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Meelis13

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Hi there, not new problem, but one thats been appearing and disappearing at quite random, although lately its been happening more and more

I have CTD when walking around the map at certain areas (im suspecting it might play havoc with certain scripts too, like executing guard scene not triggering when first entering solitude- not CTD there, but i notice correlation between that scene not triggering and simple CTD-s) . NB! i am 100 percent certain its NOT because some mods that add conflicting items (unless some non-plugin mods like enhanced vanilla trees make crashes happen).

 

Exception record & stack text:

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XCEPTION_RECORD:  ffffffff -- (.exr 0xffffffffffffffff)
ExceptionAddress: 00a495b2 (TESV+0x006495b2)
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 00000001
   Parameter[1]: 00000000
Attempt to write to address 00000000

STACK_TEXT:  
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
0f31fa68 0f31fab0 0f31faf4 0f31fb84 00b3011b TESV+0x6495b2
0f31fa6c 0f31faf4 0f31fb84 00b3011b 00000020 0xf31fab0
0f31fab0 0f31fb64 0f31faf4 00b2fb43 36e1e6d0 0xf31faf4
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0xf31fb64

 

Loaded SKSE modules:

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00400000 01e12000   TESV     TESV.exe    
04530000 04546000   XINPUT1_3 XINPUT1_3.dll
10000000 10047000   binkw32  binkw32.dll 
48300000 485c1000   Steam2   Steam2.dll  
48a20000 48aa0000   dsound   dsound.dll  
4e840000 4ec2e000   nvapi    nvapi.dll   
50020000 50041000   CSERHelper CSERHelper.dll
50050000 50112000   Steam    Steam.dll   
50120000 501f1000   nioverride nioverride.dll
50200000 50296000   chargen  chargen.dll 
502a0000 504d5000   JContainers JContainers.dll
50bf0000 50c39000   hdtHighHeelNative hdtHighHeelNative.dll
50c40000 50d34000   StorageUtil StorageUtil.dll
50e10000 50e32000   showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller showRaceMenu_preCacheKiller.dll
50e40000 50ed2000   SexLabUtil SexLabUtil.dll
50ee0000 50f49000   SchlongsOfSkyrim SchlongsOfSkyrim.dll
50f50000 50f72000   SafetyLoad SafetyLoad.dll
50f80000 50fa6000   SKSE_JoyOfPerspective SKSE_JoyOfPerspective.dll
50fb0000 50fec000   MfgConsole MfgConsole.dll
50ff0000 51006000   LoadGameFix LoadGameFix.dll
51010000 5105b000   Fuz_Ro_D_oh Fuz Ro D'oh.dll
51060000 51168000   DeviousDevices DeviousDevices.dll
51170000 511e7000   CrashFixPlugin CrashFixPlugin.dll
511f0000 51242000   AddItemMenu2 AddItemMenu2.dll
51250000 51335000   skse_1_9_32 skse_1_9_32.dll
51da0000 51dc3000   JaxonzConsolePlugIn JaxonzConsolePlugIn.dll
51dd0000 51df6000   skse_steam_loader skse_steam_loader.dll
51e00000 51fe5000   D3DX9_42 D3DX9_42.dll
52910000 537e8000   nvd3dum  nvd3dum.dll 
537f0000 54395000   steamclient steamclient.dll
543a0000 543c8000   steam_api steam_api.dll
543d0000 54441000   hook     hook.dll    
570c0000 5718c000   nvSCPAPI nvSCPAPI.dll
57670000 57677000   X3DAudio1_7 X3DAudio1_7.dll
5e260000 5e2f9000   tier0_s  tier0_s.dll 
5e300000 5e3ce000   Windows_UI Windows.UI.dll
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61b20000 61c1e000   dcomp    dcomp.dll   
628a0000 62994000   AudioSes AudioSes.dll
63ac0000 63b1b000   MMDevAPI MMDevAPI.dll
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69240000 6929d000   vstdlib_s vstdlib_s.dll
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6a2f0000 6a328000   dinput8  dinput8.dll 
6b920000 6bb54000   CoreUIComponents CoreUIComponents.dll
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731e0000 73204000   winmm    winmm.dll   
735a0000 735a8000   wsock32  wsock32.dll 
735b0000 735b8000   version  version.dll 
738c0000 738ca000   CRYPTBASE CRYPTBASE.dll
738d0000 738f0000   sspicli  sspicli.dll 
73950000 73a47000   ole32    ole32.dll   
73a50000 73bae000   gdi32full gdi32full.dll
73bb0000 73c32000   clbcatq  clbcatq.dll 
73c40000 73cfe000   rpcrt4   rpcrt4.dll  
73d00000 73ed7000   KERNELBASE KERNELBASE.dll
73f40000 74010000   kernel32 kernel32.dll
74010000 745d6000   windows_storage windows.storage.dll
745e0000 74618000   cfgmgr32 cfgmgr32.dll
74620000 74634000   profapi  profapi.dll 
74640000 74646000   psapi    psapi.dll   
74650000 74672000   gdi32    gdi32.dll   
74690000 748d6000   combase  combase.dll 
748e0000 74a24000   msctf    msctf.dll   
74a30000 74bb2000   crypt32  crypt32.dll 
74c20000 74c2e000   msasn1   msasn1.dll  
74c40000 75066000   setupapi setupapi.dll
751e0000 75237000   bcryptPrimitives bcryptPrimitives.dll
75240000 75314000   comdlg32 comdlg32.dll
75320000 75336000   win32u   win32u.dll  
75340000 75383000   sechost  sechost.dll 
75390000 753b5000   imm32    imm32.dll   
753c0000 753d9000   imagehlp imagehlp.dll
753e0000 75425000   powrprof powrprof.dll
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75480000 7553d000   msvcrt   msvcrt.dll  
75540000 76873000   SHELL32  SHELL32.dll 
76880000 76997000   ucrtbase ucrtbase.dll
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76ab0000 76c25000   user32   user32.dll  
76c30000 76cc3000   oleaut32 oleaut32.dll
76cd0000 76d36000   ws2_32   ws2_32.dll  
76d40000 76dc8000   SHCore   SHCore.dll  
76dd0000 76e16000   wintrust wintrust.dll
76e20000 76e2e000   kernel_appcore kernel.appcore.dll
76e30000 76eac000   msvcp_win msvcp_win.dll
76eb0000 7703d000   ntdll    ntdll.dll   
77160000 77d20000   hdtPhysicsExtensions hdtPhysicsExtensions.dll
77e20000 77eae000   XAudio2_6 XAudio2_6.dll
77eb0000 77ff4000   gameoverlayrenderer gameoverlayrenderer.dll

 

 

And in case it might help, my load order:

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLab.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
MiasLair.esp
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
notice board.esp
daymoyl.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
DeviousFramework.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Heels Sound.esm
AzarHair.esm
SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
RelightingSkyrim.esp
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp
RLO - Interiors.esp
WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack.esp
Immersive Jewelry.esp
RelightingSkyrim_DG.esp
SD Cages.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
ApachiiHairStyles.esp
RLO - Exteriors.esp
RelightingSkyrim_DB.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
Riided.esp
ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp
everyonecandie.esp
OBIS.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
mercenary war-gear.esp
Sekirei.esp
townsandcitiesenhanced.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
RelightingSkyrim_HF.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
immersive patrols ii.esp
amuletsofthedivines.esp
matys medieval knights.esp
matys mithril armor enhanced.esp
fountain guard armor maty743.esp
gondorarmormaty743.esp
noldorarmor.esp
airrifle.esp
assassin yataghan sword.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
gunnormal.esp
RwbyMod.esp
purewaters.esp
hqsnow.esp
azarhair.esp
elven archer armor.esp
steelmaiden.esp
mxlevelupallperks.esp
BDO -Valkyrie Armor-.esp
noble coliseum champion armour.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
Dovahkiins_Infamy.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
Insects Begone - Spiders and Chaurus.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
whiteruninenhanced.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
SL99Exchanger.esp
war machine.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
WARZONES - DLC - Assault Attack + Helgen Reborn - Compatibility.esp
matys knights of the nine armor 2.1.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
kotn mage.esp
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
UTHERINSPIREDJUDGEMENT.esp
craftable musket.esp
calyps-razorarmor.esp
Erza.esp
SkyrimWeatherBeautification.esp
WonderWomanAA.esp
riided2.esp
Arabian Knights.esp
Bless_Tyelle.esp
NN_ElvishDresses.esp
YgritteRedone.esp
VSCiriProjectTW3.esp
Syanna+Henrietta.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Artificial Academy.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenu2.esp
Avatar Korra.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
notice board - dragonborn patch.esp
trident spear.esp
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
gun.esp
rifle.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Brows.esp
Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp
CinematicFireFX.esp
LunariWarriors.esp
Fachry Standalone Follower Chun li.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
TrueStorms.esp
TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
More Hair Colors Dawnguard.esp
DaenerysTargaryen.esp
DEM Victorian.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
DeviousToys.esp
DfwSupport.esp
linglingFS0002.esp
Ezia.esp
Eyes of Aber.esp
Facelight.esp
NewmillerFancySkirtTartOutf.esp
Fitness Outfit OE.esp
SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp
FNIS.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
FreckleMania.esp
GagSFX.esp
Harley Quinn.esp
Rodeo Set.esp
Greek_Armor.esp
HentaiLoadScreens.esp
HHairstyles.esp
Insects Begone - Dawnguard - Spiders and Chaurus.esp
Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders and Ashoppers.esp
Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
yurica_kimono.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
LaraCroftDefaultHair.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
MeridaHair.esp
MM shirt.esp
yurica_musketeer [HDT].esp
NoMoreUglyVampireLord.esp
NewmDragoNecklace2.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
OBISDB.esp
NewmillerPiercings2.esp
NewmillerPiercings3.esp
Fachry Raven the Titan Follower.esp
Realistic Haircolors.esp
RLO - Effects.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
elewin sunglasses.esp
Samus Suit.esp
Raxys_SansaStarkFollower.esp
seducesets.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
kuerteeSimpleMultipleFollowers.esp
NewmShortDress2.esp
SkyDreamMaidens.esp
Simple Slavery Defeat.esp
SkyrimBound.esp
SkyUI.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp
KomAnimObjects.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SlaveTats.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp
Fachry Starfire the Titan.esp
Street Fighter 5 Cammy Follower.esp
Fachry ZONE-tan Follower.esp
zzArmormashups.esp
Tes4mod.esp
XPMSE.esp
College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp
VarAttre.esp
Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp
NewmillerWeirdSkirt2.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp
WetFunction.esp
Bloodborne Knight Set by Team TAL.esp
American Dream.esp
HISLingLingOutfit.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
da_alternate_start_extension.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
ImmerSlave.esp

 

 

Additional info that might help finding out crash:

Like i said, this crash seems to correlate with some scripts not doing their job properly (the worst is, i have no idea what i changed for it to crash like that), including few from main game (such as Balgruuf not going to talk with Farengar when you first show up to him or executing guard scene not triggering when entering solitude first time around. From mods it doesnt trigger original scenarios from Live another Life mod). I have safely excluded clothes mods (including "riided"- which is just merged esp to save space), LL mods and falskaar and helgen reborn as probable issues, as well as insects begone.

To best of my detection, it seems like some quest scripts are being overwritten. I have tried reinstalling everything, disabling mod by mod, havent detected whats issue. Bugs the hell out of me

Posted
27 minutes ago, Meelis13 said:

NB! i am 100 percent certain its NOT because some mods that add conflicting items (unless some non-plugin mods like enhanced vanilla trees make crashes happen)

How can you be 100% certain?

 

How many active scripts do you have running?

 

You have Warzones, OBIS, Hydra and IP II running - these will add a LOT of extra NPCs whenever you enter a cell.

Posted
58 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

How can you be 100% certain?

 

How many active scripts do you have running?

 

You have Warzones, OBIS, Hydra and IP II running - these will add a LOT of extra NPCs whenever you enter a cell.

because i have tested it extensively. Also OBIS is in the list for some reason but i have it disabled, so that one shouldnt count at all. Warzones, IP 2 and hydra have been tested and i can run them fine with more NPC-s per cell than i have them set on, so im guessing some other conflict is in play here (although will also try to disable IP2, because it might  be that people spawn in bad areas causing game to crash, now that you mentioned that mod, so it could at least be partially responsible).

 

As for active scripts (something IP 2 doesnt use as far as im aware of), i honestly have no clue.

Posted
30 minutes ago, Meelis13 said:

because i have tested it extensively. Also OBIS is in the list for some reason but i have it disabled, so that one shouldnt count at all. Warzones, IP 2 and hydra have been tested and i can run them fine with more NPC-s per cell than i have them set on, so im guessing some other conflict is in play here (although will also try to disable IP2, because it might  be that people spawn in bad areas causing game to crash, now that you mentioned that mod, so it could at least be partially responsible).

 

As for active scripts (something IP 2 doesnt use as far as im aware of), i honestly have no clue.

You have tested it extensively but you have problems. Did you use Skyrim Performance Monitor ?

My point about Warzones et al was that while they are loading all their NPCs, other things have to wait. Add to that all your ENB/environment mods . . .

Try Save Cleaner Among other things it will tell you how many active scripts you have.

 

As a matter of interest, how many plug-ins do you have?

Posted
5 hours ago, Meelis13 said:

50f50000 50f72000 SafetyLoad SafetyLoad.dll

50ff0000 51006000 LoadGameFix LoadGameFix.dll

51170000 511e7000 CrashFixPlugin CrashFixPlugin.dll

51e00000 51fe5000 D3DX9_42 D3DX9_42.dll

SafetyLoad.dll

It really needs that users lose this bad habit of continuing to use this and permanently because it can create a data corruption. In addition you have Crash Fixes and Load Game CTD Fix, these two combined advantageously replace SafetyLoad become risky nowadays. You should install ENBoost too, even if you don't use an ENB in your game but do it later, near the end. All the processes are explained in the linked guide by Sthaagg at the end of my post.

 

D3DX9_42.dll

You need to have SKSE Plugin Preloader correctly installed in the Skyrim game folder - where TESV.exe is (NOT in Data folder), for CrashFixPlugin to load properly and do his job as intended. Create a file called "d3dx9_42.log" in Skyrim's directory to troubleshoot any loading issues.

 

Instructions for Crash Fixes:

 

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Check if you have a file named named "CrashFixPlugin_preload.txt" in Data\SKSE\Plugings (beside CrashFixPlugin.ini and CrashFixPlugin.dll), if not, create it.
Open CrashFixPlugin.ini, and set UseOSAllocators to 1.

 

Read the Crash Fixes documentation for complementary instructions.

 

Windows 10 could block CrashFixPlugin.dll which prevent skyrim to be launched.
To avoid this problem, you need to follow these steps :

  1. Right click on the dll file.
  2. Select Properties
  3. Click on the General tab in the Properties window.
  4. Click on the Unblock option next to the Security detail which says “This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer.”
  5. Windows might display an Access denied message box here, provide Administrator credentials if this box pops up.

 

Install Bug Fixes by meh321, it's a SKSE plugin that fixes bugs in the game EXE itself:

 

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"Perks are applied twice to nearby NPC on loading a game. More info: https://requiem.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=61472833

When standing still vertical look sensitivity is tied to frame rate. Higher FPS will reduce sensitivity proportionally. This can give the impression that horizontal and vertical sensitivity don't match up or that exterior and interior vertical sensitivity are different (due to the FPS difference).

Lip Sync Fix. Included here so you don't need to have both installed.

Fix Slow Time Camera. Included here so you don't need to have both installed.

(Optional - disabled by default) Cap havok FPS to 60. This can help against the "physics explosion" some people get after loading into a cell. This needs more testing, that's why it's disabled by default for now. You still need to limit your FPS to 60 even with this enabled!"

     - Quote by meh321.

 

Personally I use Bug Fixes v1.0 but you can try to use v2.2 beta as shown in the linked guide at the end of the post, and don't enable cap HAVOK fps as this will be redondent with the FPS limiter you'd normaly use in your configuration.

 

Disable all autosave:

 

Autosave can occurs at bad moment and could lead to corrupt savegame or CTDs.
[SaveGame]
bDisableAutoSave=1

 

If you forget to save all the time, I suggest you to use SafeAutosave v4.0 and disable all autosave option in Skyrim settings.

Guide: Skyrim INI/SaveGame

 

Infinite Loading Screen after disabling SafetyLoad:

 

Infinite Loading Screen happens for several reasons: a broken savegame, memory shortage and/or when the game loads many object/texture data.

If your game does not start well by invalidating SafetyLoad try to run it using the following parameter as a last resort:
add EnableOnlyLoading = true option but only if you encounter infinite load screen problems.
If enabled, SafetyLoad will be enabled in only LoadingScreen (Disabled by default, in data/SKSE/Plugins/SafetyLoad.ini).

 

Important Note:

 

Best would be to do a clean savegame before when performing all these operations, please read these threads:

Guide: Mods and Savegames - Installing, Uninstalling, & Upgrading

Save game script cleaner by Hadoram

 

Always create a backup of your saves before using this tool!

Save game script cleaner

 

Before playing:

Set your anti-virus to silence/gamer mode to avoid popup message or alert during your play.

Application with overlay (EVGA PrecisionX 16, MSI Afterburner, NVidia Experience, Avast antivirus, EMET, Razer, Logitech utility, etc ...) can have a really bad interaction with ENB, so close them before playing, don't forget to disable your Steam overlay too.

 

------------

Useful information: Stability Performance Optimization ENB Configuration - a Comprehensive Guide by Sthaagg.

 

EDIT: seconded Grey Cloud previous posts, haven't read them as mine took time to carry out as always, Lol. :classic_biggrin:

Posted
7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

You have tested it extensively but you have problems. Did you use Skyrim Performance Monitor ?

My point about Warzones et al was that while they are loading all their NPCs, other things have to wait. Add to that all your ENB/environment mods . . .

Try Save Cleaner Among other things it will tell you how many active scripts you have.

 

As a matter of interest, how many plug-ins do you have?

Thats a good point... ill stop being snarky one

No, i have not used either. Tried save cleaner just to see how many scripts i have, at most basic one (one where i have initialised all mods before talking to statue in Live another life mod) i have 7838 scripts (between saves, some have few more, max being 7912) with about 85k script instances (not sure if that has any bearing on issue, it does reach over 93k in saves where i have played a bit). Also, i do have to thank you for that because it did point out to me that certain saves have become corrupted (though not earliest ones). Or at least i assume so, as it crashes on trying to check specific saves.

However i feel need to point out that while some of savegames were corrupted, there werent any orphaned or broken/looping scripts save cleaner detected. So my best guess is another script related issue is that A) they dont activate for some reason or B) they are overwritten/deleted by something.

Bit more specification on scripted event errors. Only city where scripted scene doesnt occur is solitude (beheading guard) and there crowd thats supposed to witness it are just standing there (though you can interact with them). Whereas Live another Life script error is tad different (after interacting with bed (with vanilla LAL scenarios) screen goes black and you are just stripped+ statue is gone after screen fades back in)

Although all that said, i have tried continuing old save after clean. Will try fresh save from start tomorrow

 

As for plugins, i have about 230 or so, probably dropping one or two (especially enviroment mods) when i get up tomorrow (1 am here at time of writing). I know more plugins=more unstable, but i have been real careful about closing in on 255 limit.

 

And Thank you for that- it definetly points me in correct direction and i feel we are on to something (definetly better than fumbling around in complete dark)

5 hours ago, Fifoo said:

SafetyLoad.dll

It really needs that users lose this bad habit of continuing to use this and permanently because it can create a data corruption. In addition you have Crash Fixes and Load Game CTD Fix, these two combined advantageously replace SafetyLoad become risky nowadays. You should install ENBoost too, even if you don't use an ENB in your game but do it later, near the end. All the processes are explained in the linked guide by Sthaagg at the end of my post.

 

D3DX9_42.dll

You need to have SKSE Plugin Preloader correctly installed in the Skyrim game folder - where TESV.exe is (NOT in Data folder), for CrashFixPlugin to load properly and do his job as intended. Create a file called "d3dx9_42.log" in Skyrim's directory to troubleshoot any loading issues.

 

Instructions for Crash Fixes:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

Check if you have a file named named "CrashFixPlugin_preload.txt" in Data\SKSE\Plugings (beside CrashFixPlugin.ini and CrashFixPlugin.dll), if not, create it.
Open CrashFixPlugin.ini, and set UseOSAllocators to 1.

 

Read the Crash Fixes documentation for complementary instructions.

 

Windows 10 could block CrashFixPlugin.dll which prevent skyrim to be launched.
To avoid this problem, you need to follow these steps :

  1. Right click on the dll file.
  2. Select Properties
  3. Click on the General tab in the Properties window.
  4. Click on the Unblock option next to the Security detail which says “This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer.”
  5. Windows might display an Access denied message box here, provide Administrator credentials if this box pops up.

 

Install Bug Fixes by meh321, it's a SKSE plugin that fixes bugs in the game EXE itself:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

"Perks are applied twice to nearby NPC on loading a game. More info: https://requiem.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=61472833

When standing still vertical look sensitivity is tied to frame rate. Higher FPS will reduce sensitivity proportionally. This can give the impression that horizontal and vertical sensitivity don't match up or that exterior and interior vertical sensitivity are different (due to the FPS difference).

Lip Sync Fix. Included here so you don't need to have both installed.

Fix Slow Time Camera. Included here so you don't need to have both installed.

(Optional - disabled by default) Cap havok FPS to 60. This can help against the "physics explosion" some people get after loading into a cell. This needs more testing, that's why it's disabled by default for now. You still need to limit your FPS to 60 even with this enabled!"

     - Quote by meh321.

 

Personally I use Bug Fixes v1.0 but you can try to use v2.2 beta as shown in the linked guide at the end of the post, and don't enable cap HAVOK fps as this will be redondent with the FPS limiter you'd normaly use in your configuration.

 

Disable all autosave:

 

Autosave can occurs at bad moment and could lead to corrupt savegame or CTDs.
[SaveGame]
bDisableAutoSave=1

 

If you forget to save all the time, I suggest you to use SafeAutosave v4.0 and disable all autosave option in Skyrim settings.

Guide: Skyrim INI/SaveGame

 

Infinite Loading Screen after disabling SafetyLoad:

 

Infinite Loading Screen happens for several reasons: a broken savegame, memory shortage and/or when the game loads many object/texture data.

If your game does not start well by invalidating SafetyLoad try to run it using the following parameter as a last resort:
add EnableOnlyLoading = true option but only if you encounter infinite load screen problems.
If enabled, SafetyLoad will be enabled in only LoadingScreen (Disabled by default, in data/SKSE/Plugins/SafetyLoad.ini).

 

Important Note:

 

Best would be to do a clean savegame before when performing all these operations, please read these threads:

Guide: Mods and Savegames - Installing, Uninstalling, & Upgrading

Save game script cleaner by Hadoram

 

Always create a backup of your saves before using this tool!

Save game script cleaner

 

Before playing:

Set your anti-virus to silence/gamer mode to avoid popup message or alert during your play.

Application with overlay (EVGA PrecisionX 16, MSI Afterburner, NVidia Experience, Avast antivirus, EMET, Razer, Logitech utility, etc ...) can have a really bad interaction with ENB, so close them before playing, don't forget to disable your Steam overlay too.

 

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Useful information: Stability Performance Optimization ENB Configuration - a Comprehensive Guide by Sthaagg.

 

EDIT: seconded Grey Cloud previous posts, haven't read them as mine took time to carry out as always, Lol. :classic_biggrin:

I do have to thank you a lot. As with Grey Cloud, it seems to point me in correct direction. I definetly forgot to redownload ENBoost after reinstalling skyrim and something definetly messed my savegames up. Will start fresh save tomorrow, see if there are any differences

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FYI: In Save Cleaner - open Quicksave.ess - LH pane:

Scripts

Scrip Instances

References

Arrays

Active Scripts

 

The actual numbers will fluctuate throughout a game but generally speaking, less is better.

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Small update- havent had time to test crashy locations yet, but i checked number of active scripts- between saves i have made since clean run it varies between 9 and 130. All saves so far are good, the one with 9 is latest save, outside of whiterun stables. The one with 130 is when exiting whiterun hall of the dead for first time.

That said, scripts still arent working, especially with live another life (bed disappears after fading black and stripping character. Even with scenarios i can get into main game, it still doesnt finish "use the bed" objective) and as far as i see, theres at least 1 script that hasnt activated yet... though that said, it could be case of main quest not activating yet

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On 01/05/2018 at 10:57 PM, Meelis13 said:

That said, scripts still arent working, especially with live another life (bed disappears after fading black and stripping character. Even with scenarios i can get into main game, it still doesnt finish "use the bed" objective) and as far as i see, theres at least 1 script that hasnt activated yet... though that said, it could be case of main quest not activating yet

This could be due to a conflict issue with your last Load Order mods, those put after AS - LAL as they could edit some related cells.

 

On 29/04/2018 at 2:20 PM, Meelis13 said:

Helgen Reborn.esp

Hmm, I read in a thread a few months ago that it could cause bad things in correlation with AS - LAL, I do not remember which forum, but it was related to the Helgen Reborn quest so that it does not conflict until a certain time after an episode of the Main Quest (four in-game days after?) and can cause a blockage if you do not respect and reach the Helgen area before the given delay. The solution would be to deactivate the Helgen Reborn mod during this time when starting the game with AS - LAL, if I am not mistaken.

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9 hours ago, Fifoo said:

This could be due to a conflict issue with your last Load Order mods, those put after AS - LAL as they could edit some related cells.

 

Hmm, I read in a thread a few months ago that it could cause bad things in correlation with AS - LAL, I do not remember which forum, but it was related to the Helgen Reborn quest so that it does not conflict until a certain time after an episode of the Main Quest (four in-game days after?) and can cause a blockage if you do not respect and reach the Helgen area before the given delay. The solution would be to deactivate the Helgen Reborn mod during this time when starting the game with AS - LAL, if I am not mistaken.

Well, i have placed LAL as last (only mods after that are its addons that NEED to be after that or game will CTD- and i have had them work fine (still do, just original scenarios wont)- but i get "sleep in bed to start new life" quest not ending still). That said though, i have no idea how to place them in left side of MO list so im guessing that could cause problems

 

And yes, Helgen reborn and LAL have had some conflicts and you need to wait for 4 days until pursuing HR questline (until bandits appear there), but that doesnt affect main questline. Quoting HR nexus mod page:

 

" But before you speak to Marcus in my quest, I suggest you make sure the bandits that take over Helgen are enabled and in place. These bandits are enabled 4 days after the quest "Unbound" has been completed, but you must enter Whiterun to enable them. You will know for sure they are enabled by checking the gates leading into Helgen and if you have the spikes with the bloody body parts on them, you're good to go! If you do not, I suggest you wait somewhere for 4 days, then enter Whiterun through the main gate, NOT by fast traveling, then go back to Helgen to make sure they're enabled. If you've killed them before and they haven't respawned that's OK. As long as you have the bloody spikes you're fine.

This mod is 100% compatible with Alternate Start - Live Another life. I still recommend that you follow Arthmoor's quest and run through the keep to trigger anything left over from Unbound.

As for any other Alternate Start type mods, generally as long as they set everything to the condition it would be in a vanilla start after Helgen is destroyed, you're probably good to go. But again, the suggestion about the bandits above apply to everything whether vanilla or Alt start. These steps are recommended due to the way Bethesda set up these events in the vanilla game. "

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