Need Help with Load Order/CTD

[ravensm]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to place this topic. i need help stabilizing my game. i have a tone of mods and not 100% sure if every single one of them compatible with each other. also i'm not 100 % sure if the load order is correct. 

 

I'm running the game on my windows 8 laptop with 8 g's or ram and 1760 mb of total available graphic ram (vram i believe)

 

my game runs reasonably well. i can start a new game just fine. after i've personalized my character and the mcm menu and played for maybe 30 minutes. the game CTD's. and when i try to get back after that. the game CTD's when i try to load the saved game.....and CTD's for every other saved game as well....its frustrating. I've done what i can on my end with my limited know how of mods. If there's anyone out there that could give me a hand i would really appreciate it. i don't exactly know what else you guys need, so if I've missed anything, let me know please?. here's my load order (oh i use mod organizer)

 

PS  i know where the load order but i cant seem to find the mod list order...or what ever else its called

 

PPS OK, i think I've found it but its upside down

 

 

 

please help me guys...thanks

loadorder.txt

modlist.txt

[pipdude]

Are you using LOOT?

[XTholomewX]

Run LOOT if you're not using it. Then downlaod and install tes5edit and make a merged patch, then wrye bash then  make a bashed patch. Watch gamer poets on youtube for tutorials.

[RitualClarity]

This will be a pain.. however you will learn more.

If you can run the game (not CTD) with a fresh game chances are your mods requirements are there. Crashes later could be from bad scripts or conflicts.

 

If you have MO NMM? create a new profile, unclick all mods test and start a new game, perhaps until you get out of the cave after the escape. Save.

go back and add one or two of your most important mods etc, test the game and then rince and repeat. You will start to see some crashes make note what you added recently and then go back and remove those with a new profile.

 

Basically test one or two mods at a time until you find the one that is causing the problem. If you cannot find someone here that can tell you which are fighting each oter.

[Alpia]

 

If you can run the game (not CTD) with a fresh game chances are your mods requirements are there. Crashes later could be from bad scripts or conflicts.

This-^

 

Besides the allready written down things here rnd ctd's usually appear if your vram is full or the ram, but then you would be able to just continue your game after restart so its much likley what ritualclarity said some bad scripts

 

Besides this how big is your savegame allready after the 30min. (ctd)?

Did you try to:

-form the main menu open the console "coc qasmoke" let everything start (then save too dont have to use qasmoke everytime)

-then load your actual savegame?

Thats a  common workaround I cant load savegames that have some gametime on allready without this method (like all or at least many others with heavy setups)

[simonsrd]

Are you running DLCs and if you have installed the patches from Nexus try runing you game with just the DLC and not Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch  remove it , as soon as I install I start getting random CTDS ,If I dont install I get a very occasion rare CTD . You have two pro mods run only tdf  with NSAP defeat will run with NSAP to boost defeat install sexlabs rape  it is a very stable mod .Some of the mods you are using are XP mods so try runnig in xp mode . Dont buy the black horse at Whiterun better off tdf the storm cloak soilders then nick the grey horse from the near by storm camp . Install loot and tes5edit , LOOT can run from your desktop tes5edit you can install in tools run generator . xp32 maximum skeleton extended make sure it the last to be installed do not let any other mod over write xp32 . A good stable body mod is UNPB and for body textures porcelane skin unpb works well with vampires . I dont use embs But use standalone mods rather than +Skyrim Project Optimization some of these mods are resource hungry . My advice is to run Skyrim as near vanilla as possible .

[RitualClarity]

That reminds me it is strongly advised to clean your DLCs for best results. I haven't had a dirty DLC for a very long time and am not getting the same issues everybody else is getting.

[ravensm]

Are you using LOOT?

 

sorry, thanks for saying that, i make it a habet to run loot all the time

Run LOOT if you're not using it. Then downlaod and install tes5edit and make a merged patch, then wrye bash then  make a bashed patch. Watch gamer poets on youtube for tutorials.

 

 

i make it a habet to run tes5edit and loot, and i've cleaned out the mods with tes5 edit..minus the ones im not suppose to, i look up every mod to make sure i am alloud to clean it, most dont have a problem, a mods arent suppose to be cleaned, i havent done merged or bash patches before. so i will look that up, which mods should i do?

[WaxenFigure]

 

Look here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/

[ravensm]

This will be a pain.. however you will learn more.

If you can run the game (not CTD) with a fresh game chances are your mods requirements are there. Crashes later could be from bad scripts or conflicts.

 

If you have MO NMM? create a new profile, unclick all mods test and start a new game, perhaps until you get out of the cave after the escape. Save.

go back and add one or two of your most important mods etc, test the game and then rince and repeat. You will start to see some crashes make note what you added recently and then go back and remove those with a new profile.

 

Basically test one or two mods at a time until you find the one that is causing the problem. If you cannot find someone here that can tell you which are fighting each oter.

 

i was hoping to avoid that but it makes a lot of sense, if thats what i have to do then i will do that, thank you

 

 

If you can run the game (not CTD) with a fresh game chances are your mods requirements are there. Crashes later could be from bad scripts or conflicts.

This-^

 

Besides the allready written down things here rnd ctd's usually appear if your vram is full or the ram, but then you would be able to just continue your game after restart so its much likley what ritualclarity said some bad scripts

 

Besides this how big is your savegame allready after the 30min. (ctd)?

Did you try to:

-form the main menu open the console "coc qasmoke" let everything start (then save too dont have to use qasmoke everytime)

-then load your actual savegame?

Thats a  common workaround I cant load savegames that have some gametime on allready without this method (like all or at least many others with heavy si h

 i havent heard about that console command before, i will try it, my save game files are between 9 and 10 mb....not sure if thats big or not

[RitualClarity]

There is one benifit of doing it this way. Testing your mods allows you to learn and grow. AS time goes on you will start to learn more and more about how the mods you use work and how the game works. Based on what it states it does and its features in time you will learn can conflict with other mods like it. Learn how to ask really good questions for the author. (like for a follower is the body separate ?  So you will be able to know if your body mods would overwrite the image the author showed you on the page. That and other info. It also helps you later when you decide to reload the game. You will soon develop a core set of mods that you know works together. Then when you run into a problem you know it is the new mod you just installed. .so a pain in the ass yes.. useful in the long run if you ever really decide to get heavy into modding yes.. In time a seroius modder will start to look to combiing mods and altering them as well to suit their needs, conflict resolution is one of the best tools you can learn with modding as a hobbie.

[ravensm]

Are you running DLCs and if you have installed the patches from Nexus try runing you game with just the DLC and not Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch  remove it , as soon as I install I start getting random CTDS ,If I dont install I get a very occasion rare CTD . You have two pro mods run only tdf  with NSAP defeat will run with NSAP to boost defeat install sexlabs rape  it is a very stable mod .Some of the mods you are using are XP mods so try runnig in xp mode . Dont buy the black horse at Whiterun better off tdf the storm cloak soilders then nick the grey horse from the near by storm camp . Install loot and tes5edit , LOOT can run from your desktop tes5edit you can install in tools run generator . xp32 maximum skeleton extended make sure it the last to be installed do not let any other mod over write xp32 . A good stable body mod is UNPB and for body textures porcelane skin unpb works well with vampires . I dont use embs But use standalone mods rather than +Skyrim Project Optimization some of these mods are resource hungry . My advice is to run Skyrim as near vanilla as possible .

 

could you clarify on what you mean by xp mods? not sure what that is, also, i dont have time to get past lvl 1 before that game CTD. so, that horse advice would have to wait till i can get the mods working ok. loot and tes5edit is already installed, i appolgize for not adding that to my first post. not counting that certain mods might not work to gether, i believe the load order is reasonably ok, doesnt mean it cant be improved but from what i understand, loot is set up to handle sexlab mods and is said to load the mods pretty good. could you also clarify what you mean by the mod, "skyrim project optimization? i thought it was intended to make the graphics let resource hungry. i didnt realise the mod its self was resource hungry

That reminds me it is strongly advised to clean your DLCs for best results. I haven't had a dirty DLC for a very long time and am not getting the same issues everybody else is getting.

 

 

yes, i agree, again, i forgot to let everyone know that i ave loot and tes5edit installed and run already.  i've cleaned the updat.esm, and all the dlc's, so no dirty dlc's there. also , i have gone through the mods  them selves...only a few needed cleaning, others the mod creator specifies not to clean the mod

[ravensm]

There is one benifit of doing it this way. Testing your mods allows you to learn and grow. AS time goes on you will start to learn more and more about how the mods you use work and how the game works. Based on what it states it does and its features in time you will learn can conflict with other mods like it. Learn how to ask really good questions for the author. (like for a follower is the body separate ?  So you will be able to know if your body mods would overwrite the image the author showed you on the page. That and other info. It also helps you later when you decide to reload the game. You will soon develop a core set of mods that you know works together. Then when you run into a problem you know it is the new mod you just installed. .so a pain in the ass yes.. useful in the long run if you ever really decide to get heavy into modding yes.. In time a seroius modder will start to look to combiing mods and altering them as well to suit their needs, conflict resolution is one of the best tools you can learn with modding as a hobbie.

 

yes, i agree, i wouldnt call my self a seriuos modder...maybe barely above a newbie...maybe not eaven that..i know the basics and i also have thought about creating mods, but have not dont anything about it other then imagination. besides merging and bash patches, i will start trying to go through every mod, one by one...so far, my game works on with non loverslab mods.....do you suggest i test after them? or should i include the non loverslab mods as well?

[RitualClarity]

 

yes, i agree, again, i forgot to let everyone know that i ave loot and tes5edit installed and run already.  i've cleaned the updat.esm, and all the dlc's, so no dirty dlc's there. also , i have gone through the mods  them selves...only a few needed cleaning, others the mod creator specifies not to clean the mod

Sounds like you done what you were suppose to. Makes me think there is some script from amod that is screwing up. That is something that has to be found out the hard way if someone here reading your list can't point out some known problems or if somehow you got a mod that is reported from the OP of a mod that is confirmed to conflict.

 

Just make sure you are confident that you cleaned the DLC/Masters correctly.

 

 

There is one benifit of doing it this way. Testing your mods allows you to learn and grow. AS time goes on you will start to learn more and more about how the mods you use work and how the game works. Based on what it states it does and its features in time you will learn can conflict with other mods like it. Learn how to ask really good questions for the author. (like for a follower is the body separate ?  So you will be able to know if your body mods would overwrite the image the author showed you on the page. That and other info. It also helps you later when you decide to reload the game. You will soon develop a core set of mods that you know works together. Then when you run into a problem you know it is the new mod you just installed. .so a pain in the ass yes.. useful in the long run if you ever really decide to get heavy into modding yes.. In time a seroius modder will start to look to combiing mods and altering them as well to suit their needs, conflict resolution is one of the best tools you can learn with modding as a hobbie.

 

yes, i agree, i wouldnt call my self a seriuos modder...maybe barely above a newbie...maybe not eaven that..i know the basics and i also have thought about creating mods, but have not dont anything about it other then imagination. besides merging and bash patches, i will start trying to go through every mod, one by one...so far, my game works on with non loverslab mods.....do you suggest i test after them? or should i include the non loverslab mods as well?

 

 

If you have a fully functional base that works (non lovers lab mods) and are confident that they are solid as a rock and work perfectly for you then you can start from that point and then move into the mods that you aren't sure of and test one or two as needed for error. However keep in mind once you find the one that is causing problem with the mods you have that is only one part. The second part is which mod on the list you have is the one that is conflicting. If the mod conflicting isn't a concern or wanted or needed you can move on. If it is essential you will have to do more work

 

 

[WaxenFigure]

 

I repeat myself, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ for patches and information about how to fix CTD problems.

[ravensm]

I repeat myself, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ for patches and information about how to fix CTD problems.

 

thank you, i have the link opened up on a new tab, i havent been able to do anything other then reply to some people, im in the midst of making supper, i will look at it after that. thank you so much for your reply. and other people to. im sure with everyones help here i will be able to come up with a mod list that works well with each other....just going to take some time figuring out whats happening

 

I repeat myself, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ for patches and information about how to fix CTD problems.

 

thank you, i have the link opened up on a new tab, i havent been able to do anything other then reply to some people, im in the midst of making supper, i will look at it after that. thank you so much for your reply. and other people to. im sure with everyones help here i will be able to come up with a mod list that works well with each other....just going to take some time figuring out whats happening

 

thought about editing my comment, but desided to add another comment in case you've already seen my last repy to you. i have looked at the link..looks like i will have to go through the step guide first before i can try that plugin. i dont use step but im sure the guide will still work for me

[RitualClarity]

I repeat myself, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ for patches and information about how to fix CTD problems.

.. I didn't see that .. lol

 

 

I repeat myself, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ for patches and information about how to fix CTD problems.

 

thank you, i have the link opened up on a new tab, i havent been able to do anything other then reply to some people, im in the midst of making supper, i will look at it after that. thank you so much for your reply. and other people to. im sure with everyones help here i will be able to come up with a mod list that works well with each other....just going to take some time figuring out whats happening

 

I repeat myself, http://www.loverslab.com/topic/56084-crash-fixes/ for patches and information about how to fix CTD problems.

 

thank you, i have the link opened up on a new tab, i havent been able to do anything other then reply to some people, im in the midst of making supper, i will look at it after that. thank you so much for your reply. and other people to. im sure with everyones help here i will be able to come up with a mod list that works well with each other....just going to take some time figuring out whats happening

 

thought about editing my comment, but desided to add another comment in case you've already seen my last repy to you. i have looked at the link..looks like i will have to go through the step guide first before i can try that plugin. i dont use step but im sure the guide will still work for me

 

Yes. it will. It will help you through the process more directly. Same with the link given. Good info there. Even if it isn't the cause of your issue it should help improve your gaming.

[Alpia]

Are you running DLCs and if you have installed the patches from Nexus try runing you game with just the DLC and not Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch  remove it , as soon as I install I start getting random CTDS ,If I dont install I get a very occasion rare CTD . You have two pro mods run only tdf  with NSAP defeat will run with NSAP to boost defeat install sexlabs rape  it is a very stable mod .Some of the mods you are using are XP mods so try runnig in xp mode . Dont buy the black horse at Whiterun better off tdf the storm cloak soilders then nick the grey horse from the near by storm camp . Install loot and tes5edit , LOOT can run from your desktop tes5edit you can install in tools run generator . xp32 maximum skeleton extended make sure it the last to be installed do not let any other mod over write xp32 . A good stable body mod is UNPB and for body textures porcelane skin unpb works well with vampires . I dont use embs But use standalone mods rather than +Skyrim Project Optimization some of these mods are resource hungry . My advice is to run Skyrim as near vanilla as possible .

 

If you want to help dont speak from your own expierience alone... the unofficial patches are sure not the cause for your ctd's advising someone to remove it is senseless. Sexlab rape makes absolutly no sense to install if you are intrested in mods like defeat sexlab rape only allows aroused npc's to rape you without the need to you beeing defeated by them before. Whatever you are calling a pro mod NSAP is outdated as sexlab animation loader took its place this also dosent boost anything. XP mods? Running in xp mode? are you modding your windows or your skyrim? think about on what the mods hook... never heard something like that which means nobody does that... and there is sure no need to. "tes5edit you can install in tools run generator" tes5edit has no generator. There is no such thing as a Stable body mod, body mods are just meshes and textures nothing that can be instable. "rather than +Skyrim Project Optimization some of these mods are resource hungry" that on you are at least right, but the optimization project is the exact opposite as the name suggests it dosent cost performance it gives you a better performance. My advice is dont just talk down mods or give weird advices for things that "fixed" things if you are the 1% for which they dont work. This is not meant offensive, but what you wrote dosent help on this topic.

 

[ravensm]

thank you all for your help, right now, i am going through the step guide with out installing step its self. some of the instructions are pretty intense..but are really well explained. they make sense..set up the pc before you set up skyrim..then setup skyrim before you set up your mods. its going to take me a bit to really go through it, specially with my current life. after that i will download the mod "WaxenFigure" suggested. and after that, i will go through the steps "ritualclarity" suggested. if i have any trouble, i hope you guys wont mind me posting them to you all

 

again, thank you all

[RitualClarity]

Good luck. It might be a pain but in the end you will learn so much. I have taken what I learned from FAllout 3 to FAllout NV and to Skyrim and now soon to FAllout 4. Some differences but many basic concepts are the same. Once you learn those you will be very well off.

 

If you still have problems after doing the STEPs and problem resolutions post back but I would be at a total loss..