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Here I am again!

Hey guys! I’m back!
I announce with joy that I will be able to play again at Skyrim and thus resume the blog on the adventures of our darling Atanéa!

 

Yeah, yesterday, Saturday morning, I went to get my new gamer laptop.
And I can tell you it’s a beautiful toy!

ASUS TUF Gaming A17.
AMD RYZEN 5000 series (8) 7 cors
Graphics cards:
AMD Radeon
Nvidia Gforce RTX 3060
DDR4-3200 RAM
16 GB ram memory

 

The seller assured me that I can put all the mods I want with even 4k mods even if I don’t have a 4k screen.

So wait tomorrow for a new chapter in the adventures of my character Atanea.

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Talesien

Posted

Sorry to hear your computer is acting up. Sucks, you checked temps? A not so uncommon problem with many laptops is their radiators/vents getting clogged, resulting in overheating components. That would be a cheap and easy fix. Everything else ... well laptop GPU's are usually not replaceable.

hana120

Posted

16 minutes ago, Talesien said:

Sorry to hear your computer is acting up. Sucks, you checked temps? A not so uncommon problem with many laptops is their radiators/vents getting clogged, resulting in overheating components. That would be a cheap and easy fix. Everything else ... well laptop GPU's are usually not replaceable.

Well, I never take it apart to clean it.

Because I don't want to break it.

I just remove the dust from the

ventilation grille.

If that's all it was, it would be nice.

But as soon as I reactivate my nvidia

graphics card (I have two), it's not

long before the blue screen comes

back.

 

Is it worth buying an eGPU just in case the card is ruined?

Swiftstep

Posted

If it's a heat issue, you can find it out with this tool: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Has a protocol-function, endures crashes. Of course, heat related crashes occur primarily when there's lot of work to be done by the GPU. If your PC crashes even when idling or fans or not very active, might be a different topic.

There is a tool under windows administration that does notice every crash - and you can investigate from there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Viewer

 

If you can find the critical error, you might find better results on the cause via the error code.

If in doubt, gather all you can and put it in technical support of SSE board. What is there to lose?

Anyways, good luck :)

hana120

Posted

58 minutes ago, Swiftstep said:

If it's a heat issue, you can find it out with this tool: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Has a protocol-function, endures crashes. Of course, heat related crashes occur primarily when there's lot of work to be done by the GPU. If your PC crashes even when idling or fans or not very active, might be a different topic.

There is a tool under windows administration that does notice every crash - and you can investigate from there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Viewer

 

If you can find the critical error, you might find better results on the cause via the error code.

If in doubt, gather all you can and put it in technical support of SSE board. What is there to lose?

Anyways, good luck :)

I spoke to nvidia on the phone

yesterday.

They told me that there's a good

chance that it's broken, given the

descriptions I've given.

Then, what I don't understand is this

morning. I called the manufacturer,

Lenovo. They told me that I could

change the graphics card on my PC.

And then I got in touch with the shop

where I bought the computer, who

told me no.

 

 

Tomorrow I'm taking it back to the shop, and I'll see what they say.

Talesien

Posted

2 hours ago, hana120 said:

Is it worth buying an eGPU just in case the card is ruined?

That depends on number of factors. Most important one, does your Laptop has a suitable connector. For a modern card you probably want a Thunderbolt 3 (or higher). While technically USB-C is Thunderbolt compatible it does not necessarily indicate that the USB-C ports on your Laptop actually reaches Thunderbolt throughput, many are limited to 10 or even just 5 Gb.

So basically before even considering a eGPU make sure that:

  • Your laptop has USB Type-C support.
  • And that at least one of those USB Type-C ports is Thunderbolt 3 capable.

Otherwise the connection will bottleneck your eGPU (or the card will refuse to work at all if it only supports the Thunderbolt protocol).

If this checks out you still need to answer for yourself the question if it's practical. I.e. if you use your laptop from many different places, taking the eGPU with you can become a hassle pretty fast, if you use your Laptop only stationary ... why did you not buy a proper desktop to start with? Cheaper (at the same power) or more powerful (at the same price) and always easier to repair.
The only real use case would be if you use your laptop at other places for working purposes (where the internal graphics is enough) and always game at the same spot (i.e. at home).

hana120

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54 minutes ago, Talesien said:

That depends on number of factors. Most important one, does your Laptop has a suitable connector. For a modern card you probably want a Thunderbolt 3 (or higher). While technically USB-C is Thunderbolt compatible it does not necessarily indicate that the USB-C ports on your Laptop actually reaches Thunderbolt throughput, many are limited to 10 or even just 5 Gb.

So basically before even considering a eGPU make sure that:

  • Your laptop has USB Type-C support.
  • And that at least one of those USB Type-C ports is Thunderbolt 3 capable.

Otherwise the connection will bottleneck your eGPU (or the card will refuse to work at all if it only supports the Thunderbolt protocol).

If this checks out you still need to answer for yourself the question if it's practical. I.e. if you use your laptop from many different places, taking the eGPU with you can become a hassle pretty fast, if you use your Laptop only stationary ... why did you not buy a proper desktop to start with? Cheaper (at the same power) or more powerful (at the same price) and always easier to repair.
The only real use case would be if you use your laptop at other places for working purposes (where the internal graphics is enough) and always game at the same spot (i.e. at home).

Well, the reason I bought a laptop is that I don't stay in the same place.

During the week, I'm at my mum's.

At the weekend, I'm at my dad's.
Sometimes at the weekend, I go to my uncle's to spend the weekend or more with my dad.

 

That's why I've got a mobile.

Otherwise, I'd have had a landline a long time ago.

Talesien

Posted

1 hour ago, hana120 said:

Well, the reason I bought a laptop is that I don't stay in the same place.

During the week, I'm at my mum's.

At the weekend, I'm at my dad's.
Sometimes at the weekend, I go to my uncle's to spend the weekend or more with my dad.

 

That's why I've got a mobile.

Otherwise, I'd have had a landline a long time ago.

No need to explain yourself, I was just making general statements.
If you move your setup every couple of days, an eGPU might work, but as mentioned might become a hassle pretty fast. Keep in mind most also require an external power supply, so we are at Laptop, eGPU and eGPU power supply.
Also forgot to add, an eGPU is likely only an option if you also use an external monitor, as few laptop screens are set up to work with an external GPU. So that is another thing to check, if you use your laptops screen for gaming.

hana120

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9 hours ago, Talesien said:

No need to explain yourself, I was just making general statements.
If you move your setup every couple of days, an eGPU might work, but as mentioned might become a hassle pretty fast. Keep in mind most also require an external power supply, so we are at Laptop, eGPU and eGPU power supply.
Also forgot to add, an eGPU is likely only an option if you also use an external monitor, as few laptop screens are set up to work with an external GPU. So that is another thing to check, if you use your laptops screen for gaming.

I dropped my PC off at the shop where I bought it.

The guy there opened it up and looked at it.

Already the ventillo is clogged.

Then he looked everywhere. And the motherboard seems to be in good condition.

Just a small heat mark.  

And a few traces of moisture.

But nothing to worry about.

I'm praying that's all it is. He's going to clean it.

 

Plus my PC can have an external card.

Talesien

Posted

2 hours ago, hana120 said:

I dropped my PC off at the shop where I bought it.

The guy there opened it up and looked at it.

Already the ventillo is clogged.

Then he looked everywhere. And the motherboard seems to be in good condition.

Just a small heat mark.  

And a few traces of moisture.

But nothing to worry about.

I'm praying that's all it is. He's going to clean it.

 

Plus my PC can have an external card.

That's both good news. Usually GPU's and CPU's are pretty good at keeping themselves from overheating too much if cooling is insufficient, albeit this self-throtteling often comes at the price of instability, like you noticed. Fingers crossed.

hana120

Posted

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

That's both good news. Usually GPU's and CPU's are pretty good at keeping themselves from overheating too much if cooling is insufficient, albeit this self-throtteling often comes at the price of instability, like you noticed. Fingers crossed.

I went looking for him an hour later.
The salesman cleaned it and told me everything was good.
I’m going to test by launching Skyrim.

hana120

Posted

23 hours ago, hana120 said:

I went looking for him an hour later.
The salesman cleaned it and told me everything was good.
I’m going to test by launching Skyrim.

So yesterday I tested it and there were no worries.

And today, it's happening again...
Tdr faillure tdr faillure tdr faillure ...tdr faillure

Nightdragon72

Posted

It was a pleasure reading you Story I hope you can a new pc Soon and Return up till then it was a good Run 

Talesien

Posted

11 hours ago, hana120 said:

So yesterday I tested it and there were no worries.

And today, it's happening again...
Tdr faillure tdr faillure tdr faillure ...tdr faillure

Now it might have several issues I suppose, but from what I heard that error tends to be software related. Did you try something like:

?

hana120

Posted

5 hours ago, Talesien said:

Now it might have several issues I suppose, but from what I heard that error tends to be software related. Did you try something like:

?

I've tried everything.

1) Restore to an earlier date before the problem.

2) Uninstall reinstall the card

3) Follow the tutorials

4) Reinitialize the pc. Even so, the blue screen came back.

One moment I was almost there, I had launched skyrim yesterday and when it loaded, it started again.

Nividia had told me on the phone that, given the symptoms I'd described, there was a good chance she was dead.

 

 

I'm going to wait until my dad can buy me a new one.


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hana120

Posted

13 hours ago, Nightdragon72 said:

It was a pleasure reading you Story I hope you can a new pc Soon and Return up till then it was a good Run 

I should be able to get a new one this month.

My father is waiting for his paycheck so he can buy me one.

It'll be either this weekend or around the 25th.

I'm leaning more towards the 25th.

In the meantime, I'll just have to be patient.

Nightdragon72

Posted

Yeah i know how you feel had to replace mine last month after my old One broke after 13 years of Service to me luckly i have a well paid job so i could afford one

hana120

Posted

10 minutes ago, Nightdragon72 said:

Yeah i know how you feel had to replace mine last month after my old One broke after 13 years of Service to me luckly i have a well paid job so i could afford one

He’s only three years old.
Then it’s kind of my fault.
I didn’t think about getting it cleaned in time where I got it.
As a result, it got too hot and the card took a hit.
It’s okay, I only have a week or two to wait.

Once to change it, I had to wait several months!
I’m not telling you how long it took.
Skyrim, I missed WoW but couldn’t play it.

 

Oh computers, it’s capricious!

Talesien

Posted

4 hours ago, hana120 said:

He’s only three years old.
Then it’s kind of my fault.
I didn’t think about getting it cleaned in time where I got it.
As a result, it got too hot and the card took a hit.

 

As the saying goes: Life is a tough teacher, it punishes first and teaches second.
At any rate, if a clogged exhaust causes permanent damage to the system without prior warning I would say there is some degree of manufacturer fault as well. Normally, those components are build to throttle/shut-down if they get too hot, in order to prevent any permanent damage. Since that does not seem to have happened here, it's safe to assume the manufacturer made errors or took shortcuts during the development.

hana120

Posted

30 minutes ago, Talesien said:

As the saying goes: Life is a tough teacher, it punishes first and teaches second.
At any rate, if a clogged exhaust causes permanent damage to the system without prior warning I would say there is some degree of manufacturer fault as well. Normally, those components are build to throttle/shut-down if they get too hot, in order to prevent any permanent damage. Since that does not seem to have happened here, it's safe to assume the manufacturer made errors or took shortcuts during the development.

My computer is a Lenovo.

I saw on the Internet that many complained about them.

Personally, until last Thursday, I never had any problems with them.

And the problem with the graphics card, I’d say it’s more my fault.

I didn’t think about getting it cleaned up.

The seller had opened it in front of me and the ventilator was crushed to the point that the fins could no longer spin.

 

There were heat marks too.

I could’ve taken a ride myself, if there’s a cell phone.

The problem is that you need the screen, the keyboard. It takes up space and I never stay in the same place.

During the week I am at my mother’s; on weekends and holidays at my father’s.

Sometimes I go to my uncle’s with my dad so I need my computer.

 

I mean, now I know that it has to be cleaned at least once a year to prevent it from getting too dirty and what just happened to me.

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