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Posted

I'm hoping to get some advice.

 

I've had a install of skyrim and mods for over a year and a half now and I got frustrated of all the issue of mod installs and uninstalls, CTD's.

 

I'm going to finally install a fresh copy and trying to find out since there have been so many changes and so many things that have become obsolete, what I don't need.

 

I'm mostly just looking to install

SexLab

SL Creatures

Defeat

Player gets Necro'd

Horrible Harassment,

Aroused

Dripping While aroused

Slave Tats
death Fre Camera

XP32 Max Skel Extended

Violens - Kill Move Mod

Body Slide

SL Loader & Animations

 

HD Heels

HD Gladiator Heels

KS Hair/HDT

 

All in one Amazing world of Bikini Armor

All in one animated Vagina 4.0 (UNPB Body with jiggles, LeyBody, sweat, High Tone Muscle tex)

 

I love a lot of followers

 

 

 

Is there anything above I listed that I should stay away from that can conflict with mainly Defeat (Which is my primary mod I like to use)?

 

Do I NOT need to install the steam High Resolution Packs?  (I've read a few times that those may not be needed now, their outdated?)

 

Should I install SexLab mods first (FNIS, XP32), then my body stuff like All in one Animated Vagina, hair, armor, followers etc?  Or does it not make a difference?

 

Sorry for the noob lame questions, I'm just trying to get it stable and omit things that I may not need  

 

 

 

My system is a i5-4690K CPU @3.5 Ghz with 16 GB RAM, and 1060 GTX CArd

 

 

Posted

Couple of random thoughts, not really connected to one another here...

 

  • You mentioned you are starting with a clean install.  I'm assuming you were using Nexus Mod Manager?  Consider switching to Mod Organizer.  It's superior in pretty much every way - but most importantly, it doesn't touch your game directory.  All mods are installed outside the game directory and merged in on load.  This allows you to run all kinds of profiles for different play-throughs, easily try out new mods, prioritize on the fly, etc.
  • I tend to try to stay away from mods that come with lots of scripts that do a lot of scanning - they always seem to bog down high populated areas (like Whiterun) or cause CTDs on cell changes.
  • I don't personally get the High Resolution Texture packs as I pretty much replace everything anyway, with my own preference texture mods - you don't need them, they aren't required.
  • I tend to install my mods in an order that makes sense to me:
    • Base game - meshes & textures
    • Base game - weather, lighting, etc.
    • Base game - sound, ambiance, and immersion
    • Base game - gameplay enhancements
    • Body replacers and textures
    • Skeletons, jiggly bits, etc.
    • Animations (non sexy-time)
    • Armor, Clothing, and weapons
    • SexLab stuff

Generally speaking on the above install order point, if you read up on the SexLab and various SexLab related mod install isntructions - they will almost always note that some body replace is a requirement and should come before the SexLab mod.  There are oakish mod recommendations and install guides here on LL, Nexus, and google.  They are personal preference in the content, but mostly follow a similar pattern to what comes first, later, etc.

 

If you're interested, here is my load order, not necessarily install order - but this is how it's running at the moment.  Fairly stable.  Occasional (~1 per 30 gameplay sessions) crashes, but that's modding any game)  ;)

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Havok Breast Physic.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Campfire.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
CompanionArissa.esm
SexLab.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
daymoyl.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
3DNPC.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
BHWarPaints.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
FNIS.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
PerspectivePatchDB.esp
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Northgirl.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
ImprovedDragonShouts_Merged.esp
DragonFire.esp
DragonFire-Dragonborn.esp
DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
Brows.esp
Beards.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
WetFunction.esp
Skill Config.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
TrueStorms.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
HeartBreaker.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
ImmersiveSpells.esp
BFSEffects.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
AchieveThat.esp
VioLens.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp
Better Vampires.esp
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
BetterJorrvaskr.esp
Better Vampire NPCs.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
DarkManeuvers.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
OCR-Fixes.esp
SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
Blowing in the Wind.esp
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Frostfall.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
Ursine Armor Pack.esp
CinematicFireFX.esp
Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Hott Interesting NPCs.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
InfiniteShouts.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
FNISspells.esp
isilNarsil.esp
Immersive Music Temples.esp
Vampirelordroyal.esp
Immersive Music.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Falskaar Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp
UIExtensions.esp
RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp
RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
stranger_danger.esp
Investment Price Config.esp
GoToBed.esp
GoToBed - Hearthfire coffins fix.esp
SleepTight.esp
Serana.esp
Valerica.esp
FootIKOffSpell.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SexLab Warmbodies.esp
SexLabTools.esp
SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
SexLabSexBounty.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
SL Deadly Drain.esp
SexLabSquirtR.esp
SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
NusbieVoices.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
TKRecoil.esp
TKDodge.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
SexLab Slut Shout.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Sanctuary Reborn.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
EnhancedENBNightEye_withPredatorVisionPatch.esp
sanctuarycleanup.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
BF.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
DovahBlingJewelrySignetRings.esp
ImperialMail.esp
SL99Exchanger.esp
Immersive Jewelry.esp
SL99Exchanger_Patch_Immersive Jewelry.esp
ARDX - Map Markers Collection.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
SD Addons.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
PuppetMasterSwallow.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
SLSW Addicted.esp
yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp
GagSFMerge.esp
zdd.esp
HorrifiedFemalePrisons.esp
Playable_ImperialVampireRace.esp
Statues.esp
comvex-hmpriestess.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp
DivinePunishment.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

Shaydows VampireLord Replacer OVERHAUL.esp

HDTSextoys.esp
KomAnimObjects.esp
Dunmeri Leaf Sword.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
RealShelter.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
RSPatch.esp
ASIS.esp
 

 

Posted

The mods you have listed should be compatible. Most LL mods do different things, and there aren't that many mods with incompatibilities. You should be fine as long as you don't remove any script mods in the middle of your play through, and if you do, make a clean save and remove the orphaned scripts with SaveTool. I can recommend Mod Organizer if you are getting close to 50+ mods, or you have many conflicting mods. Otherwise it's not worth getting into, since it can be overwhelming at first.

 

These are the mods you should stay away from: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/dangerous_mods_masterlist

Posted

Thank you for your replies and advice.

 

I loaded everything and so far it nice and flowing with only one problem.  When creatures show up like in the helgen keep, the spiders and bear are jittery, their offset from where they usually are and when they move they fluctuate and jitter in movement erratically.

 

Last time I used More Nasty Critters 9.3 but opted for the newer 11

 

Is this a MNC issue or something else? 

 

Here is my Load Order so far

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
  9  9     hdtHighHeel.esm
 10  a     CreatureFramework.esm
 11  b     ApachiiHair.esm
 12  c     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 13  d     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 14  e     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 15  f     Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
 16 10     FNIS.esp
 17 11     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
 18 12     FNISspells.esp
 19 13     SkyUI.esp
 20 14     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 21 15     chargenexport.esp
 22 16     RaceMenu.esp
 23 17     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 24 18     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 25 19     XPMSE.esp
 26 1a     RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
 27 1b     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 28 1c     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 29 1d     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 30 1e     SexLab Cumshot.esp
 31 1f     SexLabDefeat.esp
 32 20     SLAnimLoader.esp
 33 21     SLALAnimObj.esp
 34 22     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 35 23     SLAL_K4Anims.esp
 36 24     KS Hairdo's.esp
 37 25     Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
 38 26     GladiatorHeels.esp
 39 27     High Level Enemies.esp
 40 28     High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
 41 29     High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
 42 2a     LeatherSandals.esp
 43 2b     NewmillerPiercings3.esp
 44 2c     NewmillerPiercings2.esp
 45 2d     VioLens.esp
 46 2e     SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
 47 2f     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 48 30     Werewolves and Werebears Distributed.esp
 49 31     12FemaleBrows.esp
 50 32     SLPGN.esp
 51 33     RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp
 52 34     FreckleMania.esp
 53 35     TemptressVixen.esp
 54 36     SlaveTats.esp
 55 37     Play With Animals.esp
 56 38     Armored Bikini - UNPB BBP.esp
 57 39     archerandknight.esp
 58 3a     assassinandthief.esp
 59 3b     Chiasa.esp
 60 3c     Allie.esp
 61 3d     Myrelle2.esp
 62 3e     Erika.esp
 63 3f     NOGFollower ariana v1.0.esp
 64 40     beinz_plugin.esp
 

 

After using LOOT

Posted

If I can afford to give you a few tips:


Personally I use an older version of MO to manage mods because the MO2 version still has some bugs for now. It is a very powerful tool, sometimes complex, but essential to optimize your Skyrim installation.

 

Have you cleaned the Bethesda ESMs with TES5Edit? I think so, but it is better to be sure.

 

And I'll opt for optimized textures instead of the Bethesda high-resolution texture packs that you have installed in your configuration because more memory (both RAM and VRAM) is required to render these 'bloated' textures, which in turn costs valuable resources and hampers performance.

 

These gave me complete satisfaction, despite a hardware configuration now considered as medium according to current standards but fully optimized (OCed CPU and GPU, Win7 optimized with unnecessary services disabled):
High Definition Base Game Textures for Everyone (Part 1_2).7z and High Definition DLC for ModOrganizer Users (Part 2_2 - Extract Me).7z

 

Here's a video in English as a tutorial for easier installation with MO:

Taylem Mods - Ep. 03 - ESM Cleaning and Texture Optimization.

 

If you are using MO, place the files in the following order in the left pane:

 

Optimized Vanilla Textures - HD

Unmanaged: Dawnguard.esm

Optimized Dawnguard Textures - HD

Unmanaged: HearthFires.esm

Optimized HearthFires Textures - HD

Unmanaged: Dragonborn.esm

Optimized Dragonborn Textures - HD

Skyrim Cleaned ESM Files

Skyrim Script Extender

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch

Unofficial High Resolution Patch

Your ESMs

Your ESPs

 

Also for MO:

 

For Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch

Do not install the following file(s) and/or folder(s): Docs folder and Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.bsl

 

For Unofficial High Resolution Patch

Do not install the following file(s) and/or folder(s): Docs folder and Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp (Dummy ESP) and Unofficial High Resolution Patch.bsl

This will overrides Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.

 

Sorry for the long post. Hope this helps you.

---

Sources: http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_-_Legendary_Edition

Posted

Thanks, I'll have to try those

 

Here's a quick vid of my issue with creatures right now

 

IMG_6744.MOV

 

@Fifoo  on those unofficial patches, is it certain files that need to be pulled form the directories of just not installed all together?

Posted
On 09/01/2018 at 8:53 PM, WCSC said:

I loaded everything and so far it nice and flowing with only one problem.  When creatures show up like in the helgen keep, the spiders and bear are jittery, their offset from where they usually are and when they move they fluctuate and jitter in movement erratically.

See if you have set Vsync to always ON and set FPS not to exceed 60 in the 'Manage 3D Settings' section of your Graphic Card Control panel. The game physics go wild if not.

 

On 10/01/2018 at 5:04 AM, WCSC said:

@Fifoo  on those unofficial patches, is it certain files that need to be pulled form the directories of just not installed all together?

The manipulation you'll have to do is to deselect the files and/or directories we do not need for the installation of some mods in MO. This allows for a clearer installation, free of data that may be superfluous like text files for example - unless you want to see the installed mod's descriptions in MO, of course.

 

I will not show you the whole process of installation and configuration of MO in order to stay in the topic, it will be much too long to detail them in this post. You will find in this link a whole series of playthroughs for your installation.

Taylem Mods - Skyrim
 

I will try to make it simple to answer your question. Here's how to proceed:

 

Spoiler

In order to install a mod in MO you'll have two ways to download it from its page:


First one: either through the 'Mod Manager Download' method if the mod site allows it - the simplest way (Nexus, for example) and you'll have it in the 'Download' section (right panel of MO).

Second one: either in 'Manual Download' - a method that allows a more advanced mod installation (LL, for example) and you will this time use the icon 'Install a new mod from an archive' (on top left of the left panel of MO ). This method is sometimes necessary for the installation of some mods, and is often preferred by most modders for its freedom of action.

 

The two methods mentioned above are simultaneously used to install the optimized texture packs that we were talking about earlier. But don't worry, the links I provided you explain all the process.

 

Now, let's come to the installation of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch itself:

 

Download Unofficial Skyrim Patch (use the first method described above),
Double click on the downloaded mod to install it (right panel of MO).

 

A small window named 'Quick Installation' will appear, with the name of the mod. You will have four fields in front of you: 'Name', 'Manual Installation', 'Validate', and 'Cancel'.

 

'Name' is used to select the name of the mod, click on the small arrow to the right of the field to scroll down a list of names and choose the one that suits you, you can even rename your mod if necessary.
'Manual Installation' click on this field to proceed to the installation of the mod, it is the one which interests us - a new window will appear with the tree of the directories and/or files of the mod and you will have then the choice to validate or not those files, by selecting them or not - useful for removing unnecessary files or for performing more advanced mod editing operations.
'Validate' is a field that does not allow manual selection, but rather useful for the installation of Fomods, for example.
'Cancel' simply allows you to abandon the installation of the mod.

 

Here is in detail this new window that appeared, called 'Install the mods', it looks like this:


A field 'New mod' including the name of the mod, there you will also find a drop-down field which will allow you to choose/rename the mod,
A 'Content' field where you have the tree of directories and/or files present in the mod as a list, with selection boxes checked in front of the names of each directory and/or file:
- <data>
    - [] Docs
      [] Unofficial Skyrim Patch.bsa
      [] Unofficial Skyrim Patch.bsl
      [] Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
      [] Unofficial Skyrim Patch.ini


Uncheck those that are not necessary for MO, namely Docs folder and Unofficial Skyrim Patch.bsl and leave checked those that are.

There is one last very important field at the bottom of the window, with the mention 'Looks Good' written in green if everything is ok for the installation. Click on 'Validate' and you have your mod which will appear in the main left panel of MO.

 

Final steps: move your newly installed mod in the main left panel of MO, if necessary, this will change the loading order. And finally activate your mod by checking it. If you need to change the loading order again, uncheck your mod first, move it to the right place and then ckeck it again. Run Loot when needed and done: your mod is installed.

 

Don't forget this: for your mods to be properly installed in MO, it is imperative to have this mention 'Looks Good' displayed.


And now, you just have to do these manipulations for Unofficial High Resolution Patch, by unchecking Docs folder, Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp (Dummy ESP) and Unofficial High Resolution Patch.bsl

 

And finally install the mods that you wish. :classic_wink:

 

 

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