Disappearing water

[Fienyx]

Not sure if anyone else has ever had something like this happen, but when I use any kind of water improvement that relies on OBSE (ie; OBGE Liquid water, OR) and I fly in first person, the water under me disappears. This only happens when flying in 1st person, ifI switch to 3rd, the water is fine. When I come closer, the water fills in. For instance, near Lake Rumare, high in the air in 1st person, no water except the far plane water. I fly down still in 1st, and the lake looks like it's filling up. Not a sudden "pop it's there", but filling up from the center out.

 

If I use a non OBSE water (Enhanced Water, Better Water, Advanced Water Modification <-- the one I now use), it does not have this issue.

Of course, the best of the non OBSE doesn't really compare to an OBSE based one up close.

 

Is there a fix? I searched around, but I don't think there's enough fliers our there.

 

 

 

this is what OBSE water does.

[varenne]

Reads like a LOD related issue. I'd first check all OBLIVION.INI settings, followed by all OBGE INI settings. It may also be OBGE version related too. Oblivion Reloaded - OBGE v4 by Alenet - Timeslip - Scanti - ShadeMe - Ethatron is potentially a big improvement over prior versions, but I have yet to do an upgrade. (That page also has some oblivion.ini settings but are for that version, your preferred settings may be different. Check your OBGE version docs.)

 

The only time thus far where I experience something even remotely similar, is if I create a save near water. When I log in using that save it takes a couple/few seconds to load the water; where water should be is empty. But my water load is all at once, not gradual, which is why I'm going with LOD related settings for your experience.

 

 

[Fienyx]

The pic is actually the latest OR. When I saw it happening with OBGE Liquid Water, I was hoping OR would be improved enough to do do it. I had gone over all the settings. I just think it's really odd that it happens only in first person, and only with OBGE-LW or when using OR's water when I'm flying high. I can turn off OR's water and not have the water disappearing in 1st person issue. If I don't fly very above a certain height it stays, although, it doesn't take much height at all for the edges of a body of water to start to disappear. Kind of looks like the water is draining down the deepest areas. Yes, the deepest areas show up first. It's way different than the "water loads late" thing. I know how that one goes, and that's just at the beginning. As far as LOD, I think that would affect both 1st and 3rd person.

 

[varenne]

I don't have a flying capable PC, else I could test this better; Midas flying related spells are primitive & terrible for this. I looked at whipping something up from Cursed Armor but RL intervened.

 

Are you using any type of Camera altering MODs? That too has been a past issue for me.

[fejeena]

Best fly Mod VipCxj_AirSystem.

You can also fly  in interior cells, not through walls ( has collision check. No tcl cheat fly )

 

And disappearing water I had once with far sight. But the whole water was missing. "Near" the player all water was fine but very far away I had "empty rivers"

 

[Fienyx]

just enhanced camera. Tried OR camera mode once, had too many issues with the mod list I use (OR camera does not play well with LAPF 1st person view).

I really wish I could get just the Dof, Godrays, and wetworld effects from OR. That's all I ever had turned on for actual game play with OR. Everything else OR offers would conflict with  anything I use. Even the inventory menu. I use wz_Inventory and the container/magic menu add on, but OR adds an xml that give the information like display stats, which I already use, but the xml is for regular menu, not the classic boxes style wz offers. Would have liked to try the dual wield, as you get to actually attack with the off-hand weapon, but you can't hotkey an off hand, nor can you switch it in game mode. I hot key everything and avoid menus and inventory whenever possible.

 

As is, I use OBGEv3 with crisis_DoF, godrays and the support esp. Had too many problems with the "masterControl" thing for OBGE 3.1.    I also use Screen Effects and the water mod mentioned above.

[Fienyx]

I used a modified version of airfight for a while, but whenever I shot arrows at people right below me, the could duck every single one. Didn't really like using the NPC flight mode, already have enough script heavy mods. That's actually what causes most of my fps loss, all the scripts to make the world more real. Just really enjoy flying and I remember seeing these dragon races when I first got into finding mods. Didn't work so well then. Now I was able to make some adjustments to the flight script, and it's working pretty nice. No hovering. Kind of never liked that part of the air fight. Granted, I can't swing a sword or shoot a bow while flying, but I can dive bomb people, send them tumbling, run up and (with the proper combat mod), stab my sword through their chest. Or rob them, or rape them. Whatever....... 

[varenne]

I dumped anything enhance camera related as it proved too wonky with my current MODs and config. (most especially going back and forth to 1st and 3rd person view.)

 

I'll leave it there for now as it's Friday (actually Saturday) I've had way too many shots of Irish and beers for any of this to matter...