crankytoaster Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Hello, I have been using the sexy idle mod (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53396/?) and I noticed in some videos had the hands collide and move the breasts. On the page it says that it supports HDT and breast collision but it is "not included" in the download. There is no tutorial and I would like to know how to get HDT and collisions working on these idle animations.
jap2015 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 I suggest going to the Adult Mod section. There is an entire subsection devoted to HDT. Read all the pinned threads and you will be well on your way to understanding how it works. If you don't care to learn how, just install a complete plug and play mod like "All-in-One Animated Pussy" or one of the many others that are shared here.
davisev5225 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 UUNP Special body from BodySlide. (Make sure to also build the UUNP Special Hands and UUNP Special Feet.)
crankytoaster Posted November 26, 2016 Author Posted November 26, 2016 UUNP Special body from BodySlide. (Make sure to also build the UUNP Special Hands and UUNP Special Feet.) Okay, so the collisions dont work with a CBBE bodyslide preset? I use my own CBBE preset.
crankytoaster Posted November 26, 2016 Author Posted November 26, 2016 I suggest going to the Adult Mod section. There is an entire subsection devoted to HDT. Read all the pinned threads and you will be well on your way to understanding how it works. If you don't care to learn how, just install a complete plug and play mod like "All-in-One Animated Pussy" or one of the many others that are shared here. Okay, so getting collisions to work requires knowledge in the havok engine and HDT right? I am not really the person that is THAT into modding, I think ill stick to the "plug and play" stuff. The most work I have done modding is using Wyre Bash, Merging mods, TES5Merged, and playing around with my bodyslide preset for a couple of hours. Regarding the "All in One Animated Pussy" I tried installing it one time several months ago and when I booted up the game nothing happened. I assume that you have to use his premade bodyslide presets, and you cannot use your own? I really like the one that I have, and there is no real "easy" way to get an HDT vagina, right?
davisev5225 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 UUNP Special body from BodySlide. (Make sure to also build the UUNP Special Hands and UUNP Special Feet.) Okay, so the collisions dont work with a CBBE bodyslide preset? I use my own CBBE preset. No out-of-the-box, no. I'd *HIGHLY* recommend moving away from CBBE and into UUNP. It's a much superior body with many more options than CBBE.
crankytoaster Posted November 26, 2016 Author Posted November 26, 2016 UUNP Special body from BodySlide. (Make sure to also build the UUNP Special Hands and UUNP Special Feet.) Okay, so the collisions dont work with a CBBE bodyslide preset? I use my own CBBE preset. No out-of-the-box, no. I'd *HIGHLY* recommend moving away from CBBE and into UUNP. It's a much superior body with many more options than CBBE. I think it would be a massive pain in the ass to switch to UUNP from CBBE. I have probabily spent around 50 hrs messing with files regarding CBBE. Downloading a ton of armor mods for CBBE, playing with the bodyslide preset, then giving the preset meshes to each of my 100 followers. Plus I like the CBBE fair skin textures and the body in general, I don't find anything bad with it at all. Sorry for the word vomit, but I don't think I'll be switching to UUNP anytime soon. So is there any "relatively" easy way to get colissions to work with cbbe? I'm not good at modding or using any of the tools for making mods. (nifscope, Creation kit)
davisev5225 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 So is there any "relatively" easy way to get colissions to work with cbbe? I'm not good at modding or using any of the tools for making mods. (nifscope, Creation kit) I'm not personally aware of an easy way, but I'm also not all that aware of the current state of CBBE development. Sorry I can't be of any further assistance.
crankytoaster Posted November 26, 2016 Author Posted November 26, 2016 So is there any "relatively" easy way to get colissions to work with cbbe? I'm not good at modding or using any of the tools for making mods. (nifscope, Creation kit) I'm not personally aware of an easy way, but I'm also not all that aware of the current state of CBBE development. Sorry I can't be of any further assistance. It's alright, but thanks for pointing me in the right direction man though.
Torkya Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Erm .. Ive never had any real issue getting collisions to work with that idle animation you just need to build you CBBE body from the one of the HDT variants ... if you have Clams of Skyrim installed you can use that body as a base and their xml included xml files pretty much have all the collisions defined in it for you. The other option is installing the Leyenda body (which is HeroedeLeyenda's which comes with xmls also. Both are based on the CBBE HDT body I think.
jap2015 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 I suggest going to the Adult Mod section. There is an entire subsection devoted to HDT. Read all the pinned threads and you will be well on your way to understanding how it works. If you don't care to learn how, just install a complete plug and play mod like "All-in-One Animated Pussy" or one of the many others that are shared here. Okay, so getting collisions to work requires knowledge in the havok engine and HDT right? I am not really the person that is THAT into modding, I think ill stick to the "plug and play" stuff. The most work I have done modding is using Wyre Bash, Merging mods, TES5Merged, and playing around with my bodyslide preset for a couple of hours. Regarding the "All in One Animated Pussy" I tried installing it one time several months ago and when I booted up the game nothing happened. I assume that you have to use his premade bodyslide presets, and you cannot use your own? I really like the one that I have, and there is no real "easy" way to get an HDT vagina, right? I guess it falls under your definition of "easy". If you understand how to build a body in bodyslide then it is easy. You select the "COS" body (that should come with the mod), then set your sliders or use a preset for your desired shape, check the box "wall", then hit build, run FNIS and that's it, everything else is done for you. Note: version 3.2 did not come with the cos body, later version 3.3 does. I assume 4.0 also will have it. But to get collision, as you asked, and to keep it simple, you only need 2 things: 1. you need any HDT body (older TBBP/BBP bodies arguably work as well) and 2. you need the xml files for HDT installed in Data/SKSE/Plugins folder, and bam, you have collision (No rocket science degree or magic is required). Then comes the hard part of getting them to look right. (You may need that science degree and experience with magic could come in handy here, lol).
crankytoaster Posted November 26, 2016 Author Posted November 26, 2016 I suggest going to the Adult Mod section. There is an entire subsection devoted to HDT. Read all the pinned threads and you will be well on your way to understanding how it works. If you don't care to learn how, just install a complete plug and play mod like "All-in-One Animated Pussy" or one of the many others that are shared here. Okay, so getting collisions to work requires knowledge in the havok engine and HDT right? I am not really the person that is THAT into modding, I think ill stick to the "plug and play" stuff. The most work I have done modding is using Wyre Bash, Merging mods, TES5Merged, and playing around with my bodyslide preset for a couple of hours. Regarding the "All in One Animated Pussy" I tried installing it one time several months ago and when I booted up the game nothing happened. I assume that you have to use his premade bodyslide presets, and you cannot use your own? I really like the one that I have, and there is no real "easy" way to get an HDT vagina, right? I guess it falls under your definition of "easy". If you understand how to build a body in bodyslide then it is easy. You select the "COS" body (that should come with the mod), then set your sliders or use a preset for your desired shape, check the box "wall", then hit build, run FNIS and that's it, everything else is done for you. Note: version 3.2 did not come with the cos body, later version 3.3 does. I assume 4.0 also will have it. But to get collision, as you asked, and to keep it simple, you only need 2 things: 1. you need any HDT body (older TBBP/BBP bodies arguably work as well) and 2. you need the xml files for HDT installed in Data/SKSE/Plugins folder, and bam, you have collision (No rocket science degree or magic is required). Then comes the hard part of getting them to look right. (You may need that science degree and experience with magic could come in handy here, lol). Alright, thanks for the clear instructions man!
jap2015 Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 I suggest going to the Adult Mod section. There is an entire subsection devoted to HDT. Read all the pinned threads and you will be well on your way to understanding how it works. If you don't care to learn how, just install a complete plug and play mod like "All-in-One Animated Pussy" or one of the many others that are shared here. Okay, so getting collisions to work requires knowledge in the havok engine and HDT right? I am not really the person that is THAT into modding, I think ill stick to the "plug and play" stuff. The most work I have done modding is using Wyre Bash, Merging mods, TES5Merged, and playing around with my bodyslide preset for a couple of hours. Regarding the "All in One Animated Pussy" I tried installing it one time several months ago and when I booted up the game nothing happened. I assume that you have to use his premade bodyslide presets, and you cannot use your own? I really like the one that I have, and there is no real "easy" way to get an HDT vagina, right? I guess it falls under your definition of "easy". If you understand how to build a body in bodyslide then it is easy. You select the "COS" body (that should come with the mod), then set your sliders or use a preset for your desired shape, check the box "wall", then hit build, run FNIS and that's it, everything else is done for you. Note: version 3.2 did not come with the cos body, later version 3.3 does. I assume 4.0 also will have it. But to get collision, as you asked, and to keep it simple, you only need 2 things: 1. you need any HDT body (older TBBP/BBP bodies arguably work as well) and 2. you need the xml files for HDT installed in Data/SKSE/Plugins folder, and bam, you have collision (No rocket science degree or magic is required). Then comes the hard part of getting them to look right. (You may need that science degree and experience with magic could come in handy here, lol). Alright, thanks for the clear instructions man! Your welcome and good luck
crankytoaster Posted November 27, 2016 Author Posted November 27, 2016 I suggest going to the Adult Mod section. There is an entire subsection devoted to HDT. Read all the pinned threads and you will be well on your way to understanding how it works. If you don't care to learn how, just install a complete plug and play mod like "All-in-One Animated Pussy" or one of the many others that are shared here. Okay, so getting collisions to work requires knowledge in the havok engine and HDT right? I am not really the person that is THAT into modding, I think ill stick to the "plug and play" stuff. The most work I have done modding is using Wyre Bash, Merging mods, TES5Merged, and playing around with my bodyslide preset for a couple of hours. Regarding the "All in One Animated Pussy" I tried installing it one time several months ago and when I booted up the game nothing happened. I assume that you have to use his premade bodyslide presets, and you cannot use your own? I really like the one that I have, and there is no real "easy" way to get an HDT vagina, right? I guess it falls under your definition of "easy". If you understand how to build a body in bodyslide then it is easy. You select the "COS" body (that should come with the mod), then set your sliders or use a preset for your desired shape, check the box "wall", then hit build, run FNIS and that's it, everything else is done for you. Note: version 3.2 did not come with the cos body, later version 3.3 does. I assume 4.0 also will have it. But to get collision, as you asked, and to keep it simple, you only need 2 things: 1. you need any HDT body (older TBBP/BBP bodies arguably work as well) and 2. you need the xml files for HDT installed in Data/SKSE/Plugins folder, and bam, you have collision (No rocket science degree or magic is required). Then comes the hard part of getting them to look right. (You may need that science degree and experience with magic could come in handy here, lol). Alright, thanks for the clear instructions man! Your welcome and good luck I got the HDT vagina working, however I ran into some problems. The color of the vagina is white, and it is very different to the rest of the body's skin color. Is there any way to match the vagina color with the skin texture? (I use fair skin complexion) Also the vagina placement is not in the right place. It is too far down the groin area, some of the default CBBE vaginal slit is showing. When I looked in the bodyslide for COS it did not give a slider to move the vagina location. I am wondering if this is caused by my body preset or it is intentional. I have also gotten breast collisions to work, I think an error occured because I did not run FNIS when I recently tested. The error was my characters hands went through the breasts, however the breasts did move. Also, on a side note. Which HDT bounce xml do you guys use? I picked the 3rd option in the COS installer. It was called "excessive" bouncy, I am not too happy with it. After moving, the breasts move in a jagged manner which looks weird. I would like to switch to another xml that is on the more bouncy side, with bounce that looks non-jagged. I was previously using the loremongerer and standard xml from the HDT breast physics page on the nexus. It would be greatly appreciated if you guys could share your HDT xml presets. I can provide screenshots if it would help.
crankytoaster Posted November 27, 2016 Author Posted November 27, 2016 Also when I tried the sex with a dildo with collisions the vagina did not move at all. I only have sex with my female followers and I have installed a SOS and collision dildo mod. Is the HDT vagina sopposed to only work with males? Also the HDT vagina should show up in armors that don't fully cover the groin area ie. bikini/thongs and skimpy armors?
jap2015 Posted November 27, 2016 Posted November 27, 2016 1. The texture looks like it needs texblended, So I would guess that you added Fair Skin textures that is overwriting the ones provided by All in One.2. Location, not sure if can help, maybe try the groin slider in B/S or maybe when you fix the textures, it will help.3. Keep in mind collision is NOT an animation and not effected by FNIS per se. The hands through the tits thing has to do with body weighting and interactions set by the xmls. This is why I suggested reading up about it earlier, rather than having to write something already written. Your options are smaller tits, or larger/smaller hands. There are a butt load of different xmls inside All in One you can swap out manually to try. If your still not happy, search for others that made xmls for larger breast like Minou.4.Bounce. Just reinstall the mod to use different settings at the Fomod installer. Hero has written different xml's for each setup so experiment to find the one you like. Also there is a tool called 'just for fun" that you can edit xmls to perfectly fit your personal setup 5. Objects are not set up for collision. It can be done but hasn't yet. 6. That would only work if the armor was an overlay, like a tattoo. (Keep in mind that I'm not a pro and just trying to help, I could be wrong on this or any other thing I stated earlier).
crankytoaster Posted November 27, 2016 Author Posted November 27, 2016 I tried to use texblend to change the vagina textures but there was no clear tutorial online. By the looks of it, texblend seems to just fix the neck gap. For the HDT xml I think I'll use Minou's xml. Does that effect the hand clipping in sexy idle animation? Will changing the HDT xml stop the hands going through the breast? Also when the vagina came into contact with the dildo the vagina did not change shape. My hunch is that the vagina placement is too far down for colissions to work. Moving the groin slider did not move the HDT vagina along the groin area, I am not sure how to get the proper alignment working for the vagina.
jap2015 Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 My point was only use the textures from All in One, and don't install another texture pack. It may or may not. If you use his exact body, shape, skeleton and xmls I would say yes, but if you change the size of the breast, then no. The xml would have to be rewritten to compensate for the different weight of the breast. (This is why I said collision is easy, making it look right is hard). Bottom line if you want perfection, learn weight painting a nif, learn HDT, learn how to edit xml files, or learn to except a body shape you may not like. Or maybe you'll get lucky and find someone else's xml works close to what you want. Your dildo is probably not an HDT object or it cannot find the needed xml file directed by its nif. So you will not see a change. An HDT object only interacts with another HDT object. You can open up the dildo nif and see if collision has been added and verify the location of the xml file path is correct. Note: All in One already adds collision to SOS, so adding another mod can be problematic and require some editing to be compatible. Sorry, I can't help with the location thing but guessing that can only be done by editing the body in and outside program like 3DMax.
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