alaw77 Posted December 20, 2016 Posted December 20, 2016 Sooooo...... my skyrim keeps crashing whenever i load an old save as well as when i finish character creation however whenever i finish making as character it plays for a little bit before it CTDs All I know is that my game was not crashing before I used LOOT. I was having aproblem with Shout Like a Virgin in that every time a scene started Nocturnal would just run away to I don't know where. So i went to the troubleshooting and it said i should try running LOOT unfortunately LOOT not only did it not fix it but it also made my game CTD when ever i load a save or finish making a character. Also after I finish making a character i have about a minute before it will crash and if i go into my inventory then it will not crash but after i get out it will eventually crash almost like it is pausing the time till it will crash. Also here is my load order i don't know if this will help though 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Falskaar.esm 6 6 Wyrmstooth.esp 7 7 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a Devious Devices - Assets.esm 11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 13 d daymoyl.esm 14 e hdtHighHeel.esm 15 f JSwords.esm 16 10 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 17 11 CreatureFramework.esm 18 12 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 19 13 ApachiiHair.esm 20 14 BeeingFemale.esm 21 15 SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm 22 16 MolagBalsInferno.esm 23 17 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 24 18 HighResTexturePack01.esp 25 19 HighResTexturePack02.esp 26 1a HighResTexturePack03.esp 27 1b 00RadialContainers.esp 28 1c Celes Nightingale Armor.esp 29 1d HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 30 1e VALVEHOLYBLADE.esp 31 1f DW.esp 32 20 JaxonzMapMarkers.esp aotmusicmod.esp PongLoad.esp 33 21 RaceMenu.esp 34 22 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 35 23 sr_FillHerUp.esp 36 24 MoreNastyCritters.esp 37 25 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 38 26 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 39 27 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 40 28 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp 41 29 SexLabZzz.esp 42 2a Deviously Enslaved.esp 43 2b dD Enchanted Chests.esp 44 2c DD_restrained.esp 45 2d Purity.esp 46 2e RealShelter.esp 47 2f sanguinesDebauchery.esp 48 30 BHTNF_Eli.esp 49 31 Shout Like a Virgin.esp 50 32 owenholiday-hearthfire-windstadmanor_fortify.esp Shadow Remover.esp 51 33 Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp 52 34 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 53 35 Captured Dreams.esp 54 36 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 55 37 Immersive Weapons.esp 56 38 wolfclub.esp 57 39 HentaiCreatures.esp 58 3a animal_mansion.esp 59 3b Blush When Aroused.esp 60 3c SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 61 3d DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp 62 3e Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 63 3f ImmersiveFP.esp 64 40 sr_ifpssl.esp 65 41 AllFemaleGuards.esp 66 42 Feminine Females.esp 67 43 SLA Monitor Widget.esp 68 44 Strap.esp 69 45 Immersive Arousal.esp 70 46 Horgasm.esp 71 47 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp 72 48 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 73 49 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 74 4a dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp 75 4b dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 76 4c Insanity's Dragonbane.esp 77 4d UIExtensions.esp 78 4e RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 79 4f SerialStrip.esp 80 50 SerialStripper.esp 81 51 SexLabSquirtR.esp 82 52 The Sherwood.esp 83 53 zzEstrus.esp 84 54 SexlabInteractiveArousal - Dawnguard.esp 85 55 SexlabInteractiveArousal - Skyrim.esp 86 56 AdditionalMusicProject.esp 87 57 AdditionalMusicProjectReplacer.esp 88 58 Lightweight Potions and Poisons.esp 89 59 SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 90 5a Artifacts.esp 91 5b Protest NO PAID MODS.esp 92 5c Cloaks.esp 93 5d SexLab Beastess.esp DeadlyMutilation.esp 94 5e DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp 95 5f SupermodelDawnguard.esp 96 60 SmallWomen.esp 97 61 AliciaPainSlut.esp 98 62 BeastessLair.esp 99 63 DeviousTraps.esp 100 64 CliffsideCottage.esp 101 65 PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp 102 66 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 103 67 qayl.esp 104 68 DeviousRegulations.esp 105 69 TCOSS.esp 106 6a LostLongSwords.esp 107 6b Marriable Serana.esp 108 6c TacticalValtheim.esp 109 6d White River Priory 1.2.esp 110 6e Trapped in Rubber.esp 111 6f BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp 112 70 SMUTBDS.esp 113 71 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 114 72 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 115 73 Avelyn Follower.esp 116 74 PetCollar.esp 117 75 sextoys-calyps-2.esp 118 76 TheChieftain.esp 119 77 SexlabInteractiveArousal - SMUTBDS.esp 120 78 RSPatch.esp 121 79 Insanity's Craftable Dragonbane.esp 122 7a Kimono's Witcher Silver Sword ITA Unenchanted Version.esp 123 7b CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp 124 7c LightBladesArmor.esp 125 7d Merta Black Rose Armor.esp 126 7e Better Vampires.esp 127 7f Seductress Serana.esp 128 80 mehrunes_bow.esp 129 81 Grimoire.esp 130 82 Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp 131 83 ElderBow.esp 132 84 DeviousToys.esp 133 85 S_L_U_T_S.esp 134 86 UNPNaughtyRemodel.esp 135 87 ForgottenCity.esp 136 88 PM_DwemerMusic_v1.0.esp 137 89 PM_DwemerMusic_NoVanilla_v1.0.esp 138 8a SignTown_by_YURIL.esp 139 8b Darkend.esp 140 8c SkyUI.esp 141 8d woyo-sensei metal recykling.esp set_walking_dead_sp0.esp 142 8e arousalvisuals.esp 143 8f Riding Styles.esp 144 90 SexLabWerewolves.esp 145 91 AncientTonguesSword.esp 146 92 AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp 147 93 The Bastard.esp 148 94 DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp 149 95 MithrodinSword.esp 150 96 FS_NamelessLight.esp 151 97 FS_Skycutter.esp 152 98 FS_SwordofTruth.esp 153 99 FS_Ygrayne.esp 154 9a Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 155 9b SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 156 9c Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 157 9d DibellanDefender.esp 158 9e SlaveTats.esp 159 9f Enchanted Devious Devices.esp 160 a0 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 161 a1 SOS - Shop.esp 162 a2 ApotheosisDemo.esp 163 a3 SexLabDefeat.esp 164 a4 mslDeviousCaptures.esp 165 a5 Slaves of Tamriel.esp 166 a6 isilNarsil.esp 167 a7 The old bow.esp 168 a8 RogueClothes.esp 169 a9 DeadricBowofGods.esp 170 aa Nordic Wanderer.esp 171 ab zzArmormashups.esp 172 ac GDZZJJDH.esp 173 ad AMatterOfTime.esp 174 ae SexLab Attraction.esm 175 af SexLab Approach.esp 176 b0 Marriable Serana HF.esp 177 b1 unlimited shouts.esp 178 b2 Devious Looting.esp 179 b3 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 180 b4 SGS.esp 181 b5 GlevBeastLoadScreensv1.esp 182 b6 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 183 b7 WildHuntress.esp 184 b8 PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp 185 b9 FNIS.esp 186 ba FNISSexyMove.esp 187 bb SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 188 bc EstrusChaurus.esp 189 bd KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 190 be SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp 191 bf Jennifer.esp 192 c0 A Month of Internet Depravity Weapon Pack.esp 193 c1 BVLT - Human.esp 194 c2 Norda.esp 195 c3 IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp 196 c4 RosaFollower.esp 197 c5 DragonBoneBikini.esp 198 c6 bordersense.esp 199 c7 Svs Daughter of War.esp 200 c8 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 201 c9 Succubus Heart.esp 202 ca RewardYourFollowers.esp 203 cb Raven Witch Armor.esp 204 cc ISD_Dragonspear.esp 205 cd Revenant.esp 206 ce HuntressArmor.esp 207 cf LiFE.esp 208 d0 Insanity's Ice Blade of the Monarch.esp 209 d1 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp 210 d2 Alacrity.esp 211 d3 Cataract.esp 212 d4 Duellist.esp 213 d5 Leviathan.esp 214 d6 lilithsharbinger.esp 215 d7 Mordant.esp 216 d8 Torus.esp 217 d9 Callisto Sword.esp 218 da Infinity Sword.esp 219 db MidnightBreed.esp 220 dc MaskofBlades.esp 221 dd svs L&M.esp 222 de _jiffy_DragonglassArmory.esp 223 df Chrysamere.esp 224 e0 DemonHunter_Scarf.esp 225 e1 DemonHunterV2armor.esp 226 e2 derp_maiden_mashup.esp 227 e3 Devious Deviants.esp 228 e4 Apropos.esp 229 e5 HavenBag.esp 230 e6 SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp 231 e7 SLAnimLoader.esp 232 e8 KomAnimObjects.esp 233 e9 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 234 ea ImmerSlave.esp
lurkalot Posted December 20, 2016 Posted December 20, 2016 Try moving the mod you think maybe causing the problem to the bottom of your load order . Also steam load order may be different to your load order .
VirginMarie Posted December 20, 2016 Posted December 20, 2016 I was having a problem with Shout Like a Virgin in that every time a scene started Nocturnal would just run away to I don't know where. This problem is almost certainly because you've not installed Zaz Animations correctly (usually to do with the Zaz patch missing or not installed correctly). Follow steps in my Troubleshooting #3 to fix that specific problem. As for CTD. You can't resort and then use a save that had a different sort, and expect things to go well. You have to start a new game if you do that. Skyrim HATEs it if you remove mods or change sort order mid-playthrough. If you want to avoid corrupting your save, never change sort order or remove mods mid-playthrough, you can only safely add mods to the end of your load order.
Nefim Posted December 20, 2016 Posted December 20, 2016 while what Virgin said is true... Your problem is that loot really borked your load order... For instance, the unofficial patch needs to be right after the dlc esms. There is also a little snafu in the creatures esps load order... Dawnguard needs to be before Dragonborn ... Though I doubt this is actually causing any problems. While it isn't stated anywhere Fnis should probably be lower in your load order. I have noo clue what the majority of your mods are so I cannot say where in the load order they should go... Best bet is to go through your mods, find out if there is any special load order required and follow it. You can at the same time check and see if you missed any updates etc ( or installed Zaz wrong). I usually hand sort my mods because Loot has screwed me over more than once.
alaw77 Posted December 20, 2016 Author Posted December 20, 2016 Ok thanks Nefim what you said helped me figure something out I think it is alternate start because it crashes after a bit of time when i first start but if i load a save or get out of the ASLAL start room the crashes dont happen does anybody have any idea how to fix this?
Wolborg Posted December 21, 2016 Posted December 21, 2016 does anybody have any idea how to fix this? One idea how to fix things is to search for mod conflicts with TES5Edit. For me it has resulted in several occasions of "Oh no, THIS should certainly not overwrite THAT", and then I created a corresponding rule in LOOT to have those esps arranged in the right sequence in the future.
alaw77 Posted December 21, 2016 Author Posted December 21, 2016 So I have another problem. and i think this might be what is causing to crash but there are a couple of mods that are at the top of the plugin list that cannot be moved below a certain point and most of them weren't at the top of my load order and now i cant move them. Because LOOT masterlisted them or whatever does anyone know how to fix this?
Rebel Marauder Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 Make a brand new save and check it with Savetool, if the application crashes your using too many scripted mods or mods with mcm menus (adding too many strings into your game) If this is the case then your either going to have to reduce your load order by a few dozen mods or try using Crash Fixes in the hope it stabilizes your game. Also I noted that your running Real Shelter but you haven't patched it (as in there is no RSPatch.esp like there should be) You've also not made a bashed patch which with that many mods that add items to your leveled lists is a big no no Try my suggestions and see how it goes.
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