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Nexus, or How I Turned a Modding Community Into a Totalitarian State


Misplaced Reality

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We need to have a chat, fellow modders. Yes, all of you, that like me have created some work, and uploaded it to Nexus, or perhaps on LoversLab, or some other website. If you are not aware then you will know that Nexus, the currently largest Skyrim modding community decided to change its policies and terms of service1.

 

Now you will be asking "So, what?" "How does this affect me?" "I don't have any problem with that." Well, I will introduce you to the problem at hand with Nexus; you are an asset. Yes, your mod, even the one with less than a thousand downloads is an asset that generates money for Nexus. That means right now, all the content on Nexus generates money for the owner of the website.

 

Surely, a big website like Nexus needs a budget to maintain so many servers accross the world that ensure you will be able to download any of the mods you want quickly. However, the problem is not about the costs; but the way you (as an author, or user) are monetized to serve such purpose that regardless on whether it makes profit, you are still treated like an asset, or an object.

 

Nexus is a really big website, that mostly has teenagers in it, let's not be mistaken; a lot of teens play The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, a lot of teens also create and use mods, and also a lot of teens may be using one of the adult mods right now. However, Nexus' approach is to cater towards a community that isn't mature enough for the game, when the game's target audience is 17.2

 

Therefore, a lot of the moderators are incapable of doing their jobs, and the very administrators are incapable of coming up with policies (that should be simple, easy to understand and to the point) and simply are eager to showcase each banned user on a common forum section to showcase who is control on the website.

 

Lets be honest, there's something terribly wrong with Nexus' administration. When you register a new account you get a long list with many options for a "premium" account and at the very bottom you have two options for a "supporter" account. That means their priority isn't supporting the website; but generating profit from the website, and your mod.

 

Nexus is monetizing your mods and possibly also makes profit for its own ends, and also at the same time it behaves as a totalirian state akin to North Korea; where the leader dictates everything to the point the rules are ridiculous as specifying which parts of the character's body can be revealed in a screenshot.3

 

I encourage all of you, fellow authors; remove your mods from Nexus. What Nexus of today is, isn't whatever it was years ago. It is a huge, corrupt and totalitarian website that believes it has authority over your work and simply hands you some tools to give you the illusion that you are in charge; but you aren't, your mods, your work generates money for them alone, your private information generates money through advertisers and in addittion to that they are more than willing to eliminate your mod in case something that doesn't befit their view is included.

 

There are accounts of Nexus staff removing mods that were made on Loverslab, and their behavior is aggressive against any other modding websites and communities about Skyrim. When we all authors of many mods, some great, some not that great, but all in all, we should be a big family united by the common passion to mod Skyrim.

 

Let us rally together against Nexus, let us remove all our submitted work from Nexus. Re-upload it anywhere but on Nexus. Let what Nexus has become dissolve into a phantom, a memory. Because, if you don't then you will allow them to do whatever they want with your content and their community and you will be condoning their unnacceptable and immoral actions towards modders and users altogether.

 

Also consider this as an announcement; any future mod I will develop will not be uploaded on Nexus, nor Nexus users will receive any first-party support about my mods from me. My Nexus account is solely used, not to interract with the community, but to simply download the mods, as long the database there serves the purpose.

 

1 http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/news/12212//?

2 http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=31575

3 http://www.loverslab.com/uploads/monthly_11_2013/post-95254-0-94098300-1385278037.jpg

 

Yours truly,

Misplaced Reality

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Mudchop

Posted

Damn, they really are gonna take this all the way. Been using the Nexus sites since Oblivion and have seen their ongoing downward spiral, but this, damn. I really don't know what to say. This is pretty much the reason my Nexus account is used just to download. I'll comment if I really like something or am reporting a bug but never for opinions or the like. I remember the times when the b&hammer was thrown willynilly and banned anyone it hit, such as the Dante moderator fiasco a while back. Sure, every mod author is different but giving someone tools of power is a temptation. Even before this there have been people who go in to butthurt rages, so this can do nothing but add to that.

...0...

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I alway used NEXUS soley as DL site for mods nothing more. If im no longer capable of DL mods unless i pay, im out its simple as that.

 

NEXUS serve its purpose DL mods nothing more its kind (example) MEGA dl site only you can search with pictures the mods which i like btw and be gone.

 

But im no mod maker im just a consumer who also want everything for free:P

 

I understand your concern as mod maker and i APPLAUDE your initiative not to upload any mod on nexus this bloody premium also annoy me alot.

 

About the kids visiting nexus and they starting to target that audience they soon get in trouble then with all the sex mods are they planning on removing them from nexus?

 

Good luck hope more deside to place there mods on LL NMM sucks anyway.

Shaydow

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@Misplaced Reality : I hear ya there. I saw the new entry on the front page, read it, and read through the new ToS. One of the reasons Celestial's is not on Nexus is because they have just to strict a policy. The fact I can't upload a mod that uses another modders assets, even if I HAVE permission to do so, if that mod is also NOT on Nexus, makes Celestial's impossible to upload there and also strikes me as REALLY going Nazi state on people. It seems as though their rules are designed to make Nexus the ONLY place to download mods, and trying to burn all other mod sites. Dick move.

 

@Mudchop : I don't think giving mod authors the ability to moderate their own mods is a bad thing. Even if the mod is "TEH BEST PHUCKING MOD EVAAAA!!" if the author ends up being a dick and acting like one, that will reflect on the amount of reviews and downloads in the end.

 

@evasiaducth : The main point of this blog entry and of Nexus is not that they are saying " you will have to pay to download mods ". The point is the Ad revenue they generate from you, as well as selling your personal information you used when signing up. Even if you never have to pay a single cent to use the site and download, Nexus is still making money off you, and as a money making asset, they should definitely NOT be treating mod authors with such disdain, since it is the authors that bring in the downloaders in the first place. 

 

As for kids visiting Nexus, I think you really need to think about things. I'm sure at any given time there is a 12 or 13 year old browsing the " adult only " section here on LL. It is very hard to police the internet, simply because it is so easy to lie.

junkacc

Posted

i blame skyrim for bringing the entitled brats and easily offended mainstream into TES.

germ

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It's funny, I never got banned from the Nexus back in the fallout, oblivion days. But since skyrim nexus has started up, I've been banned like 6 times. Usually just for stating a opinion, and not rudely either. The last time I got banned for asking a simple question, it was a temp ban that turned into a perm ban after I got into it with a admin, And the darkone himself.

   He basically said to me, bow down to my authority admit you where wrong, take the temp ban.( the reason I went off on the admin to begin with was because he was extremely disrespectful to me) When I didnt he perm banned me, and then made a complete bullshit story on my ban topic in the forums. I don't even make comments anymore, I just download. The guy who owns the site is British, the fact that he is a authoritarian doesn't surprise me at all.

 

(The question was, are those your boobs in the description?: because the mod author was female, and she had a picture of someones real breasts on the mod page. If you don't want people asking about it, then don't plaster it on the front page of your mod. It's unfair in my opinion, that I can be punished for asking a question about a picture, but she doesn't have anything said to her about the picture.)

 

Also, when they ban you, they don't remove your mods. They keep your mods up available to download, but you can't access them or modify the page in any way.  

   Also, for those of you wondering how is he still using the nexus if he has been banned so many times? and has had is Ip banned? well, there are ways around that, but last time I made a post about that here on LL, admins deleted it.

...0...

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i blame skyrim for bringing the entitled brats and easily offended mainstream into TES.

Im afraid your closer to truth then most realise or wanne hehe

s.eden

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Indeed, Nexus is by now the only database as to most (...) of the mods avalaible for TES IV (at last, as to Morrowind, there is now mwmodarchive, then, the upcoming OpenMW = :) ?

In any cases, Nexus is going very wrong theses times, even to the extend to edit private messages contents (damn, censure in 2013 online !).

That said, since most of the mods cannot be found out of there (even if, they are some others options, I there is a way to use the Mod Organiser to download from Steam for example ?).

Then, seeing the amount of modders and mods going (both the ones banned by admin or going themselves cause of "users".
On that, there will be an option for Modders to manage the comments on their mods, so, as to some parts (will need to be seen) some managament (anyone to know what moderation is about as to Internet Policy / management ?).

Pas si simple.
(Context / reality = time, name & location, then, decision > realisation).
Adaptation ?
..

Deep Red

Posted

I guess I'm just a lucky one then. I've had several warnings for referencing LL to other users, but I've never actually been banned. It wasn't until I read a story here in LL that it's against the rules to even mention this community on the Nexus. The funny thing is I've gone through their entire list of ridiculous rules and haven't seen that made explicitly clear. That website is beyond all hope now, though.

Lovely Rose

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I got banned on nexus cause someone said i was on this site,  (before i even joined this site) 

<_< kinda the only reason i joined here Lol.

 

even thou i got back on nexus with ip address change and new account name *shrug*

They didnt try to hard to keep me out

 

Nexus is getting rediculous, they ban you for anything even things they know is not true. 

Now all of this.  R.I.P a good community site turned corrupt. 

Guest Ragna_Rok

Posted

BEST... POST... EVER.

 

*gives cookies to misplaced reality*

 

anyhow, im here for my own special reasons... and my mods are now here too.

Guest Ragna_Rok

Posted

Also, when they ban you, they don't remove your mods. They keep your mods up available to download, but you can't access them or modify the page in any way.  

now that is news to me. no surprise dante banned me not after i told him to go f himself, but like 2 hours later when i started erasing all my main-files. so basically i got wasted AFTER i lost my value for them. eye opener.

 

try telling them that you go to your lawyer if they dont delete your files in case you still got stuff there.actually that was included in my last message to the sucker, and with their minds they wont risk to have their "wells dried out". quite frankly, they cleaned up my stuff really fast and good, not a single crumb left.

Guest corespore

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I took your words to heart. I honestly felt for some time i was just being unfair when i began feeling resentful of nexus for the way they were treating myself and everyone else around me. I had a lifetime membership with the site which i recently asked them to close (which they did in very short order) and, thankfully, i was lucky enough not to have posted any of my work there. I made the mistake of stating at the nexus chat before i closed my account that i put the finishing touches on several of my mods and when one of the chat users asked me when i was going to post it on nexus i opened my fat mouth and said i didn't feel comfortable posting them at nexus......thats when the emails started. I should have kept copies of them for proof but at the time i felt so offended at what they said i erased them. In a nutshell i got called a leech for not allowing nexus to exclusively host my mods (which aren't that grand in the first place.....yet). Then came the erasing of most of my forum posts followed by the constant berating in the chat. I had my suspicions as to why they would be so annoyed by a nobody modder not wanting them to host his mods there but i didn't say anything because i felt i was being a bit....i don't know.....over suspicious. Yet the fact you basically pulled the very thoughts out of my head proves (atleast to me) that my gut wasn't steering me wrong. 

So....yeah.... i only post my mods here (all open source of course) and no longer linger at the nexus of despair anymore. Your words were elegant and rang true to this humble LL lurker, and i hope you keep spreading the message.

Ozlander68

Posted

Okay, not to offend anyone but if we are still downloading mods from Nexus are we not still putting money in their pockets?

Guest

Posted

Okay, not to offend anyone but if we are still downloading mods from Nexus are we not still putting money in their pockets?

 

I doubt they get money from people downloading the mods themselves but rather from advertisements, selling your informations (if they do that) and premium memberships. So as long as you use an adblocker and never purchase premium they get jackshit from you.

Guest endgameaddiction

Posted

None of this surprises me. And it's why I do have adblock on Nexus and have never, and will never have a supporters or premium account. It's also why I will not now or ever upload any mods to STEAM. It's all about revenue utilizing your work to the benefit of their pockets in discretion.

 

 

 

I've said this before and I'll say it again. Nexus is the digital online of pyramid scam. The only reason why some mods are even banned from the site that may have assets from another author is simply because it's easier to rid of 1 person instead of 5 who's assets were being used. If modders didn't care about their work being used in someone else's project, I assure you Nexus would follow this line to the very end.

 

They play police acting like they serve justice from their very hands.

 

Sooner or later people will continue to realize the hypocrisy that place is. The TOS is constantly being changed (which is normal as all websites with a large foundation do this to protect themselves) for the benefit of themselves. Dark0ne isn't caring about the so called community. All he cares about is revenue. Money being produced and going straight to his bank account. Tossing a very small lump sum to his fellow staff, which is why TVD and the rest of them play robot. Taking orders and not caring what they are actually doing.

 

They sugarcoat it with their jibberish and creating small things to benefit the mod authors so they can sit there and smile and stay happy. But when it comes to things such as improvements, it nearly takes them a long time to make a decision. He's not doing it because he cares, No. D0 does it for the money. Again, nothing wrong with this. It's business, but why else do you think the guy himself doesn't even mod? I bet he doesn't know a damn thing about GECK or CK. Have you once seen him endorse a mod? Upload a mod? Create a mod? His background does not come straight out of modding. He found a benefit in it and created Nexus with his investment and knew it would grow. Ecommerce Entrepreneur. He thinks and works like a business man. All for the benefit of him. You think he actually spends time caring about Nexus? No, he hires college dorks to come in and make improvements to his website and even they are needed. Even NMM, which happens to be the more fail program ever. I don't use it and I already know how fail it is. Never have I seen a program in BETA stage for such a long time.

 

Let the idiots jock Nexus all the want. Sooner or later they will see what it's really about. Even these days, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Skyrim Nexus mod sites are not making noise like they used to. And I have a feeling it's because of what's been going on this year like year after year, D0 with his bullshit "It's a new year, we will be making improvements" blah blah blah.

 

 

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