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I have been modding skyrim for some time but one problem that rears its ugly head for unregocnisable reasons to me is the torpedo/pancake boobs when walking. I have always used the same setup for my HDT using the same xml and body type and yet sometimes for unknown reasons it will appear seemingly at random. I was playing in my current file about 100 huars and was adding a couple of armors form here and a plugin for sky-ui to show what slots a piece of armor will use, and suddenly boom, the torpedo/pankcake tats return. I hadn't remove anything recently although one thing that might have had to do with it was I had removed some HTD enabled hairstyles awhile back, however it should be understood that I'm fairly certain this sisn't the cause because I had been playing the game for a good couple of hours after removing said hairstyles before this problem happened. Also I've tried allthe normal fixes recommended. I uninstalled everything from ragdolls to HDT PE itself. Reinstalled all of it. Reinstalled XPMSE multiple times because i've been having problems with that since switching to MO about 2 months ago(the reason I switch was because I ran into this same problem and couldn't fix it and was tired of reinstalling all my mods). Ran FNIS after everytime I did something. I also know it has noting to do with a specific body because every single armor that I tried on had the problem, so I tried the default HDT xml instead of the current one I use and it still was a problem. In my load order there are 2 chunks of disabled plugins, the first is armor mods which I merged, and the second is plugins which are unneccesary for one reason or another. The armor pack I made doesnt include my armor replacer mod, so I know that it has nothing to do with my nightingale armor or cbbe body looking like that.

 

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 18 12 Evil Lair of Hydra.esm
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 38 26 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
 39 27 grass & ground fixes.esp
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 49 31 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
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 52 34 PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp
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       Marriable Serana.esp
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148 94 PuppetMaster.esp
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193 c1 HDT Piercingsets.esp
194 c2 TentacleEnt.esp
195 c3 zarias_restraints.esp
196 c4 shadowyshadowmere.esp
197 c5 YuiH StandAlone Follower - Merura.esp
198 c6 _YoungHuman.esp
199 c7 Serana.esp
200 c8 Valerica.esp
201 c9 MBWSAmalia.esp
202 ca Lusty.esp
203 cb Hikari.esp
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205 cd WezFollower.esp
206 ce Xidix Follower.esp
207 cf Midna.esp
208 d0 Amaterasu - The Great Spirit.esp
209 d1 ub_adoption_hearthfire_extention.esp
210 d2 ub_apachii_hair.esp
211 d3 ub_invite_any_npc.esp
212 d4 UBH-HighDGcomPatch.esp
213 d5 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
214 d6 DrunkenSluts.esp
215 d7 MoreRevelers.esp
216 d8 SkyTweak.esp
217 d9 FollowerCiceria.esp
218 da Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
219 db SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
       Marriable Serana HF.esp
220 dc MoreNastyCritters.esp
221 dd SexLabWerewolves.esp
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223 df HermWolfPlayer.esp
224 e0 SummonWereHerm.esp
225 e1 KWTelescope.esp
226 e2 XPMSE.esp
227 e3 no sun damage vampires.esp
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231 e7 RaceMenuMimic.esp
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235 eb EFFDialogue.esp
236 ec Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
237 ed da_alternate_start_extension.esp
238 ee dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

239 ef FNISspells.esp

 

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edit:coudln't figure out the spoiler thing

Posted

Sorry can't help you with HDT, but your spoilers probably don't work because you have text formatting in them (in this case, color).

Just select the tags and hit the eraser (2nd button) in the editor toolbar. Removes any and all formatting from selected text, careful!

Posted

Thank you for the note about formatting.

 

Edit: if any mods see this post please lock it, I figured out my own issue. It had to due with herm werewolves. I have herm-werewolves HDT and it added it's own xml file to a different folder for the werewolves, but it seem to have been overwriting my own xml file. I will bring this to the mod author's attention. for anyone else having problems with HDT i suggest you take another look at your skse folder, because this is not the first time having 2 different physics xml have screwed me over.

 

Edit: not the mod authors fault but still had to do with the xml and the skeleton.

 

edit: for anyone interestd the specific problem was a combination of things the most important being use the corrects skeleton with your body type and use the correct physics plugins for your skeleton type. I was using an HDT plugin configured for a specific skeleton setup and the skeleton was not compatible with my body or armors.

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