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I'm having a problem with some quests not triggering in Skyrim SE. most everything seems to be centered around Whiterun for instance, i can't get Ysolda's mammoth quest, or Amren's sword quest​ to trigger(cut scene does trigger), Braith bullies the other kid but he won't ask me to help, Carlotta won't ask me to help with Mikieal(sp), and the Redguard woman doesn't trigger. I have also noticed that Eriker's(sp) quest given by his sister is also not triggering.

 

Granted these quests are not terribly important but i'm worried that i'll miss out on content that i haven't experienced before or that I'll encounter something game breaking down the road. I'm relativity new to modding so I'm pretty sure it's something in my load order but i'm not sure what.

 

i've also done some research on multiple forums and this seems to be a common issue that people are experiencing, however i can't find any solutions. Here is my load order, thanks for any help you guys can provide!

 

Other relevant information:

     Tested with multiple new saves, still not triggering

     Using Mod Organizer 2 so nothing in the actual game folder should be overwritten

 

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  6  6 SMSkyrim.esp
  7  7 Campfire.esm
  8  8 Falskaar.esm
  9  9 ApachiiHair.esm
 10  a ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 11  b ApachiiHairMales.esm
 12  c TERAArmors.esm
 13  d RSkyrimChildren.esm
 14  e Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
 15  f Cutting Room Floor.esp
 16 10 SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
 17 11 SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
 18 12 SMSkyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp
 19 13 SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp
 20 14 SMSkyrim - TexturePack_Max.esp
 21 15 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
 22 16 WICO - Immersive Character.esp
 23 17 WICO - Immersive People.esp
 24 18 WICO - USSEP Compatible Patch.esp
 25 19 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 26 1a XPMSSE.esp
 27 1b dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 28 1c FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
 29 1d beltfastenedquivers.esp
 30 1e Real Roads.esp
 31 1f TrueBrows.esp
 32 20 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 33 21 SkyHUD.esp
 34 22 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 35 23 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
 36 24 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
 37 25 Immersive Wenches.esp
 38 26 Beards.esp
 39 27 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
 40 28 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
 41 29 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
 42 2a dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 43 2b Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 44 2c WeightLessTrueAll.esp
 45 2d Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 46 2e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 47 2f ElysiumEstate.esp
 48 30 ElysiumEstate-HF.esp
 49 31 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 50 32 Point The Way.esp
 51 33 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
 52 34 Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp
 53 35 DustEffectsSSE.esp
 54 36 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 55 37 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 56 38 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 57 39 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 58 3a iNeed.esp
 59 3b iNeed - Extended.esp
 60 3c ELFXEnhancer.esp
 61 3d WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
 62 3e Helgen Reborn.esp
 63 3f EliAtrociousRiftenTextureFix.esp
 64 40 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
 65 41 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 66 42 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
 67 43 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 68 44 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
 69 45 50 More Perk Points.esp
 70 46 When Vampires Attack.esp
 71 47 Simple AUA.esp
 72 48 UnreadBooksGlow.esp
 73 49 VioLens SE.esp
 74 4a VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
 75 4b WeightLessLegacyDragonParts.esp
 76 4c Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
 77 4d skyBirds_SSE.esp
 78 4e Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
 79 4f SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
 80 50 JobsofSkyrim.esp
 81 51 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
 82 52 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 83 53 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
 84 54 JKs Whiterun.esp
 85 55 JK's Riverwood.esp
 86 56 Run For Your Lives.esp
 87 57 Cloaks.esp
 88 58 Darkwater Crossing.esp
 89 59 Hunterborn.esp
 90 5a Shor's Stone.esp
 91 5b SofiaFollower.esp
 92 5c Frostfall.esp
 93 5d Ivarstead.esp
 94 5e Helarchen Creek.esp
 95 5f Kynesgrove.esp
 96 60 Whistling Mine.esp
 97 61 Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
 98 62 Karthwasten.esp
 99 63 ForgottenCity.esp
100 64 LABikiniSSE.esp
101 65 Ars Metallica.esp
102 66 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
103 67 LADX_SSE.esp
104 68 JKs Whiterun exterior.esp
105 69 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
106 6a RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
107 6b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
108 6c BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
109 6d Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
110 6e Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
111 6f Elemental_Staffs.esp
112 70 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp
113 71 CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
114 72 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
115 73 WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp
116 74 Unique Uniques.esp
117 75 JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
118 76 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
119 77 Footprints.esp
120 78 RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
121 79 RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
122 7a Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
123 7b Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
124 7c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
125 7d Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
126 7e Book of UUNP-CloaksSkyrim Patch.esp
127 7f GPPoses.esp
128 80 Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp
129 81 BecomeABard.esp
130 82 ValkyrieSwordShield.esp
131 83 Better Horses 3.0.esp
132 84 notice board.esp
133 85 WheelsOfLull.esp
134 86 blackreachrailroadnew.esp
135 87 Nightingale Prime remaster.esp
136 88 Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
137 89 Hunterborn - Campfire Leather Tanning.esp
138 8a WetandCold.esp
139 8b BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
140 8c SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
141 8d FlowerGirls SE.esp
142 8e FlowerGirls SE - Amorous Patch.esp
143 8f FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp
144 90 RSChildren - Complete.esp
145 91 RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp
146 92 Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp
147 93 BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp
148 94 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
149 95 NAT.esp
150 96 FNIS.esp
151 97 FNISspells.esp
152 98 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
153 99 ElementalArrows.esp
       Valerica.esp
       Serana.esp
       RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
       Bijin Wives.esp
       Bijin Warmaidens.esp
       Bijin NPCs.esp
       aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

​The last mods in this list are there just for textures, they are oldrim mods that won't work with the 64bit engine.


 

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I've been a bit confused about that, I have sorted with loot but the guide I used(S.E.P.T.I.M) said it's a bit inaccurate with the sse patch. Should I just run loot and leave it as is? I see what yiu mean about the alternative life patches,

 

Also, after a default sort with loot I have the grey head bug due to a problem with immersive NPC and WICO. That I can fix but I'm not sure if I should just leave what loot does alone. Thanks for the help btw :) like I said I'm new at this.

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updated my load order with LOOT, this is what it gave me

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  6  6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  7  7 SMSkyrim.esp
  8  8 Campfire.esm
  9  9 Falskaar.esm
 10  a ApachiiHair.esm
 11  b ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 12  c ApachiiHairMales.esm
 13  d TERAArmors.esm
 14  e RSkyrimChildren.esm
 15  f Cutting Room Floor.esp
 16 10 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 17 11 SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
 18 12 SMSkyrim - TexturePack_Max.esp
 19 13 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp
 20 14 WICO - Immersive Character.esp
 21 15 WICO - Immersive People.esp
 22 16 icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
 23 17 XPMSSE.esp
 24 18 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
 25 19 FastTravelSpeedMultiplier.esp
 26 1a beltfastenedquivers.esp
 27 1b Real Roads.esp
 28 1c TrueBrows.esp
 29 1d Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
 30 1e SkyHUD.esp
 31 1f Beards.esp
 32 20 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
 33 21 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
 34 22 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 35 23 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 36 24 WeightLessTrueAll.esp
 37 25 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
 38 26 Book Covers Skyrim.esp
 39 27 Lanterns of Skyrim Light Balance Patch.esp
 40 28 DustEffectsSSE.esp
 41 29 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 42 2a ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 43 2b iNeed.esp
 44 2c iNeed - Extended.esp
 45 2d ELFXEnhancer.esp
 46 2e WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
 47 2f Helgen Reborn.esp
 48 30 ElysiumEstate.esp
 49 31 ElysiumEstate-HF.esp
 50 32 EliAtrociousRiftenTextureFix.esp
 51 33 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
 52 34 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
 53 35 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
 54 36 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
 55 37 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 56 38 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
 57 39 50 More Perk Points.esp
 58 3a When Vampires Attack.esp
 59 3b Simple AUA.esp
 60 3c UnreadBooksGlow.esp
 61 3d VioLens SE.esp
 62 3e VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
 63 3f WeightLessLegacyDragonParts.esp
 64 40 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
 65 41 skyBirds_SSE.esp
 66 42 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp
 67 43 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
 68 44 Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp
 69 45 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
 70 46 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 71 47 JobsofSkyrim.esp
 72 48 SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
 73 49 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
 74 4a Point The Way.esp
 75 4b Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
 76 4c Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
 77 4d JKs Whiterun.esp
 78 4e JK's Riverwood.esp
 79 4f Run For Your Lives.esp
 80 50 Cloaks.esp
 81 51 Darkwater Crossing.esp
 82 52 Immersive Wenches.esp
 83 53 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp
 84 54 Hunterborn.esp
 85 55 Shor's Stone.esp
 86 56 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
 87 57 SofiaFollower.esp
 88 58 Frostfall.esp
 89 59 Ivarstead.esp
 90 5a Helarchen Creek.esp
 91 5b Kynesgrove.esp
 92 5c SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
 93 5d Whistling Mine.esp
 94 5e Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
 95 5f Karthwasten.esp
 96 60 notice board.esp
 97 61 WheelsOfLull.esp
 98 62 ForgottenCity.esp
 99 63 LABikiniSSE.esp
100 64 Ars Metallica.esp
101 65 blackreachrailroadnew.esp
102 66 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
103 67 LADX_SSE.esp
104 68 JKs Whiterun exterior.esp
105 69 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
106 6a RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
107 6b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
108 6c SMSkyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp
109 6d BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
110 6e Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
111 6f Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
112 70 Elemental_Staffs.esp
113 71 1nivWICCloaksNoGuards.esp
114 72 CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
115 73 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
116 74 WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp
117 75 Unique Uniques.esp
118 76 JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
119 77 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
120 78 Footprints.esp
121 79 RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
122 7a RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
123 7b Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
124 7c Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
125 7d Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
126 7e Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
127 7f Book of UUNP-CloaksSkyrim Patch.esp
128 80 GPPoses.esp
129 81 Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp
130 82 BecomeABard.esp
131 83 ValkyrieSwordShield.esp
132 84 Better Horses 3.0.esp
133 85 Nightingale Prime remaster.esp
134 86 Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
135 87 Hunterborn - Campfire Leather Tanning.esp
136 88 WetandCold.esp
137 89 RSChildren - Complete.esp
138 8a RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp
139 8b BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp
140 8c WICO - USSEP Compatible Patch.esp
141 8d NAT.esp
142 8e FNIS.esp
143 8f FNISspells.esp
144 90 ElementalArrows.esp
       Bijin Wives.esp
       Bijin Warmaidens.esp
       Serana.esp
       Valerica.esp
       Bijin NPCs.esp
       aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
145 91 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
146 92 SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp
147 93 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
148 94 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
149 95 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
150 96 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
151 97 FlowerGirls SE.esp
152 98 FlowerGirls SE - Amorous Patch.esp
153 99 FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp
       RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
 

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Loot does a pretty good job of resolving a lot of conflicts but it doesn't get everything right.  NPC overhaul mods it generally gets wrong, those need to be low in your list.  It looks like we're using a lot of the same mods so I can post my load order if it helps.  I've had no issues so far with it and have played it for over 200 hours.  I just added iNeed and You Hunger so I'm not sure yet if those are in the right spot.  Also I see you have both WICO and Diversity.  They both do the same thing pretty much so you may as well pick one, not much point using both.

 

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
SMSkyrim.esp
WinterholdDestruction.esm
Campfire.esm
Falskaar.esm
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
You Hunger.esp
ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Castle Volkihar Rebuilt.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Extended.esp
MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
Undeath.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
AutomaticItemStorage.esp
AutomaticItemStorage - Ordinator Patch.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
ABT SE - Kevkas All-in-One.esp
Better Harvesting.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Kato's Riverwood.esp
Point The Way.esp
Kato's Falkreath.esp
SimplyBiggerTreesSE.esp
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
AwakenedMagicka.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp
JKs Whiterun.esp
Cloaks.esp
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
CLARALUX SSE.esp
NPCs Protected Redux.esp
Eli_Breezehome.esp
OpulentThievesGuild.esp
Shor's Stone.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
Frostfall.esp
Ivarstead.esp
Helarchen Creek.esp
SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
Kynesgrove.esp
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp
Karthwasten.esp
CLARALUX SSE - JK's Whiterun.esp
notice board.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
InstantMining.esp
SMSkyrim - Meshes.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
SkyHUD.esp
MCoW_Cutting Room Floor.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
Real Roads.esp
LSFX-SSE-Audiosettings.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
DustEffectsSSE.esp
Mighty Dragons SE Medium Cooked.esp
DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-No Screen Blood.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
Pickpocket100Chance.esp
SMSkyrim - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp
LADX_SSE.esp
CLARALUX SSE - Point the Way.esp
CLARALUX SSE - Ordinator.esp
JKs Whiterun exterior.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
JK's SkyHaven Forge.esp
SkyHavenTempleGarden.esp
NPCs Protected Redux - CRF.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
ThaneWeaponsReborn.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
Blowing in the Wind - Helgen Reborn Patch SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - JK's Whiterun Patch SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
Facelight.esp
CLARALUX SSE - USSEP.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
CLARALUX SSE - JK's Whiterun Exterior.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp
Elemental_Staffs.esp
Simple AUA.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
VioLens SE.esp
VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
TCIY_BCS Patch.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
WetandCold.esp
CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
JS Armored Circlets SE.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
Footprints.esp
SSE High Quality Music.esp
Enhanced Diverse Mighty Dragons.esp
FNIS.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
OBIS SE.esp
Diversity - An NPC Overhaul.esp
Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
XPMSSE.esp
BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV.esp
Beards.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSSEP.esp
NPC Override.esp
Vivid WeathersSE.esp
Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Darkwater Crossing.esp
Whistling Mine.esp
ELFX - Hardcore.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp
CLARALUX SSE - Immersive Cititzens.esp
MCoW_ELFXHardcore.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp
RealisticWaterTwo+-+Verdant+Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp
SMSkyrim - Alternate Start + General Patch.esp
SMSkyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch.esp
CLARALUX SSE - LAL.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
FlowerGirls SE.esp
FlowerGirls SE - Amorous Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

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Thanks again for the assist, i'm going to try to copy the NPC overhauls that we share into the same load order. I did run with the new load order and i'm still getting the same issue, no radient quests from NPCs in whiterun, and elsewhere i suspect. I tried with my existing main save as well as a new one to rule out an issue with the file. thanks again!

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One other potential issue regarding the dark faces.  Diversity has not been patched for the latest version of USSEP.  Not sure about WICO.  I had to make my own patch that includes the facegen stuff from USSEP.  That's what the NPC Override in my load order is.  Older versions of USSEP work without a patch.

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I followed the S.E.P.T.I.M guide on the nexus, alongside predcaliber's YouTube video guide made for septim. Predcaliber teaches you how to clean the masters with sse edit. I thought everything had gone well. I should also note that my game is still stable, it's just the problem with the favor quests it looks like, that also means it's not just whiterun. Thieves guild radient are likely broken as well, though I haven't tested it yet

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Forgive me if I'm wrong but doesn't Relationship Dialog Overhaul fiddle with dialogs, (specifically quests from people who like you or not)? Just wondering if you have a mixture of things which might effect that particular mod. Just a passing thought, (I did have it in my load out but removed it for unrelated issues).

 

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As we seem to have similar tastes in mod's, (slightly), following is my current very not weird, (in terms of actual game play issues), load out. Might be worth comparing and contrasting your load out with mine. (Yes , I know boring).

 

 

 

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Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
Campfire.esm=1
Inn Girls Resources.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
TERAArmors.esm=1
NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm=1
Gray Fox Cowl.esm=1
WinterholdDestruction.esm=1
VanillaOptimized.esp=1
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1
BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp=1
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp=1
AK- Buyable Paintings and Pictures.esp=1
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1
3DNPC.esp=1
Elemental Destruction.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Elemental Destruction - Ordinator Patch.esp=1
High Level Enemies.esp=1
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp=1
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp=1
SkyTEST-Settings.esp=1
Skyrim Chocolate - No Cooking No Perks.esp=1
Combat Evolved.esp=1
TrueBrows.esp=1
True Eyes SE.esp=1
TrueEyesElves.esp=1
Beards.esp=1
Immersive Wenches.esp=1
Deadly Wenches.esp=1
LoreWorthyBandits.esp=1
Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp=1
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp=1
Holidays.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
SC08WayshrineTamriel.esp=1
Ish's Souls to Perks.esp=1
Oblivion Gates Remade.esp=1
Darkwater Crossing.esp=1
Shor's Stone.esp=1
Ivarstead.esp=1
Kynesgrove.esp=1
Whistling Mine.esp=1
Karthwasten.esp=1
Helarchen Creek.esp=1
Dragon Bridge.esp=1
Skyshards.esp=1
EasierRidersDungeonPackSSE.esp=1
OldHroldanRuins.esp=1
AKSkyrimUnderground.esp=1
Demonika.esp=1
Soljund's Sinkhole.esp=1
Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esp=1
Solsthdungeonpack.esp=1
AKTheLostDwemerCastle.esp=1
Distin.esp=1
Populated Forts Towers Places Legendary.esp=1
Populated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.esp=1
TheScarlett.esp=1
Clockwork.esp=1
Threeguardbarrow.esp=1
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp=1
ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp=1
BetterShapedWeaponsLW-XB.esp=1
More Weapons Please.esp=1
ScopedBows.esp=1
Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp=1
j3x-autocrossbows.esp=1
Unique Uniques.esp=1
Stiletto Collection.esp=1
Corrosive Weapons.esp=1
BetterGauldurAmulet.esp=1
Immersive Jewelry.esp=1
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Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp=1
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CommonClothes.esp=1
ColovianNobleClothes.esp=1
ImperialFineClothes.esp=1
ColovianFurClothes.esp=1
BarbarianSteelArmor.esp=1
LABikiniSSE.esp=1
DrSKnapsacks.esp=1
DrSMeadKegPack.esp=1
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Equippable Tomes.esp=1
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TERA Weapons.esp=1
LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp=1
WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1
InsanitySorrow Weapons Pack.esp=1
Craft Your Hold Guard Gear.esp=1
SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp=1
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp=1
PDCrossbow - Feykrosah Nin.esp=1
ElementalArrows.esp=1
More_Silver_Weapons.esp=1
A Month of Internet Depravity Weapon Pack.esp=1
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NudeYngvildSpirits.esp=1
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AsharaSkyrimCharacterPresetsReplacer.esp=1
Storefront.esp=1
NPCs of Dibella.esp=1
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Prettier Bandits.esp=1
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Hott Vampires 2.esp=1
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Ars Metallica.esp=1
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Search and Destroy.esp=1
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SCRR Coin Weight.esp=1
SummonableChest.esp=1
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Thief Friendly Skeletons.esp=1
Cliffracers_Solstheim_SSE.esp=1
IHSS.esp=1
Horse Texture Replacer.esp=1
SolitudeTempleFrescoes.esp=1
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ThievesGuildTrapDoor.esp=1
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VioLens SE.esp=1
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Diseased.esp=1
Diseased Droops Medicine.esp=1
AltarsDontCureDiseases.esp=1
Standing Stones Overhaul.esp=1
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1
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Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1
Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp=1
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BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp=1
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Werewolves.esp=1
Lupinus.esp=1
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Retching Netch Seating.esp=1
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ps sorry started this build on NMM and haven't got around to moving it over to MO yet - so crappy export listing.

 

pps

 

That's, IMO, a rock solid load out, have run several characters up to 20+ - which is basically all I ever do before getting bored - and it seems fine.

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I had that thought as well, but I booted up a fresh profile with nothing but LAL and the cleaned masters installed and I'm having the same issue. Unless RDO edits the registry of the masters and leaves lingering files after an Uninstall but mo2 is supposed to avoid that by not actually changing the game files.

 

Also, I quite like your load out, did you have to convert any oldrim mods or is everything plug and play?

 

I may just scrap this build and start over, not sure yet

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I had that thought as well, but I booted up a fresh profile with nothing but LAL and the cleaned masters installed and I'm having the same issue. Unless RDO edits the registry of the masters and leaves lingering files after an Uninstall but mo2 is supposed to avoid that by not actually changing the game files.

 

Also, I quite like your load out, did you have to convert any oldrim mods or is everything plug and play?

 

I may just scrap this build and start over, not sure yet

 

Just to clarify, you fresh installed, cleaned the masters, and installed LAL and the issue still occurs? So your mod load out would be in that scenario :-?

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

In which case, erm. Right assuming you have a cleaned out install and those were the only things in the list at this point, you could just check to see if you have a scripts file folder under data. (i.e. all those files you have now will come with .bsa's which have all their scripts bundled up into said .bsa's. So if that is your test load order for your issue you shouldn't really have any scripts file folder. For a test, (and if you do have it), just rename it to something like 'scriptsbackup', and see if it does the quests).

 

ps

 

Yep my load out has quite a bit of converted stuff in it. However there was quite a bit in there, (in terms of load order), which was similar to your load out. So it was just a pointer type thing.

 

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EEk, if you are using MO, the above probably isn't applicable. (However MO does have functionality which tells you what is overwriting what).

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That may be where I messed up, I didn't clear out existing .bsa files. I loaded a new profile, verified integrity through steam so I could obtain fresh masters and then cleaned them.

That's why I chose MO over NMM. I love that the files are open source and I can see exactly where bugs are occurring, also instead of overwriting the files permanently MO overrides on the fly based on your mod order if I understand it correctly. Much bigger learning curve but we'll worth it imo

 

Just read your post a bit more carefully, does MO not store edited scripts based on plug-ins. FNIS animations would be a good example.

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