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So I installed a huge amount of mods (most from this very website) taking great, great care to make sure I had the latest versions of all the mods and everything was compatible with everything else. I ran LOOT several times, ran FNIS, and took maximum care to make sure everything was in order. So I started Skyrim (well, SKSE- the latest version AFAIK)...and disaster struck.

 

First, when I Started a new game, it told me I had an old version of the Unofficial Legendary Patch enabled and that this could "damage my game". I was concerned, but waited to see if it would have any effect.

 

Then, as soon as the game started, things went...hilariously wrong. The physics on the cart bugged out, causing the cart to flail about like a badly animated Garry's Mod ragdoll. I tried turning collision off and on, but no luck.

 

What's going on? I'm wondering if it's a bug with one of the physics enhancements I have but I'm not sure...

 

For the record I'm using NMM as it's what I'm used to and migrating the mods would take ages.

 

Here's my load order anyway:

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.1.3b]
06  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
07  Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.2b]
08  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
09  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.61]
0A  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.6]
0B  CreatureFramework.esm  [Version 1.0.0]
0C  HentaiPregnancy.esm
0D  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0E  ApachiiHair.esm
0F  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
10  HighResTexturePack01.esp
11  HighResTexturePack02.esp
12  HighResTexturePack03.esp
13  Apocalypse - The Spell Package (Workshop).esp
14  argonianraptor.esp
15  better embers.esp
16  blaze of eventide.esp
17  Bluecreek Estate.esp
18  boss.esp
19  br_hoodcirclets.esp
1A  cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp
1B  craftable lockpicks.esp
1C  craftable musket.esp
1D  darkseraticheavyarmor.esp
1E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
1F  decapitationgore texture replacer.esp
20  demonhammer.esp
21  disablelydiatradedialog.esp
22  discworld.esp
23  dragonmourninn.esp
24  dr_bandolier.esp
25  dwemerautoblade.esp
26  fckagrenacsinstantfortress.esp
27  flame atronach armor.esp
28  freecraft.esp
29  guard dialogue overhaul.esp
2A  hdplants+herbs.esp
2B  highly explosive arrows.esp
2C  hq_skyrimmap.esp
2D  ImprovedFollowers.esp
2E  item recycling.esp
2F  killlakillsword.esp
30  ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
31  levelingmerchantswallets.esp
32  lightweight potions and poisons.esp
33  lilithscarver1_0.esp
34  lockpickvision.esp
35  MH3weapons.esp
36  missingapprentices.esp  [Version 1.31]
37  Montures Monstres.esp
38  moon_majora_secunda.esp
39  more hair colors.esp
3A  moresmeltables.esp
3B  multirace.esp
3C  mxdemonicarmoredhorse.esp
3D  NGNP.esp
3E  nocommentnude.esp
3F  northern bathhouses.esp
40  Open Cities Skyrim.esp
41  portal2mod.esp
42  private_nokillblur_test.esp
43  prometheus_beastskeletons.esp
44  prvti_heavyarmory.esp
45  races_skulls_sp0.esp
46  realistic piercing arrows.esp
47  realmshatterarmorpack_v001.esp
48  realmshatterweaponpack.esp
49  schwertleite set.esp
4A  scythecompilationpack.esp
4B  sheogorath_shout.esp
4C  SkyRaven.esp
4D  skyrim in color.esp
4E  sos - the dungeons.esp  [Version 1.23]
4F  sos - the wilds.esp  [Version 1.13]
50  spiders.esp
51  sr_kpmod.esp
52  stavesofskyrim.esp
53  stranger_danger.esp
54  the lusty argonian maid extended edition.esp
55  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.9]
56  wilhelmscreammod.esp
57  zuzugs monster mod madness.esp
58  ebonymine.esp
59  windfall.esp
5A  treeslod_23.esp  [Version 1.1]
5B  purewaters.esp
5C  betterfemalesbybella.esp
5D  qsmweaponpack.esp
5E  qsmchaos.esp
5F  azarhair.esp
60  flamingredhair.esp
61  tavevillages.esp
62  buildablehouse.esp
63  thomaseaterofworld.esp
64  summonskeletalhorde.esp
65  FNIS.esp
66  XPMSE.esp
67  RaceMenu.esp
68  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
69  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
6A  ASX_Spells.esp
6B  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
6C  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
6D  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
6E  SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
6F  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
70  SOS - Shop.esp
71  Cloaks.esp
72  SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
73  SOSRaceMenu.esp
74  SOSRaceMenuRotation.esp
75  Immersive Weapons.esp
76  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
77  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
78  PersonalizedMusic - NoVanillaMusic_v5.0.esp
79  PersonalizedMusic_v5.0.esp
7A  ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
7B  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
7C  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
7D  FNISspells.esp
7E  SkyUI.esp
7F  LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
80  MoreNastyCritters.esp
81  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
82  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
83  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
84  HentaiCreatures.esp
85  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2b]
86  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2a]
87  BDIC.esp
88  SexLabMatchMaker.esp  [Version 7]
89  Working Dog.esp
8A  Werewolves.esp
8B  HentaiMilk_HEARTHFIRE.esp
8C  SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
8D  GotMilk.esp
8E  NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
8F  SexLab Submit.esp
90  SexLab Cumshot.esp  [Version 1.7.2]
91  prostitutes.esp
92  Cherrypie.esp
93  Here There Be Monsters.esp
94  better-ench-fx.esp
95  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

I am using SKSE and FNIS, and both they and my base Skyrim installation are at the latest version (I'm pretty sure anyway).

 

Here's what I THINK is my Papyrus log (you'll have to excuse me if this is the wrong thing, I've never needed to access the Papyrus logs before).

Loading Version: 32
Init...
-done
Registering functions...
-done
JSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/NSAPEnabledAnims.json
JSON: File does not exist, init empty root object...
JSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/../../../Meshes/Cumshot/AdjustValues.json

 

And here's the attachment of the log.

PapyrusUtilDev.zip

 

So uh, what did I do wrong? Why is the cart drunk?

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You don't need Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp if you have Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp already.

Since it says on the Unofficial Skyrim Patch page to refer to the Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch instead.

 

^ Probably not the cause of your problem, just thought i would put it out there. :D

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Or use an alternate start mod (AS-LAL, unbound, etc).  Or do not activate any mods (except those necessary to crate a character) until after the character is created and you can crate a save (enter Helgen Keep).  The "cart ride from hell" is a well-known bug that has many sources - Animated Prostitution used to be blamed a lot, then it was SOS, then (strangely) Immersive Armors, etc.  Basically, it's a delicate piece of "bethesda" that can be easily broken by any mod and can bypassed by using alternate start mods.

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Well, the cart problem is fixed for good. So that's something. Thanks for all the advice!

 

Unfortunately, the game is now randomly suffering CTDs. LOOT and TE5Edit aren't showing anything up...

 

Latest Papyrus log:

 

Loading Version: 32
Init...
-done
Registering functions...
-done
JSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/NSAPEnabledAnims.json
JSON: File does not exist, init empty root object...
Storage Reverting...
Done!

Storage Loading...
    MODS Load
Loading mod list...
    (115 -> 255)    thomaseaterofworld.esp
    (116 -> 115)    FNIS.esp
    (117 -> 116)    XPMSE.esp
    (118 -> 117)    RaceMenu.esp
    (119 -> 118)    RaceMenuPlugin.esp
    (120 -> 119)    RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
    (121 -> 120)    ASX_Spells.esp
    (122 -> 121)    dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
    (123 -> 122)    SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
    (124 -> 123)    SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
    (125 -> 124)    SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
    (126 -> 125)    SOS Equipable Schlong.esp
    (127 -> 126)    SOSRaceMenu.esp
    (128 -> 127)    SOSRaceMenuRotation.esp
    (129 -> 128)    Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
    (130 -> 129)    ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
    (131 -> 130)    ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    (132 -> 131)    ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
    (133 -> 132)    FNISspells.esp
    (134 -> 133)    SkyUI.esp
    (135 -> 134)    LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp
    (136 -> 135)    MoreNastyCritters.esp
    (137 -> 136)    BDIC.esp
    (138 -> 137)    SexLabMatchMaker.esp
    (139 -> 138)    Werewolves.esp
    (140 -> 139)    HentaiMilk_HEARTHFIRE.esp
    (141 -> 140)    GotMilk.esp
    (142 -> 141)    NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp
    (143 -> 142)    SexLab Submit.esp
    (144 -> 143)    SexLab Cumshot.esp
    (145 -> 144)    Cherrypie.esp
    (146 -> 145)    better-ench-fx.esp
    (147 -> 146)    Open Cities Skyrim.esp
    (148 -> 147)    Bashed Patch, 0.esp
    FLOV Load
    Discarding Empty Form
    Discarding Empty Form
    Data Shrink: 24 -> 22
    - objects: 22
    FORL Load
    - objects: 1
Done!

JSON Loading: Data/SKSE/Plugins/StorageUtilData/../../../Meshes/Cumshot/AdjustValues.json

 

And my sincerest apologies for all this tedious crap.

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So in order to work around the impossibly buggy cart ride I installed the alternate start mod. That sorted that out, but the game will not stop randomly crashing. Have I just installed too many mods? I've tried everything from the Skyrim Optimization Patch to ENBoost and it just keeps crashing.

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will not stop randomly crashing

 

Well, define "randomly." Like, does it seem to crash every half hour or so, or in certain locations, or certain types of locations, or near certain people, or when certain things are being done? Or is there no pattern at all?

 

You can try uploading a papyrus log. It's not guaranteed to lead to a solution, but it could help.

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will not stop randomly crashing

 

Well, define "randomly." Like, does it seem to crash every half hour or so, or in certain locations, or certain types of locations, or near certain people, or when certain things are being done? Or is there no pattern at all?

 

You can try uploading a papyrus log. It's not guaranteed to lead to a solution, but it could help.

 

 

There's no real pattern to the crashes at all. If this makes sense it usually happens when I do something- so for example, examine a body, leave a building, try and surrender etc- as opposed to it crashing with no input at all. Basically, the trigger for a crash is any kind of input (key or mouse).

 

Here's the most recent papyrus log, not that I suspect it will be much use.

 

Loading Version: 32

Init...

-done

Registering functions...

-done

 

For now I've turned off all the SexLab mods as I suspect those are what caused the instability. I may try adding them into the game gradually to see if I can build a stable game and pinpoint the cause of the problem, but I fear I am simply too incompetent at modding to create the open-world sex game I've been craving.

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Hmm. Well, I've determined what's making the cart act like it's on crack- it's Schlongs of Skyrim of all things. I have no idea why it does it, but it does. Hmm.

 

Huh. Okay.

My guess would be that the schlong is far too long and has gotten tangled in the cart wheels. :)

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Hmm. Well, I've determined what's making the cart act like it's on crack- it's Schlongs of Skyrim of all things. I have no idea why it does it, but it does. Hmm.

 

Huh. Okay.

My guess would be that the schlong is far too long and has gotten tangled in the cart wheels. :)

 

 

You joke, but that was actually one of the theories.  Another stated that the combination of SOS with Immersive Armors was the cause.  Of course, long before SOS existed, the blame fell squarely on Animated Prostitution mod.  Just to note, I had this happen when I first started playing Skyrim --- ON THE XBOX 360.  No mods to blame it on, just generic "bugthesda" crap as usual.  So again - best fix is skip the damn cart ride and use an alternate start mod.  There are plenty to choose from now.

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