Help with low fps after getting Nvidia inspector

[Effie]

So i just downloaded Nvidia inspector to cap my fps, but i went from being stable 50-55 fps exterior down to 25-40 fps. Interior i used to be 120 and now i'm 45-55 fps. I've tried restoring it to defaults and turning of AO in nvidia inspector too, but my fps just stays low.

 

Had to roll my drivers back to go back to normal fps, but i still want to use Nvidia inspector for various reasons - so i was wondering if anyone have a clue why my fps dropped so much?

 

Vertical sync was off, so i was not that.

[aim4it]

Just a shot in the dark here, but maybe 'The Geforce Experience' downloaded 'Updated profiles' from the community cloud that raised the IQ at the cost of performance. Gotta love the cloud.

[spoonsinger]

Right.. erm. 120 fps, for either internal or external is really a no no anyway for Skyrim. 60 fps is your target. (It has to do with the really bizarre crappy physics system, and you really shouldn't go above that).  Honestly, with out knowing your system, or having screen shots of your inspector settings, I'd say what you are experiencing is normal.

[Effie]

Right.. erm. 120 fps, for either internal or external is really a no no anyway for Skyrim. 60 fps is your target. (It has to do with the really bizarre crappy physics system, and you really shouldn't go above that).  Honestly, with out knowing your system, or having screen shots of your inspector settings, I'd say what you are experiencing is normal.

Well i did mention i got it to cap my fps

I'm just saying whether capped or not, my fps has been lowered tremendously just by getting this program alone, and could only get my fps back by reinstalling my drivers no matter how many times i reset settings to default in both the Nividea inspector and in Nividia control panel as well as making sure vsync and AO was off.

 

For future replies, please read through my first post so there won't be misunderstandings like this again.

[spoonsinger]

 

Right.. erm. 120 fps, for either internal or external is really a no no anyway for Skyrim. 60 fps is your target. (It has to do with the really bizarre crappy physics system, and you really shouldn't go above that).  Honestly, with out knowing your system, or having screen shots of your inspector settings, I'd say what you are experiencing is normal.

Well i did mention i got it to cap my fps

I'm just saying whether capped or not, my fps has been lowered tremendously just by getting this program alone, and could only get my fps back by reinstalling my drivers no matter how many times i reset settings to default in both the Nividea inspector and in Nividia control panel as well as making sure vsync and AO was off.

 

For future replies, please read through my first post so there won't be misunderstandings like this again.

 

 

No!!!, You'll face the indignities and random responses to your thread just like any other person. This isn't the Nexus.

[Effie]

Just a shot in the dark here, but maybe 'The Geforce Experience' downloaded 'Updated profiles' from the community cloud that raised the IQ at the cost of performance. Gotta love the cloud.

Could be though i doubt the two are related. I do know that the settings comes with the drivers, but i think they're only related to the settings in the control panel under Manage 3D settings and not the optimal game settings from the geforce experience. I may be wrong though. But the settings in Nividia inspector seemed totally different aka just the typical settings you'd find in the control panel + more.

 

For now i have my high fps back again in all my games because i reinstalled my drivers, but it's just annoying that i can't figure out why nividia inspector is lowering my overall fps despite disabled vsync, no AO and just standard settings that aren't heavy x_x

[aim4it]

Their the same profiles, just the nvidia control panel hides settings that can get users into trouble, inspector exposes all the settings in the profile.  And the experience likes to compare your system to others in the cloud and see what settings people have changed.  If enough people make a chance  with a similar system profile, it becomes the recommended settings and download when experience checks for updates.

[varenne]

I tend to agree with aim4it on the above. Profiles, especially those that are a singular attempt at one-size-fits-all have never IMHO been all that good or often times even useful. The variations in possible system configurations is just to broad. AMD uses a Gaming Evolved app, which attempts to optimize settings for any game installed, based on profiles and it has never proven to work best on my PC. Some games sort of yes, others no so much.

 

Have you taken a look at Guide:NVIDIA Inspector yet? All Nvidia inspector is is a specialized Nvidia only GPU-Z. It does have a logging to CVS file feature so if I had you hardware, I'd first try to log settings prior to installing/using it, then after and do a comparative analysis on which settings are being altered.

 

For some older games like Oblivion I prefer to just use defaults and avoid using any newer external, cloud or user based profiles and settings, or any new apps trying to optimize for games, relying instead on apps made specifically for game optimization that are tried and true. I override the Bethesda defaults, find my best optimization and set that via the CPU card profile options. Other apps I use (made specifically for Oblivion) specifically target FPS optimization.

[Effie]

I tend to agree with aim4it on the above. Profiles, especially those that are a singular attempt at one-size-fits-all have never IMHO been all that good or often times even useful. The variations in possible system configurations is just to broad. AMD uses a Gaming Evolved app, which attempts to optimize settings for any game installed, based on profiles and it has never proven to work best on my PC. Some games sort of yes, others no so much.

 

Have you taken a look at Guide:NVIDIA Inspector yet? All Nvidia inspector is is a specialized Nvidia only GPU-Z. It does have a logging to CVS file feature so if I had you hardware, I'd first try to log settings prior to installing/using it, then after and do a comparative analysis on which settings are being altered.

 

For some older games like Oblivion I prefer to just use defaults and avoid using any newer external, cloud or user based profiles and settings, or any new apps trying to optimize for games, relying instead on apps made specifically for game optimization that are tried and true. I override the Bethesda defaults, find my best optimization and set that via the CPU card profile options. Other apps I use (made specifically for Oblivion) specifically target FPS optimization.

Haha thanks for the link, but it was due to that guide that i even decided to get the program to begin with. In the end i rolled my drivers back to 355.98 which boosted my fps up again to the 120 interior and 70 exterior, and i capped the fps at 60 with Nvidia inspector.

 

But then a new problem arose. My pc would reboot shortly after being in game with 1k hd textures installed. If i updated my drivers to the one i had before again, i would not have this problem. But then i'd be back down on super low fps agian haha.

 

So for now i'm testing with SLI on the old drivers and hoping i can find some middle ground.

 

But idk if the profiles are the same. Because in Nvidia control panel, ambient occlusion is turned off by default under skyrim, even if i reset it to default to make sure. But in nvidia it's turned on for skyrim, even if i click to reset that profile to default.

So Nvidia control panel and inspector doesn't seem to be completely identical since their "default" settings are very different Oo

[varenne]

Yup, I had the same results when setting up my current hardware/software; profiles of one not the same as others. Only real way to find your best is doing exactly what you're doing; trial and error testing. Quite tedious and often time consuming but with so many possible PC configurations it is the only way forward.

 

In your particular case and the 1k hd texture issue, I'd look over the patch update details of all drivers including and between the older one that sort of works, and the newer one that kills your FPS, if there are any updates in between. If you can identify when and where the impact occurs it may lead to clues on something you can do, or you could try reporting it to your GPU tech support. I can tell you from recent 1st-hand experience, these days tech support is less than helpful, the more technical you get. In many or most cases I know more than they do and end up resolving it on my own, through searching the web for answers. And for games as old as Skyrim, next to no support.