Crushed Breast Issue

[UnCui]

So lately I've noticed I got the "Crushed Breast" issue appearing from time to time, the good thing is, it will dissapear on its own when the body is moving, but sometimes the breasts remain stuck longer, and the only thing that seems to fix it, is to close the game and reload the save... I'm not sure what exactly triggers it, but it's quite annoying, I've tried to pinpoint the problem but could not find what exactly is responsible for this.

 

It also seems this issue is more likely to appear in time, the more I'm playing the game.

 

I'm using All-in-One HDT Animated pussy UUNP body, I also have XMPSE up to date and all the requirements.

 

Also worth noticing, this problem just suddently came up without messing with the mods or anything.

[Swiftstep]

Not sure what a "crushed breast" is (screenshots?), but it sounds like a HDT-related issue. Did you:

 

-> try to reset havok via save cleaner

-> have a conflict in some HDT mods? Hands and boobs are both HDT enabled by AiO HDT vagina, so if the hand (idle animation) causes problems, it might be a conflict between those files

-> check the log files for error reports?

-> try with a new game, if the problem persists?

 

Best to check the logs and load them up (spoiler), try to use the save cleaner. My humble opinion, of course.

[UnCui]

Not sure what a "crushed breast" is (screenshots?), but it sounds like a HDT-related issue. Did you:

 

-> try to reset havok via save cleaner

-> have a conflict in some HDT mods? Hands and boobs are both HDT enabled by AiO HDT vagina, so if the hand (idle animation) causes problems, it might be a conflict between those files

-> check the log files for error reports?

-> try with a new game, if the problem persists?

 

Best to check the logs and load them up (spoiler), try to use the save cleaner. My humble opinion, of course.

 

When it happens again Ill take a screenshot, basically..it looks just as it sounds, the breast (either left one or the right one) gets crushed and remains stuck in that position until a movement resets it back to normal (does not always reset)

 

And yes, I did once try the reset havok option from save cleaner (when it seemed the problem just wouldn't go away, and I was pleasantly surprised to see the problem was no more...only to re-appear again after a few hours.

[echotest123]

Did you build a body with bodyslide? You need to use UUNP Special if you do, that's what caused this for me on my last installation. If you didn't build a body you might give it a try, could help... and: did you start a new game after installing those mods (I've got most of my past problems from NOT doing that; texturereplacers don't count, it's basically everything which affects your loadorder OR HDT)?

[Swiftstep]

 

When it happens again Ill take a screenshot, basically..it looks just as it sounds, the breast (either left one or the right one) gets crushed and remains stuck in that position until a movement resets it back to normal (does not always reset)

 

And yes, I did once try the reset havok option from save cleaner (when it seemed the problem just wouldn't go away, and I was pleasantly surprised to see the problem was no more...only to re-appear again after a few hours.

 

 

Check the logs for errors, make sure, nothing overwrites the HDT files from AiO HDT vagina. You got MO for your mods, or are you a nexus user? Not sure how that handles HDT, just in case it should be the fact.

Remember to think in small steps: when does the problem occur, where did it happen, what might have caused it. In your case, it sounds like a setup error with HDT, or the HDT mods conflict with something else.

[UnCui]

Did you build a body with bodyslide? You need to use UUNP Special if you do, that's what caused this for me on my last installation. If you didn't build a body you might give it a try, could help... and: did you start a new game after installing those mods (I've got most of my past problems from NOT doing that; texturereplacers don't count, it's basically everything which affects your loadorder OR HDT)?

I did not build any body with bodyslide, I just used one of the pre-build uunp ones from the installer, in my case, Jennifer.

 

About new game, I have a rule of always starting a fresh game without any mods, except for the USLEEP SKY UI, and a few others I deem safe to use, I only start adding mods at a safe place in-game, which I deem Ok to come back to, in case a mod screws up really bad my save....

 

 

 

When it happens again Ill take a screenshot, basically..it looks just as it sounds, the breast (either left one or the right one) gets crushed and remains stuck in that position until a movement resets it back to normal (does not always reset)

 

And yes, I did once try the reset havok option from save cleaner (when it seemed the problem just wouldn't go away, and I was pleasantly surprised to see the problem was no more...only to re-appear again after a few hours.

 

 

Check the logs for errors, make sure, nothing overwrites the HDT files from AiO HDT vagina. You got MO for your mods, or are you a nexus user? Not sure how that handles HDT, just in case it should be the fact.

Remember to think in small steps: when does the problem occur, where did it happen, what might have caused it. In your case, it sounds like a setup error with HDT, or the HDT mods conflict with something else.

 

I'm not sure exactly which logs do you mean...do you mean papyrus logs? if that is the case, I've stopped using papyrus logs for a few reasons, Number 1 reason is that, if you keep the papyrus tracker on, it can slow your game, and potentially CTD (depending on your machine), the other reason is...papyrus logs really don't help much, because more often than not, it won't help diagnose the problem...at least that's what I know when I read on the subject.

 

As for mod manager, I'm Using MO (and in my opinion, it's the best mod managing tool ever) and no, AiO is not overwritten by anything...at least that's what MO says..

 

Good thing is, so far, I have yet to bump into this problem again...I'm beginning to think the havok thingy might be to blame, clearly, using the save cleaner's havok reset tool really helped.

[Kelthos]

99% of the time this is a skeleton issue.

 

make sure your load order is correct, follow this:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended-xpmse/

[nitrobum]

do you have a hdt hair mod?.....if so......

[Swiftstep]

 

I'm not sure exactly which logs do you mean...

 

Check your mod folder for any *.log files. You should find the hdtPhysicsExtensions.log somewhere. SInce you use MO, you would have moved it from the overwrite to a subsection. HDT errors are listet there.

 

Besides that, the other ideas are very helpful, too.

 

[UnCui]

99% of the time this is a skeleton issue.

 

make sure your load order is correct, follow this:

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended-xpmse/

 

My load order is sorted by loot, and other than that, I also read up on mod's compatibility and load order so as to make sure no issues appear, pretty sure I don't have a problem there.

 

I would've been happy if the issue was skeleton related...could've been easily fixed, but I'm afraid it's not the case,  had it been skeleton related, it would've done other crazier stuff.

do you have a hdt hair mod?.....if so......

 

I actually use HDT hair, and now that you mentioned it, I had a similar problem as this one (a bit worse) some time ago, before installing AIO (had another body mod back then, did not use AIO), I had KS Hairdo's, fortunately, he released a fix on the nexus and it worked, I also tried the patch this time around but...it didn't do anything, to be fair, it is a bit different, from how it was the first time I got this problem , (much worse, the breasts were stuck indefinetly).

 

Now I'm also using KS Hairdo's which comes packed with AIO, could this be the problem?

 

 

I'm not sure exactly which logs do you mean...

 

Check your mod folder for any *.log files. You should find the hdtPhysicsExtensions.log somewhere. SInce you use MO, you would have moved it from the overwrite to a subsection. HDT errors are listet there.

 

Besides that, the other ideas are very helpful, too.

 

 

Oh that's pretty cool, didn't know about the hdtPhysicsExtensions.log, checked it out and there are no errors listed, couple of "Physics system loaded" , "Add character", "Cell changed"  and "X no longer in cell, release it" lines are there.

hdtPhysicsExtensions.log

[echotest123]

 

Did you build a body with bodyslide? You need to use UUNP Special if you do, that's what caused this for me on my last installation. If you didn't build a body you might give it a try, could help... and: did you start a new game after installing those mods (I've got most of my past problems from NOT doing that; texturereplacers don't count, it's basically everything which affects your loadorder OR HDT)?

I did not build any body with bodyslide, I just used one of the pre-build uunp ones from the installer, in my case, Jennifer.

 

About new game, I have a rule of always starting a fresh game without any mods, except for the USLEEP SKY UI, and a few others I deem safe to use, I only start adding mods at a safe place in-game, which I deem Ok to come back to, in case a mod screws up really bad my save....

 

Well... 'normal' modding practice would be to make sure you installed all the mods you want (checking every now and then if your game is able to start and run) and start a completely new gme after you've set up your mods (without MCM options, those after the new game).

This usually helps to avoid problems with your savegame which may occur after adding mods to a playthrough that started without them. Admittedly, those are far less likely to occur than bugs caused by removing mods, but they can happen.

[Swiftstep]

If the problem persists, and you can't figure out what's causing it (besides the hints you already received), you might consider to let this topic be moved into the tech support sub-section. The guys with tons of experience (and some of the creators of those above mentioned mods) are more likely to reply when the topic is in the "correct" section of the forum.