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An idea I've been toying with is to add Frostfall to my mods, which includes Devious Devices, Cursed Loot, Captured Dreams, Devious Framework and Devious Training.

 

Has anybody tried this?

Posted

I know, but what a challenge! :D

 

I already play using Campfire, iNeeds and Art of the Catch. Its mostly warmth and coverage in Frostfall that would be the issue.

We need a patch :)

After all, a full body rubber catsuit is definitely full coverage against rain and it traps body heat, so almost, if not full, warmth. :P

Posted

You can set items to add warmth and or coverage in game.. and also reduce the rate of exposure to give yourself more time.

Be careful with the load on papyrus though.  Chesko has really optimized frostfall since its release, but there is only so far you can go with script reductions.

Posted

You can set items to add warmth and or coverage in game.. and also reduce the rate of exposure to give yourself more time.

Be careful with the load on papyrus though.  Chesko has really optimized frostfall since its release, but there is only so far you can go with script reductions.

 

Yeah, script load is a problem. Looks like I'll have to drop Legacy of the Dragonborn until another time. I think I can drop Death Alternative since Deviously Cursed Loot has similar functions.

 

Posted

Haha  I had the same issue.. but dropped ineed and added legends.  I figured i can use CACO for hunger and sleep.. its pretty nonintrusive but i kinda miss ineed now.  I wish Last Seed would come out soon ><

Posted

I simply like the iNeed gadget :)

 

I figure another problem I give myself is additional NPCs. OBIS, More Bandit Camps. Hydagorgon's Slave Girls, the various Populated mods.

 

Current load order:

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
SexLab.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Campfire.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZazExtensionPack.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
notice board.esp
daymoyl.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm
SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm
WM Flora Fixes.esp
DeviousFramework.esm
NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
TERAArmors.esm
Amputator.esm
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
FNIS.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
UIExtensions.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp
RealShelter.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
OBIS.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
OBISDB.esp
OBIS Loot.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
CampfireKExt.esp
DeviousRegulations.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
Devious Armor DI, DD, DE, CD, DR.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
wolfclub.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp
Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
zDeviousStories.esp
SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
Riften Torturechamber.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
Skyshards.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
CoCo_TDM2.esp
CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
SLA Monitor Widget.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
TradeBarter.esp
DfwSupport.esp
SLIA - Legendary.esp
SLIA - The Devious Manual.esp
Books of Skyrim Compilation.esp
Start As Breton Female.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
Devious Devices - Gags+.esp
DibellanDefender.esp
EdhildilsDwarvencyborg.esp
ItemRewardsForBounties.esp
QuieterDogs.esp
SerialStrip.esp
SLIA - Books of Skyrim.esp
CD - D.D. Equip.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
SLIA - Dawnguard.esp
SLIA - Dragonborn.esp
SLIA - Hearthfires.esp
SLIA - Skyrim.esp
BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
DibellasRecruit.esp
SMUTBDS.esp
zNightMistressMansion.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
SLIA - SMUT Books.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
CagesDiverse.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
EK_RingLimiter.esp
Hermaeus Mora's Caress.esp
Steel Bolts For All.esp
BB mass ingots smelter.esp
Craftable Arrows v1.2.esp
XiNafay - Shoes.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
GagSFX.esp
Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp
Brows.esp
Gatti12Jewelry.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
submissivelola.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
Darkwind.esp
Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
AngrimApprentice.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
Beautiful Whiterun.esp
Isharas_TNB_LoTD_Addon.esp
Remodeled Armor.esp
RealisticWhiterun.esp
FNISspells.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
RSPatch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
non-devious devices.esp
SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
TS_ECatsuit&Ballet.esp
TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp
TS_GimpHood.esp
TS_SlickArmour.esp
TS_XinPHHeels.esp
Zipsuit.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp
SOS - Revealing Armors.esp
ADEC_SuccubusArmor.esp
altvamplord.esp
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
BDSkimpyClothes.esp
Devious Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp
Master Gets a Job.esp
PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp
AFT_PriorityBoost.esp
Ballet Boots.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
EstrusSpider.esp
KomAnimObjects.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
Naked Dungeons.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
NoNakedComments.esp
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
Sextreme-All.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
Superjump_2x.esp
ZaZHDTWorkshop.esp
Edhildils Dark Brotherhood Gear.esp
EdhildilsHelgenrogue.esp
Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp
Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp
Edhildils Dominatrix and Purelust.esp
Edhildils Sorceress Robes.esp
EdhildilsBlacksmithArmor.esp
EdhildilsGungFuGear.esp
Edhildilsmithrilblades.esp
EdhildilsOrcLordWarHarness.esp
Ehildils Mithril Armors.esp
DeviousTraining.esp
EquipableStockings.esp
SGS.esp
Gatti3Evilrose.esp
GattiBondage1.esp
FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp
nakedforsworn.esp
Skyrim Sexy Remodeled Armor for CBBE.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

 

 

Posted

Next playthrough you can alleviate some things somewhat by switching HDhighheels for NIHighHeels..  if you are willing to learn a bit of nif and TSVEdit to swap some compatibilities.

Also you only need the XPMSE plugin if you want everyone to use random combat styles.    It uses a cloak effect and that could put a small strain on a few things.  If you can live without,  maybe something you can ditch.

 

I'm surprised you didn't shove the wench series and prettier bandits in there =p

Posted

I'm not so good with the editing and such, so HDHeels is it. And I do like the random styles.

I remember trying Pretty Bandits and Immersive Wenches, not sure why I dropped them. It may have been in a past effort to trim mods. I've hit 254 a number of times.

Posted

I did play with Frostfall and DCL when I first discovered DCL. It works well for a while, but when your character gets stuck in a piece of equipment that locks a bodyslot from having warming (custom harnesses and catsuits especially), it really gets unplayable quickly. 

 

A Frostfall / DCL tietogether would need something to compensate for heat loss due to blocking devices to be functional, as well as a method to pitch a tent or light a fire when armbound. The first part would be rather easy - the friendly way would be to add a great big all-encompassing fur cloak which would work as a neck-and-down body coverage in relation to heat loss. More interesting ways would be integrating various Devious Devices to have warmth level similar to clothes. A more amusing way could be to add heating devices, such as heating plugs, cuffs and collars. 

 

Tents and bonfires. Well, I don't really know a good way to do this for an armbound character, but without the ability, you'd die pretty quickly. Armbinders are pretty essential (I feel) for a good bondage experience however, and as thus, it would need a solution. Problem is finding one that wouldn't feel overly silly / dumb (God, please no "Tent Shout" or random NPCs doing it for services).

Posted

As Lodakai said "You can set items to add warmth and or coverage in game.", so some of those problems disappear. I imagine that a full restrictive set; collar, corset, gloves and boots; would provide plenty of coverage and quite a bit of warmth. I figure that will take a bit of time to do (was hoping that somebody had made a patch). As for the rest, well, that's part of the idea.

 

"A more amusing way could be to add heating devices, such as heating plugs, cuffs and collars." Now THAT's an idea!

I imagine a follower would be handy in the case of being arm-bound and needing a fire. Beyond that, I don't know. That's part of the challenge.

 

Ravyn doesn't look to enslave anyone or become a slave, she just likes kinky fun. And, if it leads her into trouble, well, that's the way it goes. :P

Posted

 

Thanks! Looks like I need some of the other patches as well.

That Warm Bodies one looks great and it should do the trick. I've already added Follow Me For Sex and there's also DCL's Solicitation that I can use to "generate a little warmth" :P

 

I haven't actually added Frostfall yet, still setting things up, checking out a Player Home to use in the beginning, make sure it doesn't conflict with anything else, that sort of thing.

Posted

For that location, I like Elysium Estates. When location is not important, my fav is East Reach House. Only player home I know of that includes BDSM. I'm checking out Forest Shack. Its on the shore of Lake Ilinalta. Half-Moon Mill shows up on the compass. I have some ideas for a rather large mod (if I can ever get the hang of CK) that includes a farm and flour mill and that area might work out. It needs to be on that "loop" of roads that run by Whiterun up to Riverwood, to the Three Guardian Stones, along the lake, past Half-Moon Mill and Captured Dreams, down to the plain and then past Greymoor to Whiterun.

 

At the moment, using ASLAL's Mercenary from South Morrowind start, if Ravyn can walk from there, past Riften and to the shack, then I'll know the game is stable enough to add Frostfall.

 

current load order:

 


Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
SexLab.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Campfire.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZazExtensionPack.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
notice board.esp
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm
SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm
WM Flora Fixes.esp
 -DeviousFramework.esm (not activated as it might be conflicting with one or more of the Captured Dreams scenes)
NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
TERAArmors.esm
Amputator.esm
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
FNIS.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
UIExtensions.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp
RealShelter.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
OBIS.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
OBISDB.esp
OBIS Loot.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
CampfireKExt.esp
DeviousRegulations.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
Devious Armor DI, DD, DE, CD, DR.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
SLA Monitor Widget.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
- DfwSupport.esp (not activated as it might be conflicting with one or more of the Captured Dreams scenes)
Books of Skyrim Compilation.esp
Start As Breton Female.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
Devious Devices - Gags+.esp
DibellanDefender.esp
EdhildilsDwarvencyborg.esp
ItemRewardsForBounties.esp
QuieterDogs.esp
SerialStrip.esp
SLIA - Books of Skyrim.esp
CD - D.D. Equip.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
EK_RingLimiter.esp
Hermaeus Mora's Caress.esp
Steel Bolts For All.esp
BB mass ingots smelter.esp
Craftable Arrows v1.2.esp
XiNafay - Shoes.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
GagSFX.esp
Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp
Brows.esp
Gatti12Jewelry.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
BosmerShack.esp
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
zDeviousStories.esp
SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
Riften Torturechamber.esp
Skyshards.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
CoCo_TDM2.esp
TradeBarter.esp
SLIA - Legendary.esp
SLIA - The Devious Manual.esp
SLIA - Dawnguard.esp
SLIA - Dragonborn.esp
SLIA - Hearthfires.esp
SLIA - Skyrim.esp
BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
DibellasRecruit.esp
SMUTBDS.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
SLIA - SMUT Books.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
CagesDiverse.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
submissivelola.esp
Darkwind.esp
Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
AngrimApprentice.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
Beautiful Whiterun.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
iNeed.esp
RealisticWhiterun.esp
FNISspells.esp
RSPatch.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
non-devious devices.esp
SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
TS_ECatsuit&Ballet.esp
TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp
TS_GimpHood.esp
TS_SlickArmour.esp
TS_XinPHHeels.esp
Zipsuit.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp
SOS - Revealing Armors.esp
ADEC_SuccubusArmor.esp
altvamplord.esp
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
BDSkimpyClothes.esp
Devious Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp
Master Gets a Job.esp
PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp
AFT_PriorityBoost.esp
Ballet Boots.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
EstrusSpider.esp
KomAnimObjects.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
NoNakedComments.esp
Sextreme-All.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
Superjump_2x.esp
Edhildils Dark Brotherhood Gear.esp
EdhildilsHelgenrogue.esp
Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp
Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp
Edhildils Dominatrix and Purelust.esp
Edhildils Sorceress Robes.esp
EdhildilsBlacksmithArmor.esp
EdhildilsGungFuGear.esp
Edhildilsmithrilblades.esp
EdhildilsOrcLordWarHarness.esp
Ehildils Mithril Armors.esp
DeviousTraining.esp
EquipableStockings.esp
Gatti3Evilrose.esp
GattiBondage1.esp
FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp
nakedforsworn.esp
Skyrim Sexy Remodeled Armor for CBBE.esp
Follow me for Sex.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
ArtOfTheCatch.esp
SGS.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

 

Posted

So, game is stable. Checked into how to add protection values to items and got stumped. It appears that I have to edit things using TES5Edit. Not good. While I've edited scripts in Second Life and OpenSim, those are very simple and basic.

Posted

Time to take the plunge :P

 

The forest Shack will work out nicely. I'm going to use the ASLAL Patron of Local Inn - Falkreath start.

 

I like to give myself an explanation for why she is where she is when the game starts, so ...

 

Ravyn's "been huntin' and fishin' in these parts for years" (which is why she has a shack on the lake) and is in Falkreath, having a pint and getting warm. She had planned on selling some fish and pelts she had, but got waylaid not far from town. She was able to hold off one of the bandits, but the other made off with her horse. Not only did she lose the fish and pelts, but also her cloak, tent, axe, pickaxe, all but one of her waterskins and the bulk of her food. She still has a few septims, but she has to replace everything. She'd hoped to make enough to buy a bit of armour, or maybe a better weapon.

Posted

You dont need to do that... go into the game MCM.  You can set custom item warmth and coverage from there.

 

Once frostfall is enabled.. as soon as you wear the item.. go to the MCM.

Look under Armor and clothing.  It will list everything you are wearing.  

Find the clothing and use the dropdown to change the TYPE from NO Protection to what you think it should be.

Posted

You dont need to do that... go into the game MCM.  You can set custom item warmth and coverage from there.

 

Once frostfall is enabled.. as soon as you wear the item.. go to the MCM.

Look under Armor and clothing.  It will list everything you are wearing.  

Find the clothing and use the dropdown to change the TYPE from NO Protection to what you think it should be.

 

Yep, found that out! :D

 

I am using Equippable Stockings and set a pair of sheer stockings to having a Warmth value of 5 and Coverage of 0.

 

She's already found a couple of items, but hasn't tried any on. No keys and I set DCL's key spawning to zero. The only way for her to find keys is on dead bodies (running For The Masses with a 10% chance of a key).

 

All in all, its going pretty good, though I did turn Fast Travel back on.

 

 

Posted

You can designate items in SL MCM strip editor to always be removed.   But ya... if you find something tedious that does not improve your game experience, there is no reason to use it.   But, if you find anything on you that you want removed when doin the yumyum bouncybouncy..  strip item editor is your friend.  

Posted

Yea, tedious effects negatively impacting gameplay is sadly why I'm disliking a lot of the conseptually fun mods here. While there's a lot of good logic behind bondage devices being punishing to the character by adding negative effects, it also negatively impacts the game enjoyment of the player. 

 

I've tried Enchanted Devious Devices, and while I love the concept and feel that the balance between punishing and rewarding is far superior to other bondage-themed mods here, the lack of any sort of integration to DCL or other device-adding mods, devices tend to stack up or conflict a lot. Also, without an update matching the changed gear for DD, there's also a lot of equipment mismatches. 

BWitch is also a concept which adds gameplay potential rather than taking away, such as done by core DD bondage. The armbound spellcasting is rather... clunky however, and with how impractical follower control is in Skyrim, even with extensive follower modding, being a bondaged healer or spellcaster with a meatshield is very tedious. 

 

SD+, too, is an amazing concept, but since it basically completely neuters convensional gameplay and replaces it with a rather limited (and quite easilly bugged) event system without much player control or interaction. 

 

I dunno. Had I the energy, I'd love to learn coding through papyrus and whip something up, but the clunkiness of the CreationKit compiler and the slowness of loading skyrim to test code are both things that's holding me back. 

Posted

I am still planning on doing a Frostfall playthrough in the future. This gave me a very good idea of what to expect. I'll probably add Hunterborn for that, as well. But, I think I will drop as many quests and NPC adders as possible, too, and concentrate on enhancing the environment for that. I recently tried a texture pack, NobleTextureMod or something like that, looked GREAT! but put too much load on and I ended up with a black screen whenever I loaded a save, any save. Damn, it looked good.

 

The idea being to play the game realistically, though not necessarily immersively. I think Frostfall, Campfire, Art of the Catch, Hunterborn, iNeed, A Matter of Time along with Sexlab & DD (of course), Simple Slavery, Death Alternative, Prison Overhaul would be a good start. Hmmmmm .... Devious Training, too. Maybe not Devious Framework since she'd get locked in bondage furniture only through the actions of mods (I don't use the leash game part anyway). East Reach House for a player home ;) 

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