Robert81073 Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 OK, would really like some help, This is my load order # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Falskaar.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm hdtHighHeel.esm BeeingFemale.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Gray Fox Cowl.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm moonpath.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm daymoyl.esm AzarHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Havok Breast Physic.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ETaC - Complete.esp Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp SkyUI.esp Krb_FabulousSorting - Without spells.esp FNIS.esp AFT_NoDances.esp AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp UIExtensions.esp AddItemMenu2.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp AncientDraugr.esp Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp BeautifulelvesDLC.esp BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp BFSEffects.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp ELFX - NoPlayerHomes.esp RealShelter.esp Helgen Reborn.esp SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp Dead Body Collision.esp DeadlyDragons.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp ELFX - NoSeverinManor.esp ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp Facelight.esp towConversation.esp GoToBed.esp GoldenVendors.esp Height Adjusted Races.esp Brows.esp ImprovedMageLight.esp KaiSFemaleHHDT.esp HousecarlBeauties.esp NoHelmet.esp NPCsMoveatPlayerSpeed.esp Headtracking.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp [MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard.esp Serana.esp SerialStrip.esp SerialStripper.esp SexLab Submit.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp Merta Black Rose Armor.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp MoonAndStar_MAS.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp ELFX - NoHjerim.esp ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp ELFX - NoProudspireManor.esp ELFX - NoHoneyside.esp ELFX - NoVlindrelHall.esp Mannequin.esp Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp Tes Pagran Village.esp Tes Arena Nimalten.esp Havok Breast Physic.esp People Have Torches.esp Nightingale Hall.esp Run For Your Lives.esp ETaC - Complete No Snow Patch.esp TES Arena Amol.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp CinematicFireFX.esp Tes Vernim Wood.esp moonpath_questdata.esp VariousGuardReplacer.esp TES DunstadGrove.esp Devious Cidhna.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp Trees for Solitude.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp Beautiful Whiterun.esp AngrimApprentice.esp Thorald GreyMane.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp summersetisles.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp SolitudeExterior.esp WhiterunExterior.esp RealisticWhiterun.esp Emfy Cleric Robes.esp Celestine.esp holycow.esp ELFX - Moonpath.esp Genesis Surface Spawns.esp RedMountainErupts.esp Bodies Stay Longer (Extreme).esp Bodies Stay Longer.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp StormLord.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Treasure Maps of Skyrim.esp Uncle Sheo Legendary.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp UsableGauldurAmulet.esp Valerica.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp SexLabDefeat.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp Faction Crossbows.esp Tembtra Thief Armor.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp FNISSexyMove.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp SuccubusRaceLite.esp UNPArmoredBikini.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp SkyrimBound.esp SexistGuards.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp RSPatch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp I have run Loot, created a bashed patch, and run Fnis, cleaned all dirty edits, moved from NMM to MO, but still cannot get a good solid mod pack, my current issue is hanging on dragon screen, no smoke no music nothing. oh yes latest SKSE with ini files edit any help anyone can give would be much appreciated, or alternatively, if anyone can suggest a good stable modpack, I have tried looking and cannot find anything. Other modded games have stable packs created by experts, I am sure our experts in the Skyrim modding field can come up with somthing like this? I am running out of hair to pull out....
Uncle64 Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 How do your left side in MO looks like? You need to sort that one to, it should look close to your right side. And use Stand Alone LOOT for sorting your mods, you have some other small issues that I have not meniton down below. You have several of this mods. Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp Do you need them? You seems to use UNP why not use Unp Special instead that have all that stuff and you dont need those havok plugins. Use one. You cant have 2 dick on you any how. SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Obsolete. Use Modern Brawlbug patch instead. Brawl Bugs CE.esp Same here. It is already included in the Skeleton. dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Can your GPU handle this mod and have you make correct ini changes? Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Should be the last master you load. BeeingFemale.esm Use one. Bodies Stay Longer (Extreme).esp Bodies Stay Longer.esp AND one inportant thing, YOU should not clean any other mod then Skyrim masters if it dont say that on the modders page that you need to clean the mod. Beeing Female must you clean, but you can download one cleaned master from page 1 and it is included in Bane_Masters patch. I have cleaned it, and Milz did forget it about it.
Gameplayer Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 hdtHighHeel.esm only use mods that are on Nio-High Heels system like those found in Devious Devices, Book of UUNP, Gutris mods for UNPB...There are loads of heels mods that are converted over. The reason less stress on system. BeeingFemale.esm I tried this before it was on Nexus, but really found that there are better alternatives such as Soulgem Oven 3 and Hentia Pregnancy they just perform better in heavy loads from my experience. daymoyl.esm Never had a good experience in a heavy loaded game. Better alternatives are Defeat, which actually does protect you from death load screen or Cursed Loot which does the same if using its Rape system. Havok Breast Physic.esm My opinion, its just better to use a Havoc Enabled Female Head like the one found in Bodyslide or you just download one of my Havoc Enabled Heads from Nexus under Gamefever. RealShelter.esp I run without it, thing about Skyrim is it can get unstable with a lot of heavy mods, for instance if your running Devious Devices like I am well this here shelter mod isn't a big deal right. Dead Body Collision.esp I don't know off the top of my head but this mod is supposed to be not compatible with some other mods, also this isn't exactly something that mod authors plan on you having in your load order so it may have odd untended consequences. Run For Your Lives.esp I've not ever had a good experience with this mod in my load order and I use a way better mod called, Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul....Does exactly what Run for your Lives does and better cause for me it works. Deviously Enslaved.esp I've not ever had a great long term game experience with this mod in my Load Order...It seems to me that there are some mods that people use just for temporary games that are not long term 1000 hour finish everything playthroughs...This would not be in my LO for such a playthrough. GoToBed.esp I've had so many nasty experiences with go to bed mods that I just cant suggest that you leave it in your LO, and sure I don't have any idea if maybe this one is the one that finally works. BFSEffects.esp Better Spell something Lighting effects? With that mod in your LO, you cant hide with a spell out, plus things get weird with NPC's, cant remember off the top of my head what happened but I removed it from my LO. KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Has a patch on same mod download area for HDT female Body compatibility. Height Adjusted Races.esp For Sexlab alignment issues best to not use a mod that alters the height of the Races. Headtracking.esp I just don't use it anymore, less stuff like this in will give better performance. NoHelmet.esp I just use armored circlets or crowns from my Book of UUNP....Thinking this one is that one that removes helmets out of combat....My thought here is less is more performance and better stability. XPMSE.esp What I did was I went into the Mod folder in Mod Organizer....I deleted the ESP, the Scripts, and the Animations....Leaving only the Folder tree in place for the Skeleton files. Less Scripts better performance and less animations less chance of CTD cause I overloaded the animation file limits. DesyncBirdsOfPrey.esp Never had a good experience with Bird Mods, cause they tend to use scripts anyway to make them do things....More scripts less performance...A Devious playthrough you need to safeguard against script heavy stuff and cut out what isn't totally needed for best performance. I am very picky about that, always checking to make sure my game is at 60 FPS. Plus the original bird mods were just game killing mods due to bloat, don't know if this is a newer one or not. Bodies Stay Longer (Extreme).esp Bodies Stay Longer.esp Two of these in your Load order, taking up crucial ESP slots, we only get 255 hard cap....Also no idea if this will cause issues would have to examine them in Tes Edit to know. Remove one.
Gameplayer Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 SexLab Submit.esp Really shouldn't be used alongside Defeat...I seem to remember people used both but that shouldn't be done. Just use Defeat hydra_slavegirls.esp Mod was never really finished, probably not an issue but you should know that. HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp As a mod organizer user, you no longer need ESP's that merely activate BSA files....So you can delete these three ESP's or Deactivate them. Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp You probably don't need this Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp I think is this, Populated Skyrim HELL EDITION If its hand placed NPC's you could be fine...Still more NPC's being effected by cloak scripts could still be an issue....If its dynamic placement well get that shit out of your Load Order.
Uncle64 Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 Did miss GoToBed. Good that you spotted it Gameplayer. He need to skip that mod, since it have serius issues. Same goes for Headtracking. Remove them both.
Gameplayer Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 Tes Arena NorthKeep.esp Tes Pagran Village.esp Tes Arena Nimalten.esp All the TES stuff has an all in one file should cut down on your number of ESP's...Only reason to use the individual ones is cause it will conflict with another mod that has a placed settlement in an area you want to visit. SexLabAroused.esm Original or Redux version....I would go with Redux version. Ok that's all I got, hope that helps. You did say you had SKSE ini Tweak working...So you should be good after those corrections, There were some mods in there I did not recognize but should be alright. After the removal of so many mods...Probably better to start a new game.
Robert81073 Posted June 23, 2018 Author Posted June 23, 2018 Wow thanks everyone I will try some changes and report back what about Captured dreams? and SD? would these fit after the changes you suggest?
Gameplayer Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 Captured Dreams isn't compatible with DD 4.1 SD, you would have to use "Simple Slavery", which hooks into Defeat and Cursed Loot.
Andy14 Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 5:49 AM, Gameplayer said: Havok Breast Physic.esm My opinion, its just better to use a Havoc Enabled Female Head like the one found in Bodyslide or you just download one of my Havoc Enabled Heads from Nexus under Gamefever. Just a side note: Femalehead solution is an age-old idea of mine - and does not really work (only fpr PC). That's why it was rejected by me and others a few years ago. Havok Breast Physics (also mine) always works - also for men and every races.
Robert81073 Posted June 25, 2018 Author Posted June 25, 2018 Quick update So I performed tests with the suggestions, CTD on loading any save game Started a standard vanilla game, and CTD on entering keep at Helgen, now that savegame CDT on load. Looks like somthing is broken with the vanilla game, so will re install Test vanilla game then try adding my mods again Thankyou all for you assistance.
Robert81073 Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 So I was able to locate the issue and correct it, now my game is super stable and runs great. I was even able to add a lot more mods. The issue, was...... my own derp after cleaning files with TES5edit, MO puts the cleaned files into a different folder, you need to manually move them to replace the dirty files. I must have read over this several times in the instructions. Running 198 mods currently, a mix of game cchangeling and visual, and runs really good thanks to advice and instructions once read correctly. Thanks to everyone. Especially the fantastic modders who create all this added content, we enjoy.
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