Caiena

I think you would agree that there are countless ways to trigger all kinds of sex scenes in Skyrim, but not a single proper way to connect sex with sleep. That is exactly why the idea of using the vanilla sleep mechanic came to my mind. From my point of view, this is the simplest and most elegant way to implement a sex + sleep interaction. From a gameplay perspective, it would create a complete illusion that the player character actually slept with their partner, rather than just had sex and walked away. Of course, this is only my personal opinion. I do not have the skills to create a mod of this complexity myself, and I honestly do not know which technical approach would be the easiest or most practical to implement. However, I do have a good imagination — so I tend to let ideas flow freely. 🙂

I would like to propose an idea for a mod to the respected Skyrim modding community. Everyone knows that there are many mods that include sex. There are quest mods and dialogue mods where conversations revolve around sex or lead to it. However, if you look closely, I personally cannot recall a single mod where sex is meaningfully connected to sleep. What I mean is that most sex mechanics do not provide any continuation or follow-up. This might be acceptable for prostitution-related content, but it feels like a missed opportunity when it comes to relationships between lovers, spouses, or long-term partners. I might say something silly now, so please don’t judge me too harshly right away — but maybe it’s time to bring back the black screen instead of always showing sex scenes? For example: A husband says to his wife, “Let’s go to bed.” They approach the bed, and at some point a menu appears with several options, such as: Sleep together Sex + Sleep together Sex + Sleep together + Morning sex There could be many variations. After choosing an option, the game proceeds similarly to vanilla sleep: the player selects the sleep duration, and the characters fall asleep. The core idea of this mechanic is to add greater ambivalence and depth to gameplay. Firstly, dialogue between the player character and NPCs could meaningfully reference sleeping together. This wouldn’t just be empty talk — it would be a concrete, mechanically supported interaction. Secondly, it could genuinely diversify both family relationships and romantic relationships. It could also allow for one-night encounters — in taverns, during travel, near campfires, in dungeons… anywhere. As an additional layer, it would be great if the game tracked the player’s choices: sex could be recorded in statistics, relationship ratings between the player and NPCs could change accordingly, and other similar systems could be affected. That’s the idea. Perhaps someone here might find it interesting and decide to bring it to life.

Yeah, I see. In this case, the last translation is the most complete.

I mean, if a large number of mods are used in the Game, it is difficult for the Player to understand which mod this message belongs to. For example, when I make translations into Russian, I mark all available messages on the screen and pop-up windows. The tags are very simple and clear - [Mod name] Message text. Thus, I sometimes have to mark even the beginning of a Dialogue if it is not clear where it comes from. Of course, I'm not insisting on anything, but if the Authors hear my words, it may help to avoid misunderstandings.

I'm a little confused about the versions. This is a translation for a file dated 24.02.2025. I believe this is SLSF Reloaded 3.0, is that so? SLSF Reloaded_russian (SLSF Reloaded 3.0 by Caiena).7z

I would like to say a few words about the translation into other languages. The fact is that there are serious gender differences in some languages. For example, in Russian, different versions of the Noun are used for a Man or a Woman. In addition, depending on gender, the endings of verbs and adjectives change. I want to know the Author's opinion, how would he react to the translation made into Russian for the Female Avatar? I want to explain that for Russian-speaking Players, rudeness and unnaturalness will be felt in the descriptions of the MCM menu if the gender characteristics of the native language are ignored. What could be the alternative? If you make two separate translations for the Male Avatar and for the Female, it will look silly. Yes, besides the Feminine and Masculine genders, there is also a Neuter gender in Russian, but this version of the translation should not be considered, it will be completely bad. In the event that the respected Author finds this option acceptable, here is the link to the Russian translation file. For 3.0-BETA SLSF Reloaded_russian (by Caiena).7z

Oops... I didn't know it was that serious! Although, I have a lot of friends who will disagree with You. Many people consider bare feet to be more erotic than buttocks. But I understand you. No, that means no... May I say a few words... No, no, I get it! Just thinking out loud. For example, the most basic thing is mods containing dialogues and comments. Once upon a time, only two keywords were used in dialogues about nudity - ArmorCuirass and ClothingBody from the vanilla game. Then, the SexLabAroused.esm family appeared as a working tool with its own list of keywords. Now Advanced Nudity Detection.esp has appeared, which contains another database of Keywords. So it remains to wait for another Barefoot Framework.esp to appearance containing keywords about shoes. Then BareheadedFramework.esp and so on. And when SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm finally dies (or maybe it won't), SLSF Reloaded.esp, State of Dress.esp and numerous Armor Clothes and Weapon Frameworks and other databases will take its place. Surely writing game dialogues will become even more interesting! I really hope that you will correctly interpret my bad character and not take it personally. Your mod is great and made soundly and with love. But if you look at the big picture... Is it worth breeding more entities? There is already no unity among modders.

It's clear. Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry that I wrote about it so late and you've already finished working on the Mod. I should have done this much earlier, when there was still hope. I mentioned the term Eroticism solely from a general view of the interaction of mods. Your mod is technically a database containing keywords. My idea was just to add a few additional keywords to the general database. For example, bare feet, sandals, boots, etc. I'm sorry...

NymphoElf, I want to say a big thank you for the work done. This is an extremely serious contribution to the development of nudity in Skyrim! But I have a question about your plans for the future. If I understand correctly, AND is designed to detect nudity in three parts of the body - Breasts, Vagina and Buttocks. Is it possible to add another body part in the future - bare feet? Agree, fully closed high leather boots or sandals that completely open the foot are too different things. Yes, I understand that AND only allows you to assign keywords and does not define Sexuality. But the keywords from this mod expand the capabilities of other Modders. At least to date, I do not know of any Mods that would deal in detail with the identification of various shoes in terms of their eroticism. Thanks!

I am a proponent of simplicity - I turned it on and everything works out of the box. But I understand perfectly well that the Alternative to Death is a very multifaceted aspect of the game. There have been many attempts to implement this mechanics, but not all Authors have managed to achieve good results. This mod is interesting to me because it initially works with LoversLab. Yes, the huge number of settings scares me, but I want to test this work. Thank you very much for your work!

A very curious mod! I'm sure there were fewer toggle switches on the spaceship on which the Americans landed on the Moon than in the MCM menu of this mod! 😁

It is likely that we are talking about the same thing. I should take a closer look at the Mod in the game. I hope that in the very near future I will have such an opportunity. However, I would like to share my thoughts, which are the result of observing the progress of LoversLab. Here each Author has his own point of view, his own understanding of the subject. Someone listens to the opinions of other people, someone on the contrary, stubbornly proves his case. This is a wonderful situation from the point of view of personal creativity, but it is a disaster for the coordination of work. Very often, an excellent programmer is not able to come up with a good plan for quests or write fascinating dialogues in which the characters of the Actors would manifest themselves. It is very sad that many good ideas remain unfulfilled for this reason. People leave modding because they get tired. It seems to me that it would be great if the "Old Mods" found a new life, used modern tools and pleased many people. Of course, these are just my dreams! But I love to dream! Who will forbid me to do this? As for the patches for this mod, my opinion is absolutely unequivocal - every player should have a choice. Let people decide for themselves what they are interested in and what is not. I have very little experience in modding, but this is quite enough to understand how difficult it is. A person needs to get a fairly wide range of knowledge and fill himself with a bunch of bruises. This is called getting experience. In addition, the Author needs to be able to work in a sufficiently large number of programs. Therefore, I want to express my gratitude once again for Your Work! Thank you.

I can't say about myself that I'm a big fan of DD. I am sure that one dozen different DD devices would be enough to solve 90% of the tasks within the existing mods. It's much more exciting to play gameplay mods. Your mod is like this. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to evaluate the mod's work in the Game yet, there were some technical problems. But I have carefully read the description and comments. I was a little surprised by the general concept of exhibitionism. It seemed to me that there was not enough motivation to expose the Heroine. If a Player wants to see his Heroine naked on the screen, then some plugin is not needed for this. Quite another thing is a Role-playing Game in which everything can be subordinated to some kind of Game Mechanics. For example, the Heroine has very sensitive skin. If she does not bathe in water for a long time, her skin begins to itch and she has to undress. For example, the heroine digs too enthusiastically in garbage cans and becomes infected with a skin disease with a similar result - she has to undress. She opened the wrong container and the curse of Nudity fell on Her. I understand that a lot has already been implemented in Your plugin and the works of other authors, but now I'm talking about the Rules of the Role-playing Game. We must assume that our Heroine is pure and chaste. She is not at all inclined to exhibitionism, however, various gaming events begin to dramatically worsen her life. For example, She begins to slowly lose Health, Stamina, or magic. If the Heroine does not want to die, there is only one way out - to strip naked and frantically search for an Antidote, Medicine or an Altar on which to get rid of the Curse. I'm not talking about the technical implementation of an event, but about cause-and-effect relationships. This is a kind of emotional swing that many people like. Unfortunately, I don't know how to create complex plugins myself. I can only walk around and give advice to other people with a smart look. But I hope for a miracle. What if someone listens and implements something similar?

I want to thank the Kanlaon for the opportunity to recall a long-forgotten art! But I was upset by your refusal to continue working on this mod. I'm not making any reproaches, I perfectly understand Your motivation and respect Your choice. But who will forbid a Gamer to dream? Today, when there are such great mods as ArousedRedux, StateOfDress, Gossip and SS+. And there are many more good works that could be used in the development of the concept of this work.

Hello everyone! And the most heartfelt wish of all the best to the Author - factoryclose! While researching the stuffing of version 3.0, I found incomprehensible things. For example, one NPC phrase looks like this: "Gods... It's like you want to be raped. Are you that horny?" The following parameters are indicated in the condition: PlayerRef WornHasKeyword ArmorCuiras = 0 AND PlayerRef WornHasKeyword ClothingBody = 0 AND In the response branch of the dialogue there is such a phrase NPC: "Uh... I thought you were that kind of...person." The following parameters are indicated in the condition: PlayerRef WornHasKeyword ArmorCuiras = 1 OR PlayerRef WornHasKeyword ClothingBody = 1 AND Another example: "Hoh... And why should I listen to a bitch like you? You're in no position to raise your voice, woman. Look at yourself. I'll punish you for your insolence, bitch, by using your body." Conditions: Subject GetIsSex Male = 1 AND Subject GetIsSex Female = 1 AND Obviously, this line of dialogue is a dead end. I found several similar inconsistencies. I would like to know if this is the author's idea, a groundwork for the future, or a mistake?