cleavagesweat Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 I just ventured into FO4 and had to deal with the constant beth updates and having to wait for certain mods to be updated to be able to launch the game (i.e. script extender) and then other mods such as MCM and the like to be able to play with the mods installed. my question is are there other mods besides script extender that you guys have to wait to be updated after a beth update?
alphaman94 Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, cleavagesweat said: I just ventured into FO4 I don't know if you're talking about Skyrim or Fallout (your in the Skyrim Spoecial Edition, but your sentence is about Fallout 4) For Fallout 4, yes some mod actually need an update: Mod configuration Menu, Rename Anything, Place Everywhere, Extended Dialogue Interface (not sure about this one), Looks Menu, and some others.... You can also use that mod between the Bethesda Update and the F4SE update https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26956 For Skyrim SE, I don't know, I play on Oldrim. Too many mod are not ported to the SE. Sorry for my bad english, it's not my first language.
cleavagesweat Posted September 30, 2018 Author Posted September 30, 2018 @alpha - i'm talking about skyrimSE. I am staying in oldrim but recently ventured into FO4 and was really not OK with having the game not launchable every time beth pushed out a cc update and having to wait for a handful of mod authors to update their mods (not including script extender) to be able to play again. mods such as (MCM, Looksmenu, Extended Dialogue Interface, AWKRC?, Armorsmith Extended?). if that's the case with Special Edition then i'm not going to install it.
gregathit Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 Beth updates break script extender for EVERY Beth game. Any mod that depends on the script extender is also then broken. The only good news is that older games are updated less frequently than newer. Also, set your game not to update in steam and you won't have issues.
cleavagesweat Posted September 30, 2018 Author Posted September 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, gregathit said: Beth updates break script extender for EVERY Beth game. Any mod that depends on the script extender is also then broken. The only good news is that older games are updated less frequently than newer. Also, set your game not to update in steam and you won't have issues. ya we tried that in the steam settings and it delayed it but the game still updated. don't ask me how but you will see that some ppl had the same issue.
J.O.D. Posted September 30, 2018 Posted September 30, 2018 Well, you then have to run the game via SKSE64/F4SE launcher, not the game launcher, not from Steam.
cleavagesweat Posted September 30, 2018 Author Posted September 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, J.O.D. said: Well, you then have to run the game via SKSE64/F4SE launcher, not the game launcher, not from Steam. in the most polite way possible... duh... ?
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J.O.D. Posted October 1, 2018 Posted October 1, 2018 23 hours ago, cleavagesweat said: in the most polite way possible... duh... ? Sorry, is that targeted at me or you? I don't get it.?
cleavagesweat Posted October 1, 2018 Author Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, J.O.D. said: Sorry, is that targeted at me or you? I don't get it.? don't be sad it was just a little levity ? I was trying to convey that it is well known that if you have mods to use the script-extender-launcher and not the vanilla exe.
J.O.D. Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Ok, but you also should not run the launcher from Steam (to change resolution etc.), as that would also update the game.
Kristus Kringle Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 On 9/30/2018 at 1:10 PM, gregathit said: Also, set your game not to update in steam and you won't have issues. This isn't possible anymore, it was removed some time ago (18 months ago at least). At least it isn't possible for me and lots of other people. The best you can do is take Steam offline but that isn't 100% because mine randomly goes back online.
Asrienda Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, McLude said: This isn't possible anymore, it was removed some time ago (18 months ago at least). At least it isn't possible for me and lots of other people. The best you can do is take Steam offline but that isn't 100% because mine randomly goes back online. Make a backup of your game exe files. If steam updates, just revert it manually until skse and other files are updated.
Kristus Kringle Posted October 2, 2018 Posted October 2, 2018 Just now, Asrienda said: Make a backup of your game exe files. If steam updates, just revert it manually until skse and other files are updated. I didn't ask a question but that is what you have to do yes.
J.O.D. Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 21 hours ago, McLude said: This isn't possible anymore, it was removed some time ago (18 months ago at least). At least it isn't possible for me and lots of other people. The best you can do is take Steam offline but that isn't 100% because mine randomly goes back online. Well, you can set the game to only update on launch - and then run it using the SKSE64 loader, not from Steam. I just did it and it worked (my SSE on Steam says still Update required.
darkersteele Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, J.O.D. said: Well, you can set the game to only update on launch - and then run it using the SKSE64 loader, not from Steam. I just did it and it worked (my SSE on Steam says still Update required. Can confirm. Works for me like a charm that way.
Tefnacht Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 This is true: Setting Steam to “update on launch” and then launching the game through the script extender (or a simple direct link to the executable) will 100% prevent any updates. However! There is a pitfall here: This only works if your Steam client is already running!! If your Steam client is NOT already running (maybe because you don't have it set up to start automagically upon booting into Windows) the following will happen: The game (Skyrim/Fallout) will detect that its DRM provider, the Steam client, isn't running. It will terminate itself, launch the Steam client and tell it to relaunch the game. For your convenience. Now Steam does what it is supposed to do: “Update on launch” and you end up experiencing unwanted intercourse, ie. you're getting fucked with the update. Make! Sure! Steam! Is! Running! before you start a game you don't want to auto-update. Why Steam doesn't just provide us with a “do not ever update” option is anyone's guess.
cleavagesweat Posted October 3, 2018 Author Posted October 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tefnacht said: This is true: Setting Steam to “update on launch” and then launching the game through the script extender (or a simple direct link to the executable) will 100% prevent any updates. However! There is a pitfall here: This only works if your Steam client is already running!! If your Steam client is NOT already running (maybe because you don't have it set up to start automagically upon booting into Windows) the following will happen: The game (Skyrim/Fallout) will detect that its DRM provider, the Steam client, isn't running. It will terminate itself, launch the Steam client and tell it to relaunch the game. For your convenience. Now Steam does what it is supposed to do: “Update on launch” and you end up experiencing unwanted intercourse, ie. you're getting fucked with the update. Make! Sure! Steam! Is! Running! before you start a game you don't want to auto-update. Why Steam doesn't just provide us with a “do not ever update” option is anyone's guess. hey man - this info should be hammered and echoed so that it's common knowledge. I bet that's why a lot of us … well got fucked as you say ?
Kristus Kringle Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 So if you start Steam with Windows and set it to only update on launch (which is the only setting available on mine, there is no other option) the game will not update? I will allow Steam to start when Windows starts and give it a try.
Kaarinah Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 11 hours ago, McLude said: So if you start Steam with Windows and set it to only update on launch (which is the only setting available on mine, there is no other option) the game will not update? I will allow Steam to start when Windows starts and give it a try. That's what I did a few updates ago when I forgot to start Steam before launching and it works. Since then I have had no unplanned updates.
J.O.D. Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 Yes, so that is why it has always been working for me - I have Steam run on start up, as I hate the waiting for it to run/update/etc. when wanting to actually play.
gregathit Posted October 5, 2018 Posted October 5, 2018 https://www.loverslab.com/topic/108648-skyrimse-updated-and-now-skse-dont-work-read-this/
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