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TLDR: We need to spice up the story before the player has a sexual encouter with a NPC Mods in mind: primarily mods like Radiant Prostitution/Gigolo, Night Mistress Mansion, and similar... but in general any mod that adds flavor to the cold evenings ins Skyrim Alternative mods: Sisterhood of Dibella, SL Eager NPCs, Modders: Feel free to use this train of thought in your mods. Though I ask everybody to use this only in mods, that will be hosted here on LL and free to play. For simplicity, I call the player the "host/hostess" and the NPC the "client". LL prostitution-, brothel- and similar-mods cover a wide range of sexual encouters, sometimes inside the frame of quests. But mods do not always put great effort into the hard work to gain the client in the first place or they lack that part at all. Simply spoken they look like Talk to client win speech check have sex For my taste, this is a bit too simple and becomes repetetive. Thus it lacks variety and depth. Furthermore, a complex setting will also benefit from a wide variety of non-sexual entertainment activities. And not to be forgotten are some surrounding menial tasks necessary to make the encounter more pleasant/profitable. I try to collect and describe these surrounding conditions, prerequisites and tasks in this blog topic. I hope that modders pick up as many of these ideas as they can and use them to spice up their mods. I intend to edit & extend this posting when I stumple upon more ideas or find better ones. The unseen tasks (just for completeness) These tasks surely become boring on their own - so they should be optional if the player is interested .. or forced e.g. in a slavery mod stoking the fire, heating the house of sin buying and stockpiling the goods, food, wine, mead, clean sheets, new clothes and items, .... keeping unwanted guests outside asking the wanted guests inside welcome the new client aquiring and arranging furniture and decoration These tasks make only sense, if the story is focused on a special location with the right facilities. So far, I have only seen Night Mistress Mansion to use that direction Menial tasks Menial tasks or not directly part of the sexual encounters, but they may trigger encounters on their own. preparing food & drinks serving food & drinks cleaning clothes and dishes cleaning rooms / tidying beds arranging the place of sin, e.g. placing pillows, tasty food, fruits, wine, mead, towels at convenient places They should either be part of the surrounding activies, give buffs to please the client or simply offer their own stream for the player We can find some of these already in Night Mistress Mansion or Radiant Prostitution. Appearal To have success the host needs to have the proper appearance. clothing jewellry scent, perfume (magical effect?) be clean (Bathing in Skyrim?) illusion spells, alteration spells These should have buff/debuff effects on the chance to gain a client, to please the client (quest success) or to gain a bonus tip. Or, in the hardcore variant they enable/disable the clients attention at all Manners & ettiquette skill in speeach is the obvious one ...but there should be more ... Maybe this needs its own skill tree with perks? Or maybe something similar like https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/6355-think-tank-the-learning-curve-for-prostitution-mods/ Alluring and entertaining tasks These tasks belong already into the erotic arts. They aim to win the clients heart and make him susceptible for further sexual encounters... or make him to spend more money plain bard tasks like singing, playing instruments or reciting pleasant literature -> Bard mods could be handy for this enticing the client to buy more drinks drinking games - make the client drink more, secretly ditch own drink to stay sober drinking games - striptease games dancing (e.g.like in TDF's prostitution mod) word games - solving some riddles, it ends in a striptease anyway ... to be continued ... Semi-sexual entertainment These activities are in the grey zone, between the non-sexual and sexual part. hide and seek game (DD/Zap Blindfold) touch and guess game (DD/ZAP Blindfold) try and guess game - SL foreplay animation (DD/ZAP Blindfold) escape games (escapable Devious devices) theater play / sex show in front of the audience ... to be continued ... Who could use all this? obviously every prostitution mod could use them every brothel or other similar etablissement could use them mods around Dibella and her worshipping to a lesser degree also Mara every mod focused on seduction Sanguine related mods mods with inns, bathhouses, casinos and other locations .... even if sex is not their focus slavery mods with a dedicated location, as long as the player has at least some limited freedom Some references NNM by @Delzaron https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/3831-night-mistress-mansion/ RP/G by @-Caden- https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/5392-radiant-prostitutiongigolo/ TSD by @DeepBlueFrog https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/392-t SL PAP by @TheDriedFinger https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/403-p SLEN by @BeamerMiasma https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2182-sexlab-eager-npcs Jobs of Skyrim by LittleOrk https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25020/
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TLDR: Skyrim has crime, bounties, prisons (especially with mods) but it lacks a proper court or tribunal, where the player has to answer the charges. We need to change that. Mods in mind: primarily Prison Overhaul Patched, Sexlab Adventures, and others... and the DD series for practical reasons Modders: Feel free to use this train of thought in your mods Limitations: I ask everybody to use this only in mods, that will be hosted here on LL and free to play. I refuse to take part or support any pay-to-play mods! Justice in Skyrim today follows a simple story optional: players does something illegal a bounty is put on the player's head the player gets arrested the player waits for the end of the prison term (or enjoys the benefits of various prison mods) done What's missing is independant justice, a court, a judge, sleazy advocates, (corrupted) witnesses a proper sentence or the proof of innocence The better story A bounty needs a preceding charge - someone needs to name the wrong-doing after the arrest, you may be put into jail - temporary so we need a court session you are told your charges - this may be an immediate opportunity to talk to the judge and "convince" him that all is fake you may prepare your defense: convince an advocate to defend you, find/corrupt witnesses to speak up for you if DD/ZAP mods give that - you may be "interrogated" or tormented to make you confess depending on the setting we may need to release the prisoner temorary to do find the witnesses, or we need to move everybody into the cell for the "talks" "witness search" gives ample opportunity for it's own quests the court session itself it would be ranging from "honorable" to "humiliating" in court you could be interrogated (dialogue) and argue for your innocence ... (offer sex) the judge will finally sentence you, depending on all the actions before and your collected scores you may appeal you are free and the bounty is erased, or the mod hands you over to another penalizing mod (POP, SimpleSlavery, vanilla prison, ..) done Intended Features if possible a tracking of real player actions in game so we can come up with a list of charges against the player (e.g. "you hurt that city guard while you were shouting in a city") a generator for fake charges (configurable) and associated bounties a "credit" system or "merit" .. so each player action will gather points to influence the verdict of the judge. We would need two counters, like "guiltiness" and "severity" configurable judge - corrupt/merciful/severe - and depending on the players preferences male/female/unique NPC/random configurable witnesses - corrupt/honest/mistaken - and depending on the players preferences male/female/unique NPC/random configurable sleazy advocates - always corrupt, always demanding payment or they won't help you, NPC must be ugly and smelly.. for the flavor of it to appeal the sentence: trial by combat -> NOW we need an arena! to appeal the sentence: trial by sex -> arena? configurable sentences -> the range of possible outcomes of the court session , which mods to hand over configurable court session -> "honorable"=clothed to "humiliating"=naked+bound+... and all between configurable difficulty -> almost guaranteed innocence to almost guaranteed guiltiness the handover mods should be able to cope with the severity of the sentence your race or membership in factions may bias your "guiltiness" counter ... ... ? Examples: confessing your guiltiness in the torment phase will raise the chance of a "is guity" sentence to 100% but lowers the severity of the verdict shooing away your advocate raises "guilty" and "severe", pleasing does the opposite We could use each Jarl and their palace as the judge and the court. The stewards will be the prosecutors We could use the generals in the palaces ... either as judge or as prosecutors we could use the Jarls's bodyguards as tormentors or witnesses we could also use a special dungeon for the court... maybe an idea that helps @Inte to extend that mysterious underground dwelling Success to corrupt a witness would be a gamble with low risk but great gain but it would require speech skill (the usual convincing stuff) or sex skill (SL stats) you're a Breton in windhelm or a Khajiit anywhere in Skyrim -> tough luck ... you are always more guilty than a Nord. .... more to come later A mockup scenery Judge: Balgruuf Advocate: Nazeem Prosecutor: Farengar Tormentor: Irileth Denouncer: Ysolda Witness: Olfrid Accused: you Technical stuff I think the whole court thing is best done in a framing quest, so each court session will always go through the same sequence of stages Depending on the side conditions some stages may be shortend or skipped something like 100 - the player is charged 200 - the player is arrested 300 - the player is preparing the defense or is interrogated 400 - the court session 500 - interrogation in court or in a special dungeon 700 - the verdict 800 - the appeal 900 - end quest & handover Long-term features - they may change the whole plot the player is not the accused one, but the witness or the denouncer the player is not the accused one, but the judge the player is not the accused one, but the sleazy advocate .. (corrupting witnesses.. !) the player is not the accused one, but the bounty hunter/tormentor Dependencies or handovers Prison Overhaul Patched by @Inte -> both directions - arrests would end in prison (now, we need a charge), handover to a court session which would lead back to a prison sentence Sexlab Adventures by @Teutonic -> the crime system may lead to a court session, at best it names the charge against the player Simple Slavery by @jfraser -> a handover afetr the verdict into slavery Raven Beak Prison by @Airianna -> the court session may put the player into prison ... ? ... other mods with a crime system .. other mods with a prison system / penal system DD/ZAP series... torment is such a convenient way to get confessions where other proof is missing
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Think Tank: my scratchpad for a new mod "Kinky Dreams"
worik posted a blog entry in Random thoughts and ideas on Skyrim mods
I feel the urge to write down some thought snippets that need a lot more polishing before one can start to make a mod out of them, but... ..let's start to write them down before the flower gets lost in the garden. New mod, working title: "Kinky Dreams" TLDR: A mod about SL encounters while the player is sleeping and dreaming. Modders: Feel free to use this train of thought in your mods Limitations: I ask everybody to use this only in mods, that will be hosted here on LL and free to play. I refuse to take part or support any pay-to-play mods! Reference: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/95304-radiant-prostitutiongigolo/?do=findComment&comment=2196818 This idea is something like Sanguines Dreamland but radiant and without deeper consequences... just a bit of flavor for the boring nights. Triggered like in SL Dangerous Nights. It should be about "getting interrupted in your sleep"? But only in your mind .. just not for real... getting it back from the poor souls that you murdered (they hunt you in your dreams). It's not necessarily about rape, seduction of evil is more the taste in here. It would be triggered by one of your last kilings. bad dreams .. (being hunted, by bad and evil... this would be the rape branch and probably some other hurting and humiliating things) good dreams .. (a role in the hay with Ulfric, Elisif ... whoever).. having sex in Sovngarde crazy dreams ... Sheogorath, who else. "good evening my little mortal .. My name is Sheogorath. I'm going to meddle with your mind right now." other ghosts calling and teasing you into their realm for a good roll in the hay .. maybe a Vampire ... dreaming of Serana? evil dreams ...(YOU are the evil being here... .. go on ... rape Lord Harkon ... have fun .. ) You have a high bounty somewhere: you are likely to dream about beeing arrested and send to prison ... and have your kink there and finally Skyrim is clearly lacking the seductive monsters that are everydays life in the Witcher series ... but nothing to do about that without relying too heavy on other mods Probable dependencies: Sexlab aroused (a must, I guess) Devious Devices (should be optional for the kinky flavor) ...? Resting bonuses should be preserved or maybe manipulated, depending on the type of dream Arousal should be consistent with the result of the dream. Arousal and recent happenings may trigger the type of dream. Since this is a dream, we need to preserve the players stats, when the dreams starts and we need to restore them afterwards. And the player can't die, so we need to make sure that other mods like DA are not interfering in the dreams. (maybe by freezing health at 100%?) We may think about "learning" someting while sleeping. We would need a new Worldspace and cells in "Dreamland".. so we make sure it doesn't meddle with the reality. This is not about sleepwalking! And it should be and stay lightweight! There are some existing mods that could use this idea, because their setting seems to me very close. They could pick up these thoughts either as a feature or as a very interesting handover: Sexlab Adventures by @Teutonic - I would think this is the most closest ! Prison Overhaul Patched by @Inte - it could be a nice feature for the time in prison. SexLab Dangerous Nights by @Guffel - it could be a nice handover ... .. ? Kudos: @-Caden- triggered that train of thought in his RP/G thread- 3 comments
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TLDR: A radiant quest for a prostitution mod but not limited to that. The clients are a couple. Mod in mind: Radiant Prostitution (RP), spin-offs like Radiant Prostitution/Gigolo (RPG) , Night Mistress Mansion and similar Alternative use: thinkable is a Mara-styled or Dibella-styled mod like The Sisterhood of Dibella Modders: Feel free to use this train of thought in your mods Limitations: I ask everybody to use this only in mods, that will be hosted here on LL and free to play. I refuse to take part or support any pay-to-play mods! Reference: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/95304-radiant-prostitutiongigolo/?do=findComment&comment=2181290 Editorial note: This idea is still in "original" form. I will (try to) rewrite it in the next days to my proposed universal structure. Works only with couples and comparable pairings Though we could hint something sexual going on between siblings or simple "friends" like Rorik and Jouanne Story: A couple has decided to spice up their sexual life but has no clue what to do (it ends in a threesome) Option for an additional quest branch with a foursome if the player has a follower Stages: 10 get request letter from the innkeep 15 read letter 20 obtain a book about relationship counselling 25 read the book 30 reach the location 35 talk to the clients, ask for their sexual preferences and experiences 36 the talk needs to come up with a few hidden fantasies (animation tag selectors) but no practical ideas or experiences randomly selected tags would be nice, so repeated jobs will vary 40 player suggests a demonstration 41 optional if a follower is present AND if tags and SL sex are matching: demonstrate proper sex with the follower 42 masturbation show if alone 45 talk to clients, clients are still without clue 50 suggest a player to client demonstration 55 have sex with one client, select animation from the discussed tags 56 if follower is present and if TAGS match: follower has sex with the other client 60 talk to the clients, clients have learned a bit but are still undecided 65 suggest a threesome / foursome if follower is present 70 have threesome/foursome sex 75 talk to the clients 80 randomly one client asks for a last lesson 85 optional have the last lesson 90 optional receive a tip (No septims! But a trinket or something emotional. It should refelct their insecurity and not come over has pay-whore-have-sex) 95 return to inkeep 100 done
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TLDR: A radiant quest for a prostitution mod. The client is a priest. Mod in mind: Radiant Prostitution (RP), spin-offs like Radiant Prostitution/Gigolo (RPG) , Night Mistress Mansion and similar Alternative use: thinkable is a Dibella-styled mod like The Sisterhood of Dibella Modders: Feel free to use this train of thought in your mods Limitations: I ask everybody to use this only in mods, that will be hosted here on LL and free to play. I refuse to take part or support any pay-to-play mods! Reference: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/95304-radiant-prostitutiongigolo/?do=findComment&comment=2181266 Editorial note: This idea is still in "original" form. I will (try to) rewrite it in the next days to my proposed universal structure. Client location is either any nearby temple or a hall of the dead Client(s) must belong to the JobPriest or similar factions. Client(s) must not be part of the Dibella faction, it simply makes no sense there at all. Story The client's mind is distracted and straying from the pure focus of his/her devine duties. The client needs to get off his/her sexual tensions and has heard from other citizens, that someone with the name of "playername" can help in such delicate matters. Some special stuff is needed for the right cleansing ritual. Discretion is of utmost importance Conditions: It must be night time (soft condition, or it will not make sense) Player must not be detected by anybody else and must enter the temple unseen. Required equipment must be present Stages: 10 get request letter from the innkeep 15 read letter 20 obtain some inspiring toys/equipment (I'm thinking of candles, fruits, wine, a circlet, ... just nothing obviously sexual) 25 (sometimes) obtain special clothes (either those cleric brown robes or something random) 30 reach the location undetected at nighttime (mod needs to make sure, that all other NPCs at that location become deaf and blind or are temporarily teleported into a storage cell) 40 prepare the ritual, put on the registered whore clothes or something from the stage 25 45 the client starts the ritual ... praises his/her divine entity and pleas for forgiveness 50 the player sacrifice fruits, wine ... some other stuff from stage 20 in a big bowl (needs to be placed by the mod with the proper activator) 55 client mumbles some more religious chants and verses 60 Player has to strip 61 (IF we make DD or ZAP a dependency: the player needs to be blindfolded. No need to be devious though) 65 (IF we get dancing included in here, like in TDF's prostitution mod) player needs to dance naked 70 have sex with the poor client and relieve him/her 71 (IF we make ZAP a dependency: maybe we find a nice furniture in a religious context) - have more sex 75 clean up, redress, client says thank you 80 depending on your sucess in the quest - receive a tip or a random devine charm (an amulett perhaps?) 85 random chance near the exit: you have both been detected (either create another priest NPC or any random citizen or teleport someone back from the storage cell) 90 convince the newcomer that everything was purely harmless and according to ancient devine rituals (persuade or oral sex, but no bribe or intimidation) 95 return to inkeep (mod cleanup especially teleport everybody back!) 100 done Expected bugs: that teleportation stuff might be dangerous if the game CTDs at the wrong second or the players does something to his load order while the quest is under way. We need to make sure that this stuff is failsafe or think about something else to empty the room from any "witnesses"
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TLDR: Prostitution mods need a versatile and big collection of radiant quests to be entertaining while still repetetive by name. A structure can help to keep that pile maintainable. Mod in mind: Radiant Prostitution (RP), spin-offs like Radiant Prostitution/Gigolo (RPG) , Night Mistress Mansion and similar Modders: Feel free to use this train of thought in your mods Limitations: I ask everybody to use this only in mods, that will be hosted here on LL and free to play. I refuse to take part or support any pay-to-play mods! The structure is formed along the quest stages but it is only a frame for the plot of the real story. The real story is the important par and still needs to be told! The structure is not about any particular story at all and does not replace any of them. It's just one possible engine under the hood. So you have a plot in mind? But the plot does not need some of the proposed stages or they don't make sense in the intended story: Skip them! The master of the ceremony speaks / Prelude / the foyer 000 - technical stage - use this for reset and initializing purposes 0xx - blank, maybe background stuff , but strctly no journal entry yet Act 1 - Exposition 100 - talk to the quest giver 110 - I got a letter with details -> read it 120 - letter is read, the journal and various tasks unfold 1xx - minor stuff - story preperation type 200 - obtain knowledge, gather background - read, talk, observe, meet 210 - if possible - Hey you, modmaker! I'm talking to you : We need drama! Tell it! Here! 2xx - if needed 300 - obtain items - preperation is everything - buy, steal, craft, fetch 3xx - if needed Act 2 - Complications 400 - reach the place of action - the main actor (player) enters 410 - talk to the counter part - the client, a sponsor, the host, a steward, a shady voyeur, a majordomo, ... 420 - feel the consequences of knowledge or the lack of it 430 - feel the consequences of equipment or the lack of it 450 - appetiser - introduce yourself - someone gets a first taste 4xx - if needed 500 - the main course - do the dirty act 5xx - whatever is needed 600 - dessert - only accessible if all is going well, all preperations were successful, etc.. 6xx - whatever is needed Act 3 - Conclusion 700 - quest failed stage - do the final story telling stuff here 710 - talk to the counter part to close the bracket 7xx - if needed 790 - talk to the quest giver to close the story 800 - quest completed stage - do the final story telling stuff here 810 - talk to the counter part to close the bracket 8xx - if needed 890 - talk to the quest giver to close the story The audience leaves the theater, the cleaning staff tidies up 9xx - if needed - technical stuff only 980 - technical stage - for failed quests - only technical stuff in here 990 - technical stage - for completed quests - only technical stuff in here References:
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