Creation Kit and Invisible Statics

[TBDM]

I'm trying to use the creation kit to delete certain banners in game and replace them with custom ones. I have had this work just fine in some cells, however for other cells they do not appear when I am in game. They are visible in the render window, and I can see them if I use tfc or tcl and clip through walls or objects (the rest of the cell turns invisible and they appear) but I'm not sure what I've done differently from the others. Does anyone know what is causing this and how I can fix it?

 

[Veladarius]

Main reason I can think of this happening is that the area you are working with has what is called Portals and Rooms set up in it. These are used to limit what can be rendered at once since everything in the area is rendered but other things just overwrite it, the main reason I have found to use it is lighting.

 

To check if this is the case you need to enable them to be shown in the render window, by default they are not shown. In the Main Toolbar click on 'View' then in the menu click on 'Show/Hide Window', this will bring up a check box menu. In the menu check 'Portals and Rooms'.

 

In the render window you will likely need to zoom out or move around a bit but if there are rooms and portals set up they should show as blue boxes as I remember. In game if you are in the box it will not render anything outside the box and vice versa unless a portal is set up.

 

Click on the banner that you are having issues with, if any part of the highlight box that appears around the object is outside the room box it won't show up. There are a lot of objects that have a center placement mark (walls and other things like that) that end up making the object bigger that it actually is, if the banner has one you can try rotating it 180 deg and see if that puts it inside the room box.

[TBDM]

This sounds a lot like the cause of the issue I'm having, but I seem to be unable to fix it. Right now I'm trying to replace the banners in the blue palace, and I'm fairly certain they're within the large blue box that contains the throne area. I tried to put them in place of where the old Solitude banners were (their dimensions are similar), but they didn't show up. I tried moving them some and they still didn't show up. Lastly I tried placing one in front of the throne, but a couple feet up so I thought they would be well within the box, and it still didn't appear in game.