squarehippo Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 All the other plugins seem to work fine. I'm doing the "Let's go to prison" quest and when I talk to Dawes and ask about "other payment" to go in, I get stuck and we just stare at each other (I assume there's another dialogue that's supposed to show up that isn't working?). Furthermore, from that point on, no sex works. I always end up frozen, staring at the npc and have to load an old save. I tried to follow all the installation instructions carefully. Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes. Any ideas on what could be going wrong? (I also have another issue where the body is replaced with a different one after initiating sex and getting stuck as described above. But I haven't been able to reliably reproduce this problem). Load order: FalloutNV.esm. DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Companion Core.esm RobCo Certified.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm Lings.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutStore.esm UWHNV-Core.esm The Mod Configuration Menu.esp SmallerTalk.esp populatedcasino.esp UWHNV-Addon-DLC.esp UWHNV-Addon-GRA.esp UWHNV-Addon-FollowerHome.esp epock.esp Free Tribal Outfits.esp Ghost Variants.esp Ghost Variants Adjutant.esp Ghost Variants Safe.esp JillBSAA.esp merccustom.esp Nidaoutfitv1.esp NV_AsharasFormalClothing.esp NVRefugee Outfits.esp NWIxiaarmor1.esp sexysleepwear.esp sexysleepwearnr.esp Type3 Leather Armors.esp WastelandCourier.esp LingsPrettyThings.esp NVWillow.esp RobCo Certified Friendly Hit Fixer.esp MoonShadowRace.esp ShilohDS-Desert Succubus CORE.esp BBAliceMurray.esp BB_Persona_and_Secret.esp KDC_Companions_Removable_Armors.esp jailhouserockette.esp st.esp Jet Classic.esp UWHNV-Addon-NoCompanionsRoom.esp AsharasHairConversionNV.esp MoonShadowDolls.esp LadderRestorationProject.esp Niner.esp Face.esp HoldKeyToSneak.esp SexoutZAZ.esp SexoutStraponSex.esp SexoutBrutalRapers.esp SexoutPowderGangers.esp SexoutNCR.esp SexoutKhans.esp SexoutKings.esp SexoutFiends.esp SexoutDiscounts.esp SexoutHowAbout.esp SexoutTrade.esp SexoutRocket.esp SexoutCompanions.esp SexoutRex.esp SexoutRexWillow.esp SexoutWorkingGirl.esp SexoutRapist.esp SexoutBreeder.esp Sexout Certified.esp SexoutSexkey.esp SunnyCompanion.esp Total active plugins: 80 Total plugins: 80
squarehippo Posted October 18, 2012 Author Posted October 18, 2012 I tried unchecking all files not related to Sexout Tryout in FOMM, but I still get this problem :/.
srayesmanll Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 OK, first of all it looks like you got a load order problem. The sexout ESMs should be in this order: Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm SexoutStore.esm Pregnancy is in the wrong place. Will that fix the problem? Unknown, but it is an issue. Do yourself a favor and download BOSS (if you haven't already). It will set your load order for most things correctly, including the sexout ESMs. The sexout mods (esps) will get moved to the bottom of the load order because they are not recognized by BOSS. Other mods will also get moved to the bottom. Once you've reordered it, launch again and see if the problem persists. If so, you may have to test by disabling mods 1 at a time to see what the conflict is. But again, set the sexout ESM load order, either by hand, or BOSS (can be found on Nexus).
squarehippo Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 OK' date=' first of all it looks like you got a load order problem. The sexout ESMs should be in this order: Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutPregnancyV3.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm SexoutStore.esm Pregnancy is in the wrong place. Will that fix the problem? Unknown, but it is an issue. Do yourself a favor and download BOSS (if you haven't already). It will set your load order for most things correctly, including the sexout ESMs. The sexout mods (esps) will get moved to the bottom of the load order because they are not recognized by BOSS. Other mods will also get moved to the bottom. Once you've reordered it, launch again and see if the problem persists. If so, you may have to test by disabling mods 1 at a time to see what the conflict is. But again, set the sexout ESM load order, either by hand, or BOSS (can be found on Nexus). [/quote'] I tried BOSS and it puts Pregnancy after Slavery and Legion. In any case, I tried both load orders and it didn't work . This is what my load looks like after disabling everything: FalloutNV.esm DeadMoney.esm HonestHearts.esm OldWorldBlues.esm LonesomeRoad.esm GunRunnersArsenal.esm ClassicPack.esm MercenaryPack.esm TribalPack.esm CaravanPack.esm Sexout.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutLegion.esm Lings.esm The Mod Configuration Menu.esp ShilohDS-Desert Succubus CORE.esp SmallerTalk.esp (tried with and without this one) SexoutPowderGangers.esp Total active plugins: 18 Total plugins: 80 But I ended up with the same problems. It seems like this always happens after a dialogue event that is followed by some animation (for example, after talking to Eddie, the game will also get stuck). Since this was done with minimal mods loaded (the only one that is out of place is the ShilohDS-DesertSuccubus CORE which I needed for my save to load), it seems likely that the problems aren't due to a mod conflict? :/
srayesmanll Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Strange that Boss gets pregnancy out of order. But then I don't use pregnancy-based mods, so I wouldn't have seen that one personally. Some other things to check: 1) You said all of the other sex mods were working (before you reduced it to the current load order), correct? Or were none of the sex animations working? If none were working, then make sure you have the sexoutNG Data.fomod (link is the media fire link at the top of the page). You probably have this, just double-checking. 2) Have you updated EVERYTHING to current (sexoutNG - core.fomod and data.fomod, all of the tryout downloads, SCR - data and main). What about NVSE itself - is that updated to the current version 3beta2? And the NVSE extender to v11? 3) After that I'm kind of at a loss. I just ran through the PG Tryout about a week ago and other than an issue with HPT (Hard Prison Time mod which increases the PG tryout difficulty), it worked fine. Have you verified the cache through Steam in a while? Maybe it's just time to clean up the install. First uninstall all of the mods you've added. In Steam, right click on FONV, select Properties, select the Local Files tab, then select Verify Cache. Once done, reinstall the mods you had and try again. Worst case scenario is if the problem still persists, try a fresh game with the latest minimal load order and try again. Unless there is some kind in conflict with Desert Succubus (which I don't believe there is, I know of a few players that use it and seem to have no issues), I can't see a problem with this minimal load order.
Halstrom Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Strange that Boss gets pregnancy out of order. But then I don't use pregnancy-based mods' date=' so I wouldn't have seen that one personally. Some other things to check: 1) You said all of the other sex mods were working (before you reduced it to the current load order), correct? Or were none of the sex animations working? If none were working, then make sure you have the sexoutNG Data.fomod (link is the media fire link at the top of the page). You probably have this, just double-checking. 2) Have you updated EVERYTHING to current (sexoutNG - core.fomod and data.fomod, all of the tryout downloads, SCR - data and main). What about NVSE itself - is that updated to the current version 3beta2? And the NVSE extender to v11? 3) After that I'm kind of at a loss. I just ran through the PG Tryout about a week ago and other than an issue with HPT (Hard Prison Time mod which increases the PG tryout difficulty), it worked fine. Have you verified the cache through Steam in a while? Maybe it's just time to clean up the install. First uninstall all of the mods you've added. In Steam, right click on FONV, select Properties, select the Local Files tab, then select Verify Cache. Once done, reinstall the mods you had and try again. Worst case scenario is if the problem still persists, try a fresh game with the latest minimal load order and try again. Unless there is some kind in conflict with Desert Succubus (which I don't believe there is, I know of a few players that use it and seem to have no issues), I can't see a problem with this minimal load order. [/quote'] In reality pregnancy only needs to be adter SCR, but if Legion or slavery ever wanted to check pregnancy info it would need to be first and it\s less confusing for noobs to give them a load order other than half of one
squarehippo Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 Alright, so I kind of fixed it. I found that if I go into third person right before the animations take place, I get stuck! If I don't do that, the animations work fine. The problem now is that I can't make it past the first scene with Eddie and Scrambler. From what I read, after you refuse Eddie, they enslave your character. But after the animations, nothing happens. I turned of BrutalRapers to see if that was causing any trouble, but it didn't help.
iron_jack Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Turning off BR during that scene is indeed a good idea, for the record. A poorly-time stalker rape will break the sequence completely. Tryouts does have a few bugs in it. Several people are having trouble with this particular scene. Try positioning yourself such that Eddie and Scrambler can both talk to you without moving before initiating dialogue. Scrambler in particular seems to get confused if he has to walk and talk at the same time.
srayesmanll Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 Brutal Rapers can interfere with the mod in that area, so it's good to turn it off, at least until that part is done. Are you still running the limited load order or did you add everything back? If you did, did you happen to install HardPrisonTime mod? The reason I ask is that I ran into that exact issue with HPT installed. I didn't see it in your 1st load order. If that's is installed, remove it and try again. Others have mentioned having a similar issue, so take a look in the tryout thread, and I believe Loogie started a thread specifically for tryout issue so you might check that one as well. I seem to remember something about being closer to Scrambler before starting the encounter with Eddie - like stand between Eddie and Scrambler. Don't know why that would make a difference but doesn't hurt to try.
squarehippo Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 I removed HardPrisonTime completely to avoid further problems . I came up with a good solution to the problem. I just set the rapist KO to be shorter than the rapee KO. That way my character can be up and ready to intercept Eddie/Scrambler before they make it back to their regular positions in the room. It seems like once Eddie makes it back to his chair or Scrambler leans against the wall, the sequence is over. Thanks for the tips guys! I'll mark this as solved.
squarehippo Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 Actually, I have another problem, but it isn't critical. The shock collars seems to do nothing?
iron_jack Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I noticed that too. Also, sometimes getting raped seems to remove the collar completely.
squarehippo Posted October 19, 2012 Author Posted October 19, 2012 I noticed that too. Also' date=' sometimes getting raped seems to remove the collar completely. [/quote'] Yeah, it happens when you don't cooperate . Seems like non-consensual results in your collar disappearing.
iron_jack Posted October 19, 2012 Posted October 19, 2012 I think that's more a Sexout problem than a Tryout problem though, as any rape seems to strip every article of clothing you have on now (with the latest stable version anyway), rather than just the upperbody slot like it used to. My poor char can't keep anything on - body jewelry, hats, irremovable collars, nothing. edit: Unfortunately Loogie and Pride are both about half-MIA, so it might be a while before this kinda thing gets resolved. I guess we'll just have to make sure to cooperate in the meantime!
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