Squigsquasher Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 So I installed a huge amount of mods (most from this very website) taking great, great care to make sure I had the latest versions of all the mods and everything was compatible with everything else. I ran LOOT several times, ran FNIS, and took maximum care to make sure everything was in order. So I started Skyrim (well, SKSE- the latest version AFAIK)...and disaster struck. First, when I Started a new game, it told me I had an old version of the Unofficial Legendary Patch enabled and that this could "damage my game". I was concerned, but waited to see if it would have any effect. Then, as soon as the game started, things went...hilariously wrong. The physics on the cart bugged out, causing the cart to flail about like a badly animated Garry's Mod ragdoll. I tried turning collision off and on, but no luck. What's going on? I'm wondering if it's a bug with one of the physics enhancements I have but I'm not sure... For the record I'm using NMM as it's what I'm used to and migrating the mods would take ages. Here's my load order anyway: Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Dawnguard.esm 03 HearthFires.esm 04 Dragonborn.esm 05 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.1.3b] 06 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 07 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.2b] 08 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 09 SexLab.esm [Version 1.61] 0A SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.6] 0B CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 0C HentaiPregnancy.esm 0D ZaZAnimationPack.esm 0E ApachiiHair.esm 0F ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 HighResTexturePack01.esp 11 HighResTexturePack02.esp 12 HighResTexturePack03.esp 13 Apocalypse - The Spell Package (Workshop).esp 14 argonianraptor.esp 15 better embers.esp 16 blaze of eventide.esp 17 Bluecreek Estate.esp 18 boss.esp 19 br_hoodcirclets.esp 1A cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp 1B craftable lockpicks.esp 1C craftable musket.esp 1D darkseraticheavyarmor.esp 1E dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 1F decapitationgore texture replacer.esp 20 demonhammer.esp 21 disablelydiatradedialog.esp 22 discworld.esp 23 dragonmourninn.esp 24 dr_bandolier.esp 25 dwemerautoblade.esp 26 fckagrenacsinstantfortress.esp 27 flame atronach armor.esp 28 freecraft.esp 29 guard dialogue overhaul.esp 2A hdplants+herbs.esp 2B highly explosive arrows.esp 2C hq_skyrimmap.esp 2D ImprovedFollowers.esp 2E item recycling.esp 2F killlakillsword.esp 30 ktxcompleteskyforge.esp 31 levelingmerchantswallets.esp 32 lightweight potions and poisons.esp 33 lilithscarver1_0.esp 34 lockpickvision.esp 35 MH3weapons.esp 36 missingapprentices.esp [Version 1.31] 37 Montures Monstres.esp 38 moon_majora_secunda.esp 39 more hair colors.esp 3A moresmeltables.esp 3B multirace.esp 3C mxdemonicarmoredhorse.esp 3D NGNP.esp 3E nocommentnude.esp 3F northern bathhouses.esp 40 Open Cities Skyrim.esp 41 portal2mod.esp 42 private_nokillblur_test.esp 43 prometheus_beastskeletons.esp 44 prvti_heavyarmory.esp 45 races_skulls_sp0.esp 46 realistic piercing arrows.esp 47 realmshatterarmorpack_v001.esp 48 realmshatterweaponpack.esp 49 schwertleite set.esp 4A scythecompilationpack.esp 4B sheogorath_shout.esp 4C SkyRaven.esp 4D skyrim in color.esp 4E sos - the dungeons.esp [Version 1.23] 4F sos - the wilds.esp [Version 1.13] 50 spiders.esp 51 sr_kpmod.esp 52 stavesofskyrim.esp 53 stranger_danger.esp 54 the lusty argonian maid extended edition.esp 55 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.9] 56 wilhelmscreammod.esp 57 zuzugs monster mod madness.esp 58 ebonymine.esp 59 windfall.esp 5A treeslod_23.esp [Version 1.1] 5B purewaters.esp 5C betterfemalesbybella.esp 5D qsmweaponpack.esp 5E qsmchaos.esp 5F azarhair.esp 60 flamingredhair.esp 61 tavevillages.esp 62 buildablehouse.esp 63 thomaseaterofworld.esp 64 summonskeletalhorde.esp 65 FNIS.esp 66 XPMSE.esp 67 RaceMenu.esp 68 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 69 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 6A ASX_Spells.esp 6B dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 6C Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 6D SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 6E SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 6F SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 70 SOS - Shop.esp 71 Cloaks.esp 72 SOS Equipable Schlong.esp 73 SOSRaceMenu.esp 74 SOSRaceMenuRotation.esp 75 Immersive Weapons.esp 76 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 77 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 78 PersonalizedMusic - NoVanillaMusic_v5.0.esp 79 PersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp 7A ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 7B ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 7C ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 7D FNISspells.esp 7E SkyUI.esp 7F LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp 80 MoreNastyCritters.esp 81 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 82 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 83 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 84 HentaiCreatures.esp 85 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] 86 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] 87 BDIC.esp 88 SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 7] 89 Working Dog.esp 8A Werewolves.esp 8B HentaiMilk_HEARTHFIRE.esp 8C SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 8D GotMilk.esp 8E NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 8F SexLab Submit.esp 90 SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.7.2] 91 prostitutes.esp 92 Cherrypie.esp 93 Here There Be Monsters.esp 94 better-ench-fx.esp 95 Bashed Patch, 0.esp I am using SKSE and FNIS, and both they and my base Skyrim installation are at the latest version (I'm pretty sure anyway). Here's what I THINK is my Papyrus log (you'll have to excuse me if this is the wrong thing, I've never needed to access the Papyrus logs before). Loading Version: 32Init...-doneRegistering functions...-doneJSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/NSAPEnabledAnims.jsonJSON: File does not exist, init empty root object...JSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/../../../Meshes/Cumshot/AdjustValues.json And here's the attachment of the log.PapyrusUtilDev.zip So uh, what did I do wrong? Why is the cart drunk?
SepticSpoon Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 You don't need Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp if you have Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp already. Since it says on the Unofficial Skyrim Patch page to refer to the Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch instead. ^ Probably not the cause of your problem, just thought i would put it out there.
Squigsquasher Posted April 3, 2016 Author Posted April 3, 2016 OK, fixed that, not getting the warning anymore. The cart is still thrashing about like an angry horker though.
Caliban44 Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Use the mod 'prisoner cart fix' over at nexusmods, there are 2versions one for the vanilla cart and one if you use smim, and if i get enuff ppl here wanting it, i will upload it here too.
srayesmanll Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 Or use an alternate start mod (AS-LAL, unbound, etc). Or do not activate any mods (except those necessary to crate a character) until after the character is created and you can crate a save (enter Helgen Keep). The "cart ride from hell" is a well-known bug that has many sources - Animated Prostitution used to be blamed a lot, then it was SOS, then (strangely) Immersive Armors, etc. Basically, it's a delicate piece of "bethesda" that can be easily broken by any mod and can bypassed by using alternate start mods.
Content Consumer Posted April 3, 2016 Posted April 3, 2016 I've heard that the cart going apeshit is because a mod has changed player (or horse) basic speed. I have such a mod, and my cart goes crazy when I use that start too. I can't confirm that's the cause, but it seems reasonable.
Squigsquasher Posted April 3, 2016 Author Posted April 3, 2016 Well, the cart problem is fixed for good. So that's something. Thanks for all the advice! Unfortunately, the game is now randomly suffering CTDs. LOOT and TE5Edit aren't showing anything up... Latest Papyrus log: Loading Version: 32Init...-doneRegistering functions...-doneJSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/NSAPEnabledAnims.jsonJSON: File does not exist, init empty root object...Storage Reverting...Done!Storage Loading... MODS LoadLoading mod list... (115 -> 255) thomaseaterofworld.esp (116 -> 115) FNIS.esp (117 -> 116) XPMSE.esp (118 -> 117) RaceMenu.esp (119 -> 118) RaceMenuPlugin.esp (120 -> 119) RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp (121 -> 120) ASX_Spells.esp (122 -> 121) dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp (123 -> 122) SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp (124 -> 123) SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp (125 -> 124) SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp (126 -> 125) SOS Equipable Schlong.esp (127 -> 126) SOSRaceMenu.esp (128 -> 127) SOSRaceMenuRotation.esp (129 -> 128) Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp (130 -> 129) ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp (131 -> 130) ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp (132 -> 131) ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp (133 -> 132) FNISspells.esp (134 -> 133) SkyUI.esp (135 -> 134) LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp (136 -> 135) MoreNastyCritters.esp (137 -> 136) BDIC.esp (138 -> 137) SexLabMatchMaker.esp (139 -> 138) Werewolves.esp (140 -> 139) HentaiMilk_HEARTHFIRE.esp (141 -> 140) GotMilk.esp (142 -> 141) NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp (143 -> 142) SexLab Submit.esp (144 -> 143) SexLab Cumshot.esp (145 -> 144) Cherrypie.esp (146 -> 145) better-ench-fx.esp (147 -> 146) Open Cities Skyrim.esp (148 -> 147) Bashed Patch, 0.esp FLOV Load Discarding Empty Form Discarding Empty Form Data Shrink: 24 -> 22 - objects: 22 FORL Load - objects: 1Done!JSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/../../../Meshes/Cumshot/AdjustValues.json And my sincerest apologies for all this tedious crap.
Squigsquasher Posted April 4, 2016 Author Posted April 4, 2016 So in order to work around the impossibly buggy cart ride I installed the alternate start mod. That sorted that out, but the game will not stop randomly crashing. Have I just installed too many mods? I've tried everything from the Skyrim Optimization Patch to ENBoost and it just keeps crashing.
Content Consumer Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 will not stop randomly crashing Well, define "randomly." Like, does it seem to crash every half hour or so, or in certain locations, or certain types of locations, or near certain people, or when certain things are being done? Or is there no pattern at all? You can try uploading a papyrus log. It's not guaranteed to lead to a solution, but it could help.
Squigsquasher Posted April 4, 2016 Author Posted April 4, 2016 will not stop randomly crashing Well, define "randomly." Like, does it seem to crash every half hour or so, or in certain locations, or certain types of locations, or near certain people, or when certain things are being done? Or is there no pattern at all? You can try uploading a papyrus log. It's not guaranteed to lead to a solution, but it could help. There's no real pattern to the crashes at all. If this makes sense it usually happens when I do something- so for example, examine a body, leave a building, try and surrender etc- as opposed to it crashing with no input at all. Basically, the trigger for a crash is any kind of input (key or mouse). Here's the most recent papyrus log, not that I suspect it will be much use. Loading Version: 32 Init... -done Registering functions... -done For now I've turned off all the SexLab mods as I suspect those are what caused the instability. I may try adding them into the game gradually to see if I can build a stable game and pinpoint the cause of the problem, but I fear I am simply too incompetent at modding to create the open-world sex game I've been craving.
Content Consumer Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 That's all you're getting for a papyrus log? I can't say I've ever seen anything quite so anemic. I really have no advice for you here. Sorry.
Squigsquasher Posted April 5, 2016 Author Posted April 5, 2016 I think I fucked up and took the papyrus log after I disabled all the SexLab mods. My fault, sorry. In any case, I'll gradually re-activate the mods until I hit instability, and report back.
Squigsquasher Posted April 5, 2016 Author Posted April 5, 2016 Well, I've restored SKyrim to vanilla and everything seems to work just fine. Now to begin the long, slow progress of adding and testing mods...
Squigsquasher Posted April 6, 2016 Author Posted April 6, 2016 Hmm. Well, I've determined what's making the cart act like it's on crack- it's Schlongs of Skyrim of all things. I have no idea why it does it, but it does. Hmm.
Content Consumer Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Hmm. Well, I've determined what's making the cart act like it's on crack- it's Schlongs of Skyrim of all things. I have no idea why it does it, but it does. Hmm. Huh. Okay. My guess would be that the schlong is far too long and has gotten tangled in the cart wheels.
srayesmanll Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Hmm. Well, I've determined what's making the cart act like it's on crack- it's Schlongs of Skyrim of all things. I have no idea why it does it, but it does. Hmm. Huh. Okay. My guess would be that the schlong is far too long and has gotten tangled in the cart wheels. You joke, but that was actually one of the theories. Another stated that the combination of SOS with Immersive Armors was the cause. Of course, long before SOS existed, the blame fell squarely on Animated Prostitution mod. Just to note, I had this happen when I first started playing Skyrim --- ON THE XBOX 360. No mods to blame it on, just generic "bugthesda" crap as usual. So again - best fix is skip the damn cart ride and use an alternate start mod. There are plenty to choose from now.
Squigsquasher Posted April 6, 2016 Author Posted April 6, 2016 Yeah, I'm doing just that and using the Live Another Life mod. I hated the generic start anyway- far too long and boring.
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