LoneSheWolf Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 Hi! I apologize in advance if this is kind of a noobish question, but recently I installed a bunch of SexLab Mods for my Skyrim from this website and since my game has just been CTDing, freezing, lagging like hell, and getting stuck in infinite loading screens. I must admit, my game has never been the most stable. It's not unusual for my game to crash every once in awhile, sadly. But after installing these mods, it's nigh unplayable! I used NMM to install all of them (except for the Steam workshop ones of course) and I'm running an ATI Radeon HD 4200 graphics card. I've tried running both FNIS and LOOT to fix the problem but neither seems to have worked. Here's my load order (copy and pasted from LOOT): 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 RSkyrimChildren.esm 7 7 Campfire.esm 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a Devious Devices - Assets.esm 11 b Devious Devices - Integration.esm 12 c ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 13 d ZaZAnimationPack.esm 14 e Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 15 f daymoyl.esm 16 10 ApachiiHair.esm 17 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 18 12 RaceCompatibility.esm 19 13 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 20 14 DeviousFramework.esm lightplacement.esp barenziahquestmarkers.esp hdplants+herbs.esp lpsleep.esp soularmor_1.0.esp ulfricforfem.esp 21 15 SkyUI.esp 22 16 RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp 23 17 Eyes of Aber.esp 24 18 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 25 19 AMatterOfTime.esp 26 1a CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 27 1b becomeahighwayman.esp 28 1c becomeabeggar.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 29 1d TERAArmors_CBBE.esp 30 1e BuryTheDead.esp LinenCraft.esp 31 1f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 32 20 3DNPC.esp 33 21 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 34 22 RaceMenu.esp 35 23 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 36 24 TakeNotes.esp 37 25 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 38 26 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 39 27 [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp 40 28 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 41 29 Ambriel.esp 42 2a hydra_slavegirls.esp 43 2b Captured Dreams.esp 44 2c SexLab-Stories.esp 45 2d marriagemod - alpha v3.esp 46 2e DeathNote.esp 47 2f Inigo.esp 48 30 Frostfall.esp 49 31 SimpleSlavery.esp 50 32 LeafRest OnePiece.esp 51 33 FrostvaleEstate.esp 52 34 bathhouse.esp 53 35 EggFactory.esp 54 36 ashararomanticoutfitcbbe.esp 55 37 azelfollowercustom.esp 56 38 Vigilant.esp Elisdriel.esp 57 39 HoamaiiClearskyHideout.esp 58 3a ShowersInInns.esp 59 3b Recorder Follower Base.esp 60 3c Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 61 3d SofiaFollower.esp 62 3e Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 63 3f The Pit.esp nightofnazeem.esp 64 40 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp Naruto Overhaul.esp 65 41 DartHairColorsAll.esp 66 42 Falmerious.esp 67 43 treehouse.esp 68 44 portal2mod.esp 69 45 marriagemod - hf.esp 70 46 tmtStartgameMonsters.esp 71 47 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 72 48 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp 73 49 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp 74 4a ScarletDawnArmor.esp 75 4b dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 76 4c dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 77 4d EschaBaguetteSword.esp 78 4e SkeletonAreSkeletor_OnDeath.esp 79 4f Vigilant Voiced.esp 80 50 HighElfSkinTones.esp 81 51 WoodElfSkins.esp 82 52 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp 83 53 RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp 84 54 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 85 55 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 86 56 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 87 57 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 88 58 Better Vampires.esp 89 59 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 90 5a Real Feeding V3.esp 91 5b SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 92 5c Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 93 5d ESFCompanions.esp female nightingale assassin armor.esp 94 5e LakeviewBathhouse.esp 95 5f WinstadBathhouse.esp 96 60 HeljarchenBathhouse.esp 97 61 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 98 62 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 99 63 FNIS.esp 100 64 XPMSE.esp 101 65 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 102 66 WeddingClothes.esp 103 67 Radiant Raiment Wedding Clothes.esp 104 68 BVLT - Human.esp 105 69 Hearthfire Coffin Cubby.esp 106 6a WolfFollower.esp campingkitnorthernranger.esp wrath of nature.esp medusa armor.esp 107 6b GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp 108 6c DfwSupport.esp 109 6d Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 110 6e LoversVictim.esp 111 6f SexLab Attraction.esm 112 70 SexLab Approach.esp 113 71 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 114 72 da_alternate_start_extension.esp 115 73 ccas_starts.esp 116 74 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp I don't know if it's an issue with my load order or just my computer or what. If anyone could help me with this, I'd be super grateful! (^_^') P.S. If you need any extra information just let me know and I'll edit the description to include the requested info. Thanks again!
Sladen2019 Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 You should install Crash Fixes and in its CrashFixPlugin.ini, make sure to set UseOSAllocators=1. It will need SKSE Plugin Preloader installed also to work. Install both things manually. Things should improve but you may also need to install ENBoost for its memory management. The latest version is 0.319 which is at the very bottom of this link. Install it manually also. http://enbdev.com/mod_tesskyrim_v0319.htm Here are instructions on how to install it. http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost Newer versions of XPMSE have the realistic version of Ragdolls built into it, so you may not need the Ragdoll mod anymore.
Grey Cloud Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 12 hours ago, LoneSheWolf said: ATI Radeon HD 4200 That is an old card. Is it also an onboard one? Either way it will struggle with that load.
skyrimowy Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 What is your CPU ? some years ago I had HD 4570... CPU athlon - 2cores but don't remember propably 2.1 GHz 4gb RAM? This card is very shit on these times Propably you played on 1280x720 resolution or lower and have shit fps? dont know what you have texture size for outdoors etc This is very simple - Too much scripts, you must very carefully modding with computer like that, not much scripts, textures the best 1024/512 and for shit items 256 and much lower , any object/record/script cause performance drop - and CPU can't keep up this... You have Amazing follower tweaks and relationship overhaul - that is very heavy for this computer i know from my own experience Skyrim.ini [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 [Pathfinding] bBackgroundNavmeshUpdate=1 bUseTaskletsToRecomputeBounds=1 [General] bRunHighLevelProcess=1 bMultiThreadMovement=1 bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1 bUseThreadedBlood=1 bUseThreadedMorpher=1 bUseThreadedTempEffects=1 bUseThreadedTextures=1 bUseThreadedMeshes=1 bUseThreadedLOD=1 bUseThreadedAI=1 bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=1 uStaticNeverFade=1 bUseHardDriveCache=0 fFlickeringLightDistance=8192 iPostProcessMillisecondsLoadingQueuedPriority=5 you can try some of these lines [they can help with loading everything or something :)]- I use these even now when have powerful rig maybe helps, if not, later I write you something more because I must go for now ah, you can also uninstall one sexlab mod and try
LoneSheWolf Posted May 30, 2018 Author Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: That is an old card. Is it also an onboard one? Either way it will struggle with that load. I'm afraid I'm not that tech savvy to know what "onboard" means. ? Would you mind clarifying? It is indeed a bad card, I'm afraid.
LoneSheWolf Posted May 30, 2018 Author Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, skyrimowy said: What is your CPU ? some years ago I had HD 4570... CPU athlon - 2cores but don't remember propably 2.1 GHz 4gb RAM? This card is very shit on these times Propably you played on 1280x720 resolution or lower and have shit fps? dont know what you have texture size for outdoors etc This is very simple - Too much scripts, you must very carefully modding with computer like that, not much scripts, textures the best 1024/512 and for shit items 256 and much lower , any object/record/script cause performance drop - and CPU can't keep up this... You have Amazing follower tweaks and relationship overhaul - that is very heavy for this computer i know from my own experience Skyrim.ini [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 [Pathfinding] bBackgroundNavmeshUpdate=1 bUseTaskletsToRecomputeBounds=1 [General] bRunHighLevelProcess=1 bMultiThreadMovement=1 bUseThreadedParticleSystem=1 bUseThreadedBlood=1 bUseThreadedMorpher=1 bUseThreadedTempEffects=1 bUseThreadedTextures=1 bUseThreadedMeshes=1 bUseThreadedLOD=1 bUseThreadedAI=1 bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=1 uStaticNeverFade=1 bUseHardDriveCache=0 fFlickeringLightDistance=8192 iPostProcessMillisecondsLoadingQueuedPriority=5 you can try some of these lines [they can help with loading everything or something :)]- I use these even now when have powerful rig maybe helps, if not, later I write you something more because I must go for now ah, you can also uninstall one sexlab mod and try I was afraid of that. Yes, I know my computer and its graphics card are old and not very good for today's PC gaming. Not to mention my graphics card is integrated and, apparently, I heard that a dedicated graphics card is better for gaming. Wish I could get a better rig. My CPU is AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 630 Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.8GHz, whatever that means. I was unaware those two mods you mentioned were very heavy. That is unfortunate. I'm going to try fiddling around with it a bit more and the suggestions that Sladen made, will get back to you guys with results. I would try your suggestions too, but I'm kinda afraid of royally screwing up shit by messing with code that I'm unfamiliar with. Not to say I don't trust you or that you don't know what you're doing, I just don't trust myself, lol. I may try uninstalling one of the sexlab mods too as you suggested if the most recent changes I made don't work. I tried updating some of my mods which were a little outdated and removing unnecessary ones like the realistic ragdolling that Sladen said I did not need anymore. I also tried removing some mods I rarely use anymore or never really used, particularly Steam workshop ones because I heard those can be rather buggy. Thanks so much for your help and everyone else's help, too! Will keep you guys updated!
skyrimowy Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 he propably means that card is integrated with CPU even that the card have a standalone memory - 512mb i think? the card is just "merge" with CPU... but I think that it's better than for example i3 with integrated with integrated HD intel 3000/4000 or 530, because have standalone memory, to avoid stuttering if textures are well optimized [max 1024 and most of them 512 - DXT1] U have nice CPU, better than mine when I had HD 4570 So don't know if our suggestions may help you The mods may be uncompatible witch each other, I mean some sexlab mods are uncompatible, but not sure also Racemenu isn't compatible with EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp and CharacterMakingExtender.esp Alternate start may corrupt some mods but personally don't know which, when I use this mod - it's only for testings purposes for fast start and fast testing thing that I'm interested with PS: these skyrim.ini lines are safety and give some boost in game, in fights, cell loadings, loading scripts etc...may be helpful, but someone can not see any difference - if they use i7 ultra ass destruction 12687382746 thread and GTX 1080 TI 10x SLI and other modern things xD
Grey Cloud Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 Onboard = on the motherboard. Integrated graphics means it is integrated with the motherboard and draws upon system RAM, as opposed to a dedicated card which has its own VRAM. Character Making Extender is now part of ECE. ECE and Racemenu can be used together but I would not recommend it in this case. Alternate Start does not corrupt some mods. I would say that the majority of players use it. Personally, I never recommend changing ini settings based on a posting in a thread. Better to follow one of the recognised and respected guides or let one of the recommended mods like ENBoost or Bethany (Beth InI) do it.
skyrimowy Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 You know, I gave a try some users - they write that some skyrimi.ini lines can help with performance and other shit I try and I was surprised that it works with powerful machine you can't see any difference propably but on low end pc... difference can be about 1-10FPS on some actions 12 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Personally, I never recommend changing ini settings based on a posting in a thread. Better to follow one of the recognised and respected guides or let one of the recommended mods like ENBoost or Bethany (Beth InI) do it. without test, you never realize that if this works or not, and you always hate these users, because why not? some of these users have some experience with this... Like me, I using very shit computer for few years and I know that these lines can be very helpful to stabilize performance and game itself without uninstalling my favourite mods because heavy scripts... you don't trust? ok your choice something not work? uninstall/backup and try something else, simply as hell Only ugridstoload can make save corrupted, nothing more - from what I know so I always keep =5 - default
LoneSheWolf Posted June 1, 2018 Author Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 5:46 PM, skyrimowy said: he propably means that card is integrated with CPU even that the card have a standalone memory - 512mb i think? the card is just "merge" with CPU... but I think that it's better than for example i3 with integrated with integrated HD intel 3000/4000 or 530, because have standalone memory, to avoid stuttering if textures are well optimized [max 1024 and most of them 512 - DXT1] U have nice CPU, better than mine when I had HD 4570 So don't know if our suggestions may help you The mods may be uncompatible witch each other, I mean some sexlab mods are uncompatible, but not sure also Racemenu isn't compatible with EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp and CharacterMakingExtender.esp Alternate start may corrupt some mods but personally don't know which, when I use this mod - it's only for testings purposes for fast start and fast testing thing that I'm interested with PS: these skyrim.ini lines are safety and give some boost in game, in fights, cell loadings, loading scripts etc...may be helpful, but someone can not see any difference - if they use i7 ultra ass destruction 12687382746 thread and GTX 1080 TI 10x SLI and other modern things xD Ah, I see, thank you. Funny you should say that, I believe I uninstalled CharacterMakingExtender.esp when I was cleaning up and uninstalling some unnecessary mods. Also, ECE isn't compatible with RaceMenu? Why not? Strange, it seems to work fine for me but I will have to do some investigating if they are incompatible. Thank you for all your help and understanding. As I said, I went and deleted mods that I rarely/never used and tried installing Crash Fixes and SKSE Plugin Preloader and changing the value from 0 to 1. It seems to have worked, my game seems to be more stable now. I tried one of the other alternate starts and I was able to play for a good couple of hours I think without crashing. I will have to try one of the SexLab starts next time and see whether or not it remains fairly stable. Thanks again for your help!
LoneSheWolf Posted June 1, 2018 Author Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 6:04 PM, Grey Cloud said: Onboard = on the motherboard. Integrated graphics means it is integrated with the motherboard and draws upon system RAM, as opposed to a dedicated card which has its own VRAM. Character Making Extender is now part of ECE. ECE and Racemenu can be used together but I would not recommend it in this case. Alternate Start does not corrupt some mods. I would say that the majority of players use it. Personally, I never recommend changing ini settings based on a posting in a thread. Better to follow one of the recognised and respected guides or let one of the recommended mods like ENBoost or Bethany (Beth InI) do it. Ah, I see, thank you very much. I tried installing Crash Fixes and SKSE Plugin Preloader and changing that value like you suggested, and it seems to have worked. I don't want to sound redundant so if it's not too much trouble you can read my reply to skyrimowy for more details. Thanks again!
skyrimowy Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Racemenu installed with ECE can make some troubles, because some files are overwritten and may not work correctly, but lot of people deciding to use two of these mods together because more option or something? Personally I don't want messed up my game and try install only compatible mods together ? I'm glad that I can help you
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