Your WIFI may not be safe

[johntrine]

so this happened a while back but i JUST find it out. during October it was found that WPA2 encryption isn't safe. i'll post helpful links down.

info link-https://www.krackattacks.com/

find your devices' info-https://char.gd/blog/2017/wifi-has-been-broken-heres-the-companies-that-have-already-fixed-it

alternate solution(as https is safe)-https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere

hope you'll find it helpful.

[landess]

After watching a documentary which consisted of a camera running during a law enforcement briefing concerning the differences between wire tapping land lines (court order) and cell phones (no court order/info is freely transmitted over the air) I knew anything using wireless would never really be safe.

 

Encryption and other forms of security are temporary as everything digital can't have the security a physical platform can provide. Reading about certain prime numbers used for encryption use and the possession of these numbers being highly illegal further illustrates the precariousness of security.

 

My biggest worry with WiFi is the new modems being provided have the ability to stream WiFi to other users passing by as a service to their customers while basically stepping on your bandwidth. I checked my modem against the list of models using this feature, and was lucky not to have one. But I did use the 'net' to talk to my modem, and ensure no setting allowed any kind of WiFi actions at all.

 

Bluetooth is another service I make sure my system doesn't engage in, but that's me... old, old fashioned about privacy, and proud of it.

[johntrine]

12 hours ago, landess said:

After watching a documentary which consisted of a camera running during a law enforcement briefing concerning the differences between wire tapping land lines (court order) and cell phones (no court order/info is freely transmitted over the air) I knew anything using wireless would never really be safe.

 

Encryption and other forms of security are temporary as everything digital can't have the security a physical platform can provide. Reading about certain prime numbers used for encryption use and the possession of these numbers being highly illegal further illustrates the precariousness of security.

 

My biggest worry with WiFi is the new modems being provided have the ability to stream WiFi to other users passing by as a service to their customers while basically stepping on your bandwidth. I checked my modem against the list of models using this feature, and was lucky not to have one. But I did use the 'net' to talk to my modem, and ensure no setting allowed any kind of WiFi actions at all.

 

Bluetooth is another service I make sure my system doesn't engage in, but that's me... old, old fashioned about privacy, and proud of it.

though understandable but the government having your data vs just some hacker having your data is different. say you buy something from your mbile or laptop and the site happens to use http instead of https. boom. the hacker now has your credit card info. i'm not a biig "wooo democracy!!! yeah!!" kinda guy, but i rather government have my data than some random hacker. since internet is not as secure and anonymous as everyone thinks. XD just my thought though.

[landess]

Exactly! I use HTTPS everywhere, because as the 'app' said:

 

A lot of websites offer a secure connection if you only 'ask' for it. So if a website doesn't offer it, I'm very wary of any input I give that page.

 

Between HTTPS everywhere, Ghostery, and a few others, one of my systems is preferred for going to battle with the internet, while the other (main gaming) is used sparingly, mostly updates, and occasional browsing like now. I tend to download everything on the armored PC, then transfer it to the gaming rig.

[johntrine]

14 hours ago, landess said:

Exactly! I use HTTPS everywhere, because as the 'app' said:

 

A lot of websites offer a secure connection if you only 'ask' for it. So if a website doesn't offer it, I'm very wary of any input I give that page.

 

Between HTTPS everywhere, Ghostery, and a few others, one of my systems is preferred for going to battle with the internet, while the other (main gaming) is used sparingly, mostly updates, and occasional browsing like now. I tend to download everything on the armored PC, then transfer it to the gaming rig.

yep. that's the smart way... though not all are thinking that way. hence when i read about the new wpa2 security problem, i wanted to share itsinc even in my daily life i see people surf internet without using https and it pisses me off. though a lot of members here are smart but i made the topic catchy so the lurkers would see and learn about it. this security error is something that's been there for a long while and something that can only be fixed by updating the modem firmware or using https. which usually people don't do.

[Vader666]

Wireless connections are unsafe by their nature... you´re throwing data packages in every direction all the time.

[johntrine]

4 hours ago, Vader666 said:

Wireless connections are unsafe by their nature... you´re throwing data packages in every direction all the time.

kinda... but would you let a hacker have, as a gamer would say, +10% more chance (or more)

[landess]

I've gotten into some VR this Xmas, but using an oculus purchased about a month before they released the touch controllers for each hand.

 

Although none of my titles need 'touch', there are others whom do and when I looked into them Bluetooth was used as the communication between device and system.

 

I'm not interested in a bluetooth application myself for the reasons we've been speaking about and not sure why they aren't wireless like an Xbox controller or other USB/wireless devices.

 

 

 Scotty: Aye, sir. The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.

[johntrine]

is it bluetooth 3.0 or 4.0+? cos 4.1 onwards there is "secure connections". though they are still as secure as bluetooth 2.1 ,ie, they're not

[landess]

Checking the Oculus site it appears they use the same camera solution as the headset, but the newer unity software being developed as a stand alone utilizes 3.0

 

So technically I was wrong, and can use the touch for Oculus with their solution.

 

I also can't speak for the Vive, so someone else might have input there.

[johntrine]

nice to know

[D_ManXX2]

You can also include your computer, smartphone and servers on this list. With Meltdown and spectre your device is very vunreble to attack.

[TDA]

Kali Linux, but it takes a lot of time and you need dictionaries. More money will be spent on electricity, it's better to just pay for the Internet no one will deal with such nonsense.