Computer Too Weak for LL?

[Conagher]

Is my computer just too weak to run LL Mods?  I keep CTD.

 

 

Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit

Processor: Intel® Core i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), 

Memory: 16384MB RAM

Page File:3125MB used, 15647MB available

DirectX Version: DirectX 12

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745

DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Type: Full Display Device

Approx. Total Memory: 12234 MB

Display Memory (VRAM): 4063 MB

Shared Memory: 8170 MB

 

Main Driver: nvldumdx.dll,nvldumdx.dll,nvldumdx.c

Version: 22.21.13.8456

Date: 8/24/2017  20:00:00

WHQL: Logo'd: Yes

Direct3D DDI: 12

Feature Levels: 11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1

Driver Model: WDDM 2.2

 

 

[John8337]

I've run these mods on much lower hardware before I upgraded. a CTD tends to happens when Skyrim uses >4Gb of RAM due to it being a 32 bit program.

If you're not using ENBoost, try it. It helps a lot.

If you are CTDing at specific moments or locations in-game, you might be experiencing a bug either in a mod or Skyrim itself.

[Guest]

No there shouldnt be an issue performance wise.  Your graphics card is an enormous bottleneck for the processor, but if anything that should just get you a relatively low frame rate, never an actual crash.  Its also incredibly unlikely that youre using more than 4 gigs of ram without some sort of crazy load order that would nuke your graphics card, no way a 745 can handle the types of graphics mods that would be needed to get anywhere near that limit.  

 

In all likelihood, you're experiencing crashes resulting from a badly setup load order and missing requirements, This will be much easier to diagnose if you say specifically where youre experiencing CTD.  If its in the Main Menu/Splash Screen its almost certainly missing requirements or corrupt files. If its when changing equipment its probably a skeleton/body issue. etc.

 

Loverslab mods tend to not be graphics intensive and should only impact your papyrus performance, managed by the processor and in your case should have more than enough headroom.  

 

Run LOOT and check for missing masters.

[drift2211]

Yeah your machine is a lot more powerful than mine. I have only have a 1 GB video card and sexlab runs fine on my computer.

 

The first thing to do is to check your skeletons:

That's XPMSE http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended-xpmse/

Also Schlongs of Skyrim installs its own skeletons. I always make sure to overwrite the Schlongs of Skyrims with XPMSE

So make sure that XPMSE is lower in your install order.

 

Also you could be have problems with HDT physics extensions. I usually don't install the physics extensions and I have a lot less CTDs. Yeah boucing

titties are great, but they aren't worth the CTDs.

[Conagher]

1) ENBoost....looked at this & I didn't have a Tab for ENB.ini or something like that. Where I needed to change some values about a speedhack. Was it not there because I am not running an ENB?  I asked the mod author that suggested I use ENBoost but got no reply yet.

2) I run LOOT,TES5Edit,SKSE,FNIS,NMM,Malware,Windows Defender and get no errors. This crash happens just outside Mixwater Crossing running around with Selene Kate. It'll happen in less than 3-4 minutes no matter which direction we start running toward. Milk Mod Economy is the LL mod I wanted to try. It has Sexlab Framework, SL Aroused,ZAZ Pack as LL requirements. I CTD when equipping the milking cuirass..

3) I do run XPMSE with a UNP BBP body but not the HDT Extension. I see on LL that Extension is a requirement and also some skinned mesh. I didn't install either of those. Is that a (or the ) problem?

4) U don't know how much I appreciate  ur feedback. I'll post whatever it is u need to c. I've alrdy had to start all over with this New Play-thru. Don't want to do that again. I haven't been able to complete Creature Framework (never got it to work right)...Shout Like a Virgin got all screwed up...Captured Dreams got all screwed up. Again, I was running all the tools and getting nothing showing that was amiss. I am so close to joining that guy on YouTube that says..I'll never Upload Skyrim Again.   lol

[drift2211]

Do you have crash fixes installed?

 

As it will sometimes show you an error message when you get a CTD.

 

Helped me find a corrupt nif.

 

Also did you select the Skeleton Rig Map (HDT) or did you select Skeleton Rid Map (BBP)?

I currently use the HDT which is the default choice. Although you said your using UNP BBP body. Are you sure that BBP is correctly setup?

Also FYI I have never used a BBP physics, so I can't give you any advice on BBP.

 

If you having CTD when equipping things, it sounds like a skeleton rig issue to me. Especially if you have devious devices installed, as it requires XPMSE. I had it installed

with the old XPMS  and it would crash my game all of the time.

[Conagher]

1) I do not have crash fixes installed. I'll look into that one.

2) I'm pretty sure I selected BBP because the mod author for Milk Mod Economy stated...animations will not work unless hdt.dll is disabled...and u will need BBP skele.  I was thinking u can't have BBP  without having hdt also..but apparently I was mistaken. I found a BBP body that did not mention hdt as a requirement. Maybe i do need hdt & this was an overlook on the modders part??   & No I cannot be sure I set up BBP correctly.  I just use NMM and hope for the best. Dumb idea I suppose.

3) I don't have any devious devices installed but I do recall having issuees in another play-thru when I did have dd...that I need hdt physics extension to properly equip some devious devices.

4 Should I go for it & install hdt physics extensions? Even if that solves the equipping, there's gotten be more going on here than just that. U should c my Papyrus Log(s). They r posted elsewhere on this site. Under Techical Support and probably elsewhere.

[Bazinga]

Honestly, that graphics card is a piece of shit. You should replace it asap.

I even feel sorry for your CPU, it has to be bored like hell. This is the most ridiculous bottleneck I ever saw posted anywhere online.

[RUD3DUD3]

only graphics card is weaker. im running even older cpu and i face no problem with newer games.

[Conagher]

It has been awhile since I bought a video card. I'll look into that too. I do think (so far so good--no CTD yet). It was the hdt physics extension.

[drift2211]

2) I'm pretty sure I selected BBP because the mod author for Milk Mod Economy stated...animations will not work unless hdt.dll is disabled...and u will need BBP skele.  I was thinking u can't have BBP  without having hdt also..but apparently I was mistaken. I found a BBP body that did not mention hdt as a requirement. Maybe i do need hdt & this was an overlook on the modders part??   & No I cannot be sure I set up BBP correctly.  I just use NMM and hope for the best. Dumb idea I suppose.

 

I believe you need BBP if you want the breast milking animation, as I have used milk mod economy with a HDT rig and yes I have gotten the beast and stomach scaling to work.

 

If you want to use hdt extensions, then you do need a hdt rig. You can use still you a hdt skeleton rig, without the extensions. If you want to use the hdt physics extension then go ahead. Although I am not sure if it will fix your problem.

 

4. U should c my Papyrus Log(s).

Yeah I have no idea on to read those.

 

Also just installing with NMM and hoping for the best is not really a good idea.

[Rockat]

Honestly, that graphics card is a piece of shit. You should replace it asap.

I even feel sorry for your CPU, it has to be bored like hell. This is the most ridiculous bottleneck I ever saw posted anywhere online.

Could be worse. I've had to use a PCX5750 for a while (think 2003/2004) as I needed VGA...and my i7 4790K's motherboard only supported HDMI and display port. Note that the card was the bare minimum for Oblivion....and was kind of terrible for any Direct X 9 game (and even a lot of DirectX 8.1 games)

 

 

Is my computer just too weak to run LL Mods?  I keep CTD.

 

 

Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit

Processor: Intel® Core i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), 

Memory: 16384MB RAM

Page File:3125MB used, 15647MB available

DirectX Version: DirectX 12

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745

DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC

Device Type: Full Display Device

Approx. Total Memory: 12234 MB

Display Memory (VRAM): 4063 MB

Shared Memory: 8170 MB

 

Main Driver: nvldumdx.dll,nvldumdx.dll,nvldumdx.c

Version: 22.21.13.8456

Date: 8/24/2017  20:00:00

WHQL: Logo'd: Yes

Direct3D DDI: 12

Feature Levels: 11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1

Driver Model: WDDM 2.2

 

Considering the only weak part of the machine is the graphics card, and they are rarely if ever linked to CTD, it would be something to do with the mods your using+load order, or the settings. Is ENB boost installed correctly? You won't find a tab for the enb.ini as mod managers don't see it (it should be located at Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\enblocal.ini).

Also, NMM does require a lot of fiddling to get mods working well together, so I recommend:

1. uninstalling all mods
2. re-installing Skyrim since NMM is prone to leaving files behind 
3. backup up the fresh re-install
4. going through installing the mods and their requirements again 1 at a time, testing after each install to see if you get CTD (if a mod is at fault this should help you find out which one)

[Conagher]

[ I do think (so far so good--no CTD yet). It was the hdt physics extension].  This a quote from my last entry here. I installed hdt physics extensions and have not had a CTD since. I appreciate the input. All of it was useful in helping me find the direction I needed to go in. Thnx