Molevalence Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 Apologies if this sounds unprofessional I am just quite enraged right now with my game. On another technical support topic I made about Skyrim CTD when playing a wood elf, it has now begun to occur with EVERY race regardless of gender. It starts out fine everything loads up like normal and then I begin in the Alternate Start prison. I wait a few minutes for all the mods to register into the game and then I begin to modify them one by one. What's really getting on my nerves is that this takes upwards to 20 minutes to a half hour to tweak with each character I make. I have tried this with Nord, Imperial, Dark Elf and Wood Elf. I save the game as a primary hub to load future saves and pick a alternate start. It loads in and once everything is said and done I save again. I come back to each save and they all crash. i have checked load orders, incompatibilities, Loot, run FNIS, everything I can think of and to the best of my knowledge and nothing works. Now that it;s occurring with every race I have to wonder what is causing this issue. I will post a load order of what mods I use. I hope to have this issue resolved as of now I simply cannot play the game period. I don't want to do anything that I don't understand since that may worsen the situation and humbly await a result with someone who has better knowledge when it comes to these situations. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 3 3 Dawnguard.esm 4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 5 5 HearthFires.esm 6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 7 7 Dragonborn.esm 8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 9 9 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 10 a SharedSeranaDialogue.esm 11 b SexLab.esm 12 c SexLabAroused.esm 13 d Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 14 e Nock2Tip.esm 15 f Devious Devices - Assets.esm 16 10 hdtHighHeel.esm 17 11 RaceCompatibility.esm 18 12 RSkyrimChildren.esm 19 13 OblivionHairPackAIO.esm 20 14 CreatureFramework.esm 21 15 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 22 16 MiasLair.esp 23 17 Campfire.esm 24 18 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 25 19 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 27 1b daymoyl.esm 28 1c ApachiiHair.esm 29 1d Heels Sound.esm 30 1e BeeingFemale.esm 31 1f HighResTexturePack01.esp 32 20 HighResTexturePack02.esp 33 21 HighResTexturePack03.esp 34 22 FNIS.esp 35 23 SkyUI.esp 36 24 AMatterOfTime.esp 37 25 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 38 26 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 39 27 Nuska Warpaint.esp 40 28 KS Hairdo's.esp 41 29 RaceMenu.esp 42 2a RaceMenuPlugin.esp 43 2b RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp 44 2c Realistic Teeth Dawnguard Serana Vampire Fix.esp 45 2d HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp 46 2e DialogueTweaks.esp 47 2f EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 48 30 RealisticRoomRental.esp 49 31 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 50 32 SkyRe_Main.esp 51 33 Archery Perks Overhaul.esp 52 34 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp 53 35 Brows.esp 54 36 SGEyebrows.esp 55 37 PubicMeshColor.esp 56 38 DW.esp 57 39 RaceMenuFreckleOverlays.esp 58 3a UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp 59 3b 3DNPC.esp 60 3c RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 61 3d RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp 62 3e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 63 3f SexLab_Solutions.esp 64 40 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 65 41 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 66 42 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 67 43 The Hunting Game - TheGreyLight.esp 68 44 SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp 69 45 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 70 46 RND_USKP-Patch.esp 71 47 Newhairpack.esp 72 48 FreckleMania.esp 73 49 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 74 4a Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 75 4b SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 76 4c Pureweather.esp 77 4d dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 78 4e dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp 79 4f RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.esp 80 50 [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp 81 51 TrueEyes.esp 82 52 numenume femalebrows MARO.esp 83 53 Eyes of Aber.esp 84 54 SD Cages.esp 85 55 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 86 56 xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp 87 57 CWIELnFXPatch.esp 88 58 Northern Bathhouses.esp 89 59 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 90 5a SexLab-Stories.esp 91 5b HentaiCreatures.esp 92 5c marriagemod - alpha v3.esp 93 5d marriagemod - hf.esp 94 5e SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp 95 5f EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 96 60 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 97 61 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 98 62 RSChildren - Complete.esp 99 63 RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp100 64 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp101 65 Differently Ebony.esp102 66 HarvestFeathers.esp103 67 EstrusChaurus.esp104 68 MoreNastyCritters.esp105 69 Bijin Wives.esp106 6a AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp107 6b Immersive Weapons.esp108 6c sanguinesDebauchery.esp109 6d UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp110 6e InteractiveWashBasinsCOMPLETE.esp111 6f BeastessLair.esp112 70 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp113 71 SimpleSlavery.esp114 72 RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp115 73 Shocky500.esp116 74 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp117 75 1nivWICCloaks.esp118 76 RavenWP3.esp119 77 TMSG.esp120 78 Rounded Lanterns.esp121 79 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp122 7a TheEyesOfBeauty.esp123 7b SLALAnimObj.esp124 7c ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp125 7d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp126 7e BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp127 7f TheCoenaculiUNP.esp128 80 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp129 81 Blush When Aroused.esp130 82 WATER DB.esp131 83 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp132 84 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp133 85 Devious Devices - Equip.esp134 86 Elisif Makeover.esp135 87 SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp136 88 0SACT.esp137 89 SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp138 8a Chesko_WearableLantern.esp139 8b jackgafemaleanimations.esp140 8c Skysan_GlassNTGBow.esp141 8d Schlongs of Skyrim.esp142 8e GetStripped.esp143 8f PrivateNeeds.esp144 90 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp145 91 FollowerElf.esp146 92 Nock2Tip.esp147 93 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp148 94 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp149 95 Bathing in Skyrim - Interactive Wash Basins.esp150 96 Bathing in Skyrim - Water (Legendary).esp151 97 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp152 98 Devious Cidhna.esp153 99 Frostfall.esp154 9a RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp155 9b RND_AnimalLoot.esp156 9c SexLab_Dialogues.esp157 9d Populated Prisons.esp158 9e SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp159 9f AngrimApprentice.esp160 a0 WATER DG.esp161 a1 LoversComfort.esp162 a2 TKMN_MoreAdoptableChildren.esp163 a3 SexLab Romance.esp164 a4 WATER.esp165 a5 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp166 a6 ViljaHPRedHeadBeauty.esp167 a7 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp168 a8 Neithteam Warpaint.esp169 a9 Battlemage Armour.esp170 aa TCoW Improvement.esp171 ab Deviously Enslaved.esp172 ac daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp173 ad SpousesEnhanced.esp174 ae SpousesEnhanced_Vilja.esp175 af SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp176 b0 WATER Plants.esp177 b1 Bijin Warmaidens.esp178 b2 HBetterBows.esp179 b3 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp180 b4 Hunterborn.esp181 b5 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp182 b6 Kate.esp183 b7 Sneak Tools.esp184 b8 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp185 b9 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp186 ba PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp187 bb Ritual Armor of Boethiah.esp188 bc Gildergreen Regrown.esp189 bd SteelPlateBikini.esp190 be Dwarvenbikini.esp191 bf DragonBoneBikini.esp192 c0 Luxury Collection.esp193 c1 Luxury Collection Vendor.esp194 c2 FNISspells.esp195 c3 TheLily.esp196 c4 LustmordVampireArmor.esp197 c5 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp198 c6 LpotDHorse.esp199 c7 Daedric Reaper Armor.esp200 c8 Real Clouds.esp201 c9 LPotD Armor.esp202 ca Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp203 cb SexLabDefeat.esp204 cc SLAnimLoader.esp205 cd CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp206 ce Devious Deviants.esp207 cf CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp208 d0 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp209 d1 SOSRaceMenu.esp210 d2 XPMSE.esp211 d3 Elwyn - YuiH StandAlone Follower.esp212 d4 UIExtensions.esp213 d5 SOS - Pubic Hair for Females Addon.esp214 d6 zzEstrus.esp215 d7 Daedric Extra Armor.esp216 d8 Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp217 d9 Serana No Hood.esp218 da iHUD.esp219 db NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp220 dc Extended Slider Colors.esp221 dd SBF Lydia.esp222 de DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp223 df NobleWeddingDressByUrshi.esp224 e0 SC_NobleDresses.esp225 e1 KS Jewelry.esp226 e2 RodBoots.esp227 e3 RodGloves.esp228 e4 Dr_Bandolier.esp229 e5 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp230 e6 Merta Assassin Armor.esp231 e7 AddItemMenu.esp232 e8 FollowerEmily.esp233 e9 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp234 ea Ambassador of Darkness.esp235 eb KS Hairdos - HDT.esp236 ec SexistGuards.esp237 ed BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp238 ee BeeingFemale_RS_Patch.esp239 ef 12FemaleBrows.esp240 f0 Jennifer.esp241 f1 VL No AoE Drain.esp242 f2 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp243 f3 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp244 f4 Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp245 f5 da_alternate_start_extension.esp246 f6 ccas_starts.esp247 f7 ImmerSlave.esp248 f8 ReProccer.esp249 f9 Better Vampires.esp250 fa Seductress Serana.esp The load order at the very end about the last 5-10 mods are a little in disarray as I spent the lat hour tweaking.
ijakor Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 you use a lot of npc mods and a lot of script heavy mods and hdt too. that blows up your game. try to use less
Molevalence Posted June 30, 2016 Author Posted June 30, 2016 you use a lot of npc mods and a lot of script heavy mods and hdt too. that blows up your game. try to use less Yes I am aware of this. What puzzles me is I have had no issues with all these mods before. All this started to happen when I made a Wood Elf toon then it all went downhill.
ijakor Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 it can aslo be a bad mesh from and armor or a bad texture. especially older hdt meshes can also cause ctds.
Halleaon Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 check and see if it'll load by typing coc whiterun in the console from the main menu, then load your save, if it loads, it means the game is running out of memory when trying to load your save (loading from coc whiterun allows it to load part of the game beforehand so that when you then load your save it only has to load what's missing and it lessens the load.) works for me every time on ctds when loading saves.
Molevalence Posted June 30, 2016 Author Posted June 30, 2016 check and see if it'll load by typing coc whiterun in the console from the main menu, then load your save, if it loads, it means the game is running out of memory when trying to load your save (loading from coc whiterun allows it to load part of the game beforehand so that when you then load your save it only has to load what's missing and it lessens the load.) works for me every time on ctds when loading saves. I tried your solution and it loads fine with the CoC Whiterun command. I use your suggestion with a save inside a small confined space as a load buffer as the game can crash if you load in an area with too much information at once. IE: Out in the open in the wilderness or in a populated area like Solitude market area or Whiterun town square. I loaded my saves and once again crashed. Right now I am going through my mod order and removing mods that I figure I no longer use/need and reinstalling textures from 4-2k if given the option to lower the amount of memory needed.
Halleaon Posted June 30, 2016 Posted June 30, 2016 check and see if it'll load by typing coc whiterun in the console from the main menu, then load your save, if it loads, it means the game is running out of memory when trying to load your save (loading from coc whiterun allows it to load part of the game beforehand so that when you then load your save it only has to load what's missing and it lessens the load.) works for me every time on ctds when loading saves. I tried your solution and it loads fine with the CoC Whiterun command. I use your suggestion with a save inside a small confined space as a load buffer as the game can crash if you load in an area with too much information at once. IE: Out in the open in the wilderness or in a populated area like Solitude market area or Whiterun town square. I loaded my saves and once again crashed. Right now I am going through my mod order and removing mods that I figure I no longer use/need and reinstalling textures from 4-2k if given the option to lower the amount of memory needed. good luck!
Molevalence Posted July 1, 2016 Author Posted July 1, 2016 check and see if it'll load by typing coc whiterun in the console from the main menu, then load your save, if it loads, it means the game is running out of memory when trying to load your save (loading from coc whiterun allows it to load part of the game beforehand so that when you then load your save it only has to load what's missing and it lessens the load.) works for me every time on ctds when loading saves. I tried your solution and it loads fine with the CoC Whiterun command. I use your suggestion with a save inside a small confined space as a load buffer as the game can crash if you load in an area with too much information at once. IE: Out in the open in the wilderness or in a populated area like Solitude market area or Whiterun town square. I loaded my saves and once again crashed. Right now I am going through my mod order and removing mods that I figure I no longer use/need and reinstalling textures from 4-2k if given the option to lower the amount of memory needed. good luck! Thank you. I have been doing some tests and I found out that it only crashes after I tweak my mods in the Skyrim menu in game. Now I just need to funnel out the culprit... Update: I think I found it. the SL Animation Loader Mod. When I register all the mods and then save/exit and reload it crashes and ruins the save. Just need to figure out how to fix this.
jfraser Posted July 1, 2016 Posted July 1, 2016 First of all: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/? Second, I do the same as Helleon, except i coc to qasmoke, then load the save from there.
Molevalence Posted July 1, 2016 Author Posted July 1, 2016 First of all: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/? Second, I do the same as Helleon, except i coc to qasmoke, then load the save from there. Thank you for the reply. Yes I am aware of that link and am attempting to setup a crash dump to pinpoint exactly where and how the crash occurs. As for the nexus link thank you. I will take a look.
Molevalence Posted July 1, 2016 Author Posted July 1, 2016 Update: I might have this fixed. Hopefully. I will put what I did in steps to maybe one day help someone who happens to run into this issue and not have to spend 7 hours fixing it. Step 1. Follow the Steps here to get a proper SKSE setup inside Mod Organizer. Unlike my dumbass idiocy I did not have this http://wiki.step-project.com/Skyrim_Script_Extender#Recommendations Step 2. Once you have the SKSE.ini made and setup follow the steps here to be able to add a crashlog which will help pinpoint the cause of the crash. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/46913-how-to-debug-ctd/ I ran some tests and I was able to load a Imperial with all my animations registered with the SL Animation Loader which previously crashed my games if all animations were registered. I was even able to load in my Wood Elf and still have the animations registered with the SL Animation Loader. This remains to be seen if I can continue the game as my Wood Elf character as this has been known to be a completely different issue but here's hoping. As my Avatar note shows I am the Canadian Derp and this problem helps back that up. I just hope this will help others down the road.
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