Heliotropic

@00799700 Believe me, those nipples and areolae have been a constant headache for me. I've completely deleted them and redone them 3 times and no matter what I do, identical vertex position and weights still result in this anomaly in game. Just getting it to the state that it is was hours of adjusting weights to the hundredths one at a time and loading the game up. I legit have no idea why mirrored vertices would render differently, but that's The Sims for you. I hope that I'll eventually be able to tweak the weights in such a way that this is no longer a problem, which is a painstaking process especially now that the poly count is so high, but for now I'm afraid I have no good solution for that mesh deformation other than to say it's slightly less pronounced depending on your Chest Depth and Fit/Fat settings.

@00799700 Good catch! Looks like I missed a stitch in the mesh. I've uploaded a new version that should fix that.

Small update! Update to the Nude Top mesh that's much higher poly. The breasts now sit a bit lower on the chest, are slightly less voluminous, and are angled out slightly from the center of the chest. Overall I think it improves the overall shape of the breasts considerably, but by shifting them lower than the game expects them to be relative to the bones on the model they can deform if the Chest Depth slider is outside of the sweet spot. As such, I've left the lower-poly, more compatible mesh from the previous version as an option. I've also greatly improved upon the Side Tie Top mesh, so that's one more top your more well endowed Sims can put on and actually look good in! You can see both the updated Nude and Side Tie meshes in the screenshots. Both the new and old stand-alone Nude Tops tested and working with WickedWhims body selection tool. I'm afraid I can't promise to tackle the project of thiccness below the waist. The last time I looked into it, it seemed a lot more daunting a task than what I managed to do with the CAS Breast slider. I'm afraid that for now all I can do is recommend the sliders I mention in the OP for Mia, and those others have linked here in the thread.

Just added 2 new tops, hugely improved the bikini mesh, and added another bottom mesh to Navels. Also updated the preview file images to reflect the increased Heavy Boobs slider from 1.5 and to showcase all the tops I've done so far. New tops require the Realm of Magic and Discover University DLC, new bottom requires Outdoor Retreat DLC.

@GeorgeGuest if your Sims look the same before and after installing Heavy Boobs either it was never installed or it hasn't been removed. If by "[my Sims] have the breasts from this mod" you mean they have larger than vanilla breasts for all outfits that means you have a breast slider mod somewhere in your mods folder, either from my mod or another one. My slider mod was previously called [Helio] Heavy Boobs.package and is now [Helio] HB Slider.package. If either of those files are anywhere in your Mods folder that'll be the culprit. It's possible, however, that you had a conflicting slider mod preventing my slider mod from ever loading. The most common alternative breast slider mod I know of is EVOL_EVOLVED's Breast Augmentation mod. If that or any other slider mod is in your mods folder odds are my slider mod was never actively loaded in your game in the first place, and after removing my mod you still see the mod that was active all along. If you mean that my nude mesh (default or stand alone) is appearing in your game, that means those files are still in your mods folder somewhere. However, like my slider mod, it's possible you have another default nude mesh replacement that was overriding my mod and the HB default nude mesh may never have been active in your game. I can be very hard to tell nude meshes apart, and it's possible you have another one kicking around your mods folder somewhere. If you're positive that no files from my mod remain anywhere in your Mods folder, and that no other mod that does a similar thing is there, then my or some similar mod is bundled with another mod you have. If that's the case you'll need to troubleshoot your mods to zero in on the culprit. To do this: Go to your ...\The Sims 4\Mods\ folder and move all the files there into a temporary folder elsewhere, like on your desktop Take half of the files from the temporary folder and move them back into your ...\Mods\ folder If it's a nude mesh problem, you'll need to make sure you include a mosaic sensor removal mod to see if the problem persists Load the game and check if the undesired mod is active. If it is, cut your \Mods\ folder in half again, otherwise move the untested half of your original \Mods\ folder back into your \Mods\ folder Keep testing and cutting your \Mods\ folder in half until you isolate the problem mod

@randomchick29 If you're using MCCC, the "maximum" for the slider template can be a little wonky and hard to intuit. For starters: you have to make sure that you have a template set for the relevant age group for your Sim (Adult doesn't apply to Young Adult or any of the others, you have to make templates for each), and you have to make sure it's enforcing that template. Under "Apply Appearance Template" the default option is "Manual Checking", which means you have to apply the template yourself. In fact, unless you have it set to "Zone-in" checking odds are the template hasn't actually been applied to your Sim. First, make sure your Sim's breast size value is in fact low by using MCCC's CAS options, going to "Set Body Part Value" and checking "Chest Size". If it's over 30 then you know the template wasn't applied. You can either set it to a lower value there or click "Set Appearance by Template" under MCCC\CAS. Honestly I'm not super sure how the pregnancy system works in TS4. I just ran my Sim through the stages using MCCC and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It doesn't change the Chest Size value, and if your Sim is at Chest Size 100 it has no effect. It's like its own slider modifier that makes whatever Chest Size value you're at approach the appearance of Chest Size 100. As a temporary solution I'd suggest to manually set the Chest Size value really low until pregnancy is over, though it seems that even at -100 a Sim's breasts remain pretty considerable. I'll do some hunting to see if I can come up with the game asset controlling this. If I can find it I can probably mute the effect, the only problem is finding it as I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for.

@firstya That's a very interesting bug you've got there! It's a texture one and not a mesh one so I'm not sure how it relates to Heavy Boobs, but crazier things have happened! If I had to guess, I'd say that the skin texture you're using has blank nipple regions expecting the player to use the Female Body Details mod by Wildguy. Try downloading that mod and selecting a nipple texture from the Skin Details section in CAS (same place my cleavage overlays are) and let me know if that works for ya! That failing, you'll have to point me to the skin texture mod you're using so I can take a look at it. @munkendrunkey The Options folder is not intended to be dropped into your Mods folder. If you want to use those options you drag the file from the Options folder into the Heavy Boobs folder. The Alternative sliders override each other and conflict, and depending on your folder structure one will be loaded and the rest will be discarded. Have only the slider you want in your Mods\Heavy Boobs folder. @Xatos What you're describing here is the Mesh Deformation I mention so often in my description of this mod. Every vertex of a Sim has weights that tell them where to be relative to bones. Vertices without the L_Breast or R_Breast weights don't move relative to the breast "bones" or slider. Every top made by EA (or another modder not using Heavy Boobs) has a certain "maximum size" in mind for their breasts that they account for when painting weights. Every breast slider mod increases the size of a Sim's breasts beyond the point the meshes were designed to handle, so things get jagged and ugly. The solution is for me (or another modder) to modify the tops' mesh to account for the increased size of the breasts. This is a painstaking process. I'm afraid that the HB Bra mesh has not been updated since its very first iteration when the slider was much smaller, so it looks pretty rough when applied to the larger bosoms of the updated slider. I left the bra mesh in there as an option for those Sims not at breast slider +100, but it isn't going to look great for those in the top percentile of breast sizes. Dragging my feet on the bra because it requires texture alterations as well as mesh ones to look good.

@Drewsph77 Glad I could help make your character possible! @psycatozzy The nude mesh (HB Nude Default Top.package) has only changed marginally and there should be no noticeable difference between the one in v1.5 and the one that was in v1.3. I honestly didn't think I'd changed it at all until I noticed the poly count was off by 12. The real jump comes in the form of the slider (now HB Slider.package, formally just Heavy Boobs.package), which deforms the mesh more than it did previously. If you like the size and shape afforded by the previous version, I recommend: Back up your current Heavy Boobs folder, or the files however you have them arranged, and remove them from your Mods folder Copy the Heavy Boobs folder from v1.5 into your mods folder Go into the Options folder in 1.5c and navagate to Alternative Sliders, then Small Copy HB Slider.package from "...\Heavy Boobs 1.5c\Options\Alternative Sliders\Small\", paste it in "...\Sims 4\Mods\Heavy Boobs\" and overwrite the HB Slider.package already there HB Slider from the Small folder is the same slider mod that was in v1.3. Doing this will give you the new Base Game top edit and the Backyard Stuff top if you have the DLC, as well as the additional cleavage overlay options. If you use WickedWhims the stand-alone nude top from the v1.5c Options folder also includes compatibility with the nude top selection tool.

Alright, I've added Large and Huge alternatives for slider replacements in the Options folder of the mod. Those of you for whom being a mere titty monster isn't enough, you can now be a titty kaiju. @alexlll I'm afraid the addition of new sliders is a bit beyond the scope of this mod and my abilities at present, especially for one so specific in nature. What you're describing is the X axis, or width of each breast, which is modified by my slider mod; just not in a way that can be directly controlled. I recommend checking out Hellfrozeover's Female Chest Width and Depth Slider and Cmar's Breast Separation Slider, as they both influence the X axis of the breasts. Hopefully between the two you can get an effect approximating what you're looking for.

@BlackWidow22 I've added Mia to the mod page and have included a list of CC I use. Enjoy! @AndarielHalo & @Drewsph77 The new slider is only just barely larger than the old XL slider, though it has marginally different proportions. As seen in the preview shots is just about as big as they can get with Heavy Boobs without going wild on the weight slider. I'll include a new XL slider option with the next release for those of you still unsatisfied with the available hugeness, but I gotta warn ya with the meshes in The Sims 4 being what they are it probably won't be pretty ?

Alright, update posted! It's technically not the end of the week in some time zones, so I just managed to pull it off. I know it's not much and the mod's hardly in a complete state, but at least now everyone has the option to decide if it's "good enough" and play with it anyway as I do. Thanks for the comments everyone! I'm pretty wiped out after tidying up the original post and file page and I'm sure I made some mistakes packing up the mod, so be sure to let me know if something's broken!

I want to thank everyone who's commented and provided support for this mod in my absence. R-Lo, swimfish, 2cool4u_1, Chipendale, soporosyntic, and anyone I might've missed; thank you so much for helping others to get this mod working and even going so far as to update it for a new WickedWhims feature! The good news is I plan on posting an update! The bad news is that it's in a terribly frustrating state. I bumped up the breast size slider max considerably, but I haven't updated the old Heavy Boobs meshes to match the larger slider. The nude, tank top, and bikini mesh hold up ok, they just aren't great. The bra mesh might as well not be there at all for those who want their characters at 100% breast size. I've also added two more tops to the mod! One is from before the size increase and looks a little rough, but the low cut base game tank looks pretty good and I finally updated the cleavage overlay to accommodate the increased size. I've also started a side project I'm going to include where I've added 3D navels to some legs meshes with exposed midriffs. There's a lot more I want to do; I wanna update all existing meshes with the new slider max, I wanna add more swatches to the tops I have, and there are so many tops I wanna work on that I haven't even started yet. But I honestly have no idea if I'm ever going to have the time or resources to get this mod to a state where I'm really happy with it, all I can do is submit what I've got. There's a bit I still have to do before I can post the update though. I gotta figure out WW's top selector, expansion-lock the legs navel meshes, and move everything into a ReadMe because maintaining the first post was getting out of hand before I went AWOL and was a big factor in my burn out. Hopefully I'll be able to get it updated tonight, or at the very latest some time this week! Until then here's a preview of the new slider and top:

All breast slider mods conflict with the slider mod in Heavy Boobs. If you have a breast slider mod in your mod folder in addition to the one included with Heavy Boobs they're conflicting and one of them is not being loaded. No other slider mod will conflict. Sorry for the lack of updates these last weeks, was busy all last week and away from my mod machine this week.

What's happening is that accessories/skin details all have to occupy one of several "slots" that the game uses and only one item can occupy a slot, so when by chance two custom details use the same slot one replaces the other. I'll include options in my next update to deal with conflicts.