DeltaD36 Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 So I've been using an array of Lovers mods from this website, and they are absolutely great! ^^ However when I installed HentaiMania 2, the scripts work and function but animations do not work (Only for the NPC's associated with HentaiMania 2). The majority of the NPC's in this mod are normal looking Female NPC's that look pretty normal to the female NPC's outside of the mod, so it is wierd this woulden't work. But I can understand for the custom made NPC enemies and such do not work. Maybe it's just my Load Order, but I keep LoversIdleAnimsPRiority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp at the bottom of my Load Order at all times. Though it could still be the issue. I'd like to enjoy a Mod filled with women with the great Lovers mods still working. I guess what I' asking is if there is there, or could there be, a possible plugin for HentaiMania 2 to be compatible with Lovers mod plugins? Any information would be appreciated! ^^
gregathit Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 So I've been using an array of Lovers mods from this website' date=' and they are absolutely great! ^^ However when I installed HentaiMania 2, the scripts work and function but animations do not work (Only for the NPC's associated with HentaiMania 2). The majority of the NPC's in this mod are normal looking Female NPC's that look pretty normal to the female NPC's outside of the mod, so it is wierd this woulden't work. But I can understand for the custom made NPC enemies and such do not work. Maybe it's just my Load Order, but I keep LoversIdleAnimsPRiority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp at the bottom of my Load Order at all times. Though it could still be the issue. I'd like to enjoy a Mod filled with women with the great Lovers mods still working. I guess what I' asking is if there is there, or could there be, a possible plugin for HentaiMania 2 to be compatible with Lovers mod plugins? Any information would be appreciated! ^^ [/quote'] Lovers will work with HM2. It is load order sensitive however. ALL lovers plugins need to be below HM2. The creatures however do not work as I think they use custom skeletons or some such. The original Hentai Mania however works MUCH smoother with lovers. HM2 had a bunch of custom animations and scripts that at times clash with lovers and other mods, but HM1 does not have these hang ups. If you can't get things to work feel free to post your load order and someone will try to give you pointers if you are determined to use HM2.
DeltaD36 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 Thank you. I shall try it out. Off the topic, I have no Godly idea where to even start the quest, if there even is one, for Hentai Mania 1. >> I also have no idea how to even get my load order, unless I'm supposed to type them all down. xD If there is a simpler way, I'd love a resource. ^^ Edit: Hmm... putting everything below it didn't really help. They still just stand there doing nothing. Perhaps a load order post would help, but how do I do that? I'm going to assume it's in the directions in a thread i should have read before i started posting, but it's never to late to learn it. >_<
gregathit Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Thank you. I shall try it out. Off the topic' date=' I have no Godly idea where to even start the quest, if there even is one, for Hentai Mania 1. >> I also have no idea how to even get my load order, unless I'm supposed to type them all down. xD If there is a simpler way, I'd love a resource. ^^ Edit: Hmm... putting everything below it didn't really help. They still just stand there doing nothing. Perhaps a load order post would help, but how do I do that? I'm going to assume it's in the directions in a thread i should have read before i started posting, but it's never to late to learn it. >_< [/quote'] http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 Ask and you shall receive. The above link will show you how to get your load order and has a sample of how you lovers load order should be.
DeltaD36 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 Ah, alright. Here we go. Get a load of this fuster cluck of a load order. My Load Order: Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm CM Partners.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm BUDungeon.esm LoversCreature.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Hentai Mania.esp HentaiMania2.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp personality_idles2.esp StandingJOJO.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp bondage_sex.esp Eroblivion.esp BasicInstinct.esp CTAddPose_v_1.esp CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp actors_in_charge.esp 77_Umpa_Animation.esp Sexdarkness.esp EFGAddPose.esp shinyEmotions.esp Slof's Sexy Anims.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp CM Partners.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp Chocolate Elves.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp cmChocolates.esp CM Partner Fiona.esp Ren_Soya_KD's.esp UnderdarkMap.esp Specialanims.esp Gizmodian - Shell of the Artifice.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Colourwheels Sexy Pym Companion.esp Neo's LandCH.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversSurrender.esp LoversBed.esp LoversLight.esp DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp SWalk.esp LoversProstitute.esp SW01.esp LoversCrowningIsle.esp BUDequipment.esp zzEstrus.esp BUDungeonAppend.esp BUDungeonCore.esp BUDSercen.esp BUDequipmentNA.esp Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp Hentai_Hana_Dress.esp LoversHooker.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp LoversJoburg.esp Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp HM2SummonCompatible.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Yea, that load order is a real POS. That link I posted and you need to get acquainted. After you fix your load order you need do the following: 1. Mods to disable: Eroblivion.esp, BasicInstinct.esp, Sexdarkness.esp - these are sex mods that have competing scripts with lovers. 2. "other" mods to move: A. The BU dungeon esp files need to be above your lovers esp files. B. All other files (like HM2SummonCompatible.esp, Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp, Hentai_Hana_Dress.esp and the like) need to be above the BU dungeon files. Again start a new game to test after making your adjustments. If you still have problems with a new game then post your revised load order and we can tweak it from there.
DeltaD36 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 Well, here's what the load order looks like now. Oblivion.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm CM Partners.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm BUDungeon.esm LoversCreature.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Hentai Mania.esp HentaiMania2.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp Hentai_Hana_Dress.esp Colourwheels Sexy Pym Companion.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp Knights.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Gizmodian - Shell of the Artifice.esp CM Partners.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Partner Fiona.esp cmChocolates.esp Colourwheels Sexy Stock Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp Chocolate Elves.esp Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Ren_Soya_KD's.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full + Soya's hair.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp UnderdarkMap.esp DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp SW01.esp SWalk.esp actors_in_charge.esp Neo's LandCH.esp EFGAddPose.esp CTAddPose_v_1.esp shinyEmotions.esp HM2SummonCompatible.esp CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp personality_idles2.esp Sexdarkness.esp BUDungeonCore.esp BUDungeonAppend.esp BUDSercen.esp BUDequipment.esp BUDequipmentNA.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversFSE.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversSurrender.esp LoversBed.esp LoversLight.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversCrowningIsle.esp zzEstrus.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp LoversJoburg.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversBiko.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp I've noticed something about the female NPC's in Hentai Mania. They are all very stiff; Standing straight up. Arms are a bit wide to the sides. Almost 'civilian' but not exactly. This is the position they continue to stay in during Lovers scripts - becoming nude but nothing other than that. I'm going to assume a Idle animation mod is interferring, though I wouldn't know which. Sample pic: Can't see it from this angle, but the back is arced to a rather painful degree. Notice: I've used this Mod before on my... umm, notsolegal version of Oblivion and I had Sexlivion on during the mod(Not SexDarkness). The Animations being used with Sexlivion worked just fine with this mod. Just thought I'd throw that out their for information purposes.
gregathit Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 DeltaD36, Did you really look at the load order in the link I gave you....? http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 The bottom of you load order should be LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp The rest of the lovers files are out of order too! They will NOT work if they are not in the right order. zzEstrus.esp should be up above your BU dungeon esp files. ALSO - DISABLE Sexdarkness.esp - It conflicts with lovers so you can't run both it and lovers together. Sorry to ride your butt, but if you want to get this working you really have to pay attention to details. This is the deep end of the pool when it comes to mods, so one or two things out of place can throw the whole thing out of whack! At to HM2 - yea there could be some idles gumming up the works but let's deal with these other variables first so we can just be trying to fix one thing instead of a bunch at one time... Once you have fixed things, start a new game again to test and then holler back with the results and include your revised load order if there are problems. Thanks, Greg
DeltaD36 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 Everything IS already working! >_< It's just that the HentaiMania 2 models don't do what they are supposed to! And I DO have SexDarkness uninstalled. >> It's just disabled form the DataFiles menu and doesn't show up in Spells. But alright. I'll do it. Not everything I have is on that list, so that confuses me. :/ These are just all the things they have. The things that need to be turned off are off, it's just showing up on here. FUUUU~ I'll try again. And it's fine. xD People correcting me is usually what I need.
GMac2021 Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Regardless of load order (I'm going off on a diffeent tangent here...) HM1 works (and has always worked) fine with my last four re-installs. No BBB for the sexy loot, but worth the exploration time. A finely realized mod, IMHO. HM2 caused me nothing but grief. I even disabled sex with HM2 NPCs in my Lover's settings, but that wasn't the only problem I had. HM2 never really worked for me whether I had Lover's activated or not. The first time I realized that there might be a problem was when the big Minotaur Boss kept chasing me inside the building (I do not know which building he's outside of - sorry - its been awhile ) and he got stuck. He just stood there and I smacked him until he died. Well, I smacked his ankles, because his head was about three stories above me... The custom textures of HM2 slowed my crappy computer down to a crawl, so I just re-installed Oblivion and started from scratch without it. I'm actually very wary of OMODs now - they do not always acurately list conflicts with the meshes and textures that they're going to overwrite. Take this post with a grain of salt, btw. If you have a crappy computer that's five years old - HM2 is going to kill it. HM1 will - for the most part - work fine.
DeltaD36 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 Regardless of load order (I'm going off on a diffeent tangent here...) HM1 works (and has always worked) fine with my last four re-installs. No BBB for the sexy loot' date=' but worth the exploration time. A finely realized mod, IMHO. HM2 caused me nothing but grief. I even disabled sex with HM2 NPCs in my Lover's settings, but that wasn't the only problem I had. HM2 never really worked for me whether I had Lover's activated or not. The first time I realized that there might be a problem was when the big Minotaur Boss kept chasing me inside the building (I do not know which building he's outside of - sorry - its been awhile ) and he got stuck. He just stood there and I smacked him until he died. Well, I smacked his ankles, because his head was about three stories above me... The custom textures of HM2 slowed my crappy computer down to a crawl, so I just re-installed Oblivion and started from scratch without it. I'm actually very wary of OMODs now - they do not always acurately list conflicts with the meshes and textures that they're going to overwrite. Take this post with a grain of salt, btw. If you have a crappy computer that's five years old - HM2 is going to kill it. HM1 will - for the most part - work fine. [/quote'] Strange. o_o Even on my old POS laptop HM2 worked fine. Ironically enough I NEVER had Hentai Mania 1. And Sexlivion worked almost flawlessly on the Female NPCs. Maybe it's HM1? >> Regardless, I suppose it varys on what is currently active. Though I'd think that since the vast majority of the female NPC's are literally the NPCs from HM1, but with diffrent outfits.
gregathit Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 DeltaD36, if everything other than HM2 is working well then we can start fussing with it. It will take me a bit to remember what all was needed to get it working. I had to play with settings and whatnot myself to get it to function. HM2 is the real problem with its custom idles and I think it also has custom skeletons as well. The only specific thing I do remember is that it was a pain in the ass to figure out. HM1 - works flawlessly with lovers right out of the gate. The only issue you may run into is the "no greeting" menu if you try to make them your rape slave. Slaving them is not really a good idea anyway since many are set to respawn. I probably won't get back to you today as I will have to do some digging on how I managed to get HM2 girls working with lovers. I won't forget about you so don't worry!!! Oh, like I said I was not trying to pick on you ... rather just make you aware that the slightest mistake can bring down the house of cards. Something I am sure you already learned installing BU dungeon! I assumed that the load order you had posted was what you had active. If you use OBMM to get your load order it will only show those mods that are active. I think wrye has that feature too but I only really use wrye for my bashed patches....yea I am kinda old school that way...
DeltaD36 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 I appreciate the time you are taking to look into this. Truly, many other forums could take note of what it means to be a Moderator/Admin/Supporter! (Not sure which one your are, I just got here. xD)
gregathit Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 I appreciate the time you are taking to look into this. Truly' date=' many other forums could take note of what it means to be a Moderator/Admin/Supporter! (Not sure which one your are, I just got here. xD) [/quote'] Just a lowly moderator is all I am..... I will try to holler sometime tomorrow with some possible solutions.
DeltaD36 Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 I shall wait with great anticipation. ^^ The next day: Did you find out anything?
Justinof Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I have both HM1 and HM2 installed, and they work flawlessly whit Lovers mods. There is something different though, i run them patched whit Sensual walks, and those patches are merged in the bashed patch. Since the bashed patch is one of the lowest mods loaded, it overrides any custom idle animation that could break the Lovers animations. I suppose your problem is an idle animation that interfere, try to move HM2 lower in your load order, and/or use sensual walks as i do.
DeltaD36 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Posted June 13, 2012 I have both HM1 and HM2 installed' date=' and they work flawlessly whit Lovers mods. There is something different though, i run them patched whit Sensual walks, and those patches are merged in the bashed patch. Since the bashed patch is one of the lowest mods loaded, it overrides any custom idle animation that could break the Lovers animations. I suppose your problem is an idle animation that interfere, try to move HM2 lower in your load order, and/or use sensual walks as i do. [/quote'] Wierd! Do you happen to have a picture of one of the females as idle? And if possiblem would you mind showing me your load order? :/ It might help us get to the bottom of this faster. I'm not a fan of using Omod... but the HentaiMania Omod is currently black, but the mod itself is intact. (Though obviously not correctly) Should I take the risk it says might cause serious problems to my game and override current .esps?
gregathit Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I have both HM1 and HM2 installed' date=' and they work flawlessly whit Lovers mods. There is something different though, i run them patched whit Sensual walks, and those patches are merged in the bashed patch. Since the bashed patch is one of the lowest mods loaded, it overrides any custom idle animation that could break the Lovers animations. I suppose your problem is an idle animation that interfere, try to move HM2 lower in your load order, and/or use sensual walks as i do. [/quote'] Wierd! Do you happen to have a picture of one of the females as idle? And if possiblem would you mind showing me your load order? :/ It might help us get to the bottom of this faster. I'm not a fan of using Omod... but the HentaiMania Omod is currently black, but the mod itself is intact. (Though obviously not correctly) Should I take the risk it says might cause serious problems to my game and override current .esps? Delta36, Justinof might be on to something here. I too use a sensual walks mod (always have) so this might have been part of the solution. Omod's are just fancy compressed files. Using OBMM you can extract the Omod to a temporary folder and see for yourself what it may overwrite. I would do this rather than blindly just overwriting things because with OBMM if you overwrote something the it is gone. Wrye has a role back feature with bain that you can recover what has been overwritten. The sensual walks mod I use is this one: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28223 You will end up merging all of them except the Xeo one into your bashed patch. I will holler later with any other things I found to get lovers and HM2 working.
DeltaD36 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Posted June 13, 2012 I did it! The arch in the back that the Female NPC's have? It's a apprently a 'Boob' glitch. And there is a fix for it on the HENTAIMANIA2 mod page here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/34179 So.... it was never the animations to begin with, nor does it have to do anything with the Sensual walk mod. It was JUST the boob glitch. For me it was anyways. >> Now female NPC in HentaiMania will in engage in the sexual animations cuased by lovers and SexDarkness alike. ^^ Now everyone in the SkySilver temple are fucking like crazy. xD
Justinof Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 Nice, problem solved, and whit the less pain Now, if only i could start the HM2 quest on my part, for *&££@""^$ sake!
gregathit Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 I did it! The arch in the back that the Female NPC's have? It's a apprently a 'Boob' glitch. And there is a fix for it on the HENTAIMANIA2 mod page here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/34179 So.... it was never the animations to begin with' date=' nor does it have to do anything with the Sensual walk mod. It was JUST the boob glitch. For me it was anyways. >> Now female NPC in HentaiMania will in engage in the sexual animations cuased by lovers and SexDarkness alike. ^^ Now everyone in the SkySilver temple are fucking like crazy. xD [/quote'] Excellent! It is always the simple things ain't it!!! Have fun....uhmmm.....errr.....doing....you know...... :D:D:D
DeltaD36 Posted June 14, 2012 Author Posted June 14, 2012 In deed. Perhaps you can get yours to work now.
gregathit Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 In deed. Perhaps you can get yours to work now. Well I had it working a long time ago. However I ditched it as it conflicted with some of the mods I felt I could not live without... Hentai Mania 1 added enough girls and dungeons for me to get my fix. Cheers, Greg
DeltaD36 Posted June 14, 2012 Author Posted June 14, 2012 Nice' date=' problem solved, and whit the less pain Now, if only i could start the HM2 quest on my part, for *&££@""^$ sake! [/quote'] Well why can't you? :/ It's North of Leyawin. Look for the Icon of a tent. If you have already found her and you just CAN'T start it... you might be able to dig up a command to start it. If all else fails, just uninstall it, or reinstall it MANUALLY aand overwrite the current files. That should make you rastart the entire thing.
digiz Posted June 14, 2012 Posted June 14, 2012 Had similar problem, will try this boob patch (tought I had it installed). Thou I didn't use sex in HM2, everyone in sky temple looks the same, and since the NPCS in dungeons respawn(if its same as HM1) then I can't use them as slaves.
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