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Everybody guard not in the Imperial City are like this... and I have no idea why. I even started another new game and it's the same.

 

I'm using the same mod load out as I always did, but this has never happened before.

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I am sure one of your mods has slipped out of order and caused the.....little mix up. Do you use Wrye Bash to make a bashed patch?

 

If you do use a bashed patch then post your load order via wrye. If you don't use a bashed patch then post it via OBMM and I will take a look.

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I went back to an old save and every guard is just fine. I'm more confused now. And here's the load order, which I'm sure is profoundly wrong even though I tried to follow the load orders posted;

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

LoversCreature.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp

BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DMwardropemerged.esp

superSP_fatigue_restore_ring.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

Knights.esp

From2ch Lives.esp

Ta22's 01Army.esp

From2ch Lives Boss.esp

F2LAddon_MSElves.esp

MadCompanionshipSpells.esp

MCS extension.esp

HumantouchNPC.esp

Reaper's The Necromancer's Tower.esp

SetBody.esp

The Temple of Medusa.esp

MadokaMagicaMascot.esp

Marg Lena V2.esp

LoversBed.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

Castlevania.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversLight.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversMagic.esp

LoversSlaveTrader.esp

LSTBravilUnderground.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversCreature.esp

LoversImmoralSisters.esp

TACMTifaLovehart.esp

CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp

77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

UOPS Additional Changes.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

F2L_FaceChange.esp

F2LHideRaces.esp

DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp

DMRA Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp

DMRA BBB Skimpy Shivering Royalty.esp

DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp

Ahtata Arquamer female got hair.esp

Ren's hair on Young Hot NPCs.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

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Does Ren's hair on Young Hot NPCs.esp include young hot npcs or do you need that in your load order too?

 

Try moving all of your DMRA plugins to the top of your load order (like just under DMwardropemerged.esp). Also are your DMRA plugins overwriting the DMwardropemerged plugin? Do they contain different items or the same stuff just different "sizes"?

 

Move your UOPs and Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp up to just under the other UOP patches at the top of your load order.

 

After doing this try starting a new game again to see if it is still borked up.

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All I needed was the textures and meshes from Ren's Hair, which I already had. I moved all the DMRA mods and unofficial fixes, then started a new game.

 

Still the same, while my older saves are perfectly fine.

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I am betting that one of the DMRA or the DMwardrobe mods have a sloppy edit that changed the female armors and accidentally points male armors to the female in the esp.

 

Fire up Wrye bash and click on the saves tab and look what masters your good saves have vs your current load order. This should help you figure out what plugin is giving you the he-she's....

 

Out of curiosity when you talk to the he/she guards, do they have male voices or female?

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Female voice, and with some exploring it turns out about half the guard population has female bodies and voices with male heads, while the other half is as they should be.

 

EDIT: Shit, it seems like something in DMRA did break... I disabled them all, started a new game and all the guards are as they should be.

 

EDIT 2: I believe I tracked it down to DMRA Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp, which, after turning it back on, going through the new game nonsense and going to Bruma, resulted in female bodies and voices with a male head. Looking at the file on nexus, it does state that "I have made some of the non-quest scripted town guards female, for some reason stock Cyrodiil does not hire female town guards! Now they do."

 

The thing is, that never happened, but it seems that now it's decided to do that... except with some kind of horrible results.

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I am betting that you have been using a save game with an old version of DMRA skimpy expanded and probably didn't make a clean save or start a new game after upgrading to the later version. Just guessing....

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