Shinteo Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Since the workgirl_tryout is already in capable hands, and no one else is doing anything for the male side of the mod, I thought I'd try my hand at it. (A funny thing about this website. A lot of work done for people playing female characters. For male character... not so much. I wonder why...?) I can write dialog pretty well, though I'm not very well versed in scripting. For this add-on, I'd be copy-pasting most of the script. Unless I can actually figure out what it does, else I wouldn't touch it, for fear of breaking something. What I would like, is ideas and scenarios in which you could do stuff as a male (or female) player character to the NPCs of New Vegas. One example could be when Sunny Smiles bring you along for gecko extermination. At the campsite alone with her, and she had just handed you a gun. Well, there's a chance for you to do something, if you want to. Might have to deal with her dog first. Then again there's the campfire where you are asked to craft stuff. A little extra added could put her to sleep, and you can do whatever you want. Things like this. I'm currently a little lacking in details for other NPCs, so would appreciate ideas.
Cathal Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 Are you thinking something along the lines of Wasteland Player for FO3? It allowed you to, through quests, to turn certain npc's into your personal playthings or to pimp them through blackmail or some other means. To be honest I consider it the best adult mod for f3 since it integrated seamlessly into the lore. As for ideas (I'm still thinking about something similar to Wasteland Player): -NCR ranger Ghost: involve her with legionnaire's from Nipton, for example get a quest from them to lure her into an ambush (karma hit, +legion rep, -NCR rep) she has to surrender gets enslaved and you can buy her from Cottonwood Cove -Initiate Watkins from hidden valley bunker, likes to sneak out of the bunker, that could somehow be used although i have no idea how so far -Joana, getting her out of Gomorrah and then through killing carlitos/blackmail forcing her to either work for PC or submit, something along these lines if I get any other ideas I'll post them
Shinteo Posted August 13, 2011 Author Posted August 13, 2011 That is one of the inspiration, yes. I doubt I can come close to the scale of that mod, since as I mentioned, my scripting is not the best. However, who know what the future may bring. I have vague ideas for Initiate Watkins, since her mentor, Taggart, promoted her out of her classes due to her looks and with expectation of sexual favors. However, no real plans yet.
Zanir Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 I would recommend talking to the people already working on the mod. I'm quite convinced that making it work for male characters wouldn't be anything more complicated than a bit of copy paste and changing what enables things to happen for female characters to be enabled for male characters instead. With bit of luck you really wouldn't have to do much else other than the dialogue. Try to find out as much as possible from them. You might be saving a load of workhours that way.
Med111 Posted August 13, 2011 Posted August 13, 2011 I'd suggest making plugin for Sexout instead wSex - it's scripting is more flexible and easier to understand. It really needs more content, but only few people are willing to work on it. Don't forget that if you don't know how to do something in Sexout, you can easily contact it's author via PM. UDRL is rather helpfull
rikuth Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 I'd suggest making plugin for Sexout instead wSex - it's scripting is more flexible and easier to understand. It really needs more content' date=' but only few people are willing to work on it. Don't forget that if you don't know how to do something in Sexout, you can easily contact it's author via PM. UDRL is rather helpfull [/quote'] In my tinkering i'd have to agree that sexout is certainly easier to work with, and I happen to prefer its animations.
Shinteo Posted August 14, 2011 Author Posted August 14, 2011 Sexout is one of the "more suited to female player character then male" mods mentioned. Example: There is a stat for 'number of times you were raped' but there is none for 'number of times you raped someone' Also, the script for enslaving has a condition for you being enslaved, but is empty for NPC being enslaved. I am not sure how hard is it to actually do anything male related with this mod, and so chose to start with wsex instead. Maybe I'll take some time to tinker with it can see what I actually do. In the meantime, ideas for NPCs will be great.
Med111 Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Sexout is one of the "more suited to female player character then male" mods mentioned. Example: There is a stat for 'number of times you were raped' but there is none for 'number of times you raped someone' Also' date=' the script for enslaving has a condition for you being enslaved, but is empty for NPC being enslaved. I am not sure how hard is it to actually do anything male related with this mod, and so chose to start with wsex instead. Maybe I'll take some time to tinker with it can see what I actually do. In the meantime, ideas for NPCs will be great. [/quote'] UDRL is still working on it, you can suggest adding 'number of times you raped someone' in his thread. Simple as that.
Cathal Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Diane, Red Rock Canyon - drug trafficking I'm thinking of a deal-gone-bad kind of setting Julie Farkas, Fort Mormon - needs medical supplies, maybe some tinkering with the deal with the Garrets, although I'm not sure if it wouldn't break immersion due to the fact that she's a leader of a faction branch Sarah Weintraub - vault 21 hotel in danger of going under, her trying to find some way to increase income without leaving the shop (agoraphobia), I'm thinking some kind of a competition for gomorrah and a home marker for all the npcs you "obtain" Siri, The Fort - she's had it with the Legion's abuse wants the PC to smuggle/buy her out perhaps? out of the fort, she's willing to do anything since it can't get any worse (yeah right) Pretty Sarah, Casa Madrid apartments - including her because of the "You're not one of the merchandise?" dialogue option leaving some room for experiment, i have no idea how to make that work though (pimping the pimp...) Corporal Betsy - got raped once, maybe setting her up somehow then "training" her, something like Red in Wasteland Player Ideas are more or less general if You like any of them I can try to think of something more specific.
sora3 Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 There's a couple of female encounters such as the ones below: ANY NCR FACTION FEMALES: The ability to enslave for Legion fame. That was easier to do. Violet: Perhaps you need to kill a certain NPC in order to disguise it as herself in order to keep raiding. After doing so, she'll allow herself as a reward. It would fit the raider/raider friend theme. Michelle Kerr/Arms Merchant/Dr Ada Strauss/travelling female merchant/Dr Luria: They need business badly so you need to help them sell their goods. Leaves a lot of scope for that. Or in the case of Dr Luria, absolute boredom. Lady Jane: Perhaps a retrieval of a certain item in her fallen caravan/Allowing her to get a caravan? Private Gilbert: A reward for saving her from the Khans, perhaps leaves the NCR due to trama? Angela Williams: Herself as a reward for saving Keely or offers tech for a 'discount'. Carrie Boyd: Once you're well-known in the NCR, perhaps allow herself to let those icy walls down? Christina Morales: Her husband is dead so that leaves a lot of scope. For Legion fans, an opportunity to know misery. For NCR, perhaps as a reward to escort her to one of the towns to live out her life. Neutral, it is up to you? The female Weathers: perhaps a bargain for their freedom or you'll turn them into slaves for the Legion. Major Elizabeth Kieran: this will be tricky as she's a two-fold. This means she can offer herself as a reward if you peacefully negotiate a truce for the NCR citizens. Old Lady Gibson: There is an option in the quest for the Bright Followers to seduce her so that might expand on that. Trudy: This one is easy, either allow her to be sold to the Powder gangers (+ fame) as a rape situation or if you have either a decent speech check/Lady Killer perk, offer to sleep with her. Run Goodsprings Run does allow both options so that logically expands on that. Allison Valentine: After the speech, you can tell her about her friend's Ben. You can offer comfort. Hostilier family: Can go a lot of ways. You can either invite Mrs Hostilier into a rape situation and mission complete with her becoming a whore for the East Vegas citizens or trick Alice into becoming the whore instead. Alternative would be stop it peacefully and offer them an 'alternative' via slavery. Yvette: There was a cut quest for them so you can re-enable that and have her offer sex for the ammo instead of caps. Anne: Same thing. She's frustrated at the NCR. So perhaps an escort towards the Followers of the Apocalypse fort or one of the towns such as Goodsprings? Emily Ortal: An option to turn down the reward and do it with her OR turn her to Mr House as a total slave. This might be difficult as you'll need to write a completely different script for her. Jacklyn: There is a speech check pass built it. You can either use it to offer the rest of your caps for her body or see through her ruse and enslave her instead. Layla: You can use the speech check to not extort money and offer herself as a whore for the town or offer yourself as a prize for her to go away. Jas Wilkins: Instead of getting the Deathclaw egg for the receipt, seduce her for it? Ranger Stella: can't believe you missed this Cathal. Simple really. Enslave or freedom Pauline Wins: If you have a speech check, you can convince her to leave her partner and travel with you. So that's all the females I think that can be done. And I agree in the use of Sexout. That would be perfect in comparison to the female orientated side of the plugins...
Cathal Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 ah I really missed Stella, you're right she's an obvious choice, I've also omitted Weathers on purpose since Mrs Weathers is somewhat covered by workgirl_tryout, but if the mod would be Sexout based that wouldn't be a problem and if we're talking Trudy similar thing can be done with Sunny Smiles
Shinteo Posted August 14, 2011 Author Posted August 14, 2011 So most of you guys would prefer Sexout? Seems I got my job cut out for me then... I'll try my best to get a test sample out within the week, most likely Sunny Smiles, since she's the closest to a new game. Is there a way to change the title of the topic? Since it wouldn't be wsexInnudndo NPC anymore.
Cathal Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 TBH I don't think it matters which one will be used, since both supply You with the framework to work on, go with the one You deem more user friendly/easier to work with. My first contact with GECK was 2 days ago and I'm still kind of overwhelmed but that would be the way I'd begin
rikuth Posted August 14, 2011 Posted August 14, 2011 Sexout is one of the "more suited to female player character then male" mods mentioned. Example: There is a stat for 'number of times you were raped' but there is none for 'number of times you raped someone' Also' date=' the script for enslaving has a condition for you being enslaved, but is empty for NPC being enslaved. [/quote'] it is quite simple to track if you are raping someone (and how many times you have raped anyone) with your own quest scripts depending on how you intend to start the scene.
sora3 Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 I agree with rikuth. Pimping and whoring would be easier using Sexout as the framework is there for NPC tracking and the randomisation of STDs. But I'd suggest you start out coding for both frameworks on Sunny before committing to which ever framework.
Shinteo Posted August 15, 2011 Author Posted August 15, 2011 I more or less decided on Sexout already, since you all are pushing for it so much... And since UDLR has generously started a faq for his mod on request, yeah, kinda feel bad if I don't make use of it.
Shinteo Posted August 15, 2011 Author Posted August 15, 2011 1st version. Sunny Smiles only. Start new game, go through her quest. It should kick in when you return from bringing the plants Sunny Smiles requested. Talk to her before using the fire to make healing power. This is more or less a test to make sure everything is working, and also to get feedback from you guys here. Suggestions for improvement and expansion will be appreciated.
Cathal Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 Works perfectly, love the dialogue, as for expansion I have some random stuff can't figure out how to put it together into something that makes sense, hope it'll be at least of some help -runs back to the saloon (possible karma/rep loss?) -some other npc talks to PC about how he/she wanted to get into Sunny's pants -insert series of events that get sunny raped & blackmailed or even enslaved (possibly a quest involving jury rigging a slave collar perhaps? it could also be a starting point for other characters since making collars->possibility to slap them on other characters in their quest lines) beyond that I kind of lack ideas for now since all i can think of is "lure them away whack them in the head and drag them to your cave" scenario lol EDIT: Ah yes, would it be possible for You to keep track and attach the current version of the mod to your first post? Since as the topic grows it'll be more and more difficult to keep track of what's what.
sora3 Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 @ Cathal, it'll be interesting for Sunny in regards of the rape/blackmail. In terms of realistic opportunities, I'd be more inclined to blackmail her in terms of Cheyenne and how she acts protective of the dog. I'm not sure if Sunny has a definitive location to live (she seems to stay exclusively at the saloon when I view it in the GECK) but perhaps have a holotape of Sunny and Cheyenne's act (a dummy one) nearby and blackmail from there. The other alternative instead of using a holotape would be to see Sunny and Cheyenne getting it on. Then you can spring her after the act and blackmail from there. I don't think there is any NPC in Goodsprings that would want to get into her pants (unless you count Chet and him being a secret slave driver).
Shinteo Posted August 16, 2011 Author Posted August 16, 2011 Chet? He doesn't seem the sort. He's a coward more then anything. I can see him with some light smuggling, but slaving? It'll take someone with more guts then him... As for Cheyenne, I always figure the dog as a female. If I were to do blackmail, it'll be some kind of harm to the animal. Maybe a bomb-collar to it? I do agree that Sunny would be more worried about her pet then herself.
sora3 Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Oddly enough, I thought Cheyenne was more masculine rather than feminine. But I do think blackmail due to Cheyenne would be interesting.
Shinteo Posted August 16, 2011 Author Posted August 16, 2011 Might have a wee bit of a problem... If I set Sunny Smiles' rape before Goodsprings is attacked, when the time comes for recruiting her into the fight, it sounds rather funny that she would be so eager to fight with you... But after the fight... not much of a chance to do anything to her. Ideas, people?
gregor_y Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Hm not sure but i quess first thing is you need skills or items it's too easy to just click next > next... Story well i was thinking about 2 routes good you got 2 lovers or bad you open small salone brother with Sunny and Trudy gaining weekly wages... 1.At fire camp you drug her a bit or talk to her i guess 2 routes good and bad would be nice... 2.And drug/talk her again just before the fight too. 3.After that i quess you continue what your doing and got option to do same thing to Trudy... Also there is another route for bad route(no idea if you consider good route) for example you fight on powdergang side.Insted of killing Sunny,Trudy they are captured and training begins... Oh well i will think about it later this took me 5 minutes sry gtg to work...
Guest Loogie Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 Gregor stole my idea. Powder Gangers enslaving Sunny and Trudy would be awesome.
Cathal Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 I like Gregor_y's idea with the two routes I guess it branch like this a)while camping drug&rape -> doesn't remember anything -> drug again -> slowly break her b)rape&blackmail of some sort like Sora3 earlier mentioned it could involve Cheyenne either in some sort of bestiality or threatening to kill the dog after the whole powder ganger business Trudy&Sunny could either be enslaved permanently by the gangers or maybe offered to the PC by the gangers as some sort of reward/compensation for help (I haven't got any ideas so far regarding how to enslave them without collars since somehow it doesn't seem likely that the gangers would have slave collars, at least in my opinion)
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