SnowieScrolls Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 So, I have the Ultimate NPC Overhaul II running in and amongst all of my mods, some 18+, some not. I'm getting the "grey face glitch" which makes certain NPC's return to their normal presets etc, and males have a grey face while females have a reddish face. I've tried moving default outfits for female elder npc's below the NPC overhaul as well as moving the esp below it, but that didn't fix it. I honestly have so many mods installed that I'm not sure which ones may be trying to edit NPC's, other than the obvious elder mod. If anyone could take a look at my modlist and load order to let me know what the issue is, that would be fantastic. Thanks in advance! Load order: 0. Skyrim Update Dawnguard HearthFires Dragonborn Skyrim Project Optimization Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch SexLab SexLabAroused Devious Devices - Assets Campfire ZaZAnimationPack Devious Devices - Integration ClimatesOfTamriel RSkyrimChildren ApachiiHair ApachiiHairFemales ApachiiHairMales SGHairPackBase Daymoyl hdtHighHeel Devious Devices - Expansion CreatureFramework Schlongs of Skyrim - Core HighResTexturePack01 HighResTexturePack02 HighResTexturePack03 Unofficial High Resolution Patch Cutting Room Floor Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux Brawl Bugs CE Paralysis dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic XPMSE RaceMenu RaceMenuPlugin SkyUI ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Guard Dialogue Overhaul Weapons & Aromr Fixes_Remade Invisibility Eyes Fix KS Hairdo’s LovelyHairstyles SGHairPackAIO CoT-WeatherPatch TrueStorms TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel Mintylightningmod mintylightningmod_COT_Patch 12FemaleBrows Auto Unequip Ammo FNIS LindsMerEyes MikanEyes All in one NewMikanEyes The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition TrueBrows Chesko_WearableLantern Dual Sheath Redux JKs Skyrim Clothing & Clutter Fixes Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists WetandCold WetandCold - Ashes ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch RealisticWaterTwo CoT-WeatherPatch_DB NARC-Deadly Dragons (NOT ACTIVE) HearthfireMultiKid HearthfireMultiKid_LastName UFO - Dragonborn AddOn Better Vampires LootandDegradation Extended UI ogDiverseDragons2 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP SD Cages Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors PerkusMaximus_Master PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch PerkusMaximus_Mage SexLab_DibellaCult RSChildren - Complete PerkusMaximus_Warrior RSChildren_PatchUSKP (NOT ACTIVE) Captured Dreams SexLab-Stories BFT Ships and Carriages Skyrim Project Optimization Potions Potions - Requiem17 SexLabSkoomaWhore RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary Run For Your Lives UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul SMIM-Merged-All xazPrisonOverhaul xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch Dead Body Collision Frostfall sanguinesDebauchery PerkusMaximus_Thief Deviously Cursed Loot SimpleSlavery Skyrim Flora Overhaul Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SFO - Dragonborn Sexlab_Dialogues Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors Drinking Fountains of Skyrim SexLab-StoriesDevious Immersive Music Temples Immersive Music Replacer iNeed LakeviewBathhouse WinstadBathhouse JelharchenBathhouse FNISspells OmEyes TheEyesOfBeauty Ultimate NPC Overhaul II Immersive Weapons WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch Imp_helpl_legend UFO - AlwaysDrawWeapons PerMa_USLEEP master patch PerMaDefluffedPerkDescriptions ShowersInInns Starting Spell Choice Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer ElderOutfit Devious Deviants SexlabDefeat DeviouslyHelpless zzEstrus EstrusChaurus SlaveTats SlaveTatsEventBridge Sexlab_DibellaCult_Sisters SexLab Romance Tiwa44_Minidresses Remodeled Armor - Underwear Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn SexistGuards MoreNastyCritters SexLabNudeCreatures SexLabNudeCreaturesDB SexLabNudeCreaturesDG WRenchanter_tilted iNeed - Dangrous Diseases Schlongs of Skyrim SOS - Smurf Average Addon SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon Potions - Perma Patch SexLabWerewolves SLAnimLoader FNISSexyMove KS Hairdos - HDT iHUD Bathing in Skyrim - Main RealisticRoomRental Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental SexLabDangerousNights2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life Patch - Starting Spell Choice - Live Another Life Ccas_starts ImmerSlave PatchusMaximus Dual Sheath Redux Patch Mod List: SKSE SKSE-Scripts SKSE ini pre-download for lazy users Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Patch Unofficial High Resolution Patch SkyUI Appropriately Attired Jarls Dead Body collision Fix Enchandment Reload Fix Fuz Ro Doh Guard Dialogue Overhaul Improved closefaced helmets Invisibility Glitch - Eyes Fix Cutting Room Floor Default Outfits for Females Elder NPCs Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0 Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0 HOTFIX NARC - No Animals Report Crimes Ragdoll Paralysis Skyrim Project Optimization Extended UI Smart Souls Immersive Weapons Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Clothing and Clutter Fixes Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade Realistic Ragdolls and Force Hearthfire multiple adoptions Magiska DIMONIZED UNP Female Body HDT Physics Extensions Bodyslide and Outfit Studio (UUNP) Creature Framework More Nasty Critters FNIS FNIS Creature Addon FNIS Spells Addon FNIS Sexy Move Female Sprinting Female Jumping Female Sneaking <FNIS PATCH HERE> SexLab Framework v162 FULL Campfire - Complete Camping System SOS (full) Brawl Bugs Patch ZazAnimationPack All-in-one HDT Animated Pussy Better Vampires XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended Run For Your Lives RaceMenu ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer Female Vampires Have Fangs More Realistic Hair Static Mesh Improvement Mod JK’s Skyrim Skyrim Flora Overhaul Verdant - A Skyrim Brass Plugin UNP Minidresses Collection Remodeled Armor for UUNP Bodyslide HDT Minidresses Collection for UUNP Bodyslide Immersive Music Auto Unequip Ammo The Eyes of Beauty The Eyes of Beauty Elves Addon True Brows Linds Elven Eyes Mikan Eyes New Mikan Eyes OmEyes ApachiiSkyHair ApachiiSkyHair Female Addon ApachiiSkyHair Male Addon KS Hairdos - Renewal Lovely Hairstyles SG Hair Pack SCE - Warpaint and Dirt Ultimate NPC Overhaul II RS Children Overhaul Drinking Fountains of Skyrim iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep Wet and Cold Breezehome enchanting table (tilted) Realistic Water Two Realistic Water Two ENB Textures Climates Of Tamriel-V Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone Lightning during Thunder Storms Lightning during Thunder Storms COT Patch Realistic Lighting Overhaul RealVision ENB Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul PerMa Compatibility and PaMa Patches PerMa Defluffing Perks Better Fast Travel - Carriages and Ships - Overhauled UFO - Compatibility Version Prison Overhaul Prison Overhaul Patches Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO Potions Replacer Potions Replacer Patch Potions Replacer PerMa Patch Lifelike Idle Animations Loot and Degradation OneTweak Immersive HUD - iHUD UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul Alternate Start - Live Another Life Starting Spell Choice Patch - Starting Spell Choice and Live Another Life UFO - Dragonborn AddOn UFO - Always Draw Weapons Underworld Awakening - Hybrid Vampire Eyes HDT HighHeels System Wearable Lanterns SLAnimLoader SexLabAroused Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Integration Devious Devices Expansion Sexist Guards DD Captured Dreams CD Name Fix Skooma Whore Deviously Cursed Loot Sexlab Defeat Deviously Helpless Estrus For Skyrim Estrus Chaurus Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival Estrus Chaurus Spider Addon Frostfall SkyUI Addon JContainers SlaveTats SlaveTats Events Bridge Androol Slut Androol Sub Elf Meet Orc Rutah-nordic SlaveTats-criminal SlaveTats-draconic slaveTats-property SlaveTats-slut SlaveTats-sm SlaveTats-Submissive SlaveTats-whore Grine Slavetats (CCAS) EZ2C Dialogue Menu SexLab Dialogues SD Plus SD+ Frostfall Addon SD Cages Dibella Sisterhood Dibella Sisterhood Outfit Changes Dibella Sisterhood Bodyslide SexLab Stories SexLab Devious Stories SL Devious Stories Milkharness (Bodyslide) Simple Slavery Immerslave SexLab Werewolves SexLab Romance Content Consumer’s Alternate Starts (CCAS) Dangerous Nights FunnyBizness SLAL Pack (Shashankie) Dual Sheath Redux Dual Sheath Redux PerMa Patch Realistic Room Rental-Basic Showers in Inns Bathing in Skyrim <BODYSLIDE BUILD> <PERMA PATCH> <DSR PATCH> SOLUTION: It was Perkus Maximus's patcher, Patchus Maximus, which was causing the issue. I moved the UNO2 esp down in my load order so that it was just below Patchus Maximus. I left Dual Sheath Redux at the end of the load order.
onesumgame Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 So, I have the Ultimate NPC Overhaul II running in and amongst all of my mods, some 18+, some not. I'm getting the "grey face glitch" which makes certain NPC's return to their normal presets etc, and males have a grey face while females have a reddish face. I've tried moving default outfits for female elder npc's below the NPC overhaul as well as moving the esp below it, but that didn't fix it. I honestly have so many mods installed that I'm not sure which ones may be trying to edit NPC's, other than the obvious elder mod. If anyone could take a look at my modlist and load order to let me know what the issue is, that would be fantastic. Thanks in advance! Load order: 0. Skyrim Update Dawnguard HearthFires Dragonborn Skyrim Project Optimization Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch SexLab SexLabAroused Devious Devices - Assets Campfire ZaZAnimationPack Devious Devices - Integration ClimatesOfTamriel RSkyrimChildren ApachiiHair ApachiiHairFemales ApachiiHairMales SGHairPackBase Daymoyl hdtHighHeel Devious Devices - Expansion CreatureFramework Schlongs of Skyrim - Core HighResTexturePack01 HighResTexturePack02 HighResTexturePack03 Unofficial High Resolution Patch Cutting Room Floor Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux Brawl Bugs CE Paralysis dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic XPMSE RaceMenu RaceMenuPlugin SkyUI ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Guard Dialogue Overhaul Weapons & Aromr Fixes_Remade Invisibility Eyes Fix KS Hairdo’s LovelyHairstyles SGHairPackAIO CoT-WeatherPatch TrueStorms TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel Mintylightningmod mintylightningmod_COT_Patch 12FemaleBrows Auto Unequip Ammo FNIS LindsMerEyes MikanEyes All in one NewMikanEyes The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition TrueBrows Chesko_WearableLantern Dual Sheath Redux JKs Skyrim Clothing & Clutter Fixes Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists WetandCold WetandCold - Ashes ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch RealisticWaterTwo CoT-WeatherPatch_DB NARC-Deadly Dragons (NOT ACTIVE) HearthfireMultiKid HearthfireMultiKid_LastName UFO - Dragonborn AddOn Better Vampires LootandDegradation Extended UI ogDiverseDragons2 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP SD Cages Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors PerkusMaximus_Master PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst Pre PaMa WAFR CCF CCOR Wintermyst Patch PerkusMaximus_Mage SexLab_DibellaCult RSChildren - Complete PerkusMaximus_Warrior RSChildren_PatchUSKP (NOT ACTIVE) Captured Dreams SexLab-Stories BFT Ships and Carriages Skyrim Project Optimization Potions Potions - Requiem17 SexLabSkoomaWhore RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary Run For Your Lives UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul SMIM-Merged-All xazPrisonOverhaul xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch Dead Body Collision Frostfall sanguinesDebauchery PerkusMaximus_Thief Deviously Cursed Loot SimpleSlavery Skyrim Flora Overhaul Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SFO - Dragonborn Sexlab_Dialogues Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors Drinking Fountains of Skyrim SexLab-StoriesDevious Immersive Music Temples Immersive Music Replacer iNeed LakeviewBathhouse WinstadBathhouse JelharchenBathhouse FNISspells OmEyes TheEyesOfBeauty Ultimate NPC Overhaul II Immersive Weapons WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch Imp_helpl_legend UFO - AlwaysDrawWeapons PerMa_USLEEP master patch PerMaDefluffedPerkDescriptions ShowersInInns Starting Spell Choice Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer ElderOutfit Devious Deviants SexlabDefeat DeviouslyHelpless zzEstrus EstrusChaurus SlaveTats SlaveTatsEventBridge Sexlab_DibellaCult_Sisters SexLab Romance Tiwa44_Minidresses Remodeled Armor - Underwear Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn SexistGuards MoreNastyCritters SexLabNudeCreatures SexLabNudeCreaturesDB SexLabNudeCreaturesDG WRenchanter_tilted iNeed - Dangrous Diseases Schlongs of Skyrim SOS - Smurf Average Addon SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon Potions - Perma Patch SexLabWerewolves SLAnimLoader FNISSexyMove KS Hairdos - HDT iHUD Bathing in Skyrim - Main RealisticRoomRental Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental SexLabDangerousNights2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life Patch - Starting Spell Choice - Live Another Life Ccas_starts ImmerSlave PatchusMaximus Dual Sheath Redux Patch Mod List: SKSE SKSE-Scripts SKSE ini pre-download for lazy users Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Patch Unofficial High Resolution Patch SkyUI Appropriately Attired Jarls Dead Body collision Fix Enchandment Reload Fix Fuz Ro Doh Guard Dialogue Overhaul Improved closefaced helmets Invisibility Glitch - Eyes Fix Cutting Room Floor Default Outfits for Females Elder NPCs Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0 Diverse Dragons Collection 2.0 HOTFIX NARC - No Animals Report Crimes Ragdoll Paralysis Skyrim Project Optimization Extended UI Smart Souls Immersive Weapons Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade Clothing and Clutter Fixes Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade Realistic Ragdolls and Force Hearthfire multiple adoptions Magiska DIMONIZED UNP Female Body HDT Physics Extensions Bodyslide and Outfit Studio (UUNP) Creature Framework More Nasty Critters FNIS FNIS Creature Addon FNIS Spells Addon FNIS Sexy Move Female Sprinting Female Jumping Female Sneaking <FNIS PATCH HERE> SexLab Framework v162 FULL Campfire - Complete Camping System SOS (full) Brawl Bugs Patch ZazAnimationPack All-in-one HDT Animated Pussy Better Vampires XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended Run For Your Lives RaceMenu ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer Female Vampires Have Fangs More Realistic Hair Static Mesh Improvement Mod JK’s Skyrim Skyrim Flora Overhaul Verdant - A Skyrim Brass Plugin UNP Minidresses Collection Remodeled Armor for UUNP Bodyslide HDT Minidresses Collection for UUNP Bodyslide Immersive Music Auto Unequip Ammo The Eyes of Beauty The Eyes of Beauty Elves Addon True Brows Linds Elven Eyes Mikan Eyes New Mikan Eyes OmEyes ApachiiSkyHair ApachiiSkyHair Female Addon ApachiiSkyHair Male Addon KS Hairdos - Renewal Lovely Hairstyles SG Hair Pack SCE - Warpaint and Dirt Ultimate NPC Overhaul II RS Children Overhaul Drinking Fountains of Skyrim iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep Wet and Cold Breezehome enchanting table (tilted) Realistic Water Two Realistic Water Two ENB Textures Climates Of Tamriel-V Climates of Tamriel - Weather Patch True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone Lightning during Thunder Storms Lightning during Thunder Storms COT Patch Realistic Lighting Overhaul RealVision ENB Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul PerMa Compatibility and PaMa Patches PerMa Defluffing Perks Better Fast Travel - Carriages and Ships - Overhauled UFO - Compatibility Version Prison Overhaul Prison Overhaul Patches Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - RDO Potions Replacer Potions Replacer Patch Potions Replacer PerMa Patch Lifelike Idle Animations Loot and Degradation OneTweak Immersive HUD - iHUD UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul Alternate Start - Live Another Life Starting Spell Choice Patch - Starting Spell Choice and Live Another Life UFO - Dragonborn AddOn UFO - Always Draw Weapons Underworld Awakening - Hybrid Vampire Eyes HDT HighHeels System Wearable Lanterns SLAnimLoader SexLabAroused Devious Devices Assets Devious Devices Integration Devious Devices Expansion Sexist Guards DD Captured Dreams CD Name Fix Skooma Whore Deviously Cursed Loot Sexlab Defeat Deviously Helpless Estrus For Skyrim Estrus Chaurus Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival Estrus Chaurus Spider Addon Frostfall SkyUI Addon JContainers SlaveTats SlaveTats Events Bridge Androol Slut Androol Sub Elf Meet Orc Rutah-nordic SlaveTats-criminal SlaveTats-draconic slaveTats-property SlaveTats-slut SlaveTats-sm SlaveTats-Submissive SlaveTats-whore Grine Slavetats (CCAS) EZ2C Dialogue Menu SexLab Dialogues SD Plus SD+ Frostfall Addon SD Cages Dibella Sisterhood Dibella Sisterhood Outfit Changes Dibella Sisterhood Bodyslide SexLab Stories SexLab Devious Stories SL Devious Stories Milkharness (Bodyslide) Simple Slavery Immerslave SexLab Werewolves SexLab Romance Content Consumer’s Alternate Starts (CCAS) Dangerous Nights FunnyBizness SLAL Pack (Shashankie) Dual Sheath Redux Dual Sheath Redux PerMa Patch Realistic Room Rental-Basic Showers in Inns Bathing in Skyrim <BODYSLIDE BUILD> <PERMA PATCH> <DSR PATCH> Try moving it further down the load order, like below KS Hairdos, and don't include it in any bashed patch.
SnowieScrolls Posted November 29, 2016 Author Posted November 29, 2016 Try moving it further down the load order, like below KS Hairdos, and don't include it in any bashed patch. I moved it down to almost the end, and that fixed some of the NPCs but not all. Balgruuf and Irileth still have strangely colored heads.
Guest ffabris Posted November 29, 2016 Posted November 29, 2016 The issue is also BSA vs loose files: loose files always "win", even if the mod is higher in the load order than UNO2 is.
SnowieScrolls Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 The issue is also BSA vs loose files: loose files always "win", even if the mod is higher in the load order than UNO2 is. Hmm, any way around this?
Guest ffabris Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 A few ways. For example, any one of the following: Change your load order such that mods which are loose always follow mods which are compressed into BSAs. That way the loose facegendata files will match the NPC data which is last in your load and therefore referenced in your game. If you have loose mods that alter NPCs, compress them into BSAs. If you have BSA mods, you can extract the files to make them loose. If you do 2 or 3, then load order doesn't matter (at least as far as concerns NPC faces; it will still mater for other things, as usual). My approach is 2: I always compress loose files into BSAs, unless I need them loose for development reasons.
SnowieScrolls Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 A few ways. For example, any one of the following: Change your load order such that mods which are loose always follow mods which are compressed into BSAs. That way the loose facegendata files will match the NPC data which is last in your load and therefore referenced in your game. If you have loose mods that alter NPCs, compress them into BSAs. If you have BSA mods, you can extract the files to make them loose. If you do 2 or 3, then load order doesn't matter (at least as far as concerns NPC faces; it will still mater for other things, as usual). My approach is 2: I always compress loose files into BSAs, unless I need them loose for development reasons. So, how do I compress them into BSAs? And these mods are the ones that have folders in them--like meshes, textures, etc, right?
Guest ffabris Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 You use Archive.exe, which comes with Creation Kit. If you don't know how to make or extract BSAs, you're better off with option 1 on my list. Less fuss.
SnowieScrolls Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 You use Archive.exe, which comes with Creation Kit. If you don't know how to make or extract BSAs, you're better off with option 1 on my list. Less fuss. I tried moving the esp up to 13 in my load order (right after sg hair pack), and that did nothing. I then tried moving it almost to the end of the load order and it fixed some NPC's, but others are still bugged. For example, Olfina Gray-Mane was fixed, but Balgruuf, Irileth, Vilkas, and Aela (to name a few) were still having the bug.
Guest ffabris Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 OK, which version of UNO2 do you have, loose or BSA? If the BSA version, remove that, get the loose version and install that instead. Then put UNO2 at or near the end of your load. Clearly, some other mod you have installed, is conflicting here, some mod that is changing the NPCs that have grey face. Alternate Start might be one. Maybe.
SnowieScrolls Posted November 30, 2016 Author Posted November 30, 2016 OK, which version of UNO2 do you have, loose or BSA? If the BSA version, remove that, get the loose version and install that instead. Then put UNO2 at or near the end of your load. Clearly, some other mod you have installed, is conflicting here, some mod that is changing the NPCs that have grey face. Alternate Start might be one. Maybe. I have the loose version of UNO2. I found out it's PaMa that's screwing it up, because I moved it first to the bottom with only pama and DSR below it, no change. Moved DSR up, no change. Moved DSR back to the bottom of the list, and UNO2 down one below pama, and all is well now Unfortunately this overrided the elder outfits, but at least now I know how to make it functional and which mod author to report the bug to. Thank you for your help!
Guest ffabris Posted November 30, 2016 Posted November 30, 2016 OK, very glad you got it figured out - and you're welcome.
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