on something when I read that.

[Symon]

As facial expressions for Oblivion (and IIRC, FO3 and FO:NV) are embedded in the animation keyframe, this would be a mammoth task, just for Oblivion.

 

As so few people bother to embed facial expressions into poses and animations anyway.....

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

I actually agree with you about it' date=' not only because of the random threads being added to it (IE: one about a blizzard 19 years ago) but because what we need is a a board for sensitive topics (IE: those that'll lead to arguing) with rules specefically set up to force folks to be semi cordial if they're gona use it.

[/quote']

 

Some people are hard to please. Didn't you ask for a politics section?

 

Yes, yes he did.

 

It's a good thing you commented I thought I was high on something when I read that.

 

I actually asked for a debate section, because the problem was the lack of moderation other than locking threads.

 

 

 

 

As facial expressions for Oblivion (and IIRC' date=' FO3 and FO:NV) are embedded in the animation keyframe, this would be a mammoth task, just for Oblivion.

 

As so few people bother to embed facial expressions into poses and animations anyway.....

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Which is why I tossed this idea out there incase it were useful to any modders.

 

Of course certain modders just want to bitch and moan about it it seems........

[DoctaSax]

I actually asked for a debate section' date=' because the problem was the lack of moderation other than locking threads.

Which is why I tossed this idea out there incase it were useful to any modders.

 

Of course certain modders just want to bitch and moan about it it seems........

[/quote']

 

Throwing an idea out there that a) involves an enormous amount of work, and you don't have any intention of contributing to yourself because it's "way beyond my ability" is not particularly useful.

Saying people are bitching and moaning when they try to give you an idea just how much you're really asking for is not particularly useful either. Or well-behaved.

[Symon]

Kashiwaba, the reason it's a huge task is that if you decide an animation requires 5 emotions, you now need five copies of that animation. So instead of one animation, you need five and need to control five.

 

If you then decide that males need three addition male only expressions that's another three?

 

Understand a little now?

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

Oh I always understood Symon, just that those two really like to post in threads even if they have nothing to contribute.

[Emily]

Hey dead pool.

 

Lookie Here.

 

 

 

 

 

[Kashiwaba Tomoe]

Ohhh, is it just adjusting the NPC, or is that the player ?

 

Intersting.

[Poontank]

Oh, it's just an NPC emotional reaction/facial expression system, sorry.

It can also change NPC idle poses ("lovely gestures", KAWAII!) and give you and NPCs blushed cheeks.

 

The modder behind it is especially famous for tentacles...

 

But wait!

There was a thread a long time ago

where a few people posted, some in the know (and I don't exactly mean myself but Grim and Symon).

 

Nothing good might have come out of it

but the challenge still stands to tweak the faces a bit.

 

'EDialog' could help in this endeavor!

So when will we get it?

 

Probably never .

[Symon]

As I said in that post, embedding a single expression in a single keyframe is simple (if requiring experimentation).

 

What the post suggests goes beyond that, requiring numerous additional keyframes. (e.g. walkforwardwithgrin.kf, walkforwardwithsmile.kf, walkforwardwithshout.kf, etc ad infinitum.)

Then you need to adjust the animation chains so the new ones are used and selected when appropriate. (and we all know how brittle that chain is).

 

As I said, a massive job. The theory is easy. Implementation, I think not.

[Emily]

The groovatron on f3 allows player to alter facial looks and expression.

 

Hardly a system.

 

Oblivion already have vanilla expression system by default. Your PC expression towards diffrent NPC and faction are vary. Just get close to their interaction range but don't activate them.

 

In skyrim and fallout this feature was removed and switched to verbals.