Sarge Misfit Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 So, I came across the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod and it looks pretty good. However, the creator made specific mention of SexLab and Lover's Lab  - Sexlab/Lover's Lab mods: these are very script heavy and mess with core animation systems of the game which drastically destabilizes even the most solid game. Using any of the frameworks from this site along with Legacy will cause major problems.  To be honest, I don't see any of the mods here on LL as being more or less script heavy than any other mod no matter where its hosted. It all depends on the mod.  Anyway, has anybody else given this mod a play and how'd it work out?
Lodakai Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 I'm using it with sexlab, defeat, mias lair, and many many other mods.. including all the mods legends supports.  The problem you will run into is the string count limit.  If you plan on using it.. you ABSOLUTELY must use it with crash fixes with the OSallocator enabled as well as the skse preloader. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2551-crash-fixes/  Other than that.. the only time i crash is if the scripts fire off when I am using the automated museum display feature in the library... and that's only if someone starts doing the yumyum bouncy bouncy while those scripts are running.  It's extremely easy to avoid.  Just don't bring any slaves etc in with you.. and don't do anything until all museum items have been sorted.  This also goes true with the stash spell.  Verified working with the following load.  Your mileage may vary depending on your rig.    # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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USLEEP Patch.esp BGtrophyHeads.esp TropicalIsland.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp FoxMerged.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp BGsomethingFishy.esp iNeed.esp DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp CACO-Ordinatored.esp Scent of Sex.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp DragonsDiversified.esp Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp RDO - Follower Live Package Patch.esp DBM_CCOR_patch.esp DBM_Sofia_Patch.esp TKAA.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp dcc-dm2.esp FNISspells.esp Sexual Vampire Feed.esp PAH-HSH-Dialogue KAI.esp ogSplendorDragons.esp DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp SexLabHoltAnimations.esp Lock Door.esp SLSO.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp KAI NPC RACE.esp KAI CRAFTABLES.esp SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp KAI NPC OVERRIDE.esp JKs LITE - Cities.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp   ETA:  I should also add... legends is simply an amazing mod if you are a collector.  You can view all of your items there and theres a ton of quality of life features that you can use or chose to ignore..     Tired of getting weighed down by ingredients and ore in the middle of a dungeon?  Theres a spell to take everything that you may possible want to stash out of your inventory automatically and ship it off to the museum for sorting later.
Sarge Misfit Posted May 12, 2017 Author Posted May 12, 2017 Thanks, I think I'll give it a go. In fact, it may be that my load order is not as script heavy as yours    Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmCreatureFramework.esmRaceCompatibility.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmhdtHighHeel.esmSexLab.esmWM Flora Fixes.espDevious Devices - Assets.esmZaZAnimationPack.esmSexLabAroused.esmDevious Devices - Integration.esmSexlabInteractiveArousal.esmDevious Devices - Expansion.esmHeretical Resources.esmSexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esmZazExtensionPack.esmRSkyrimChildren.esmnotice board.espNPCs of Dibella - Resources.esmzzEsSp.esmTERAArmors.esmdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espELFX - Exteriors.espFNIS.espSOSRaceMenu.espXPMSE.espRaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espSkyUI.espSOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espUIExtensions.espRaceMenuMorphsCBBE.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espComplete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.espMoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).espRealShelter.espRebirth Monster.espWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espRaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.espFNISSexyMove.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espSLAnimLoader.espZaZHDTWorkshop.espSLA Monitor Widget.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espBetter Embers.espBooks of Skyrim Compilation.espStart As Breton Female.espDevious Devices - Gags+.espDibellanDefender.espEdhildilsBlacksmithArmor.espEdhildilsDwarvencyborg.espEquipableStockings.espMasque of Clavicus Vile.espSerialStrip.espSLIA - Books of Skyrim.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espDevious Devices - Equip.espItemRewardsForBounties.espKS Hairdo's.espBook Covers Skyrim.espELFXEnhancer.espxazPrisonOverhaul.espxazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.espHelgen Reborn.espPopulated Skyrim Legendary.espOBIS.esphydra_slavegirls.espSexLab_DibellaCult.espELFX - Weathers.espSlaverun_Reloaded_Comments.espOBISDB.espOBIS Loot.espCaptured Dreams.espRSChildren - Complete.espCidhna Mine Expanded.espSexLab-Stories.espSkyrimsUniqueTreasures.espSexLabSkoomaWhore.espTradeBarter.espZazResources.espSLIA - Legendary.espImmersive Weapons.espSchlongs of Skyrim.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espSmithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.espSLIA - Dawnguard.espSLIA - Dragonborn.espSLIA - Hearthfires.espSLIA - Skyrim.espDogs-of-Skyrim.espArtifacts.espRun For Your Lives.espzDeviousStories.espSexSlavesForVanillaBandits.espDeviously Cursed Loot.espDeviousRegulations.espkonahrik_accoutrements.espFarm Animals.espFarm Animals_HF.espCoCo_TDM2.espSLIA - The Devious Manual.espBrandingDeviceOfDoom.espDibellasRecruit.espEast Reach House.espSMUTBDS.espSLIA - SMUT Books.espDevious Cidhna.espzzEstrus.espSexLab_Dialogues.espFNISspells.espThe Ordinary Women.espSexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.espSpace Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.espSexLab-StoriesDevious.espEstrusChaurus.espCD - D.D. Equip.espEK_RingLimiter.espEstrusSpider.espQuieterDogs.espBB mass ingots smelter.espCraftable Arrows v1.2.espSteel Bolts For All.espXiNafay - Shoes.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espAuto Unequip Helmet.espGagSFX.espGlowing Vampire Eyes.espNewVampChainsArmor.espGlowing Eyes.espHDT Piercingsets.espHermaeus Mora's Caress.espSkyrim_Strap_Ons.espDrunkenSluts.espGatti12Jewelry.espMoreNastyCritters.espSexLabNudeCreatures.espSexLabNudeCreaturesDB.espSexLabNudeCreaturesDG.espSlaveTats.espSlaveTatsEventsBridge.espsubmissivelola.espnakedforsworn.espnon-devious devices.espTS_ECatsuit&Ballet.espTS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.espTS_GimpHood.espTS_RogueOutfits2.espTS_SlickArmour.espTS_XinPHHeels.espAetheriumSwordsnArmor.espAngrimApprentice.espkonahrik_accoutrements_db.espDwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.espArtifactsOfBoethiah.espDevious Deviants.espSGS.espCampingKitNorthernRanger.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espNeo's Slave Leia Renewal.espMannequin_Female_Vyctoria.espBrows.espdcc-dm2.espSexLabMassMatchMaker.espSPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.espUnreadBooksGlow.espZipsuit.espADEC_SuccubusArmor.espaltvamplord.espDevious Rubber Masks.espTERAArmors_CBBE.espBDSkimpyClothes.espDevious Masque of Clavicus Vile.espMaster Gets a Job.espBlackRedLatexDress.espBondage Straps.espGatti3Evilrose.espGattiBondage1.espPrisonerRagsForFemales.espSkyrim Sexy Remodeled Armor for CBBE.espSpikeBallOutfit.espRSPatch.espCD - Female Embassy Guards.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espAlternate Start -- New Beginnings.espDeviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp   I don't have slaves and followers I just 'park' at one of the houses.  I play Ravyn as someone who is not interested in being enslaved or of owning a slave, she just likes kinky fun Â
Lostdreamer Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Yes, quite sucessfully. Â I run it beside DCL, defeat, a bunch of extra encounter mods and all sorts of other stuff. Â It's a big mod but seems stable enough. Â Â
Sarge Misfit Posted May 12, 2017 Author Posted May 12, 2017 Since I favour quests and collecting, I like that it incorporates a number of quest mods and has a ton of displays. I've installed it and look forward to seeing it for myself.
Vortec Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017  Legacy is a Great Mod...especially if your the OCD type lol, which I'm not. To Lodakai which spell are you referring too, been playing Legacy since 14 never seen that spell.   Yes you need to run Crash fixes with it like posted above.
Sarge Misfit Posted May 12, 2017 Author Posted May 12, 2017 Got it loaded, chose the ASLAL start Great work!! Â Haven't installed Crash Fixes yet. Testing its basic stability. So far, better than expected. I usually CTD once in the first half hour to hour after adding mods, but played about 4 hours last night after adding it to a save. Â Decided to add Convenient Horse this morning, started a new game, CTD an hour later. Which was expected. When I load and play some more, I'll see how things go. Â It does need one more thing, though. Â A 'Hall of Justice'Â Featuring all the tools, furniture and other things used in the pursuit of justice, to determine the innocent and to punish the guilty Â
khumak Posted May 12, 2017 Posted May 12, 2017 Crash fixes is an absolute must for Oldrim IMO. I did play with Legacy and sexlab stuff for awhile but only briefly before switching over to SE. I didn't have any issues other than just the general instability of Oldrim. I crashed a lot with Legacy loaded but I crashed alot without it loaded too.
Lifariz Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Also a 250+ plugins user with Legacy and Sexlab stuff here. I use Requiem too so I had to give up on Defeat but I rarely crash even with my build. As stated above it's normally script overload or when the hardware gets too hot so yeah. You just have to do more advanced stuff to stabilize your game.
Sarge Misfit Posted May 13, 2017 Author Posted May 13, 2017 Okay, so far I've CTD'd twice, once while traveling along an empty road and the second when I opened a body's inventory to loot it. Installing Crash Fixes. Â To satisfy anyone's curiousity about my system: Â AMD FX-6300 Six-core @ 3.5Ghz 8Gb DDR3-1600 RAM nVidia GeForce 720GT 1GbVRAM (yeah, kinda mediocre) 2 physical harddrives, 1.5Tb & 3Tb Â
arcticgale Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Okay, so far I've CTD'd twice, once while traveling along an empty road and the second when I opened a body's inventory to loot it. Installing Crash Fixes.  To satisfy anyone's curiousity about my system:  AMD FX-6300 Six-core @ 3.5Ghz 8Gb DDR3-1600 RAM nVidia GeForce 720GT 1GbVRAM (yeah, kinda mediocre) 2 physical harddrives, 1.5Tb & 3Tb  Sorry, OOT. but do you use ENB?
Sarge Misfit Posted May 13, 2017 Author Posted May 13, 2017 Nope. I've given it a try a few times but it never seemed to work right
Lodakai Posted May 13, 2017 Posted May 13, 2017 Okay, so far I've CTD'd twice, once while traveling along an empty road and the second when I opened a body's inventory to loot it. Installing Crash Fixes.  To satisfy anyone's curiousity about my system:  AMD FX-6300 Six-core @ 3.5Ghz 8Gb DDR3-1600 RAM nVidia GeForce 720GT 1GbVRAM (yeah, kinda mediocre) 2 physical harddrives, 1.5Tb & 3Tb  make sure you also enable OSallocators and use the preloader. If you are already over the string limit, you may need a new game in order to have everything allocated properly.
Sarge Misfit Posted May 13, 2017 Author Posted May 13, 2017 I have no idea of what the string limit is or how to find out  Starting a new game isn't an issue. Only just now finished Bleak Falls Barrow. I made a small mistake early on, 'talked' to a stray dog and now I can't get rid of it. Whoever designed the dog AI got it bang on. Bloody mutt sits IN the doorways, middle of the path and all the annoying things dogs do in real life. No wonder I'm a cat person
Lodakai Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 This article explains strings and how to detect if you are at or over the limit. Crash fixes was a result of this discovery and is intended to resolve the string count limit. It does it by changing the way the strings are allocated. Â That's why it's best to have it from the start.. so that all the strings are allocated properly (I think). Â https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/3924850-corrupt-saves-strcount-0xffff-ctd-on-load/ Â This is why it is important to install crash fixes with the OSAllocators enabled and as well as the preload as described in the crash fixes front page.
Sarge Misfit Posted May 15, 2017 Author Posted May 15, 2017 Well, played about 4 hours with no problem until I tried to put a Dwarven greatsword on a weapon rack in the Armory.  Not bad since I added about a half a dozen mods after LoD and without starting a new game when I added it in the first place.  I'm going to add Winstad Mine in the morning. I've run it before, never had a problem with it and I don't think it'll interfere with LoD, which is the only mod that I haven't run with it before.  And start a new game.  Oh, and the dog died.
Lodakai Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017 Well, played about 4 hours with no problem until I tried to put a Dwarven greatsword on a weapon rack in the Armory.  Not bad since I added about a half a dozen mods after LoD and without starting a new game when I added it in the first place.  I'm going to add Winstad Mine in the morning. I've run it before, never had a problem with it and I don't think it'll interfere with LoD, which is the only mod that I haven't run with it before.  And start a new game.  Oh, and the dog died.   If you want to push the envelope, you can try these settings in your skyrim.ini  [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=2.0 fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2.0 fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1600.0  * The settings in red come at a cost of framerate.  The default is 1.2   You can tweak these between 1.2 to 2.0 to give your scripts more time to run per rendering loop.  * The setting in green comes at a cost of longer loading times in your game transitions.  You can set this higher if you like... but the higher it is, the longer it takes to load each area when you transition.  These both give your game more time to run the scripts in different circumstances.  Because they come at a cost of frame rate or load time, you have to find the right balance for your rig and script load.
Sarge Misfit Posted May 15, 2017 Author Posted May 15, 2017 Thanks. Â Things seemed pretty stable last night, even after adding LoD to a save instead of starting new. And then adding a half a dozen more mods after that. 4 hours of play before a CTD isn't too bad for me No need for any envelope pushing at this point. Â Just about to start a new game, finished configuring MCM and about to select my ASLAL start. I'm thinking wandering merchant from Cryrodiil, come to Skyrim to take possession of her new property (bought via a trusted and discreet business agent), a house in East Reach, near Old Hroldan Inn. Takes Ravyn right to Helgen.
Lodakai Posted May 15, 2017 Posted May 15, 2017  Legacy is a Great Mod...especially if your the OCD type lol, which I'm not. To Lodakai which spell are you referring too, been playing Legacy since 14 never seen that spell.   Yes you need to run Crash fixes with it like posted above.  Sorry missed your post... it's in the mcm.. you need to enable it.  It's the closet access spells etc.
johnny2by4 Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017  I'm using it with sexlab, defeat, mias lair, and many many other mods.. including all the mods legends supports.  The problem you will run into is the string count limit.  If you plan on using it.. you ABSOLUTELY must use it with crash fixes with the OSallocator enabled as well as the skse preloader. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2551-crash-fixes/  Other than that.. the only time i crash is if the scripts fire off when I am using the automated museum display feature in the library... and that's only if someone starts doing the yumyum bouncy bouncy while those scripts are running.  It's extremely easy to avoid.  Just don't bring any slaves etc in with you.. and don't do anything until all museum items have been sorted.  This also goes true with the stash spell.  Verified working with the following load.  Your mileage may vary depending on your rig.    # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp EFFDialogue.esp EFFDialogueDLC.esp When Vampires Attack.esp ReadingTakesTime.esp ShakeIt!.esp ShakeItSomeMore!.esp College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp KAI MUSIC.esp SexLab Warmbodies.esp DanceTogether.esp Falskaar Wildlife.esp LostGrimoire.esp Vivid Weathers.esp Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp CobbPositioner.esp SerialStrip.esp AdditionalMusicProject.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp AliciaPainSlut.esp Better Spell Learning.esp SkyrimSewers.esp QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp buildablehouse.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp DBM_CACO_Patch.esp Tentapalooza.esp HearthCraft.esp NorthernCardinal.esp Immersive Wenches.esp SofiaFollower.esp RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp Immersive Horses.esp konahrik_accoutrements.esp Frostfall.esp Judgment Wenches.esp Deadly Wenches.esp Forgotten Wenches.esp Marriable Serana.esp Improved Adoptions.esp HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp Improved Adoptions DLC houses.esp Hateful Wenches.esp Prettier Bandits.esp Marriable Serana HF.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp CaranthirTowerReborn.esp SassyTeen.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp DBM_MAS_Patch.esp Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp DA_Skyship.esp DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp ForgottenCity.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp WheelsOfLull.esp Ciceriareplacor.esp Statues.esp Racial Body Morphs.esp TimingIsEverything.esp FollowerLivePackage.esp konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp LOTD Airship and Archaeology Patch.esp BadGremlinsJarHunt.esp SL99Exchanger.esp BGtheCapturedFairies.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp Sassy.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp MistySkye.esp RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp BGtrophyHeads.esp TropicalIsland.esp SexLab Eager NPCs.esp FoxMerged.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp BGsomethingFishy.esp iNeed.esp DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp CACO-Ordinatored.esp Scent of Sex.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp DragonsDiversified.esp Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch.esp PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp RDO - Follower Live Package Patch.esp DBM_CCOR_patch.esp DBM_Sofia_Patch.esp TKAA.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp dcc-dm2.esp FNISspells.esp Sexual Vampire Feed.esp PAH-HSH-Dialogue KAI.esp ogSplendorDragons.esp DiverseDragonsCollection3.esp iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp SexLabHoltAnimations.esp Lock Door.esp SLSO.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp KAI NPC RACE.esp KAI CRAFTABLES.esp SkyfallEstateBuildable.esp Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp KAI NPC OVERRIDE.esp JKs LITE - Cities.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp   ETA:  I should also add... legends is simply an amazing mod if you are a collector.  You can view all of your items there and theres a ton of quality of life features that you can use or chose to ignore..     Tired of getting weighed down by ingredients and ore in the middle of a dungeon?  Theres a spell to take everything that you may possible want to stash out of your inventory automatically and ship it off to the museum for sorting later.   just wanted to thank you for that post. i burned my skyrim folder about a year ago when i swapped in an SSD and haven't really had the time to start over, partially because i couldn't get a stable load order with mods like legacy in with sexlab. but your load order has rekindled that interest!  i do want to ask though, do you use an ENB and do you use a mod that overhauls NPC looks. wondering because i had some weird mashup of several mods for the NPC looks (including a korean and a chinese mod) and i really don't feel like doing that again, it was such a pain to modify that .esp file.
Lodakai Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017    just wanted to thank you for that post. i burned my skyrim folder about a year ago when i swapped in an SSD and haven't really had the time to start over, partially because i couldn't get a stable load order with mods like legacy in with sexlab. but your load order has rekindled that interest!  i do want to ask though, do you use an ENB and do you use a mod that overhauls NPC looks. wondering because i had some weird mashup of several mods for the NPC looks (including a korean and a chinese mod) and i really don't feel like doing that again, it was such a pain to modify that .esp file.   Yes I am using spectrum ENB slightly modified to my personal taste.  I prefered tetrachromatic at first.. but found spectrum to be a little bit lighter on the performance hit.  http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/40646/?.  I customized it to use a static DOF with glares and lens flares disabled.  I am using multiple replacer mods such as bijin and neus's mods.. but I made my own custom mashup using NPC Visual transfer tool...   http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64875/?.  The Visual transfer tool lets you put any followers face on any other npcs.  The way I incorporated some of bijin was to use individual files that i liked (separate esps.)  Transfer the visual of the npc to the same npc so that it goes into my custom ESP.. I can then disable the bijin esp..  The same goes for any follower visuals I added.  You need to keep all of the assets enabled in MO, but using this tool you can disable the accompanying ESP file.  As an example.. I use http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/67561/? as a replacement for my in game Sapphire from the thieves guild.  This way, if i find a follower that I think looks good.. I can just replace an existing npc visual without having a whole lot of ESP files taking over my mod list.
27X Posted May 28, 2017 Posted May 28, 2017 So, I came across the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod and it looks pretty good. However, the creator made specific mention of SexLab and Lover's Lab  - Sexlab/Lover's Lab mods: these are very script heavy and mess with core animation systems of the game which drastically destabilizes even the most solid game. Using any of the frameworks from this site along with Legacy will cause major problems.  To be honest, I don't see any of the mods here on LL as being more or less script heavy than any other mod no matter where its hosted. It all depends on the mod.  Anyway, has anybody else given this mod a play and how'd it work out?  That's some funny shit right there considering this guy is public enemy #1 when it comes to excessive number of strings. This mod BY ITSELF and no other mod WILL fuck your save eventually. Not if, but when.  To get the same string count as this mod you'd pretty much have to dl EVERY sex anim and pose mod ever made for Skyrim since it launched, and I'm not sure you'd still catch up, though with Funnybizness that might be even by now.  As pointed out, ReStringer and Crashfix are mandatory if you expect to finish your game with this mod.
Sarge Misfit Posted May 28, 2017 Author Posted May 28, 2017  So, I came across the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod and it looks pretty good. However, the creator made specific mention of SexLab and Lover's Lab  - Sexlab/Lover's Lab mods: these are very script heavy and mess with core animation systems of the game which drastically destabilizes even the most solid game. Using any of the frameworks from this site along with Legacy will cause major problems.   To be honest, I don't see any of the mods here on LL as being more or less script heavy than any other mod no matter where its hosted. It all depends on the mod.  Anyway, has anybody else given this mod a play and how'd it work out?  That's some funny shit right there considering this guy is public enemy #1 when it comes to excessive number of strings. This mod BY ITSELF and no other mod WILL fuck your save eventually. Not if, but when.  To get the same string count as this mod you'd pretty much have to dl EVERY sex anim and pose mod ever made for Skyrim since it launched, and I'm not sure you'd still catch up, though with Funnybizness that might be even by now.  As pointed out, ReStringer and Crashfix are mandatory if you expect to finish your game with this mod.   Yep, got Crash Fixes installed. Had a harddrive crap out and lost about two weeks of stuff. had that build real nice and stable. And at 255 for, that matter. Anyway, I keep copies of stable Data folders. Things aren't as good as they were, but I'm wondering if that might be due to running Win10 and not Win7.  Anyway, here's the current load order, LoD included. Plus Paradise Halls, Slaverun and Player Succubus Quest. I've gone a little light on the environment overhauls, generally keeping vanilla textures for terrain and buildings. All in all, its looking like I'm real close to a game I can play for a very long time.    Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Wyrmstooth.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm Campfire.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm SexLabAroused.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Heretical Resources.esm notice board.esp NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm TERAArmors.esm WM Flora Fixes.esp ZazExtensionPack.esm Amputator.esm Gray Fox Cowl.esm zzEsSp.esm paradise_halls.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm Cutting Room Floor.esp ADEC_SuccubusArmor.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp RealShelter.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp Helgen Reborn.esp Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Undeath.esp OBIS.esp CWIELnFXPatch.esp hydra_slavegirls.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp Captured Dreams.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp SexLab-Stories.esp SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp Horses of Skyrim.esp Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp Artifacts.esp Run For Your Lives.esp zDeviousStories.esp SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp Deviously Cursed Loot.esp OBISDB.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp OBIS Loot.esp Immersive Weapons.esp WindstadMine.esp SimpleSlavery.esp DeviousRegulations.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp DBM_CACO_Patch.esp ImCh.esp PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp DBM_IW_Patch.esp konahrik_accoutrements.esp Farm Animals.esp Farm Animals_HF.esp CoCo_TDM2.esp BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp DibellasRecruit.esp SMUTBDS.esp Devious Cidhna.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp zzEstrus.esp WheelsOfLull.esp Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp alesCampBedrollsSupplies.esp altvamplord.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp AngrimApprentice.esp DBM_WAF_CCF_CCOR_Patch.esp paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp DBM_CRF_Patch.esp konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp Isharas_TNB_LoTD_Addon.esp Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp DBM_ArtifactsOfBoethiah_Patch.esp pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp SGS.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Auto Unequip Helmet.esp BB mass ingots smelter.esp BCS - CCOR Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp BDSkimpyClothes.esp Better Embers.esp BlackRedLatexDress.esp Bondage Straps.esp Books of Skyrim Compilation.esp Brows.esp CampfireKExt.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp CD - D.D. Equip.esp CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp Convenient Horses.esp Craftable Arrows v1.2.esp dcc-dm2.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Devious Deviants.esp Devious Devices - Gags+.esp Devious Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp Devious Rubber Masks.esp DibellanDefender.esp EdhildilsBlacksmithArmor.esp EdhildilsDwarvencyborg.esp EK_RingLimiter.esp EquipableStockings.esp EstrusChaurus.esp EstrusSpider.esp FNIS.esp FNISSexyMove.esp FNISspells.esp Follow me for Sex.esp Gatti12Jewelry.esp Gatti3Evilrose.esp GattiBondage1.esp Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp NewVampChainsArmor.esp Glowing Eyes.esp HDT Piercingsets.esp Hermaeus Mora's Caress.esp ItemRewardsForBounties.esp KS Hairdo's.esp Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp Master Gets a Job.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp nakedforsworn.esp Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp non-devious devices.esp NoNakedComments.esp PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp QuieterDogs.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RSPatch.esp SerialStrip.esp SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp The Ordinary Women.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp Skyrim Sexy Remodeled Armor for CBBE.esp Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp SkyUI.esp SLA Monitor Widget.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp SlaveTats.esp SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp SLIA - Books of Skyrim.esp SLIA - Legendary.esp SLIA - Dawnguard.esp SLIA - Dragonborn.esp SLIA - Hearthfires.esp SLIA - Skyrim.esp SLIA - SMUT Books.esp SLIA - The Devious Manual.esp Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp SpikeBallOutfit.esp SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp Start As Breton Female.esp Steel Bolts For All.esp submissivelola.esp TERAArmors_CBBE.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp TradeBarter.esp TS_ECatsuit&Ballet.esp TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp TS_GimpHood.esp TS_RogueOutfits2.esp TS_SlickArmour.esp TS_XinPHHeels.esp UIExtensions.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp XiNafay - Shoes.esp XPMSE.esp ZaZHDTWorkshop.esp ZazResources.esp Zipsuit.esp Animated Dragon Wings.esp DBM_DPA_Patch.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp pahe-tdf-patch.esp paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp Simple Slavery Defeat.esp WarpNudeRings.esp Enchanted Devious Devices.esp Edhildils Sorceress Robes.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ccas_starts.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp kzy_AlternateStart.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp   Â
Sarge Misfit Posted May 28, 2017 Author Posted May 28, 2017 Oh damn, forgot to enable AOSAllocate That might account for an annoying glitch - QuickSave was taking longer and longer. if i deleted it and then used F5 to QuickSave ingame, it worked fine. but the second time, as an overwrite, took significantly longer. hopefully.
DiscipleDarkfriend Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 Personally I think the author of LOTD is just being prudish. I have never had any issues using Sexlab Mods with it and I am running a full SRLE LOTD setup with around 20 SL mods.
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