BUG: Sex Autonomy only works on opposite genders

[Dogamai]

The Sex Autonomy OFTEN doesnt work for cross gender partner selection, from all of the tests I have done.  

 

SPECIFICALLY,  I am referring to large groups of sims of the same sex rarely or never beginning or joining random sex interactions while "Highest Autonomy" is on.

 

This includes every possible combination of settings in WWs.   Even with Any Gender selection.

 

To be clear again:   this problem doesnt seem to arise nearly as often when in low population settings  (if there are just a few sims on a lot)  same sex interactions do occur, but at a lower rate than opposite sex interactions occur.

 

I am really focused on the High Autonomy settings in high population environments.  The rates are disproportionate, and there are many 'strange' occurences as well, such as people teleporting out to a park bench to have sex with a stranger of the opposite sex, instead of with their SOULMATE partner, sitting right next to them on the couch, who happens to be the same sex...  (obviously with Always Accept/Instant Start switches on,  its not so much the teleport that is wierd, its the distance they go to find a partner, when they already have a partner right next to them)

 

 

This is the result, and Semi-repeatable experiment:  

 

1) Fill a room with romantic decor, 15 sims of just one gender (15 females for example) all ADULT just to be certain its not age problem, and lock the door for everyone  (no one escapes).  Preferably do this in an actual residence, and put some beds and couches in the room (so they consider it a Comfortable space.

 

2) Add the "Hypersexual" property trait to your property.

 

3) Turn on the "Manual NPC Sex control" cheat in WWs. Also set NPC Sex Interaction Duration to something like 10 minutes. Autonomy highest, gender preference none,  and "always accept" for all.

 

4) Start half of the sims doing solo sex interactions around the room.

 

5) let the 10 minutes fly by and watch.  The result:  No sims join any other sims. No sims autonomously start sex with another sim.

 

6) stop all interactions.   Add 3 sims of the OPPOSITE gender  (actual sim base frame, not "trans" custom gender sims) to the room. 

 

7)  again,  start half of the original sims doing solo sex interactions, let the game play.

   

   The result:     within seconds,  all 3 of the new opposite gender sims will join current solo interactions in the room.  Stop those interactions and within seconds, they join someone else.   Stop all interactions and just let the sims wander around chatting for a bit, and within a few minutes, at least one of the new opposite gender sims will start a new interaction with another sim.

 

 

(note:   after many repeated tests it seems sometimes noncis interactions will occur, but their occurrence rate is extremely low compared occurrence rate of sex between opposite sexes.  Is this somehow intentional?)

 

You can do this as many times as you want and the result will be the same.

 

Conclusion:    WWs autonomy is specifically designed such that it Heavily Favors interactions between sexes, instead of same sex interactions, when "High Autonomy" is turned on, regardless of Gender Preferences that are set in WW. 

 

REQUEST!      PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS TURBO  !!!!!!!   LOVE YOU!

 

SPECIFICALLY:   It would be amaze if you Add these preferences to WickedWims settings !   :

 

  1)    Edit Variable:  Maximum potential partners for autonomy interactions  (currently is a hidden variable that is random between 2 and something unknown. Please reveal this variable to us (allow us to see AND edit it!), thank you!

 

  2)    Sex Autonomy gender preference PER GENDER.  (allow to select restrictions on potential autonomy sex partners:    [this gender] accepts: [same gender only], [opposite gender only], [same gender preferably], [opposite gender preferably], [Any Gender/No Preference]             ((this doesnt have to be option for individual sims, should just be general universal setting, though individual settings would be cool too...))

 

  3)    and additional Sub-options specifically to Autonomy of "partner selection" decisions, separate from "during Interaction" settings:   [use base sim frame as gender], [use Custom Gender physical body type as gender],  [use Custom Gender genitalia as gender]           ((this, also, doesnt have to be option for individual sims, should just be general universal setting, though individual settings would also be cool.))

                           

  4)    finally, a control for how often Random Interaction potentials are triggered.  [rarely] [sometimes] [often] [very often] [constantly]        this would be very very helpful, having control of how often the game decides to setup a random interaction, to tune the behavior for different situations as they occur, instead of guessing when or if anything will happen.

 

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

 

PS;  Love your work! Been using it for ever I cant wait to see future improvements! LOVE YOU!

 

PPS:   maybe an entirely better way to approach this would be to make a separate Autonomy Setting like "Orgy Autonomy"  that wraps in the above variables, then make a simple option on the wheel like "Start/End Orgy"     ???   

[Cock Sucker]

I have a lesbian couple and they get it on without my actions, so im assuming your missing something in the settings or maybe anims?

[Dogamai]

could you post your specific settings so I can compare?  

 

also, try my experiment above in a fresh game and see if it plays out differently for you.

 

my primary focus is on high autonomy - zero relationships situations, not so much private romantic situations, so the autonomy system may function better in heavily relation based autonomy with few other sims around, im not sure. 

 

I havent tested private noncis autonomy much. Ill try to run some tests on that specific situation and see what I come up with.  If I cant get that to work like it does for you then maybe I am having a bigger problem.   ill see what I can find out

 

 

[Dogamai]

So I did some more testing and I found the problem still exists.  Though I am even more unsure what the cause is, though it seems to still be related to the Male vs Female Base Sim frames somehow.

 

I created a new household, with 2 unrelated female adult sims.

set their romantic relationship to 50.

filled the house with flirty emotion lamps.

set the property perks to Hypersexual and Romantic.

set WW's settings the same as I had previously (high autonomy, no gender preference, always accept)

marked the household as unplayed.

visited the house with another sim, and let the timer roll for a few minutes.

result:    the two female sims do indeed begin sex after a few minutes, and will do so every few minutes afterwards.  So for this situation it seems to work fine.

 

however,   I immediately Exported these WWs settings.

 

launched a new game.

brought 10 random single female sims to a single house full of flirty lamps, with hypersexual and romantic traits. (none of the sims were part of the household that owned the house.)

imported the 'working'  WWs settings.

set all their relationships and friendships to 100

set all to unplayed.

visited house with another sim. (technically it was the sim that owned the house, i just put them in a sealed basement)

let the timer roll.   for almost 40 minutes real time.

 

result:     none of the females begin sex interactions, though they constantly walk around kissing/greeting each other.   every 3 or 4 minutes, a random Male sim will be walking down the road and one of the female test sims will randomly start sex interactions with this complete stranger, out on a park bench or something, away from the property.  

 

If i stop the interaction, and bring the female back to the house, then a few minutes roll by an some other random male stranger sim walking down the road half a block away will become a sex partner for one of the random test females.

 

The females never begin interaction with eachother.

 

So....     clearly some bugs here, but nailing down their specific location going to be a bit more complicated.    Still seems to be hinged on the Male Sim Frame, since the lasbians go out of their way to travel down the block to screw some random dude, rather than their house full of naked soulmates......

 

Or perhaps the noncis autonomy is locked to properties owned by at least one of the potential partners, but cis autonomy is not restricted this way?

 

Ill try some more tests.

 

 

 

 

[Dogamai]

Even further testing makes the problem even more confusing.

 

The number of interactions within a property wildly fluctuates.  If all adults, and evenly matched number of male to female,  the number of interactions per day is maybe 5 or 6.

With all of one sex,  the number of interactions is 1 or 2 per day.

With a disproportionate ratio of sexes, the interactions per day skyrockets....  usually.  but then not not always, sometimes it stays very low....   ????

 

It also appears sims are preferring 'new' partners instead of previous partners to some degree, though in some cases two sims seem to get stuck as exclusive partners even without any relationship  (meaning they will always go back to the same partner even if the distance is much greater between them than another sim option.)  ...  maybe?

 

Sometimes sims will teleport out of buildings across the map to a random bench to bone some random stranger.. 

 

im starting to think the behavior of each 'type' of new interaction  (these options in WWs:  Random Sex, Random Solo, Random Join, Watch Sex switch, Romantic Conversation...) are perhaps misaligned.

 

for example, Random Sex may greatly favor random opposite sex stranger, in open location,  before it even tries other scenarios.

whereas Random Solo rarely seems to happen anywhere other than private spaces

I have actually never really witnessed autonomous "Watch Sex" actually even happen,  though "sex reaction" seems to work.

Random join seems to favor opposite sex first as well, though perhaps it is better about relationship checks, random join occurs often in open spaces, but sims rarely seem to notice others for random join when they are in a house, probably because of the doors perhaps?  since as mentioned, solo randoms seem to occur only in private areas.

 

Theres clearly a much larger variety of factors going into this potential interaction setups,  honestly I probably have to scour the code to make any sense of it.

 

probably not easy to see the code though, I imagine its quite well compressed and thus encrypted, and id have to find all sorts of random tools to break it open to look at it...

 

anybody just happen to have an already .txt version available???   I love you long time?

 

 

ive slightly updated original post to be more clear.

 

 

 

[MortiferusX]

I have had a similar problem in my Savegame and i have fixed it.

 

In my Game i have a household with 1 Male and 7 Female (Harem).

 

The Guy is maried to all of the Girls (Polygamy Option in MCC and WW).

 

I had the Problem, that all Girls only wanted to fuck with the Guy but never had fun with eachother.

 

The Solution was to deactivate the Relationship Awarness under "WW Settings/Sex Settings/Autonomy Settings/Autonomy Specifics"

 

After uncheck this, the girls have fun with eachother again.

[TURBODRIVER]

Sorry for a late response @Dogamai and thank you doing some in-depth testing

There is only one reason for Sims to avoid having sex with the same gender and that is the built-in Gender Preference system. WickedWhims autonomy checks for that and doesn't allow Sims to match with someone that doesn't fit their gender preference.

 

Majority of pre-made Sims have a 0:0 gender preference which means no gender preference and that defaults to hetero gender preference. Any newly generated Sims have a higher chance of randomizing a hetero gender preference so they end up with that as well.

 

Try manipulating this with my gender preference commands: https://wickedwhimsmod.com/relationships-gender-preference/